Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions

[acroman08]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?

what's done is done. she smoked marijuana perfectly knowing the consequences. do I feel bad about her? yeah, she lost her mother so I know how hard it is. do I feel bad about her being suspended? yeah, but, I still agree about the decision made by the Olympic committee.

but I think it's about time that marijuana is removed from the banned substance list.

I doubt it'll happen anytime soon(I might be wrong) since the USA isn't the only country that is part of its committee.

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[dustboy]

This thread will be so complicated thread since there are too many sports for the Olympics. Should we have a limit for the topic to discuss? Because I think we will have many different sports predictions. How if we have a limit the discussion about the prediction of country's achievement only or about the Olympic in general? So we will have no specific sports prediction here in this thread.

[Vishnu.Reang]

This thread will be so complicated thread since there are too many sports for the Olympics. Should we have a limit for the topic to discuss? Because I think we will have many different sports predictions. How if we have a limit the discussion about the prediction of country's achievement only or about the Olympic in general? So we will have no specific sports prediction here in this thread.

It is not practical to set up separate threads to discuss each of the sport, since there are a total of 50 disciplines and 33 sports being offered this time. I think we can discuss both the medal tally and the individual sports in this thread, as setting up separate threads for all these will dilute the discussion. After all, all these topics are related to each other. If the moderators can keep the thread away from the spammers and shit posters, then it will be easy to navigate between the different sports and sub-topics.

[Alisha-k]

I'm glad the pandemic have been dealt with to a great extent and most sporting activities are gradually coming back I know there have been lots of preparations taking place for the tournament but how do nation's partake and what's the citeria for selecting athletes or was there a pre Olympic before now or could it be opened to all who has what it takes to partake

[Jackl87]

Quick question, how does a country qualify to play the Olympics? I really want to see my country play but they aren't even participating so I don't exactly get what is the requirements to do be part of Olympics, also who will be carrying the torch this time?

As far as I know, there are no specific requirements that a country has to fulfil in order for its athletes to be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games. It all depends on the individual athlete, as there are certain standards for each sport that have to be achieved in order to qualify as a participant for the Olympic Games. For the 2021 Games, the main criterion for the first time is a world ranking list in which the five best results of an athlete are included and, in addition, the respective results are weighted according to the importance of the event. In addition, there is the qualification through the achievement of the standard as well as quota places. So the whole thing is quite complicated.

[worle1bm]

Quick question, how does a country qualify to play the Olympics? I really want to see my country play but they aren't even participating so I don't exactly get what is the requirements to do be part of Olympics, also who will be carrying the torch this time?

There are no particular restrictions for any country to participate in the Olympic games as there are players from more than 200 countries participating in the Olympics but the only reason some countries don't take part in some competitions is that they don't have qualified players who possess that skill like if they don't have swimmers who can compete in that competition so they avoid that sports.The players cannot take part in every sports probably which is the reason for that.

In the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Torch Relay, torchbearers selected from 47 prefectures in Japan, who come from a variety of backgrounds and play different roles in society, will carry the torch, enjoying the invaluable experience in their own way.

[Cnut237]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?

It's unfortunate timing. She got a tiny ban, due to the fact that whilst marijuana doesn't enhance performance, it's still illegal. It just so happens that the tiny ban covers the period of the olympics 100m. The rules are the rules, and there isn't really any room to manoeuvre, there has to be a ban of some sort. As for her not being in the relay team which comes a bit later and after the end of the ban... I think again they have little choice. They have to be seen as being consistent. It would be difficult to justify including a runner in one event who is banned from the individual version.

It's not a great situation, and it feels harsh on her, but the rules can't be bent... that would set a terrible precedent.

[Strongkored]

This thread will be so complicated thread since there are too many sports for the Olympics. Should we have a limit for the topic to discuss? Because I think we will have many different sports predictions. How if we have a limit the discussion about the prediction of country's achievement only or about the Olympic in general? So we will have no specific sports prediction here in this thread.

I don't think it's necessary, because by the time the Olympics are taking place, the discussion will definitely focus more on well-known sports such as football, tennis, boxing, athletics, swimming, basketball, etc.
Maybe Op can add poll which country will get the most medals

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

This thread will be so complicated thread since there are too many sports for the Olympics. Should we have a limit for the topic to discuss? Because I think we will have many different sports predictions. How if we have a limit the discussion about the prediction of country's achievement only or about the Olympic in general? So we will have no specific sports prediction here in this thread.

It won't be complicated, and this is the purpose of this thread, to discuss everything related to Olympics regardless of what is our favorite sports. And for sure this thread will be one of the most active as we approach the Olympics games. Well, you can post your sports prediction here and maybe someone will tail you. So everyone would understand and maybe those who are not familiar with a certain sports will definitely pisque his attention is he/she sees a sport that might interest other gamblers/sports lovers in the future.

[slaman29]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team? Personally I fully understand why this happened and rules are rules so it is what it is but I think it's about time that marijuana is removed from the banned substance list.  Marijuana is NOT a performance enhancing drug and is a very helpful and safe way to treat inflammation, stress, pain etc.

I don't know about drugs so much but I've actually seen myself friends who take weed a lot and well, if there's anything that can be said about it, it's addictive, it makes them perform WAY less than they should, and while they're on it they're happy but without it they're just looking for ways to score more and everything else becomes less important.

Banning it for performance I disagree, but I think coaches would ban it for taking away focus:)

[bryant.coleman]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?

It's unfortunate timing. She got a tiny ban, due to the fact that whilst marijuana doesn't enhance performance, it's still illegal. It just so happens that the tiny ban covers the period of the olympics 100m. The rules are the rules, and there isn't really any room to manoeuvre, there has to be a ban of some sort. As for her not being in the relay team which comes a bit later and after the end of the ban... I think again they have little choice. They have to be seen as being consistent. It would be difficult to justify including a runner in one event who is banned from the individual version.

It's not a great situation, and it feels harsh on her, but the rules can't be bent... that would set a terrible precedent.

No sympathy for Sha'Carri. Athletes need to take great care while taking food, to make sure that they are not consuming any items containing prohibited substances. Even previously there have been cases of individual athletes getting bans for mistakenly consuming banned substances. And in case of Sha'Carri, she was already aware that weed was banned and still consumed it. Who should be blamed here? It is not possible to provide exemptions on an individual basis. If weed is permitted today, then tomorrow some people may ask for glass and crack.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?

It's unfortunate timing. She got a tiny ban, due to the fact that whilst marijuana doesn't enhance performance, it's still illegal. It just so happens that the tiny ban covers the period of the olympics 100m. The rules are the rules, and there isn't really any room to manoeuvre, there has to be a ban of some sort. As for her not being in the relay team which comes a bit later and after the end of the ban... I think again they have little choice. They have to be seen as being consistent. It would be difficult to justify including a runner in one event who is banned from the individual version.

It's not a great situation, and it feels harsh on her, but the rules can't be bent... that would set a terrible precedent.

No sympathy for Sha'Carri. Athletes need to take great care while taking food, to make sure that they are not consuming any items containing prohibited substances. Even previously there have been cases of individual athletes getting bans for mistakenly consuming banned substances. And in case of Sha'Carri, she was already aware that weed was banned and still consumed it. Who should be blamed here? It is not possible to provide exemptions on an individual basis. If weed is permitted today, then tomorrow some people may ask for glass and crack.

It gives me some sadness for the athlete, because each human being faces the crisis in different ways, in this case the athlete fell into an eventual hard crisis where she lost her mother, she felt alone, but I would rather have used than to have attempted Against their lives, many cannot bear such pressures and commit suicide, their ban is 1 month, and obviously they miss all the Olympics, this must be hard for any athlete who takes so much time preparing so much.

Olympics-IOC's DeFrantz hails sprinter Richardson for coming clean on cannabis use

"I have great admiration for the U.S. athlete. She is extraordinary," DeFrantz told Politico here.

“With her integrity she said ‘yes, I did it. Here’s what happened, I was in a terrible position, there was no one there for me, I just learned from a stranger that my biological mother had passed away and so I went to the depths of despair and I did something I should not have.’

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/olympics-2020-richardson/olympics-iocs-defrantz-hails-sprinter-richardson-for-coming-clean-on-cannabis-use-idUSL4N2OQ359

I hope she has enough strength to overcome this difficult stage that she had to live, I admire that she told the truth and they did not capture her in a test, maybe what happened is better.

[eaLiTy]

Quick question, how does a country qualify to play the Olympics? I really want to see my country play but they aren't even participating so I don't exactly get what is the requirements to do be part of Olympics, also who will be carrying the torch this time?

Every National Olympic Committee in every country is responsible for submitting the participating list and you can enroll 3 members for every event and then every Olympic year there will be a standard benchmark you need to meet if you want to get enrolled and for every Olympics these benchmark changes for every event.

I need to check all the athletes participating as i am not following majority of these events after the legend Usain Bolt retired.

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team? Personally I fully understand why this happened and rules are rules so it is what it is but I think it's about time that marijuana is removed from the banned substance list.  Marijuana is NOT a performance enhancing drug and is a very helpful and safe way to treat inflammation, stress, pain etc.

International Olympic Committee needs to change this stupid rule as Marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug and in the US many states made it legal and it is time to remove this, enforce this rule during Olympic week but before that they need to give them a break as it is best for recovery and pain.

[uneng]

I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?

It's unfortunate timing. She got a tiny ban, due to the fact that whilst marijuana doesn't enhance performance, it's still illegal. It just so happens that the tiny ban covers the period of the olympics 100m. The rules are the rules, and there isn't really any room to manoeuvre, there has to be a ban of some sort. As for her not being in the relay team which comes a bit later and after the end of the ban... I think again they have little choice. They have to be seen as being consistent. It would be difficult to justify including a runner in one event who is banned from the individual version.

It's not a great situation, and it feels harsh on her, but the rules can't be bent... that would set a terrible precedent.

No sympathy for Sha'Carri. Athletes need to take great care while taking food, to make sure that they are not consuming any items containing prohibited substances. Even previously there have been cases of individual athletes getting bans for mistakenly consuming banned substances. And in case of Sha'Carri, she was already aware that weed was banned and still consumed it. Who should be blamed here? It is not possible to provide exemptions on an individual basis. If weed is permitted today, then tomorrow some people may ask for glass and crack.

True. Athletes have a lot of responsabilities and a duty to fulfill when they accept to represent their countries in an international competition. It's important to mention they weren't forced to it. They are there because they wanted and agreed with all terms and conditions.

In this case the rule makes total sense and must be followed, since everyone knows not only marijuana, but also drinks and common cigarettes are harmful to the athlete's endurance and performance, what will prejudice the country they are representing on the competition. Newer generations think they can change how everything was made before and introduce their own rules or just destroy the older ones as if these rules were created without any logical reasons.

[Cnut237]

she was already aware that weed was banned and still consumed it. Who should be blamed here? It is not possible to provide exemptions on an individual basis. If weed is permitted today, then tomorrow some people may ask for glass and crack.

Well, no-one should be blamed. Why is there a need to apportion blame? The ban is legitimate, and must stand. Yes, there should not be any exemptions. She should not be able to compete. This is clear...

No sympathy for Sha'Carri.

... but this is harsh. Her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and she was informed of this whilst at the trials. She says she took marijuana as a coping mechanism, which is fair enough. It's a reason for her taking it, and is likely the reason why the ban is so short. And certainly the ban must stand, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy.

[carlisle1]

True. Athletes have a lot of responsibilities and a duty to fulfill when they accept to represent their countries in an international competition. It's important to mention they weren't forced to it. They are there because they wanted and agreed with all terms and conditions.

In this case the rule makes total sense and must be followed, since everyone knows not only marijuana, but also drinks and common cigarettes are harmful to the athlete's endurance and performance, what will prejudice the country they are representing on the competition. Newer generations think they can change how everything was made before and introduce their own rules or just destroy the older ones as if these rules were created without any logical reasons.

Indeed! before player being selected tryouts are being made by the facilitating bodies,
and after you've been selected you also informed regards to each rules the committee have.

She's fully aware and by that this suspensions is fair enough to everyone who managed to control,  she should do the same.

Olympics is the best chance to represent your county and to bring pride to every sports that the players are representing,
being responsible in any actions that you'll going to take is very important.

[Vishnu.Reang]

... but this is harsh. Her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and she was informed of this whilst at the trials. She says she took marijuana as a coping mechanism, which is fair enough. It's a reason for her taking it, and is likely the reason why the ban is so short. And certainly the ban must stand, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy.

People give all sort of excuses to avoid a ban. If she was so sad about the death of the family member, then she should have pulled out of the Olympics. American athletes in particular has been given all sort of exemptions for the Olympics. Athletes from other countries are banned for the silliest of the reasons, while American athletes such as Simone Biles were given exemptions for the same drug (in Simone's case, the excuse was that she need the drug for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)).

[slaman29]

Who is your favorite athlete who will still go to Olympics in football? I think for the squad even though there is an age limit of 23, they do allow each country to send 3 (if I'm not mistaken) athletes who are overaged, but I don't know if there's a limit for THAT.

Would be so cool to see Messi try and win it again for Argentina;)

[Cnut237]

... but this is harsh. Her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and she was informed of this whilst at the trials. She says she took marijuana as a coping mechanism, which is fair enough. It's a reason for her taking it, and is likely the reason why the ban is so short. And certainly the ban must stand, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy.

People give all sort of excuses to avoid a ban. If she was so sad about the death of the family member, then she should have pulled out of the Olympics. American athletes in particular has been given all sort of exemptions for the Olympics. Athletes from other countries are banned for the silliest of the reasons, while American athletes such as Simone Biles were given exemptions for the same drug (in Simone's case, the excuse was that she need the drug for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)).

Yes, people do give excuses. I'm not saying she should get an exemption at all. I think she deserves the ban because she broke the rules.
All I'm saying is that at the same time we can have some sympathy for her, and some understanding of her situation. It's not like it's a performance enhancing drug, and this was a difficult time.
But yes, obviously the ban must remain, and she shouldn't be allowed to compete.

[LTU_btc]

Who is your favorite athlete who will still go to Olympics in football? I think for the squad even though there is an age limit of 23, they do allow each country to send 3 (if I'm not mistaken) athletes who are overaged, but I don't know if there's a limit for THAT.

Would be so cool to see Messi try and win it again for Argentina;)

Honestly, I don't care much about football in Olympics. Probably I'm going to watch only final of tournament. Until your post I didn't even knew who will play there. Now I checked squads of teams, lot of no names for me, but Spain squad looks impressive.