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August 03, 2021, 03:17:26 AM
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Glad to see PH will once again take a chance for a possible 2 Gold Medal both by boxing (men and women division). These 2 are now assured of a bronze or silver medal regardless.

If they will successfully snatch it, first time again in PH Olympic history. Few medals compare to other countries but a big achievement as PH is not really expected to bag a medal even a bronze one.

Searching on what sports we are able to take a good shot, it's boxing. A total of 7 out of 13 medals in history came from boxing after the final tally.
I do hope that we will see a second and hopefully a third gold but given that their opponents are really good, I think that they will have a hard time fighting, I root more on Nesthy, if she continues her aggressive approach like what she did to Italy I think that she will be able to make it but she has to be careful because a counter could end everything for her.

More than anything, I just hope that Nesthy takes the win here for our 2nd Gold Medal in the country. But even if she losses, her guaranteed medal is enough to acknowledge her skill and prowess. Imagine, most of our olympians received little to no support from the government and the latter relatively demands so much from them.

I do hope that after this year's olympics, our government will acknowledge the need to support financially these olympians since it requires so much effort, time, and resources to produce world-class athletes that compete with other athletes around the globe.

We do have another medal in boxing, it's a secured bronze for Carlo Paalam as he upsets the Rio Gold medalist. He now moves to the quarter-finals, so if he won then he will fight for the gold. So now the Philippines has surpassed its expectations, with 1 gold for Diaz and then Nesthy assured of a silver already but will fight today for the Gold. And then in the men's division, Marcial/Paalam already sure of bronze and if they won their respective bouts, gold or silver next.

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August 03, 2021, 04:25:00 AM
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Disappointment for 1.4 billion people, as the Indian men's hockey team lost to Belgium in the semi-finals. There was a lot of hype in the media and even one movie star jumped in to the fray claiming that the team is performing so well because he acted in a film as a hockey coach a few years ago. Anyway, there is still one more opportunity to get a medal, if they win the bronze medal match (scheduled for 5th August). Meanwhile the women's team will be taking on Argentina in the semi-finals tomorrow.

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August 03, 2021, 09:25:14 AM
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Disappointment for 1.4 billion people, as the Indian men's hockey team lost to Belgium in the semi-finals. There was a lot of hype in the media and even one movie star jumped in to the fray claiming that the team is performing so well because he acted in a film as a hockey coach a few years ago. Anyway, there is still one more opportunity to get a medal, if they win the bronze medal match (scheduled for 5th August). Meanwhile the women's team will be taking on Argentina in the semi-finals tomorrow.

I do not know how to react to all this news in India I read about cricket and hockey,,, you have film stars who were athletes, and politicians who were athletes, and everybody claiming to be expert here and there but then they go and compete against some inferior team supposedly,,, and end up losing.

Good luck to you too,,, with Covid you must be looking for some relief here.

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August 03, 2021, 09:25:30 AM
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China continues to lead the medal tally and the difference from USA is quite far by almost 10 gold medals, it seems that this time it will be China who will take first place, the bettors who chose USA may have started making new bets on China, unfortunately there is no such bet available in the sportsbook where I bet
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August 03, 2021, 09:58:01 AM
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China continues to lead the medal tally and the difference from USA is quite far by almost 10 gold medals, it seems that this time it will be China who will take first place, the bettors who chose USA may have started making new bets on China, unfortunately there is no such bet available in the sportsbook where I bet
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I'm not really sure what are the outright odds for US to win or for China.

But a 10 gold medal lead, is already huge and it will be hard for the US to overtake China at this point. China still have a lot of athletes line for the gold medal, and I read that the Chinese is very nationalistic about this on-going Olympics (maybe because of the political tension against the US.)

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August 03, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
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China continues to lead the medal tally and the difference from USA is quite far by almost 10 gold medals, it seems that this time it will be China who will take first place, the bettors who chose USA may have started making new bets on China, unfortunately there is no such bet available in the sportsbook where I bet
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.

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August 03, 2021, 12:00:15 PM
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.

I would disagree with you here. It is the number of gold medals, which matter the most. Total number of medals may be slightly misleading, as the country sending a larger number of athletes have a good chance of winning more silver and bronze medals. The Americans sent the largest contingent (613 athletes, out of whom 158 in track and field). Being the hosts, Japan only sent 552 athletes to this edition of the Olympics. China only sent 402, far below the number sent by Australia (478) and Germany (425).
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August 03, 2021, 12:19:44 PM
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She trying enough until attempts 2 (152kg) and 3 (154kg), look hard to bringing up. So far for these Olympic games, she creates good achievements going to the final. Nurul going to be popular like double women's badminton. she is the last athlete from Indonesia, so far 28 athletes and creates 5 achievement medals.

He closed the struggle of Indonesian athletes in this event. His achievements are not bad, we have to appreciate them, he has worked hard even though in the end he failed. Rank 5 is a good ranking in my opinion in the world event.
One gold, one silver and three bronzes put Indonesia in 37th position out of 77 participating countries. In this period I expect a lot from badminton because our athletes are quite good in the world. But indeed other countries have developed a lot.

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August 03, 2021, 12:27:56 PM
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.

in total number, USA has chances, that is for sure, but counting gold medals, the difference is already high, and it is hard to expect that China will lost this fight in the end
32 gold medals up to this point is probably above their expectations from the beginning, if I remember correctly, 29 golds was crushing point for China on bookies before the game started

Japan is also doing great, as it is their home ground (they have more than half of all medals as golds (19/36), as well as Australia, that has 14 golds

what happened to Argentina, they have only one bronze medal up to this point
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August 03, 2021, 12:41:26 PM
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.

I would disagree with you here. It is the number of gold medals, which matter the most. Total number of medals may be slightly misleading, as the country sending a larger number of athletes have a good chance of winning more silver and bronze medals. The Americans sent the largest contingent (613 athletes, out of whom 158 in track and field). Being the hosts, Japan only sent 552 athletes to this edition of the Olympics. China only sent 402, far below the number sent by Australia (478) and Germany (425).

I meant that if China was ahead in gold and silver and bronze medals, it would indicate a certain advantage, but now, in my opinion, the situation is approximately equal and the United States has a good chance of taking first place in the team event. Naturally, I understand that the gold medal is the most valuable, but nothing prevents the United States from catching up with the Chinese team in gold medals.

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August 03, 2021, 01:03:44 PM
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Over the past Olympics, USA always on the lead and this is the first time for China to take an early lead though there are still chance for USA to stay on top if their remaining athletes will able to secure a gold medal.

Apart from swimming, in all the disciplines, the American athletes have won less gold medals when compared to their performance in Rio 2016. Even in track and filed, they were disappointing. The defeat in the men's 100m race just sums it up. They were expected to sweep the gymnastics events, but after Biles pulled out, it was a whitewash for them. Overall, this is turning out to be a horrible edition for the Western nations. Right now China is well ahead, and I don't expect the US to overtake them.

I don't think so either. We're already halfway through the Olympics and most of the competitions where the U.S. generally does very well are already over. So there won't be that many gold medals for the U.S. overall and China's lead is already too big. Overall, however, I am also surprised by the positive performance of Japan.
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August 03, 2021, 02:20:28 PM
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what happened to Argentina, they have only one bronze medal up to this point

LOL.. imagine the disappointment in my country. We are a nation of 1.4 billion people and till now we have 1 silver and 1 bronze to our name. The last time my country won a gold medal in Olympics was long back in Beijing 2008 (Abhinav Bindra, in Men's 10 m air rifle). Last time (Rio 2016) also we had one silver and bronze each. It is really disappointing to see the athletes not being able to win a single gold medal. Even small nations such as Kosovo and Croatia are winning multiple gold medals. 
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August 03, 2021, 02:53:59 PM
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China continues to lead the medal tally and the difference from USA is quite far by almost 10 gold medals, it seems that this time it will be China who will take first place, the bettors who chose USA may have started making new bets on China, unfortunately there is no such bet available in the sportsbook where I bet
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.
The team with the highest gold total should be at the top, and China has the most gold medals, so they are on the first place. However, combining the total number of medals, the top spot goes to the USA. China, on top with most Gold Medals, won 32 Gold and the United States won 24 Gold. In terms of gold medals, nothing to boast about and the USA barely beats China.

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August 03, 2021, 03:20:14 PM
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I read that the Chinese is very nationalistic about this on-going Olympics (maybe because of the political tension against the US.)
These two countries have been going back and forth with their power plays so let's leave it at that. Anyone who represents their country in this prestigious competition is always nationalistic. China improved their program for sports prior to hosting the 2008 Olympics and we are just seeing the results.

... I am also surprised by the positive performance of Japan.
You have to hand it to them. They have won Gold on sports I wasn't really expecting them to win.

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August 03, 2021, 03:43:17 PM
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... I am also surprised by the positive performance of Japan.
You have to hand it to them. They have won Gold on sports I wasn't really expecting them to win.

They are also playing at home, this ends up giving them some advantage. This aspect can also be an extra motivation for athletes, to commit and train more in each competition they participate. They also had victories in new competitions that emerged in these Olympic games, this was an asset.

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 #476

Well apparently a great example has given us the Olympic athlete Simone Biles, after her return and obtained a Bronze medal, which, is like an Olympic Gold for her, she managed to overcome her fear, she returned with everything, it is very good what made.


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"At the end of the day we're not just entertainment. We're humans, too. We have things going on behind the scenes. ... I had to take a step back and focus on myself." - Simone Biles
Source: https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/news/gymnastics-simone-biles-beam-bronze-tokyo-social-media-reaction

The experience of the athlete serves for many athletes to learn to overcome adversity, many times our own mind is the greatest obstacle of all. Fears are sometimes our own enemies, in the life of an athlete, self-esteem, morale and self-confidence must always be above in order to achieve success.

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August 03, 2021, 03:59:08 PM
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They are also playing at home, this ends up giving them some advantage. This aspect can also be an extra motivation for athletes, to commit and train more in each competition they participate. They also had victories in new competitions that emerged in these Olympic games, this was an asset.
The advantage for hosting the event or the extra motivation is already out of the question. There are still sports that I did not expect them to win even if they're playing at home soil so it comes as a surprise to me.

An example is table tennis where the Chinese team usually dominate. Japan or Germany usually comes in second or third.

They also got another Gold in boxing today where I expected the taller boxers from Europe to win. I guess Japan were lucky in the draw.

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August 03, 2021, 05:08:22 PM
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The total number of medals is the same at the moment - this means that the US athletes were slightly less successful in the fight for gold, but the overall level is at least equal. I think the fight is still ahead and the US team has every chance to compete for the first place.
The team with the highest gold total should be at the top, and China has the most gold medals, so they are on the first place. However, combining the total number of medals, the top spot goes to the USA. China, on top with most Gold Medals, won 32 Gold and the United States won 24 Gold. In terms of gold medals, nothing to boast about and the USA barely beats China.

As we can see, in one day the difference in gold medals decreased by two at once. I think that in the future it will happen at about this pace and most likely the United States will take first place with about 50 gold medals. In my opinion, despite tremendous efforts, China still cannot claim the first place if we are not talking about the home Olympiad.

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August 03, 2021, 05:14:21 PM
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In today's competition of single kayak 1000m, Hungarian athletes are to be congratulated for their excellent performance. In the last meters of the race, they managed to win over the Portuguese athlete.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/news/balint-kopasz-wins-men-s-single-kayak-1000m-gold-for-hungary-teammate-adam-varga

Either way, it was another medal for a Portuguese, I'm happy.  Cheesy


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August 03, 2021, 05:15:40 PM
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As Turkey, we cannot have a successful Olympics. We only have one gold medalist. Mete Gazoz won the gold medal in the Classic Bow category. This also went down in history as Turkey's first medal in archery in Olympic history. Today, we won a bronze medal in gymnastics, for the first time in our history, in the gymnastics category. Women's volleyball In the quarter-finals, there will be a Turkey-South Korea match. I am very hopeful for Turkey. We can beat South Korea and reach the semi-finals.

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