Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions

[perfect999]

I finally lost my first bet on Olympics this year. I wagered on Turkey to win against Italy in women volleyball but they ended up losing in a big fashion. After beating China which was the best team of the whole tournament, I was thinking maybe there was a chance that they could beat everyone, because beating a big team usually indicates how great you are as well. However as it turns out just like their football team that managed to beat France and Netherlands and then lose every game in euros, the volleyball team seems the same as well, beating a great team and then start losing afterwards. Maybe it is a national thing I do not know.

In the end it is just one loss for me and I am doing fine, especially after such a bad euro cup wagering for me that ended with finally a break even on the very last game, I am happy that Olympics is doing much better for my bankroll.

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[Yogee]

Anyone following boxing?

https://twitter.com/ben_damon/status/1419879557524381696

One boxer, Morocco’s Youness Baalla tries a Mike Tyson move on New Zealand’s David Nyika and bite his ear. Not sure what Youness is thinking, but I'm sure he is going viral now. 

Hehe what the actual F! It can be very frustrating to lose but it's never wise to harm your opponent outside the rules. Do they have some kind of beef before? Not saying it's okay but it would make more sense if the two knew each other and had some rivalry.

[blockman]

Despite the fact that our Government did make a mistake of not supporting well financially, mentally, and emotionally of our athletes, she is one of a great example of pushing her dreams to beyond of anyone's expectations including herself. The prices she owns now is really deserving for her hard work to prove that she can do it and for her country. I am proud for her achievements. I hope that this would be a lesson for our Government. I hope they will be now supporting our athletes very well for the next Olympic.

Kudos to those people who supports her and Kudos to Filipinos who never doubt her potential.

Our government supported her, it's just that the media is putting some fire about that time when she has asked for some more funds. When she has asked for that, there's a response from the government and helped her reached the private sectors that also helped her for her training and preparation of 2020 Tokyo Olympics. It's not that really on the media and that's why people are thinking that she was ignored and the government did nothing but the fact is that there's additional help and fund that has been reached to her when she has asked for it. I don't like the government's bad examples but if there's a credit, put it where the credit is due and the media didn't do that. But anyway, it's just too being politicized and when there's an issue like this, there's also going to be a long discussion but let's forget about that and salute to all of those medalists from all participating countries.

[Sithara007]

Hehe what the actual F! It can be very frustrating to lose but it's never wise to harm your opponent outside the rules. Do they have some kind of beef before? Not saying it's okay but it would make more sense if the two knew each other and had some rivalry.

Unlike the case with professional boxing, in Olympic the athletes are not just representing themselves, but their country as well. And in a tournament which is known for its sportsmanship, this sort of behavior is not encouraged. Players should take the results in a positive light. Participation is more important than winning a medal. If the boxer failed this time, he will get another opportunity in three years time (in 2024). Rather than admitting his defeat, he went on to attack his opponent, which is really disgusting.

[AakZaki]

Tight competition in Tokyo Olympics, I am happy my country has won 3 medals even though it is only one silver and two bronze medals. It's all in Weightlifting. I hope for the next medal is from badminton. Because the two Indonesian representatives in the men's doubles are both group winners, so they have the opportunity to present the All Indonesian Final. Although previously they had to compete in the quarterfinals and semifinals for the final match.

[Jating]

Despite the fact that our Government did make a mistake of not supporting well financially, mentally, and emotionally of our athletes, she is one of a great example of pushing her dreams to beyond of anyone's expectations including herself. The prices she owns now is really deserving for her hard work to prove that she can do it and for her country. I am proud for her achievements. I hope that this would be a lesson for our Government. I hope they will be now supporting our athletes very well for the next Olympic.

Kudos to those people who supports her and Kudos to Filipinos who never doubt her potential.

With that huge amount of money she's going to received for sure it will encourage more athletes to pursue their dreams.

The government is not denying that they really lack of support for the Pinoy athletes it's given and even so it's not a reason not
to perform just how Hidilyn did, and with the efforts he made everything was been paid off now.

Fame and lots of money she's now secure together with all her love ones.. What a life!

Lol, so what does the Philippine government not supporting their athletes? I guess it has something to do with politics as Diaz was even mentioned as a anti-Duterte supporter. But she denied it already and then focus on training with some private fundings (her begging).

And now that her life has made a U-turn, she has houses, money and hopefully the government should learn from it. They should support specially athletes that will give glory to their country.

[KTChampions]

In 2016, Germany confidently won the 5th place in the overall standings and the gap from the 4th place was minimal. I think this year they should not perform much worse. And I do not think that holding the Olympics in Germany can change global trends - most likely, young people choose other areas in order to exert their efforts and sports, due to supercompetitiveness, are not a priority now.

Thats quite interesting when another country try to guess what position they will be, meanwhile my country I dunno and I dont have any guess for their position because another teams are better than our athletes. We are just waiting for the badminton players go final. Until now they show a great performance and we hope they will get 1st position as result for their workhard.

The overall medal standings are evidence of a certain level of sports and theoretically there is something to be proud of, but in my opinion, these are mostly the interests of officials. Our interest is to focus on understanding specific sports and make the right bet when the opportunity arises 

[tabas]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

[Marvelman]

Tight competition in Tokyo Olympics, I am happy my country has won 3 medals even though it is only one silver and two bronze medals. It's all in Weightlifting. I hope for the next medal is from badminton. Because the two Indonesian representatives in the men's doubles are both group winners, so they have the opportunity to present the All Indonesian Final. Although previously they had to compete in the quarterfinals and semifinals for the final match.

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

[joker_josue]

Finally Portugal wins a medal. Bronze Medal in Men's 100Kg Judo. Congratulations Jorge Fonseca.
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/news/japan-s-wolf-aaron-wins-men-s-100kg-judo-gold-by-ippon

[TopTort777]

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

Do you really want to discuss that ? Having high population isnt enough to have a future Olympic champion. I might be wrong, but Indonesia was never counted as super rich country. Even if there is a future Olympic champion somewhere in the country, a lot of money must be invested in training process, support and etc. Frankly, I have never heard about any famous coaches from Indonesia. That means athletest most probably need to train abroad, or hire a coach.

In my country, all the expenses on sport (training, uniform, coach, renting a place to train and etc) are paid by parents. There is almost no support from country. The country or the government involves only when you get a medal and money price - they immediately ask to pay the tax.

It does not matter where you live. What matters is money. You can live on the moon, train there and be the Olympic gold medallist. But money is only 50% of the success. For example UAE has all the money of the world, but they are rarely seen on the pedestal.

[FatFork]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

Hell yeah! Exactly how my wife wakes me up each morning! 

[KTChampions]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

[iv4n]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

I bet it's very motivating... when you get slapped like this you are ready for the real fight, whoever comes next! I didn't see this, now the coach is facing criticism, as we can read in the article... I am not sure what to think, is it OK or not... I believe they are not doing this for the first time, after all, this is a fighting discipline, so this "motivational slapping" can be good! Just my opinion, if they are crazy enough to fight, why not have some crazy preparation for the fight! So I agree with KTChampions here, this video is not so shocking as a sensational headline sounds to be!

[oHnK]

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

Do you really want to discuss that ? Having high population isnt enough to have a future Olympic champion. I might be wrong, but Indonesia was never counted as super rich country. Even if there is a future Olympic champion somewhere in the country, a lot of money must be invested in training process, support and etc. Frankly, I have never heard about any famous coaches from Indonesia. That means athletest most probably need to train abroad, or hire a coach.

In my country, all the expenses on sport (training, uniform, coach, renting a place to train and etc) are paid by parents. There is almost no support from country. The country or the government involves only when you get a medal and money price - they immediately ask to pay the tax.

It does not matter where you live. What matters is money. You can live on the moon, train there and be the Olympic gold medallist. But money is only 50% of the success. For example UAE has all the money of the world, but they are rarely seen on the pedestal.

Yup, thats really make sense. We cant be the champion in the Olympic just based on the lucky Without full support for training for athletes.  Their abilities will be measured based on training, flight hours, and facilities.  How can we win in the Olympics where the opponents are all over the world without ever thinking about the quality of sports education in schools.  It's simple, to be a champion of the asian games is difficult how to become a champion in the olympics.

[Ratash]

Tight competition in Tokyo Olympics, I am happy my country has won 3 medals even though it is only one silver and two bronze medals. It's all in Weightlifting. I hope for the next medal is from badminton. Because the two Indonesian representatives in the men's doubles are both group winners, so they have the opportunity to present the All Indonesian Final. Although previously they had to compete in the quarterfinals and semifinals for the final match.

Why does Indonesia have such a low sports achievement at the Olympics as well as at the SEA Games? I mean, your capital, Jakarta, has almost triple the population of my entire country, and we've already won two golds and a few bronze medals. We're also very good at the Winter Olympics.

I think the size and the population of the country is not the decessive factor there is always the methode of preparations and the ressources given to the athletes by their respective federations for example my country got 0 medals so far in  tokyo and only one in the previous two olympics even if the national football team do a great job and we have some quality athletes.

[Fredomago]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

To be honest, when I opened the link, I expected to see something more shocking. This is a common spanking and in many sports it is a routine phenomenon (for example, in weightlifting) associated with the fact that the athlete is thus trying to get an additional rush of adrenaline. Maybe this video went viral because of the preliminary shaking that the trainer did to begin with?

I bet it's very motivating... when you get slapped like this you are ready for the real fight, whoever comes next! I didn't see this, now the coach is facing criticism, as we can read in the article... I am not sure what to think, is it OK or not... I believe they are not doing this for the first time, after all, this is a fighting discipline, so this "motivational slapping" can be good! Just my opinion, if they are crazy enough to fight, why not have some crazy preparation for the fight! So I agree with KTChampions here, this video is not so shocking as a sensational headline sounds to be!

If that's  a ritual means it's there before and they are continuing to practice it before starting the fight, just for my own opinion
I agree that it helps to build additional rush and keeping the heat inside you.

It helps mentally that you are eager to take down whoever facing you after feeling that anger, such hard slapped like that,
you'll try to find way to release that anger.

We dont' know why but it's between coach and players/fighters to understand the value of it.

[snipie]

Have you seen the slap ritual of a coach before his athlete goes into fight?
This is now viral: Olympic athlete slapped in face by coach in pre-fight ‘ritual’

Hell yeah! Exactly how my wife wakes me up each morning! 

lol, I have to search the effect of morning slaps on short term performance and long term health
Well I saw that slap on reddit and I found it a way of motivating the player. Dunno why people and officials condemned this since the player didn't show to be surprised and already mentioned it was her demand. The only thing that surprised me is her nationality, thought it was Russian or from an ex-USSR country. Well after all shaking and slapping isn't effective all times!

[Silberman]

I was rooting for Simone Biles to snatch golds in this Olympics, but seems that it will not happen anymore.
Let us just respect what she is going thru, because it is said that medical issue was the reason why she pulled out.
But I believe, it is more of mental struggle on her. And it is hard to go thru that phase and compete where everybody is watching.
Maybe, we will see her again in other competition, if in case, she will not announce her retirement to this sports.

I really think the delay of a whole year took a toll on her, we must remember that even if she is 24 years old and for our standards that is very young for the standards of artistic gymnastics that is really old, if the pandemic had not happened then that would have meant one year less of training and then she could have competed and retire from the sport, but she had to grind yet another year and to me this is catching up to her at the worst possible time.

[Marvelman]

It does not matter where you live. What matters is money. You can live on the moon, train there and be the Olympic gold medallist. But money is only 50% of the success. For example UAE has all the money of the world, but they are rarely seen on the pedestal.

I agree that money is not always the deciding factor. National politics can also play a substantial role.
Post-communist countries generally have a lot of top athletes. Because medal counts were a matter of national and ideological pride during the Cold War, communist governments like the Soviet Union, East Germany or Cuba were able to allocate government resources much more efficiently to build sporting giants. In spite of its poverty and small population, Cuba has won more than twice as many Summer Olympics medals than, for instance, Brazil. ^(source)