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If you think logically, gambling companies are supposed to be entertainment; however, some people are taking it seriously in order to earn large sums of money, and it is their fault for having that mindset and not being concerned about their financial situation.
It's not totally wrong to treat gambling seriously for a purpose of earning large sums of money. For a gambler, I like that mindset rather than the common quote here to only gamble the amount afford to lose and just gamble for fun. With that mindset and target to earn large money, it will make a gambler serious and focus making it the reason why should they won, at least. But unfortunately, as you have mentioned, others aren't being concerned about their financial situation and it now affects their life outside gambling. It's something that gambling companies don't have control so it's not valid if they will be held responsible for that.
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August 02, 2021, 10:15:54 PM |
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If you think logically, gambling companies are supposed to be entertainment; however, some people are taking it seriously in order to earn large sums of money, and it is their fault for having that mindset and not being concerned about their financial situation.
It's not totally wrong to treat gambling seriously for a purpose of earning large sums of money. For a gambler, I like that mindset rather than the common quote here to only gamble the amount afford to lose and just gamble for fun. With that mindset and target to earn large money, it will make a gambler serious and focus making it the reason why should they won, at least. But unfortunately, as you have mentioned, others aren't being concerned about their financial situation and it now affects their life outside gambling. It's something that gambling companies don't have control so it's not valid if they will be held responsible for that. A very wrong mindset to have and why would companies would be taking the blame if the gambler becomes addicted? Its true that gambling could be addictive but you arent forced to play on said place which this is a matter of someones decision in terms of their finances and if they do mess up then they have no rights on suing out the company just because they become broke because of gambling. All matters on how you do handle your finances and you wont really be ending up on that situation and you have no right on blaming everyone but only blame yourself on why you hadnt able to control yourself when it comes to gambling.
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August 02, 2021, 10:40:25 PM |
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I can gamble throwing pennies against a wall, in college we used to gamble with a pack of cards between lessons and on the bus back and forth and no company was involved. Gambling isnt an exclusive product, the sole burden of handling a personal problem with gambling is the person themselves. The companies should do their best to comply with requests to restrict access or whatever measure can help maybe capital controls of amount available to gamble but beyond that they can only do so much and the idea the gamble doesn't exist without a company is a fallacy.
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August 02, 2021, 11:34:39 PM |
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It is out of the scope of what they offer. It is the people themselves who are inflicting harm toward others, and you can't expect a gambling platform to police such activities especially if it's outside their premises.
Out of their scope indeed and its none of their business if they players got addicted into the service that they do give into people.Its for entertainment and there are no other intentional thing that would be putting them on harm and since its their decision to make and not on the casinos and just like what others been saying that its their decision to make and its just right that they would be facing up the consequences on the things that they had done.Its not their problem if someones get addicted since it is not the casino who had been holding their money to spend on.So theres no other to blame but only yourself.
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August 02, 2021, 11:39:17 PM |
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Morally yes technically no. Gambling companies are just fulfilling a requirement of a market, if there aren't any gamblers then there won't be any gambling industry but there are actually. The adrenaline rush from gambling or other risky activities is hardwired in most of us.
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August 02, 2021, 11:44:42 PM Last edit: August 02, 2021, 11:56:00 PM by Theones |
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.
They propose, that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However, we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.
Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
Casinos and gambling sites write that they help addicts just to show that they are ethical. Think about it - after all, it is the casinos that want as many people as possible to be addicted. The only thing casinos and gambling sites do to help people who are addicted to gambling is to get rid of all their money. Everyone has to be very careful not to become addicted and that is the best solution. However, when someone becomes addicted, he has to go to a specialist and ask his loved ones for help - only they can help, not the casino.
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August 03, 2021, 01:21:37 PM |
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Moreover, for whatever reason it is true that the Casino does not need to be held accountable in such a way. We would find it very unethical if the Casino was burdened with the risk that should be on the side of the players. Everyone has their own responsibilities, if a gambler is really a gambler, how could they claim the risk that the gambler should bear.
There is really no accountability for the casino. It's known to be a casino and a gambler knows what he's doing and if he's down to gamble. And before he goes into that casino, login his username and password, he's aware of the possible drawback of his action. If it's a win, will he blame the casino? no. But if he loses, then that's the blame that will start? That's unfair on the side of the business that the gambler already knew its side effects from the very start. Therefore, it would be nice if a gambler reads the rules to the end so as not to misunderstand the applicable rules. Because usually the rookies who play carelessly, do not put forward the applicable rules, they are too hasty and want to play immediately and become winners. If you encounter difficulties, the casino is often completely blamed. Because the casino will help with complaints only within the scope of the site then later on it is no longer their responsibility to provide assistance. Reading the rules is a must for every terms and conditions that has been set. Because not reading so will lead you to assume that the casino is at full accountability even if you lose from them. They're for the business and that's really the business model that they've got. They earn from the gamblers who are losing and that's what everyone has to understand and it's not that their problem if you can no longer control yourself from losing and gambling.
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Reading the rules is a must for every terms and conditions that has been set. Because not reading so will lead you to assume that the casino is at full accountability even if you lose from them. They're for the business and that's really the business model that they've got. They earn from the gamblers who are losing and that's what everyone has to understand and it's not that their problem if you can no longer control yourself from losing and gambling.
Rules are No. 1, although we don't really like rules. Because as guests we certainly have to appreciate what is our obligation to stay there for a long time and get comfortable gambling. The host and all related in it is their right to continue to apply the rules as they should. Maybe the casino owner will say, if you don't like it then please leave our house. No one is really forcing you to play, therefore you dont really actually have the right to make complaints or sue them out on why you had become addicted because this is a self decision for you to play that long on a gambling site or place.They are not really responsible on why you become addicted and they wont care on treating off those addicted ones since these are people who would be making out more revenue to theirs.They would just simply ignore you when you dont have money to play and the rest is something you should need to care.
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August 04, 2021, 09:42:22 PM |
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Reading the rules is a must for every terms and conditions that has been set. Because not reading so will lead you to assume that the casino is at full accountability even if you lose from them. They're for the business and that's really the business model that they've got. They earn from the gamblers who are losing and that's what everyone has to understand and it's not that their problem if you can no longer control yourself from losing and gambling.
Rules are No. 1, although we don't really like rules. Because as guests we certainly have to appreciate what is our obligation to stay there for a long time and get comfortable gambling. The host and all related in it is their right to continue to apply the rules as they should. Maybe the casino owner will say, if you don't like it then please leave our house. No one is really forcing you to play, therefore you dont really actually have the right to make complaints or sue them out on why you had become addicted because this is a self decision for you to play that long on a gambling site or place.They are not really responsible on why you become addicted and they wont care on treating off those addicted ones since these are people The only thing you can complain to gambling sites ia if they didn't give us fair games or gives us better service towards using their website but for anything related to addiction or losing our wealth then we cannot go and complain about what happen to us since in the first place we are the one who came to them and play its just we abuse ourselves thats why we came to a bad positions and provably lost everything we have.
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I agree, for a long time I have been tired of people that want all kind of rights to be given but they do not want to accept the responsibilities that come with those rights, if people want the freedom to do almost whatever they want then they need to accept the responsibilities that come with it, casinos should not be held responsible for the losses that their clients incur, if someone doesn't want to lose money while the gamble then there is a very easy solution, do not gamble, but if you want to do it then you need to accept that you are taking a risk and that if you do not control it then you're going to pay the price.
We as a person demand for a rights that we think we deserve but we should bear in mind too that every rights we demand we also to take a responsibility for ourselves and for the establishments especially gambling establishments or institution that we are opt to in. There are are limitations for the demand of our rights and if we were going to look for something to blame on in our losses due to our reckless decisions then the establishments has nothing to do with it. That’s alright to ask for some help but we have no right to demand for them to help us because in the first place, we choose to gamble at our own risk and the casinos are not responsible for the next action that you’ll take. Addiction is a broad concern for many, casinos can’t control it but they offer a help through their organizations that focuses more on addict gambler. We have to play based on capacity, don’t force yourself beyond the limit. Exactly, gambling is optional, no one is forcing anyone to gamble and to use their money in something that they do not want, if people want to gamble then they need to accept the possibility that they are going to lose money, there is no way around it, anyone that does not understand this simply does not have the mental maturity to gamble and it is up to them to realize this fact and avoid gambling if that is the case, and if they cannot do this then they are completely responsible for it.
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at least they will be required to put some amount each month for funding in case there is a need for gambling related activities?
example if someone tries to rob or other related case and he was killed or hospitalized because of his action and obviously done because of gambling addiction , then there is some funds that can be use to support their family or at least medications.
And I don't think if there is a rule like they cover any medical expenses when a gambler/s has been injured/killed even they can prove that they are in gambling. Or the CSR will take responsibility with you? This is not what I see as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself. Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us.
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August 06, 2021, 09:45:51 PM |
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at least they will be required to put some amount each month for funding in case there is a need for gambling related activities?
example if someone tries to rob or other related case and he was killed or hospitalized because of his action and obviously done because of gambling addiction , then there is some funds that can be use to support their family or at least medications.
And I don't think if there is a rule like they cover any medical expenses when a gambler/s has been injured/killed even they can prove that they are in gambling. Or the CSR will take responsibility with you? This is not what I see as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself. Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us. ^ That is impossible that there is a benefit like that, just like insurance for its users once there is unexpected will happen. Most likely in the offline casinos but in the online casinos, I never heard such a case like this. Possible if a gambling site has offered any health insurance per year or the month and it could be at that time, the casino has a responsibility to you when there is something that happens to you. But if not, that is impossible, we should take control of our money ourselves.
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August 06, 2021, 10:17:15 PM |
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at least they will be required to put some amount each month for funding in case there is a need for gambling related activities?
example if someone tries to rob or other related case and he was killed or hospitalized because of his action and obviously done because of gambling addiction , then there is some funds that can be use to support their family or at least medications.
And I don't think if there is a rule like they cover any medical expenses when a gambler/s has been injured/killed even they can prove that they are in gambling. Or the CSR will take responsibility with you? This is not what I see as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself. Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us. ^ That is impossible that there is a benefit like that, just like insurance for its users once there is unexpected will happen. Most likely in the offline casinos but in the online casinos, I never heard such a case like this. Possible if a gambling site has offered any health insurance per year or the month and it could be at that time, the casino has a responsibility to you when there is something that happens to you. But if not, that is impossible, we should take control of our money ourselves. I cant really think off that those things would be solely offered into their users unless for some exemption when you are a whale or big spender of a casino then you might really be getting some perks but i dont really expect that much that it would connect out to health insurances or something like that.They arent responsible on what would happen to you since its already out of the scope of their responsibility. They're here to give out entertainment to people and its up to someone on how they would be handling up their finances.Its out of their scope on babysitting those people who had been addicted.
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August 06, 2021, 10:47:22 PM |
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at least they will be required to put some amount each month for funding in case there is a need for gambling related activities?
example if someone tries to rob or other related case and he was killed or hospitalized because of his action and obviously done because of gambling addiction , then there is some funds that can be use to support their family or at least medications.
And I don't think if there is a rule like they cover any medical expenses when a gambler/s has been injured/killed even they can prove that they are in gambling. Or the CSR will take responsibility with you? This is not what I see as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself. Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us. ^ That is impossible that there is a benefit like that, just like insurance for its users once there is unexpected will happen. Most likely in the offline casinos but in the online casinos, I never heard such a case like this. Possible if a gambling site has offered any health insurance per year or the month and it could be at that time, the casino has a responsibility to you when there is something that happens to you. But if not, that is impossible, we should take control of our money ourselves. I cant really think off that those things would be solely offered into their users unless for some exemption when you are a whale or big spender of a casino then you might really be getting some perks but i dont really expect that much that it would connect out to health insurances or something like that.They arent responsible on what would happen to you since its already out of the scope of their responsibility. They're here to give out entertainment to people and its up to someone on how they would be handling up their finances.Its out of their scope on babysitting those people who had been addicted. I consider this to be a joke of the century because I have never a certain rule which stated that the casino to help their customers who are addicted and later rob, killed, or hospitalized. They can help the victim if they want to and it will also be if the incident happens within their environs and the same applied to the customer that is a big spender if he/she is yet to be a club member.
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August 07, 2021, 07:36:46 AM |
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There is no need to put responsibility in the company in relation to harmful activities. at first, they did not force you to play the game and they didn't do anything to persuade you, if you get addicted to gambling, you lose your meals, taking a bath and you got sick because you only focused on gambling then that is not their fault because you are the one who chose to be like that.
I get your point the companies shouldn't be held responsible for gamblers carelessness but at some point this companies can also help reduce the harm. It will be ethical if this gambling companies require statement of account from gamblers before registration so the help them manage their deposits and regulate the amount the will stake for every bet And also set limits to which the can play on daily, weekly and monthly basis.
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August 07, 2021, 08:47:52 AM |
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I did not want to mention that before because it will make people not to have freedom, government should not be too strict like that, but just want to clear rodskee that he is not totally right, we should know that nobody cares, if the government want to care that way, people will say the government are making people not to have freedom, but we should know that it is we ourselves that should care for ourselves, that is why only 18+ are the people that are allowed to gamble by law, children can not gamble, we should fight all means that can let us be an addict because nobody cares, neither the government, the betting companies do not care but like people to gamble more.
And that's why the current system of taking care of addicts is at an impasse, since the government nor the addicts themselves are actually able to do anything, since well, because of personal freedom. Ngl, the government DOES care (well, at least some of them I suppose), it's just that their care is way too old, ineffective, and useless, that it seems like they actually don't give a single damn about the current state of gambling addiction. It's a sad state yes, but it has been like that for a long time imo.
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August 07, 2021, 09:28:33 AM |
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Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
I have seen that many gambling houses tried self-locking facility kind of things to make sure their core business will not impact their customers in more depth but people do find their own way to breach such things which eventually ending up blaming the gambling houses. Whatever CSK practices being incorporated by gambling houses, when gamblers are not ready to feel their responsibilities then we cannot expect any changes in gambler's approach toward gambling. Changes should begin from the gamblers which may grow up to effective levels when houses also join with gamblers to co-operate.
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August 07, 2021, 09:42:27 AM |
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as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself.
Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us.
If the gambler file a complaint in court I don't think it will prosper, it's going to be a long and expensive case, and casinos can hire the best lawyers because they are well funded and they have a lot of connections when it comes to gambling we must see to it that we become obsessive in gambling we can do this by limiting our time and focusing on other things and strengthening our relationship with our family.
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August 07, 2021, 09:46:20 AM |
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
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August 07, 2021, 09:53:21 AM |
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Yes. Casinos should definitely be responsible when it comes to addiction cases - and they should offer things like voluntary self exclusion, self help resources, etc. to the best of their ability in order to make sure that problem gamblers have the least chance of becoming addicted.
But at the end of the day, is it really fair to expect them to do any more?
They're running a for profit business, not a charity. And gamblers can always come back with alts even with self-exclusion, so it's not failsafe by any means.
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