Bitcoin Forum
December 05, 2016, 06:52:09 PM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.13.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 [45] 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 »
  Print  
Author Topic: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2)  (Read 138735 times)
jamesg
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1330


AKA: gigavps


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
 #881


The only thing BFL needs to do is deliver product as ordered.

Which they already failed massively on...

My understanding is that if anyone with an active order is not happy about how this situation is progressing, they are free to get a refund at any time ... I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Huh

+1
1480963929
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480963929

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480963929
Reply with quote  #2

1480963929
Report to moderator
1480963929
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480963929

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480963929
Reply with quote  #2

1480963929
Report to moderator
1480963929
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480963929

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480963929
Reply with quote  #2

1480963929
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1480963929
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480963929

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480963929
Reply with quote  #2

1480963929
Report to moderator
1480963929
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480963929

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480963929
Reply with quote  #2

1480963929
Report to moderator
n0ne
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 308


Trusted Bitcoin Gambling website


View Profile WWW
January 21, 2012, 08:20:33 PM
 #882


The only thing BFL needs to do is deliver product as ordered.

Which they already failed massively on...

My understanding is that if anyone with an active order is not happy about how this situation is progressing, they are free to get a refund at any time ... I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Huh

Now come one, that's to logical for these trolls. They don't even have money invested in these, they're just crying for the sake of crying.

tysat
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 952


Keep it real


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 08:20:47 PM
 #883

Removed a bunch of off topic posts.  More posts will be removed if they are off topic.
simonk83
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 896


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
 #884


Witnessed.

Thanks for your contribution Matthew (don't feed the trolls champ).

To Randy: Fine, I concede it could be worded better (much better I guess), but as I said you picky little shit, I understand what they mean.

I imagine you've already emailed them to get it fixed up, right? 
DiabloD3
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1162


DiabloMiner author


View Profile WWW
January 21, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
 #885

This thread isn't really appropriate for hardware anyhow. Moving to offtopic.

RandyFolds
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434



View Profile
January 21, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
 #886

Ahhh...off topic, my home away from home.

▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
▓▓ ONEDICE.ME ▓▓▓▓▓ BEST DICE EXPERIENCE ▓▓▓▓ PLAY OR INVEST ▓▓▓▓▓▓
▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
fred0
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 349


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 08:51:38 PM
 #887

So, no news from BFL?
Matthew N. Wright
Untrustworthy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588


Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
 #888

So, no news from BFL?

We'll be doing a full product review in 2 weeks when they hand over a single Vladimir to test and photograph in our UK office for BitTalk Media. Look for it in the first issue of BitTalk Magazine.


Matthew

RandyFolds
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434



View Profile
January 21, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
 #889


The only thing BFL needs to do is deliver product as ordered.

Which they already failed massively on...

My understanding is that if anyone with an active order is not happy about how this situation is progressing, they are free to get a refund at any time ... I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Huh

Now come one, that's to logical for these trolls. They don't even have money invested in these, they're just crying for the sake of crying.

If they were selling used tires with this poor of a marketing strategy, I would still be mocking them. I am not sure anyone has money invested in 'these' because as of yet, 'these' don't exist.

Prove me wrong, BFL. I already said I'd buy one if they exist.

▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
▓▓ ONEDICE.ME ▓▓▓▓▓ BEST DICE EXPERIENCE ▓▓▓▓ PLAY OR INVEST ▓▓▓▓▓▓
▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
sadpandatech
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 504



View Profile
January 21, 2012, 10:31:31 PM
 #890

not sure if this had been posted yet

I saw this picture the first time. Where do you have this picture from?

I think this is the 'Rev B' board; the one with the beefed up power supply.

Aye, with all the spam, people missed it for the most part.

This board has been massively redisgned. The new one is now almost twice the mm^2 as well.
Rev A


Rev B

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system. - GA
It is being worked on by smart people. -DamienBlack
sadpandatech
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 504



View Profile
January 21, 2012, 10:40:47 PM
 #891

...
Yeah, a FF784 package on a FF780 footprint. right.
While we're making random shit up, EP3SL70 or 110 (can't see any way to fit 120 rounds in a SL50, even 64 single-stage rounds is pushing it).
50 was my first guess. It is 500MHz, but you figure not enough room to make it work at 400+MHs?  The only reason I did not pick the obvious, bigger ones is that once you hit SL70+ they are all $1 grand+ :/

How about this one at 600MHz?
http://components.arrow.com/part/search/1.1v+fpga+stratix+iii

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system. - GA
It is being worked on by smart people. -DamienBlack
kano
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918


Linux since 1997 RedHat 4


View Profile
January 21, 2012, 10:45:21 PM
 #892

not sure if this had been posted yet

I saw this picture the first time. Where do you have this picture from?

I think this is the 'Rev B' board; the one with the beefed up power supply.

Aye, with all the spam, people missed it for the most part.

This board has been massively redisgned. The new one is now almost twice the mm^2 as well.
Rev A
http://butterflylabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BitForce-PCB-Side-A.jpg

Rev B
http://i.imgur.com/vrzol.jpg
So I guess the coffee mug picture will need to be re-shot also then.
Actually with a 80W usage rather than a 20W usage, I wonder if it can be put in a small box like that any more anyway.

Pool: https://kano.is BTC: 1KanoiBupPiZfkwqB7rfLXAzPnoTshAVmb
CKPool and CGMiner developer, IRC FreeNode #ckpool and #cgminer kanoi
Help keep Bitcoin secure by mining on pools with Stratum, the best protocol to mine Bitcoins with ASIC hardware
DiabloD3
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1162


DiabloMiner author


View Profile WWW
January 21, 2012, 11:00:13 PM
 #893

Looks like they really redesigned the VRM farm

Epoch
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 917



View Profile
January 22, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
 #894

Looks like they really redesigned the VRM farm

Yes, and as @sadpandatech observed the new board is now physically larger. It definitely won't fit in their original enclosure.

BTC: 1DJVUnLuPA2bERTkyeir8bKn1eSoRCrYvx
NMC: NFcfHSBBnq622pAr1Xoh9KtnBPA5CUn6id
fred0
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 349


View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:08:27 PM
 #895

Looks like they really redesigned the VRM farm

Yes, and as @sadpandatech observed the new board is now physically larger. It definitely won't fit in their original enclosure.
Do you mean the board is different size or more real estate on the board is utilized?  I doubt that the board is a different size, they would have to scrap the cool fabbed enclosures.

[Edit:  now that I looked more closely at the photos, the new board does look bigger, hope it doesn't affect delivery dates, I mean 4-6 weeks after all]
Unacceptable
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1932



View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:18:36 PM
 #896

Has anyone heard of what the warranty is for any of Butterfly Labs products??

Icarus has a 48 hour warranty,for almost $600 that's not good enough for me.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole."  -Raylan Givens
Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be
"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan Smiley
Epoch
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 917



View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:19:52 PM
 #897

Looks like they really redesigned the VRM farm

Yes, and as @sadpandatech observed the new board is now physically larger. It definitely won't fit in their original enclosure.
Do you mean the board is different size or more real estate on the board is utilized?  I doubt that the board is a different size, they would have to scrap the cool fabbed enclosures.

It is pretty clear from the Rev A and Rev B photos that the board is physically larger. The mounting holes won't fit into the original enclosure dimensions. I suspect the new enclosure will look similar, only slightly wider and deeper; at least 2cm on a side. Height should remain the same at 70mm.

With the larger size, I'm hoping BFL will replace the 80mm fan with a 92mm version ... they certainly have the real-estate now. And, with the added power requirements, a larger fan would certainly help.

BTC: 1DJVUnLuPA2bERTkyeir8bKn1eSoRCrYvx
NMC: NFcfHSBBnq622pAr1Xoh9KtnBPA5CUn6id
Epoch
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 917



View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
 #898

Has anyone heard of what the warranty is for any of Butterfly Labs products??

BFL stated on the forum that it would honor a 6-month warranty and that they would update the website to that effect. They have not updated the website yet, so I'm not sure how 'official' the 6 months is.

BTC: 1DJVUnLuPA2bERTkyeir8bKn1eSoRCrYvx
NMC: NFcfHSBBnq622pAr1Xoh9KtnBPA5CUn6id
fred0
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 349


View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:30:07 PM
 #899

Looks like they really redesigned the VRM farm

Yes, and as @sadpandatech observed the new board is now physically larger. It definitely won't fit in their original enclosure.
Do you mean the board is different size or more real estate on the board is utilized?  I doubt that the board is a different size, they would have to scrap the cool fabbed enclosures.

It is pretty clear from the Rev A and Rev B photos that the board is physically larger. The mounting holes won't fit into the original enclosure dimensions. I suspect the new enclosure will look similar, only slightly wider and deeper; at least 2cm on a side. Height should remain the same at 70mm.

With the larger size, I'm hoping BFL will replace the 80mm fan with a 92mm version ... they certainly have the real-estate now. And, with the added power requirements, a larger fan would certainly help.
As long as the fan is quiet, I'm good with that.

Frankly, I can't wait to get rid of these GPUs, making noise and sucking electricity.
Unacceptable
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1932



View Profile
January 22, 2012, 09:48:10 PM
 #900

Has anyone heard of what the warranty is for any of Butterfly Labs products??

BFL stated on the forum that it would honor a 6-month warranty and that they would update the website to that effect. They have not updated the website yet, so I'm not sure how 'official' the 6 months is.

Thanks!! That's better than the other FPGA's Smiley

I know I read about the warranty somewhere here,but couldn't find it again in this thread.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole."  -Raylan Givens
Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be
"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan Smiley
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 [45] 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!