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August 21, 2021, 12:35:32 AM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

Yeah, Caleb is a good boxer, no doubt about it, but he is not on Canelo's level in my opinion. Canelo is way above any middle or super middle weight champion and has improved a lot in the last two years and continue to become one of the best in our generation.

Caleb Plant is a stationary fighter, I don't see much movement from him in his previous fight, he just go in front of his opponent and try to use his power. But it won't make difference, as Canelo will find that body shot to weaken or knock him out.

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August 21, 2021, 02:50:18 AM
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Canelo's next opponent looks hard to find. The negotiations seem to be unstable even until now. The match between Alvarez and Plant was almost a done deal before things turned out differently. There came Bivol as the next possible opponent but it seems to have fallen through as well. I hope this is it and Canelo and Caleb is really going to face each other inside the ring come October. This is a better fight than the other possibility. But still I think Canelo is in his peak and it is very hard for Caleb to surmount Canelo's power and tough chin.
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August 21, 2021, 03:28:50 AM
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Canelo’s next opponent in boxing is hard to find canelo’s boxing dominance has earned him a great 51-1-2 record, but can he jump on two weight divisions to win over an experienced player of this level. Alvarez set foot in the ring in Las Vegas on Saturday in hopes of becoming four time world champions against kovalev it's the store's potentially historic boxing night and it'll be better than canallo than our alvarez.
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August 21, 2021, 04:01:21 AM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

If he wins plus a couple of defenses against the top name in the middleweight and he will land as the greatest middleweight of all time, I still consider Bernard Hopkins as the best middleweight champion He compiled 20 defenses against 17 opponents he is also the first man to hold all four major sanctioning body titles (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) in any division at the same time, Golovkin also has that record but Hopkins was still fighting at 40, now Canelo can break this record judging the way he fights.

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August 22, 2021, 10:57:06 PM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

If he wins plus a couple of defenses against the top name in the middleweight and he will land as the greatest middleweight of all time, I still consider Bernard Hopkins as the best middleweight champion He compiled 20 defenses against 17 opponents he is also the first man to hold all four major sanctioning body titles (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) in any division at the same time, Golovkin also has that record but Hopkins was still fighting at 40, now Canelo can break this record judging the way he fights.

It's debatable, for me the greatest is Marvin Hagler, seen his fight when I was growing up. Of course Hopkins record will stand and also could be considered in the top 10 if not top 3. But Canelo is campaigning now in the 168 lbs and as hight as 175 lbs.

Regarding the Canelo's fight with Caleb Plant, I think this is going to be one-sided fight and Plant will get the worst beating of his career against Canelo.

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August 23, 2021, 03:23:48 AM
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Saul Alvarez v Caleb Plant: Title unification bout set for Las Vegas in November

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I'm glad that it will finally push there's a lot of accusations on both sides, Canelo is already a great fighter but one fighter who is up for debate if he really that great and that is Plant, the fight is very important for both fighters, for Canelo to seal his being an undisputed middleweight champion and for Plant who is seeking big money and big names for a long time, I'm sure this is going to be a very interesting fight and will end in a stoppage.

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Saul Alvarez v Caleb Plant: Title unification bout set for Las Vegas in November

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I'm glad that it will finally push there's a lot of accusations on both sides, Canelo is already a great fighter but one fighter who is up for debate if he really that great and that is Plant, the fight is very important for both fighters, for Canelo to seal his being an undisputed middleweight champion and for Plant who is seeking big money and big names for a long time, I'm sure this is going to be a very interesting fight and will end in a stoppage.
I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.
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August 23, 2021, 06:16:50 AM
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I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.

if you happen to take a big risk on Plant, the odds are like 7.50 on him. if miraculously, he can pull this off, you will go home big. because placing bet on Canelo is somewhat not worth at 1.08. maybe, let's just be contented watching this fight this nov. hopefully, there will be new blood in boxing that will make this sports alive. this is why a lot of boxing fans are sad when Pacquiao mentioned that this ugas fight might be his last.

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August 23, 2021, 06:38:57 AM
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I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.

Canelo, still the heavy favorite here fans all over the world, is eyeing for him to win.

This another good fight for Alvarez defending his belt and putting his name once again to the top, while just like you said it's a big challenge for Plant as he have now the chance to be known by many fans outside, good paycheck and if he wins, it would open many big opportunities for his career.
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August 23, 2021, 07:41:42 AM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.

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August 23, 2021, 07:53:00 AM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
It's going to be a miracle for Plant to to win with Canelo because Canelo is a vastly different against Plant, even during Canelo's rusty moments, I am pretty sure that Plant will have a hard time.
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August 23, 2021, 08:41:12 AM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
It's going to be a miracle for Plant to to win with Canelo because Canelo is a vastly different against Plant, even during Canelo's rusty moments, I am pretty sure that Plant will have a hard time.

They still have time to practice some kind of unique skills to surprise each other because as we saw yesterday, an unexpected strategy is the most effective one. No matter how good your opponent if you come with a nice and smooth strategy that will leave him clueless to counter, he won't gonna beat you, or you might end up winning with TKO because upsets will make your opponent lose control of the fight.
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August 23, 2021, 10:58:17 AM
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It's going to be a miracle for Plant to to win with Canelo because Canelo is a vastly different against Plant, even during Canelo's rusty moments, I am pretty sure that Plant will have a hard time.

It will even be a miracle, if this fight ends with decision. I expect lots of body punches and the fight will end in beginning of its second half; 6-7 round probably with RTD.
In the fight against Saunders, Canelo already has shown how dominant he is, and Saunders is a better fighter than Plant imo.

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August 23, 2021, 12:30:21 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.

We can't compare the Manny upset though, Pacquiao train for a different fighter and he is no longer in his prime. Bu here, Canelo is just at the peak of his career, no distractions whatsoever, unlike Manny who thinks of his political career.

So I think it will have a lot of factors that will make Canelo loss this fight against Plant, in my opinion.

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August 23, 2021, 04:10:20 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.

We can't compare the Manny upset though, Pacquiao train for a different fighter and he is no longer in his prime. Bu here, Canelo is just at the peak of his career, no distractions whatsoever, unlike Manny who thinks of his political career.

So I think it will have a lot of factors that will make Canelo loss this fight against Plant, in my opinion.

We just don't know the outcome of the fight, so both fighters should have a chance to win, in this case, it's pretty obvious that Canelo has a higher chance of winning as he has been winning his fights lately in a convincing manner, but since he is still human, he can also make a mistake that would cause him a fight, in short, upset could happen anytime.

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August 23, 2021, 04:19:06 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.

We can't compare the Manny upset though, Pacquiao train for a different fighter and he is no longer in his prime. Bu here, Canelo is just at the peak of his career, no distractions whatsoever, unlike Manny who thinks of his political career.

So I think it will have a lot of factors that will make Canelo loss this fight against Plant, in my opinion.

Pacquiao and Canelo are two different fighters but with the same burning passion which is to- win at all cost.

Like what I previously mentioned, ever since Canelo lost to Mayweather, he developed and honed his skill and technique further. He developed into a more dangerous, skilled, and stronger boxer which is unparalleled on his weight division. When Canelo fought GGG, we all thought that GGG would be able to take his crown but it all proved futile. Now that the fight between Canelo vs Caleb will push through, I have my money bet on Canelo due to his raw power and technique.

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August 23, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.

We can't compare the Manny upset though, Pacquiao train for a different fighter and he is no longer in his prime. Bu here, Canelo is just at the peak of his career, no distractions whatsoever, unlike Manny who thinks of his political career.

So I think it will have a lot of factors that will make Canelo loss this fight against Plant, in my opinion.

Pacquiao and Canelo are two different fighters but with the same burning passion which is to- win at all cost.

Like what I previously mentioned, ever since Canelo lost to Mayweather, he developed and honed his skill and technique further. He developed into a more dangerous, skilled, and stronger boxer which is unparalleled on his weight division. When Canelo fought GGG, we all thought that GGG would be able to take his crown but it all proved futile. Now that the fight between Canelo vs Caleb will push through, I have my money bet on Canelo due to his raw power and technique.


We all have our own prediction, at this time it's just hard to bet against Canelo because we saw how dominant he is in his previous fights, all his wins after the GGG fight were all impressive, it's a TKO, KO and UD. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/348759

Now, I'm just waiting for the odds as it might still not attractive to bet on him winning without handicap.

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August 23, 2021, 04:48:34 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
It's going to be a miracle for Plant to to win with Canelo because Canelo is a vastly different against Plant, even during Canelo's rusty moments, I am pretty sure that Plant will have a hard time.

They still have time to practice some kind of unique skills to surprise each other because as we saw yesterday, an unexpected strategy is the most effective one. No matter how good your opponent if you come with a nice and smooth strategy that will leave him clueless to counter, he won't gonna beat you, or you might end up winning with TKO because upsets will make your opponent lose control of the fight.

Which is common inside this sport, training camps always find ways on how to counter their opponents,

Watching fighters previous fight and study all the movements, both camps do have enough time to deal with every information that they needed.

We can't conclude until the fight was over, boxing always have lots of surprises, we never know what kind of fight Plant will bring to Alvarez.

Who knows maybe another upset from the heavy favorite, only time can tell.
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August 23, 2021, 05:14:11 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
Yes, anything may happen as long as the athletes aren't out of the league, because those boxers could exhibit extraordinary skills that they haven't shown in previous battles.

They're fighting for a cause, so it's a matchup, and each boxer is the greatest in the league.
I'm sure Plant will come up with a way to improve his abilities in order to battle Canelo.
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August 23, 2021, 06:52:02 PM
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Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
Yes, anything may happen as long as the athletes aren't out of the league, because those boxers could exhibit extraordinary skills that they haven't shown in previous battles.

They're fighting for a cause, so it's a matchup, and each boxer is the greatest in the league.
I'm sure Plant will come up with a way to improve his abilities in order to battle Canelo.

Sometimes preparation is the key to success inside the ring.
Whatever the style of the fighter, if he prepared diligently, he has the chance.
Studying the plan and techniques how to counter the opponent, just like what Ugas did to Pacquiao.
So if there will be upset on this, all those bettors for Plant will go home for a celebration.
That is, if Caleb will really do his job to find a way how to defeat Canelo inside the ring.
Because as it stands right now, Canelo is the heavy favorite in the betting odds.
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