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September 06, 2021, 07:37:29 PM
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Well, with the Caliber of Canelo Alvarez, it's unlikely that Caleb will win. Canelo will look to fight an undefeated fighter as that's what the opponent can only be proud of as they have not fought a high-caliber boxer in their life. I am not underestimated Caleb Plant, but he should double his hard work to last in this fight and possibly wins it.

He needs to do everything in order to have his chance of winning this fight against high caliber Alvarez. Both have their own reasons to win as they are still on the top of their careers.

Caleb thought have a slight chance in the eyes of most fans considering how tough Alvarez was, and with all those previous fights that Alvarez wins he might need a deeper review of each fighting skills that Alvarez may use against him, doing overtime with his trainings and trying to imitate if what can be thrown to him, I mean more on shadow practices.

It may help him in preparing with all the counters that he needs and all the defenses that he should have, Alvarez was so smart and reading opponents skills is one that he always have inside his mind, he's always trying to corner his opponents and try to win the fight with a huge margin aside from knocking it down.

If nothing else, maybe we will see a toe-to-toe fight here as both are considered to be still in prime.
But I understand that Canelo is the favorite here but who knows, we may see an upset, though the likelihood is low.
Let us see if Canelo will exercise all his skills here to win without a doubt.
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September 06, 2021, 08:43:05 PM
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Well, with the Caliber of Canelo Alvarez, it's unlikely that Caleb will win. Canelo will look to fight an undefeated fighter as that's what the opponent can only be proud of as they have not fought a high-caliber boxer in their life. I am not underestimated Caleb Plant, but he should double his hard work to last in this fight and possibly wins it.

He needs to do everything in order to have his chance of winning this fight against high caliber Alvarez. Both have their own reasons to win as they are still on the top of their careers.

Caleb thought have a slight chance in the eyes of most fans considering how tough Alvarez was, and with all those previous fights that Alvarez wins he might need a deeper review of each fighting skills that Alvarez may use against him, doing overtime with his trainings and trying to imitate if what can be thrown to him, I mean more on shadow practices.

It may help him in preparing with all the counters that he needs and all the defenses that he should have, Alvarez was so smart and reading opponents skills is one that he always have inside his mind, he's always trying to corner his opponents and try to win the fight with a huge margin aside from knocking it down.

If nothing else, maybe we will see a toe-to-toe fight here as both are considered to be still in prime.
But I understand that Canelo is the favorite here but who knows, we may see an upset, though the likelihood is low.
Let us see if Canelo will exercise all his skills here to win without a doubt.

He always does, he never disappointed us in all his fights as he is always up for the competition, my only concern here is his opponent, would he still be the same fighter that is undefeated if he gets hit by a solid punch of Canelo Alvarez? Upset is possible but not likely, at least that's why everyone thinks as Canelo is on his best shape of his career, a prime Canelo cannot easily bow down to anyone.

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September 06, 2021, 11:07:55 PM
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Right, and now that he has Canelo's attention, it will be very bad for Caleb for bringing this as this is provoking Canelo. Alvarez has seen a lot and for sure he was not affected by it. And worst this can be his final motivation to really put a punishment on Caleb's big mouth. I'm seeing the best version of Canelo is this fight and I will not be surprised if the fight doesn't last a distance. So Caleb better be prepared now that he uses this strategy that will backfire on him.

Caleb has an enviable record in professional boxing until now (12 KOs out of his 21 wins, with no losses). But he has never faced an opponent of the caliber of Canelo. His last three opponents were Caleb Truax, Vincent Feigenbutz and Mike Lee (all three faced him for the IBF super middleweight title). These opponents can't even be compared to Canelo. And Caleb has again made some controversial statements. It is interesting that I haven't heard much from Canelo for the last few days. Caleb has been doing all the talk.

Canelo doesn't talk that much in public, and if ever he opens his mouth, he don't trash talk, he talks more of the fight itself rather than his opponent. That's why he is quiet right now, just occasional post in his official twitter promoting the fight, that's it.

This is Caleb's biggest fight so far, and his record is on that line, because Canelo might take that 0.

Well, with the Caliber of Canelo Alvarez, it's unlikely that Caleb will win. Canelo will look to fight an undefeated fighter as that's what the opponent can only be proud of as they have not fought a high-caliber boxer in their life. I am not underestimated Caleb Plant, but he should double his hard work to last in this fight and possibly wins it.

Right, Canelo is far more superior, has the experienced to really beat any version of Caleb Plant.

He is even voted or name as the number 4 marketable athlete in the world (this could be debatable).

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-named-worlds-most-marketable-male-athlete-anthony-joshua-no-75-gervonta-davis-no-89--160261

So let's see what version of Caleb Plant will show, yes we don't underestimate him, but even if he works double hard, it might not be enough for beat Canelo in this fight.

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September 06, 2021, 11:52:54 PM
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So let's see what version of Caleb Plant will show, yes we don't underestimate him, but even if he works double hard, it might not be enough for beat Canelo in this fight.

In fact, I'm more seeing Caleb Plant is more determined to win here because of his status as an underdog.

Just thinking the recognition he will get if he will upset Canelo is already an inspirational to him and will make him more focus and serious to take down Alvares.

Can't wait for this match to happen.

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September 06, 2021, 11:59:36 PM
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There are videos showing Caleb Plant is really doing some hard practice and training for this fight. With that effort, we can really see that he is determined to win despite the fact that Canelo Alvarez is too much to him. But just come to think of it, Caleb Plant won't be considered as Canelo's opponent if he is not that strong. Caleb Plant should think that he deserves to face a monster as that was part of building a good career.

Defeating Canelo Alvarez is really difficult to do. He won't have that low odds for nothing. It shows his reputation is really top of the class.
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September 07, 2021, 02:35:05 AM
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Well, with the Caliber of Canelo Alvarez, it's unlikely that Caleb will win. Canelo will look to fight an undefeated fighter as that's what the opponent can only be proud of as they have not fought a high-caliber boxer in their life. I am not underestimated Caleb Plant, but he should double his hard work to last in this fight and possibly wins it.

Unlikely. But not impossible. We have seen upsets in the boxing ring before. Remember the James Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson match more than three decades ago? Tyson had odds of -4200. And I consider Canelo, even at his peak noway near Mike Tyson. Also, Tyson was -2500 favorite in his match against Evander Holyfield. And everyone knows what happened then. If you want recent fights, then I can give examples of Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz or Wladimir Klitschko vs Corrie Sanders. Canelo's odds (-800) for this match are much lower than what these fighters had before they got beaten. 

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September 07, 2021, 02:57:44 AM
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There are videos showing Caleb Plant is really doing some hard practice and training for this fight. With that effort, we can really see that he is determined to win despite the fact that Canelo Alvarez is too much to him. But just come to think of it, Caleb Plant won't be considered as Canelo's opponent if he is not that strong. Caleb Plant should think that he deserves to face a monster as that was part of building a good career.

Defeating Canelo Alvarez is really difficult to do. He won't have that low odds for nothing. It shows his reputation is really top of the class.

Hopefully, he will not overtrain in this fight, long way before the actual date, so chances are if he continues to do some hard work, it might caught up with him in the fight. Like what happen to Manny wherein the cramps was attributed to overtrain and someone massaging his legs during the fight itself.

So his training should be perfect and it should be peaking on the fight night so that he is 100% ready because this is going to be a hard and grind for Caleb.

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September 07, 2021, 04:00:47 AM
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Right, and now that he has Canelo's attention, it will be very bad for Caleb for bringing this as this is provoking Canelo. Alvarez has seen a lot and for sure he was not affected by it. And worst this can be his final motivation to really put a punishment on Caleb's big mouth. I'm seeing the best version of Canelo is this fight and I will not be surprised if the fight doesn't last a distance. So Caleb better be prepared now that he uses this strategy that will backfire on him.

Caleb has an enviable record in professional boxing until now (12 KOs out of his 21 wins, with no losses). But he has never faced an opponent of the caliber of Canelo. His last three opponents were Caleb Truax, Vincent Feigenbutz and Mike Lee (all three faced him for the IBF super middleweight title). These opponents can't even be compared to Canelo. And Caleb has again made some controversial statements. It is interesting that I haven't heard much from Canelo for the last few days. Caleb has been doing all the talk.

Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.

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September 07, 2021, 12:15:58 PM
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There are videos showing Caleb Plant is really doing some hard practice and training for this fight. With that effort, we can really see that he is determined to win despite the fact that Canelo Alvarez is too much to him. But just come to think of it, Caleb Plant won't be considered as Canelo's opponent if he is not that strong. Caleb Plant should think that he deserves to face a monster as that was part of building a good career.

Defeating Canelo Alvarez is really difficult to do. He won't have that low odds for nothing. It shows his reputation is really top of the class.

Hopefully, he will not overtrain in this fight, long way before the actual date, so chances are if he continues to do some hard work, it might caught up with him in the fight. Like what happen to Manny wherein the cramps was attributed to overtrain and someone massaging his legs during the fight itself.

So his training should be perfect and it should be peaking on the fight night so that he is 100% ready because this is going to be a hard and grind for Caleb.


He's getting enough time to prepare. He should be more focus on how to be aware himself with mental domination of Alvarez,

It's tough to fight someone which you know that better than you, trying to do everything is what the fans expecting from him,
he needs to prepare both mentally and physically.

The monstrous presentation of Alvarez inside the ring would be tested one more time. Plant will take every opportunity
knocking him down he needs to stand at front countering those punches and try to throw much heavier than what Alvarez will give him.
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September 07, 2021, 01:15:18 PM
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Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.
Like any other drama that famous people gets in, this is probably like any other kind of that drama, to make more money because with this as you've said will sell more tickets. But given that a lot are still excited about this fight, I think that they're still going to garner a lot of audience.

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September 08, 2021, 03:58:13 AM
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Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.

He doesn't need to sell the fight, since it has already attracted so much attention. That said, I really doubt whether the PPV buys this time will match the sales made back in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo took on Golovkin. Back then the expectation was for a close fight between two evenly matched boxers. But this time, a lot of people expect the match to be lop-sided and many assume that Caleb will not last the full 12 rounds. But for us, it is the gambling odds that matters. The odds can change drastically, since two months remain for the match (-1000 for Canelo right now). 

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September 08, 2021, 04:11:38 AM
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Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.


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September 08, 2021, 11:37:28 AM
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Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.



You are the first one who believes that Plant would give a competitive fight, well, I like that because seeing a fan of plant here means he has a believer. I know Canelo is too hype, but he is really too good now and he deserves that hype, however, if we would really see a competitive fight, then that's good for boxing.

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Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.



You are the first one who believes that Plant would give a competitive fight, well, I like that because seeing a fan of plant here means he has a believer. I know Canelo is too hype, but he is really too good now and he deserves that hype, however, if we would really see a competitive fight, then that's good for boxing.

I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

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September 08, 2021, 05:20:42 PM
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Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.
He doesn't need to sell the fight, since it has already attracted so much attention. That said, I really doubt whether the PPV buys this time will match the sales made back in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo took on Golovkin. Back then the expectation was for a close fight between two evenly matched boxers. But this time, a lot of people expect the match to be lop-sided and many assume that Caleb will not last the full 12 rounds. But for us, it is the gambling odds that matters. The odds can change drastically, since two months remain for the match (-1000 for Canelo right now). 

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking,  obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

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I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

It's for the benefits of the fans. If we see both fighters showcase their talents and try to knock one another, it will be an interesting fight and, for sure, whoever wins the fight, a call for a rematch will happen.

Just the same with your sentiment, Plant is not a champion for nothing, right? He also earned this title fighting to every fighter from this division, though it's we need to accept the fact that Canelo has more fans and bookies seen that the advantage still on his part.

The final ring will decide if who will win this fight and we will witness if both fighters will come out with a surprising fighting style.

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September 08, 2021, 09:30:27 PM
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I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

It's for the benefits of the fans. If we see both fighters showcase their talents and try to knock one another, it will be an interesting fight and, for sure, whoever wins the fight, a call for a rematch will happen.

Just the same with your sentiment, Plant is not a champion for nothing, right? He also earned this title fighting to every fighter from this division, though it's we need to accept the fact that Canelo has more fans and bookies seen that the advantage still on his part.

The final ring will decide if who will win this fight and we will witness if both fighters will come out with a surprising fighting style.


At least this one may possibly give us a really worthwhile boxing match to watch out for and not waste the money of their audience. Because some boxers are going to the extent of being technical inside the ring forgetting that they have fans wanting to see a 'brawl' inside the ring. Wink Canelo is the heavy favorite here so don't know if bettors will still bet on him, unless, they will put large some of money.
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So let's see what version of Caleb Plant will show, yes we don't underestimate him, but even if he works double hard, it might not be enough for beat Canelo in this fight.

In fact, I'm more seeing Caleb Plant is more determined to win here because of his status as an underdog.

Just thinking the recognition he will get if he will upset Canelo is already an inspirational to him and will make him more focus and serious to take down Alvares.

Can't wait for this match to happen.

Every underdog is determined to win, to proved that the betting public or at least sports bookies are wrong putting them as underdog.

Yes, it will be one of the biggest upsets of the year, more than Ugas defeating Pacquiao. But it's going to be a tall order of Caleb to even hit Canelo with a damaging punch that will change the fight itself. Not only you mate, everyone can't wait to see this fight, it's a reunification fight and Plant is the last guy standing for Canelo to get all the belts at 168 lbs.

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I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking,  obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

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September 09, 2021, 06:18:33 AM
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IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

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