[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant

[LogitechMouse]

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking,  obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing . Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

[Fredomago]

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking,  obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing . Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

Much better to see things in actions instead of listening or reading those trash talks between these two fighters. Trash talks are part of advertisement and social media's giving promoters free services.

What Plant are doing is more on encouraging Alvarez to go toe to toe. Maybe he's trying to heat things up and try to find lapses with Alvarez and take his chance.

Whatever it is, the more actions they'll going to bring inside the ring, the better value for the money of all the fans and gamblers that
will going to buy tickets, watch PPV and bet with them.

[Maslate]

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking,  obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing . Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

Much better to see things in actions instead of listening or reading those trash talks between these two fighters. Trash talks are part of advertisement and social media's giving promoters free services.

What Plant are doing is more on encouraging Alvarez to go toe to toe. Maybe he's trying to heat things up and try to find lapses with Alvarez and take his chance.

He would not love the result if Canelo would fight him toe to toe, we know who is the stronger fighter and we know that Canelo would never back down as he loves to fight toe to toe. This is boxing and it's entertaining if both fighters will give their 100% to fight each other, and a toe-to-toe fight will never make the fight boring.

Whatever it is, the more actions they'll going to bring inside the ring, the better value for the money of all the fans and gamblers that
will going to buy tickets, watch PPV and bet with them.

Canelo always makes a good fight especially if his opponent are willing to give him a good fight.

[bisdak40]

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

[goaldigger]

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

Of course its normal to have fear but its also a good thing if you ignore those negative thoughts and focus on your target and goal. Canelo is very professional handling this one, we cannot blame him for that let’s just see the result of his work and let’s see if Plant will be better than his trash talking.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

[Botnake]

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Inoue will no longer be undefeated if he will lose against Casimero in their fight, that's why this fight is very important to him so he can continue his journey, while Casimero is also looking to shock the world by beating the monster that everyone is struggling to beat, so it's a must watch fight, it was already announce by one party only, hopefully it will be confirm by a formal announcement with a proof of contract signing.

[Fredomago]

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

That's another motivation for Alvarez, winning everything under this division a very well recognition and a dream of every fighter to have this same record.

We have our own bets and we do wish to see great actions against these two fighters. Just like how I voice out my sentiment, the more action we see, the more we fan will love both fighters, whoever wins the fight, both will have a deserving kudos to everyone if they will
fulfil what we wanted to see from them in this match.

[Finestream]

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

That's another motivation for Alvarez, winning everything under this division a very well recognition and a dream of every fighter to have this same record.

We have our own bets and we do wish to see great actions against these two fighters. Just like how I voice out my sentiment, the more action we see, the more we fan will love both fighters, whoever wins the fight, both will have a deserving kudos to everyone if they will
fulfil what we wanted to see from them in this match.

Canelo will never fail us, as long as Caleb Plant is aggressive too, I think there's no reason we will not enjoy this fight. Canelo is one the greatest fighter now, probably a hall of Famer too in the future, and he is still young so we will continue to see more big fights of his.

Caleb Plant tries to play some mind games against Canelo, but Canelo is silent because he does his talking in the ring, and the more Caleb Plant talks, the more Canelo will be motivated in beating him, I think that's fair enough.

[Sithara007]

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Being elevated as the undisputed champion is a big target for Canelo. That's perhaps the reason why he is focusing on the fight so much, and ignoring the thrash talk by Caleb Plant. Actually it is nice to see him training so hard, not taking the opponent casually (even with the odds so heavily stacked up in his favor). And this makes him different when compared to many of the other boxing legends. And for me, I was initially planning to make a bet in favor of Plant. However, with each passing day his chances of an upset win seems to be nearing zero.

[Hypnosis00]

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Being elevated as the undisputed champion is a big target for Canelo. That's perhaps the reason why he is focusing on the fight so much, and ignoring the thrash talk by Caleb Plant. Actually it is nice to see him training so hard, not taking the opponent casually (even with the odds so heavily stacked up in his favor). And this makes him different when compared to many of the other boxing legends. And for me, I was initially planning to make a bet in favor of Plant. However, with each passing day his chances of an upset win seems to be nearing zero.

That's too much, if that's what you think then I guess it's almost impossible that Caleb will take an upset here. As for me, I think the chance of Caleb is around 20% or 20/100, it's still fun to bet on the underdog with the odds that is very rewarding, however, we all know that Canelo is unbeatable at the moment, so I might just throw a little dollars for this fight.

[South Park]

Right, and now that he has Canelo's attention, it will be very bad for Caleb for bringing this as this is provoking Canelo. Alvarez has seen a lot and for sure he was not affected by it. And worst this can be his final motivation to really put a punishment on Caleb's big mouth. I'm seeing the best version of Canelo is this fight and I will not be surprised if the fight doesn't last a distance. So Caleb better be prepared now that he uses this strategy that will backfire on him.

Caleb has an enviable record in professional boxing until now (12 KOs out of his 21 wins, with no losses). But he has never faced an opponent of the caliber of Canelo. His last three opponents were Caleb Truax, Vincent Feigenbutz and Mike Lee (all three faced him for the IBF super middleweight title). These opponents can't even be compared to Canelo. And Caleb has again made some controversial statements. It is interesting that I haven't heard much from Canelo for the last few days. Caleb has been doing all the talk.

Canelo has never distinguished himself as a trash talker, he just prepares himself to the best of his ability and then he gives his best in the fight, so it is natural that Caleb is the one that feels the need to begin to talk and try to get the public on his side with all kind of remarks about the fight, but at the end of the day it does not matter, what matters is what you can do above the ring and I think Canelo is going to easily win this fight.

[Kemarit]

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Being elevated as the undisputed champion is a big target for Canelo. That's perhaps the reason why he is focusing on the fight so much, and ignoring the thrash talk by Caleb Plant. Actually it is nice to see him training so hard, not taking the opponent casually (even with the odds so heavily stacked up in his favor). And this makes him different when compared to many of the other boxing legends. And for me, I was initially planning to make a bet in favor of Plant. However, with each passing day his chances of an upset win seems to be nearing zero.

That's too much, if that's what you think then I guess it's almost impossible that Caleb will take an upset here. As for me, I think the chance of Caleb is around 20% or 20/100, it's still fun to bet on the underdog with the odds that is very rewarding, however, we all know that Canelo is unbeatable at the moment, so I might just throw a little dollars for this fight.

I don't know, but for me, Caleb's chances might be 10% or less. Yes, Canelo is so much in focus of this fight and most probably grinding hard because it is for the record after all. Undisputed champion, and beat the hell out of everyone in this division, and the think it, many said that Billy Joe Saunders will have a good chance, but look at what he did, he totally destroyed Billy Joe and sent him to the hospital. So the chance of Canelo being upset here is near zero.

[Sithara007]

Canelo has never distinguished himself as a trash talker, he just prepares himself to the best of his ability and then he gives his best in the fight, so it is natural that Caleb is the one that feels the need to begin to talk and try to get the public on his side with all kind of remarks about the fight, but at the end of the day it does not matter, what matters is what you can do above the ring and I think Canelo is going to easily win this fight.

LOL.. if Caleb was thinking that he'll get the public on his side with all the trash talk, then from the previous experience I have to say that he's wrong. Earlier he had some support from the fans, naturally because he's the underdog. But many of them would be repelled by the provocations from his side. That said, I don't know whether I should directly blame Caleb. Perhaps there is a chance that the organizers asked him to do that, in order to get some cheap publicity for the fight (I won't be surprised if that is true).

[Jawhead999]

I don't know, but for me, Caleb's chances might be 10% or less. Yes, Canelo is so much in focus of this fight and most probably grinding hard because it is for the record after all. Undisputed champion, and beat the hell out of everyone in this division, and the think it, many said that Billy Joe Saunders will have a good chance, but look at what he did, he totally destroyed Billy Joe and sent him to the hospital. So the chance of Canelo being upset here is near zero.

I tend to agree because Billy Joe was a good boxer but he still lose against Alvarez, so I feel it will be going a same result with this fight too. Both of boxer are training hard to win, Plant's need do more hard work twice or triple times than Alvarez if he want to win. As been said this is will be the biggest fight so far, I hope they're have fun on the ring.

it's still fun to bet on the underdog with the odds that is very rewarding, however, we all know that Canelo is unbeatable at the moment, so I might just throw a little dollars for this fight.

Plant will be a huge underdog here, of course the odds will be very rewarding and it's always fun to bet on huge underdog since it's unexpected and much more adrenaline to see an upset. But IMO if you want to bet on an underdog, make sure there's a good possibility of an upset.

[Yamifoud]

it's still fun to bet on the underdog with the odds that is very rewarding, however, we all know that Canelo is unbeatable at the moment, so I might just throw a little dollars for this fight.

Plant will be a huge underdog here, of course the odds will be very rewarding and it's always fun to bet on huge underdog since it's unexpected and much more adrenaline to see an upset. But IMO if you want to bet on an underdog, make sure there's a good possibility of an upset.

Mostly the odds would tell on the possibility of an upset, the higher the odds of the underdog, the lower the chance of an upset, and we've seen that many times in the sports of boxing. However, as I say mostly, we should not only rely on the odds as sometimes the favorites is overvalued due to hype.

[bryant.coleman]

Mostly the odds would tell on the possibility of an upset, the higher the odds of the underdog, the lower the chance of an upset, and we've seen that many times in the sports of boxing. However, as I say mostly, we should not only rely on the odds as sometimes the favorites is overvalued due to hype.

Odds also depend on the way gamblers bet. If a lot of people make bet on a particular athlete, then the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust the odds, in order to minimize their losses if he wins. We saw this during Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman. When the match was announced, Thurman was the favorite, and Manny's odds were like +225. But then in the next few weeks, his fans made huge amount of bets in his favor and this forced the gambling sites to change their odds. If I am not wrong, a few days before the fight, the odds had improved to around -150 for Manny.

[minairia3]

I don't know, but for me, Caleb's chances might be 10% or less. Yes, Canelo is so much in focus of this fight and most probably grinding hard because it is for the record after all. Undisputed champion, and beat the hell out of everyone in this division, and the think it, many said that Billy Joe Saunders will have a good chance, but look at what he did, he totally destroyed Billy Joe and sent him to the hospital. So the chance of Canelo being upset here is near zero.

I tend to agree because Billy Joe was a good boxer but he still lose against Alvarez, so I feel it will be going a same result with this fight too. Both of boxer are training hard to win, Plant's need do more hard work twice or triple times than Alvarez if he want to win. As been said this is will be the biggest fight so far, I hope they're have fun on the ring.

Canela has been destroying anyone that comes in his ways. The perfect example of this is his fight against Billy. People thought that that might be an even soft fight and look what he has done to Billy. Caleb is clearly the underdog here and upsetting Canela right now is tougher than ever. Maybe 10 to 15% chance but no more than that.

[freedomgo]

I don't know, but for me, Caleb's chances might be 10% or less. Yes, Canelo is so much in focus of this fight and most probably grinding hard because it is for the record after all. Undisputed champion, and beat the hell out of everyone in this division, and the think it, many said that Billy Joe Saunders will have a good chance, but look at what he did, he totally destroyed Billy Joe and sent him to the hospital. So the chance of Canelo being upset here is near zero.

I tend to agree because Billy Joe was a good boxer but he still lose against Alvarez, so I feel it will be going a same result with this fight too. Both of boxer are training hard to win, Plant's need do more hard work twice or triple times than Alvarez if he want to win. As been said this is will be the biggest fight so far, I hope they're have fun on the ring.

Canela has been destroying anyone that comes in his ways. The perfect example of this is his fight against Billy. People thought that that might be an even soft fight and look what he has done to Billy. Caleb is clearly the underdog here and upsetting Canela right now is tougher than ever. Maybe 10 to 15% chance but no more than that.

You are right about the probability, according to the odds which we can see in https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-plant-odds
Canelo Alvarez is -1,000, while Caleb Plant is +550, if we convert the odds to probability using a converter - https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

the answer would be 90.9% implied probability, so that's even 9.1% chance for Caleb Plant to win.

[Jating]

I don't know, but for me, Caleb's chances might be 10% or less. Yes, Canelo is so much in focus of this fight and most probably grinding hard because it is for the record after all. Undisputed champion, and beat the hell out of everyone in this division, and the think it, many said that Billy Joe Saunders will have a good chance, but look at what he did, he totally destroyed Billy Joe and sent him to the hospital. So the chance of Canelo being upset here is near zero.

I tend to agree because Billy Joe was a good boxer but he still lose against Alvarez, so I feel it will be going a same result with this fight too. Both of boxer are training hard to win, Plant's need do more hard work twice or triple times than Alvarez if he want to win. As been said this is will be the biggest fight so far, I hope they're have fun on the ring.

Canela has been destroying anyone that comes in his ways. The perfect example of this is his fight against Billy. People thought that that might be an even soft fight and look what he has done to Billy. Caleb is clearly the underdog here and upsetting Canela right now is tougher than ever. Maybe 10 to 15% chance but no more than that.

For me the biggest test is GGG, it might be controversial on how both fight ends, but Canelo taking GGG's best shot and didn't even flitch, it's a sign that Canelo could destroy anyone in the 160-168 lbs. And he did, BJS is another classic example. The Brit is a natural super MW but Canelo beat him badly. So it's hard to think that Caleb Plant has a chance, highly unlikely that he can beat Canelo at his best weight class and this record of form and style of Alvarez.