Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable?

[OgNasty]

When I started with the campaign, there was already a delay of about 5 weeks in paying us, then it went up to 6, then 7. Someone who had been with the campaign for a long time explained that in principle the payments were supposed to be weekly, but it usually took 2 weeks to pay, then 3, then 4.

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign.  I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run.  Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive.  Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid.  People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them.  I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

[1714329767]

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[Stalker22]

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign.  I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run.  Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive.  Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid.  People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them.  I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

What are you talking about Og? As he stated in the first post, Poker Player is no longer participating in the Bitvest campaign, but still has an outstanding claim.

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In the end I left the campaign because I found a better one and I am still waiting to be paid for two weeks from 10-11 weeks ago.

Besides, you may have overlooked the fact that lightlord owes both campaigns participants for more than 10 weeks now. This has grown into a substantial amount:

Based on the spreadsheet, the total amount overdue for the last 10 rounds is: 0.2359419 (Bitvest) + 0.1070795 (777Coin), or about $19,000 based on Bitcoin's current value (not including bonuses). Quite a bit, I must say.

[Timelord2067]

This is a good find. Most of his posts last year clearly show that he's part of the Bitvest team. Maybe a developer.

What is disappointing is that he has also been offline since August 06, 2021

I don't know if there are any issues coming up on Bitvest and 777coin, but I would certainly stop using those sites as a precaution.

What's even more interesting is their last post (in August 2020) reads in part:

On June 17, 2020, an exploit was made against how we handle ETH contract deposits.

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It was caught quickly, and the losses mitigated before any losses exceeding the size of our hot wallets occurred.

and then there's this:

Seems my account has been permanently banned from discord. Not sure why.

Six days later, it's business as usual:

The new official eloncoin discord link is: https://discord.gg/kqSkxuSAjH

Coincidentally, Zodiac1233 was Last Active:    2021-08-06, 12:43:39 (GMT +10 OR 02:43:39 GMT +0) - four hours prior to lightlord posting the above.


As far back as 25 Nov 2013 01:32:36 UTC with just 89 posts (and having registered on Date Registered:    June 11, 2011, 03:43:58 AM GMT) Zodiac1233 was active in the 777coin campaign and had on their profile that they are from Canada - Archive [1a], [1b]

I haven't delved into the spread sheet to see when Zodiac1233 joined that campaign - anyone?

Also, can anyone confirm who other "owners" / "admin of the two sites are? 

I have concerns that these two were registered on the forum seventeen days apart:  (and are "childhood friends")

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2011-06-11, 13:43:58 Date Registered: 	Zodiac1233
2011-06-28, 22:03:49 Date Registered: 	lightlord

2021-08-06, 12:43:39 Last Active: 	Zodiac1233
2021-09-27, 01:01:07 Last Active: 	lightlord

[worldofcoins]

I have concerns that these two were registered on the forum seventeen days apart:  (and are "childhood friends")

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2011-06-11, 13:43:58 Date Registered: 	Zodiac1233
2011-06-28, 22:03:49 Date Registered: 	lightlord

2021-08-06, 12:43:39 Last Active: 	Zodiac1233
2021-09-27, 01:01:07 Last Active: 	lightlord

Joining after a few days could be recommended by Lightlord to their childhood friend in any case it's both went inactive but there's a huge gap between them being inactive.
I am not sure if they're owned by the same person why would lightlord say it's his friend in the first place, Someone who tries to hide their account's connection mostly tries to avoid direct contact but there's a feedback sharing "Childhood friend" that seems legit to me.

[Poker Player]

First of all:



Hopefully this will be resolved soon.

While it's true that with great power comes great responsibility (Spidey senses are tingling), let me give you a small piece of advice: Sometimes you have to be bold, and this is one of those cases IMO where the use of your DT2 powers is justified--and I've already given my reasoning on that in my previous posts, so I won't repeat the same arguments again.

I have been reading about the Trust system recently and have started my custom trust list. You are one of the ones I have added. I have also changed the tag from neutral to negative.

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign.  I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run.  Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive.  Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid.  People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them.  I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

Really, OG? Stalker22 has already told you, but I will expand on it. For someone who has been on the forum for so long, who is legendary and donator, I would expect more than a response that indicates you haven't read anything I've said. Even if you have read what I said, you haven't read it thoroughly because you haven't understood anything.

[UserU]

Finally someone brought this up.

I was part of the 777 coin campaign circa 2020 and the delay started during the COVID pandemic.

Started off 1 week late, which then progressed further to 2, 3 and so forth.

The thing is, he's not shedding light (pun intended) on what's happening.

Also his free BTC thread has been abandoned while some members continue to post, in hopes of getting free reloads or just to fulfil their quota. Should be removed since its dead.

[YOSHIE]

@lightlord, was active today, did he know of this situation or had someone inform him of this matter.

I think someone should PM one more time for @lightlord, responding to this issue.

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

[aysg76]

Thank you for informing me of this thread, as I was unaware that it had been opened. I don't want to repeat here what was said there, but summarizing a lot, proper businesses that move a lot of money, think about that according to Stalker22 are owed over $20K just in advertising, they don't get paralyzed because there is a single person who gets sick.

After i came across that thread in gambling discussion i pop up to your thread and thought of sharing with all of us here that there are many others also facing some similar issues.There are huge amounts owned to the third party and participants of the campaign who are eagerly waiting for the amounts to be credited to the account.As i am aware there were always minor delays in payment and they paid it with bonus but later on they keep on increasing the waiting period like bi- monthly and now 10 weeks are pending.The situations are becoming worse for the members now as many have claimed after you opening up the thread.

@lightlord, was active today, did he know of this situation or had someone inform him of this matter.

I think someone should PM one more time for @lightlord, responding to this issue.

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

Yes i also saw that he was active today but his last post are still dating back to Sep 1st regarding the Eloncoin and after that he has not posted anything.But he must give concern to the matter here as members are not asking for loan or free money but for the weeks they have worked.So the matter should be resolved.

[meser#]

Is there any progress @CryptopreneurBrainboss? We saw him logged into his account today, maybe he replied to you?

[Jawhead999]

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

My prediction @lightlord will give an explanation about his condition and then made fully payment the signature payments he owes. After that happen, he will paid the signature participants on time based his explanation (weekly or biweekly). Probably 2-3 years in the future he will repeat his mistake and we will see similar problem again

Based on his reputation and his both casinos in this forum, the chance is slim if the want to scam.

[Timelord2067]

From recollection, both signature campaigns (although paid in Bitcoin) are also calculated per post in Bitcoin too (in much the same way that coin mixing service was until very recently). Am I remembering this correctly?

With the price if Bitcoin rapidly rising over the last ten weeks. Lightlord etc might not be able to source enough Bitcoin with their funds at hand.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Is there any progress @CryptopreneurBrainboss? We saw him logged into his account today, maybe he replied to you?

He hasn't but I'm quite sure he has seen my message, and from the look of things he has also seem this thread because the red tagged are quite visible now.

I don't know if he'll pay or not which is why I was of the opinion of giving him more time to login in first before decision were taken on tagging him. The tags doesn't make it any easier as he can decide not to pay now since even though he pays the tags would likely not be removed. Participants are been owned here for 10weeks and I was looking for a means of making it easier for them to get paid first before actions are taken.

Maybe a neutral would had been best to warned then after a specific time when we have confirmed he doesn't want to pay then flags and red tagged would be initiated but guess we have to see how it plays out now. Well the community knows best so we'll go with them and hopefully it plays out to our favour.

[LoyceV]

I have been reading about the Trust system recently and have started my custom trust list. You are one of the ones I have added.

Did you wipe it by accident?

Also his free BTC thread has been abandoned while some members continue to post, in hopes of getting free reloads or just to fulfil their quota. Should be removed since its dead.

Report the thread, so a Mod can lock it.

[dustboy]

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

My prediction @lightlord will give an explanation about his condition and then made fully payment the signature payments he owes. After that happen, he will paid the signature participants on time based his explanation (weekly or biweekly). Probably 2-3 years in the future he will repeat his mistake and we will see similar problem again

Based on his reputation and his both casinos in this forum, the chance is slim if the want to scam.

Lets say he pays what he owes and he wants to continue the campaign, he should use an escrow to hold the fund for the campaign at least for few rounds as what he did last year when Hhampuz hold the address 1BitvestxmKKNRjxyHh5Mn1iWovFzs93Hr so the same mistake will not repeat again in the future.

[Poker Player]

I have been reading about the Trust system recently and have started my custom trust list. You are one of the ones I have added.

Did you wipe it by accident?

No, that was my dog.

Can't you see my current list?

I have now started to make another one, and although I have reread your thread, I think it will take me a while to understand 100% how it works. I will probably go to your thread to ask dummie questions (or my dog will go).

[Timelord2067]

When you create a default trust list (as opposed to a trust feedback post) it will look something like this:

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-10-09_Sat_06.10h/21720.html

Trust list for: Zodiac1233 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-10-09_Sat_06.10h)
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Zodiac1233 Trusts these users' judgement:
1. lightlord (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Dabs (Trust: +39 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 816 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Zodiac1233 Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Zodiac1233's judgement is Trusted by:
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~Zodiac1233's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Currently, your own trust list looks like this:

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-10-09_Sat_06.10h/2836461.html (note you can go back through the weeks and review your changes in previous week's).

Trust list for: Poker Player (Trust: neutral) (647 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-10-09_Sat_06.10h)
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Poker Player Trusts these users' judgement:
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Poker Player Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Poker Player's judgement is Trusted by:
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~Poker Player's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. 1miau (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (24) 3285 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[FatFork]

Maybe a neutral would had been best to warned then after a specific time when we have confirmed he doesn't want to pay then flags and red tagged would be initiated but guess we have to see how it plays out now. Well the community knows best so we'll go with them and hopefully it plays out to our favour.

Are you really worried that he may run away because of a few negative tags on his profile? No, I don't think so. This isn't the first time this has happened and trust feedback can very easily be changed to neutral. By the way, what timeframe did you specify? I thought you said the last payment was over ten weeks ago? Not to add insult to injury, but you shouldn't have allowed this amount of debt to accumulate. Not with lightlord's reliability in question.

Anyway, am I the only one who sees a bit of silver lining in putting these campaigns "on hold"? I have a feeling the moderators will finally get some well-deserved rest. 

[Poker Player]

@Timelord2067 and @LoyceV

Loyce.club needs to be updated, then. That data is 12 days old. Look at the date of the link.

[UserU]

I thought you said the last payment was over ten weeks ago? Not to add insult to injury, but you shouldn't have allowed this amount of debt to accumulate. Not with lightlord's reliability in question.

10 weeks in arrear? That's insane!

[Poker Player]

Loyce.club needs to be updated, then. That data is 12 days old. Look at the date of the link.

It's 3 days old: 2021-10-09.
YYYY-MM-DD is the only date format that can be sorted as text and still end up in the correct order.

So. If it's 3 days old and I started another one yesterday, it won't appear. Let's keep these discussion for your trust thread.