Issue of fixed Matches

[Rufsilf]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.

I still believed that some matches are fixed but the information was only limited in the higher ups and management, only limited people can really know if a certain game will be fixed. Some coaches and referees were bribed but still they can't share that information because of NDA.
But on the bottom, only scammers are present and usually they're the ones who are talkative and know how to play your mind to consider their offer. The issues were already present from the stone age until now, and unless we can't prove it, it's better to stay silent only bet what you can afford to lose.

[molsewid]

If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

And that's for sure, there will be few individual that could accessed a winning score for the fixed match provided that they have a legit source of leaked information of fixed match. In this type of game for sure the game initiator will going to kept the true fixed score so that many individual may got to involved in betting aspects without knowing the hidden reality of the game and there's where the big risks takes place once a bettor didn't know about the fixed match and also those who have bet in a score where they don't know if the source is legit or not.

[mv1986]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.

Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.

Right but on the other hand we all here have surely seen some own goals where you can just shake your head because it happened as if the best striker in the world did it. At the same time you wouldn't really think that it was the result of a fixed game. There are human failures that look so spectacular that a fixed game is almost the only possibility for that to happen, but the game still wasn't fixed. It is tough to prove that an action was due to a fixed game.

[Fredomago]

If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

And that's for sure, there will be few individual that could accessed a winning score for the fixed match provided that they have a legit source of leaked information of fixed match. In this type of game for sure the game initiator will going to kept the true fixed score so that many individual may got to involved in betting aspects without knowing the hidden reality of the game and there's where the big risks takes place once a bettor didn't know about the fixed match and also those who have bet in a score where they don't know if the source is legit or not.

If it's true, as rumors are everywhere, only a few who have the legit access. Those people knew and understand how to play well with greedy gamblers who think that it's easy to pocket huge amount of money from these illegal activities. They somehow forecast that leaked are legit and to the point that they are selling it and promise to bring a very decent amount of profits.

In reality! those mafias also used a huge amount of money to facilitate this kind of activities, they will never share anything to ruin the business.

Unless you can also take that big risk using a huge amount of money to tie up with those people

[romero121]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

[bekti3]

they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.

Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.

this is a harsh reality where when they see the supporters of influencers and famous people adoring them so much, and on the other hand they don't care and only look at their own profit.
but this is the law here because indeed this is like natural selection which is the strong one who will survive here and inevitably when the weak want to survive then they must follow the strong, even though the strong one will lead us astray.
there will be no solution when they don't want to make their own way by looking for anything related to crypto or other supporting knowledge.
but this does not apply to people who really don't want to know the process and want to instant

[passwordnow]

Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.

Right but on the other hand we all here have surely seen some own goals where you can just shake your head because it happened as if the best striker in the world did it. At the same time you wouldn't really think that it was the result of a fixed game. There are human failures that look so spectacular that a fixed game is almost the only possibility for that to happen, but the game still wasn't fixed. It is tough to prove that an action was due to a fixed game.

I agree. There's always the case like that and we're wrong with what we've been thinking. Something is playing in our minds with those conclusions that we're ending up but it tends out that we're just overthinking. It's hard to remove in our minds when some unusual moves we have just watched. But at the end of those matches, we just have to enjoy each of them with the sports that we've been a fan of and think that none of them is involved into such sold games.

[Lucasgabd]

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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

in my opinion is better to avoid trying to "cheat" and game the system for a personal gain
there are so many ways to make money without fooling someone or having to rely on a "hot tip" that may be a scam...

[timerland]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?

[crzy]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?

Technology helps them to become more advance and for sure they are taking advantage of this to fool people so for me as well, fixed matches are still here and honestly they grow a lot compare before. Well you can check it on your own so you can know where to place a bet and see if you are into a fixed matches or not, its hard to notice but its there most of the time.

[mirakal]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?

Technology helps them to become more advance and for sure they are taking advantage of this to fool people so for me as well, fixed matches are still here and honestly they grow a lot compare before. Well you can check it on your own so you can know where to place a bet and see if you are into a fixed matches or not, its hard to notice but its there most of the time.

You'll only know there's a fixed match happening if you have info, if not, then you have no idea if such game is fixed or rigged as they act like real actors when they are playing, and also, let's put in mind that not everyone on the floor or on the court knows the game is rigged, sometimes officials do take control of the outcome by using the referees of the game.

This fixed game thing is not new in the sports betting industry, before I started to learn sports betting, I already read about the theory of sports rigged and I am convinced that it's happening once I become more mature being a gambler.

[Jackl87]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.

[Vaskiy]

Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.

Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start

[Betwrong]

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There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?

Absolutely. It's funny that these scammers are trusted by some people because since there are not that much of options, it's either a win, a loss or a draw, they turn out to be right sometimes, and then the rumors start to spread that they really have some inside info on fixed matches. Don't trust them. Just make your bets by yourself, and you'll see that you'll be winning or losing with the same frequency.

[MNbag]

The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.

[bitterguy28]

The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.

Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.

Difficult but Possible of course right?

[freedomgo]

The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.

[xSkylarx]

The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.

Agree i think mostly is the one that has a high rank in the system which they are really know what is happening , also player which they will throw the game which they will not perform well. Money is money which if we are talking to it they will throw everything if they will get a lot of money out of it. I really dont know why they do that , is their winning is not enough ? so they are buying the pride of the games?

[michellee]

The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .

Some gamblers who know about that can benefit from the fixed matches as they will get the information from somewhere they know. But the number of that gamblers will not be too big.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.

Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.

Maybe those people who know about the match will place their bet because they know the final result to win some money. As long as they can manage it correctly, no one will know if they know the result.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.

Difficult but Possible of course right?

Yes, it is possible to use the benefits in fixed matches. But they need to be careful because they should think about the risk and consequences of getting caught by the regulator or the authority.

[Silberman]

they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.

Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.

You have a point however people need to also learn how to protect themselves, if influencers exist is because people are giving them attention and they believe what they say, and if companies are sending them money to promote a product then it is obvious that companies are receiving additional revenue from those streamers, so this is simple if people want this to stop they need to stop watching them, something that you and I know it is never going to happen.