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June 13, 2025, 01:27:01 AM
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Anyone seen this fight?



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On June 14, the legendary Nonito Donaire returns to the ring in Buenos Aires for a high-stakes clash against Chile’s Andrés Campos. The bout, set at the Casino Buenos Aires, will be for the interim WBA bantamweight world title and takes place during the WBA Fedelatin Convention — a major gathering of Latin American boxing figures under the World Boxing Association’s regional banner.

Donaire, the pride of the Philippines and a future Hall of Famer, enters the bout with a storied 42-8

https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/donaire-vs-campos-interim-wba-title-on-the-line-at-fedelatin-convention-in-buenos-aires

I thought that Donaire is done with boxing already. But it seems that he still carry on with a fight with a unknown boxer from Chile, Andrés Campos. And it will be for the WBA Interim Bantamweight champion. First it was Manny Pacquaio, now it's Nonito. It seems that this Filipino legend is still not done yet for the sport and will be looking to get another belt and Donaire could be the oldest bantamweight champion I reckon if he win this fight.

Not that much attention and like what you mentioned it was Pacman who did announce that he's officially going back inside the ring but with Donaire it's a silent one which will gave him another chance to hold another title let see if how things will going to take place and how Donaire will proceed in case that he manage to win against Campos, though he's already no longer on his prime but knowing him once he managed to throw that solid punches he can still bring his opponents down..
Yeah, he is that silent type though and most of the time, it's better to just be a low key fighter or at least your fights is not that well known in your country. But once you won the fight, you will be instant hero in the Philippines again. So let's see for Donaire here, he might still have one fight inside of him. And besides, Campos lacks the experience and this might be similar result when Donaire destroys Ouballi back then. When we thought that Donaire is out already, he had one of his best fight as he knocks out Ouballi with a left hook and become a champion again.

 
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June 13, 2025, 05:12:31 AM
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Anyone seen this fight?

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On June 14, the legendary Nonito Donaire returns to the ring in Buenos Aires for a high-stakes clash against Chile’s Andrés Campos. The bout, set at the Casino Buenos Aires, will be for the interim WBA bantamweight world title and takes place during the WBA Fedelatin Convention — a major gathering of Latin American boxing figures under the World Boxing Association’s regional banner.

Donaire, the pride of the Philippines and a future Hall of Famer, enters the bout with a storied 42-8

https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/donaire-vs-campos-interim-wba-title-on-the-line-at-fedelatin-convention-in-buenos-aires

I thought that Donaire is done with boxing already. But it seems that he still carry on with a fight with a unknown boxer from Chile, Andrés Campos. And it will be for the WBA Interim Bantamweight champion. First it was Manny Pacquaio, now it's Nonito. It seems that this Filipino legend is still not done yet for the sport and will be looking to get another belt and Donaire could be the oldest bantamweight champion I reckon if he win this fight.

Compare to Manny, i think Nonito Donaire have the higher chance of winning this fight as Andres Campos is relatively an unknown fighter. Though older, Nonito still have a couple of fights in him and besides this Campos is not a dangerous opponent compares to the other champions of the bantamweight division. Still money is the reason why Nonito is still in boxing.

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June 13, 2025, 08:00:55 AM
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Anyone seen this fight?

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On June 14, the legendary Nonito Donaire returns to the ring in Buenos Aires for a high-stakes clash against Chile’s Andrés Campos. The bout, set at the Casino Buenos Aires, will be for the interim WBA bantamweight world title and takes place during the WBA Fedelatin Convention — a major gathering of Latin American boxing figures under the World Boxing Association’s regional banner.

Donaire, the pride of the Philippines and a future Hall of Famer, enters the bout with a storied 42-8

https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/donaire-vs-campos-interim-wba-title-on-the-line-at-fedelatin-convention-in-buenos-aires

I thought that Donaire is done with boxing already. But it seems that he still carry on with a fight with a unknown boxer from Chile, Andrés Campos. And it will be for the WBA Interim Bantamweight champion. First it was Manny Pacquaio, now it's Nonito. It seems that this Filipino legend is still not done yet for the sport and will be looking to get another belt and Donaire could be the oldest bantamweight champion I reckon if he win this fight.

Compare to Manny, i think Nonito Donaire have the higher chance of winning this fight as Andres Campos is relatively an unknown fighter. Though older, Nonito still have a couple of fights in him and besides this Campos is not a dangerous opponent compares to the other champions of the bantamweight division. Still money is the reason why Nonito is still in boxing.

Yeah, if we have to based longevity and wear and tear, both could have been in a lot of wars already. But Nonito's resume might not be as good or the competition he fought is not as heavy as Manny during their primes. Both though have made a good comeback throughout in their careers. However, we all know that sooner or later age is going to caught up with them.

It's true, we never heard of Andres Campos but he has one advantage here, the fight is going to be in his homecourt so for sure the fans and the crowd might have a big factor for him. But then again, Nonito is known for his left hook and this will still be his main weapon here and if he is going to score a knockout win, it will be his signature left hook and I still believed that he still possesses that power.

 
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June 13, 2025, 08:15:03 AM
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Yeah, he is that silent type though and most of the time, it's better to just be a low key fighter or at least your fights is not that well known in your country. But once you won the fight, you will be instant hero in the Philippines again. So let's see for Donaire here, he might still have one fight inside of him. And besides, Campos lacks the experience and this might be similar result when Donaire destroys Ouballi back then. When we thought that Donaire is out already, he had one of his best fight as he knocks out Ouballi with a left hook and become a champion again.

I remember that, let see if same outcome after some time taking breaks and now he's back inside the ring if ever he win it again then like what you said, the name will be praise again and he will bring that glory days back and fans will start calling out his next fight hoping that he might have another good fight to line up.

Looking to see if he'll be able to catchup though not really aiming to see taking another shot with Inoue hahaha..

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June 13, 2025, 04:27:32 PM
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Yeah, he is that silent type though and most of the time, it's better to just be a low key fighter or at least your fights is not that well known in your country. But once you won the fight, you will be instant hero in the Philippines again. So let's see for Donaire here, he might still have one fight inside of him. And besides, Campos lacks the experience and this might be similar result when Donaire destroys Ouballi back then. When we thought that Donaire is out already, he had one of his best fight as he knocks out Ouballi with a left hook and become a champion again.

I remember that, let see if same outcome after some time taking breaks and now he's back inside the ring if ever he win it again then like what you said, the name will be praise again and he will bring that glory days back and fans will start calling out his next fight hoping that he might have another good fight to line up.

Looking to see if he'll be able to catchup though not really aiming to see taking another shot with Inoue hahaha..

I thought this guy already retired after losing against Inoue twice.  Grin  But then we learn that Pacquiao is also fighting even at his age which this Donaire come back is not surprising anymore. He used to be the best when I first saw him knocking Montiel down.

Seeing Campos is not so big in knocking his opponent, this could be considered a pro fight still and its a big win for Campos if he knocks Donaire.

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June 14, 2025, 01:48:10 AM
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Yeah, he is that silent type though and most of the time, it's better to just be a low key fighter or at least your fights is not that well known in your country. But once you won the fight, you will be instant hero in the Philippines again. So let's see for Donaire here, he might still have one fight inside of him. And besides, Campos lacks the experience and this might be similar result when Donaire destroys Ouballi back then. When we thought that Donaire is out already, he had one of his best fight as he knocks out Ouballi with a left hook and become a champion again.

I remember that, let see if same outcome after some time taking breaks and now he's back inside the ring if ever he win it again then like what you said, the name will be praise again and he will bring that glory days back and fans will start calling out his next fight hoping that he might have another good fight to line up.

Looking to see if he'll be able to catchup though not really aiming to see taking another shot with Inoue hahaha..

I thought this guy already retired after losing against Inoue twice.  Grin  But then we learn that Pacquiao is also fighting even at his age which this Donaire come back is not surprising anymore. He used to be the best when I first saw him knocking Montiel down.
Same here mate, I also thought that he is done with the sports of boxing specially after that humiliating lost to Inoue by a knockout on the second fight. And if my memory serves me right, he also fought again after that and losing again.

Seeing Campos is not so big in knocking his opponent, this could be considered a pro fight still and its a big win for Campos if he knocks Donaire.
This is a big fight for Campos, and we can consider this like a stepping stone for him. If he beats a legend like Donaire and then got  interim belt, then obviously the next target will be the regular champion and that means bigger paycheck for him.

 
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June 15, 2025, 03:46:19 PM
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Yeah, he is that silent type though and most of the time, it's better to just be a low key fighter or at least your fights is not that well known in your country. But once you won the fight, you will be instant hero in the Philippines again. So let's see for Donaire here, he might still have one fight inside of him. And besides, Campos lacks the experience and this might be similar result when Donaire destroys Ouballi back then. When we thought that Donaire is out already, he had one of his best fight as he knocks out Ouballi with a left hook and become a champion again.

I remember that, let see if same outcome after some time taking breaks and now he's back inside the ring if ever he win it again then like what you said, the name will be praise again and he will bring that glory days back and fans will start calling out his next fight hoping that he might have another good fight to line up.

Looking to see if he'll be able to catchup though not really aiming to see taking another shot with Inoue hahaha..

I thought this guy already retired after losing against Inoue twice.  Grin  But then we learn that Pacquiao is also fighting even at his age which this Donaire come back is not surprising anymore. He used to be the best when I first saw him knocking Montiel down.

Seeing Campos is not so big in knocking his opponent, this could be considered a pro fight still and its a big win for Campos if he knocks Donaire.


Yup, Campos will definitley benefits to this even Donaire is already past on his prime he still known as one of those top fighter in his era, bringing him inside the ring and having that opportunities to fight against him will give Campos a good publicities, let see if how they'll be able to gain attentions especially after the fight if what will be their benefits from each other aside from the money that they'll going to earned out from this schedule fight.

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June 16, 2025, 12:40:17 PM
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And here is the result, it looks like a very ugly fight for Donaire,

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Donaire, 42, beat Andres Campos by technical decision after the bout was stopped in the ninth round after a clash of heads left the Filipino Flash unable to see out of his right eye.

He led on all three scorecards at the stoppage, 87-84, 87-84 and 88-83.

https://ringmagazine.com/en/news/nonito-donaire-wins-technical-decision-in-argentina

But still good to hear that he won the fight, despite that clash of heads and he is in:

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Donaire (43-8, 28 KOs) is now in line to face the winner of Antonio Vargas vs. Daigo Higa, which takes place July 30 in Japan.

So he will have a chance to fight for the belt next, so let's see how it goes for the Filipino Flash, maybe he still has some brilliance in him but it's going to be very hard for him if he will face a great boxer.

 
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^^ Correct, a win is a win and so with this win by Donaire, he is moving to have not just a interim belt but a regular belt for that matter. He is also in his 40's so he might have the record as the oldest bantamweight. I did check the rankings and Higa is ranked #3, Seiya Tsutsumi is the champion in recess that's why Donaire is the interim champion. However, this is pretty stack up weight class with all champions are Japanese, including Junto Nakatani. So I'm not sure how Donaire will survived this division as his age. We also have the younger brother of Naoya almost rank in all divisions. In any case, Donaire will have to dig deeper from his experience if he wanted to reclaim his glory in the bantamweight division of today.

 
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Brian Norman is still untested at this level and very young, but I have a feeling he is going to put Devin Haney to sleep. Against Jose Ramirez, Haney looked afraid and was still rattled by that beating he took at the hands of Ryan Garcia. Norman has only been getting better and is coming off the leading knockout of the year contender in his opponent’s backyard.




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Anyone see Tyson Fury's update on one of his social media?



https://www.instagram.com/p/DLozEmPNTRz/

So he will make a comeback and fight Usyk for a trilogy.

Assuming though that Usyk will win his fight against Dubois. But let's see, obviously, the trilogy will be one of the biggest paycheck if not the biggest paycheck that we might see in boxing so it's all good for both of them.

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Brian Norman is still untested at this level and very young, but I have a feeling he is going to put Devin Haney to sleep. Against Jose Ramirez, Haney looked afraid and was still rattled by that beating he took at the hands of Ryan Garcia. Norman has only been getting better and is coming off the leading knockout of the year contender in his opponent’s backyard.





This another boring fight. Devin Haney's next fight would have been against King Ry if Ryan Garcia was not very lazy to reduce the weight and fight on super lightweight or on a catch weight 142 pounds. This certainly affected his speed and his readiness. On strength, it is still very much there, however, what can you do with this if speed and readiness is not 100%? This certainly showed that strength is not enough. This might sometimes he enough on heavyweight but not enough on lower weight divisions.

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I think it's pretty obvious that when Fury declared that he is going to retire, most of the boxers fans doesn't believed it. And we might be right because of this post, and for sure, it has something to do as well with HE Turki as he might have offered Fury more money to make a comeback. And it's an easy answer for him as boxers like Canelo is getting $100 million from Turki, then for sure Fury can also demand it as well. Nevertheless, we still remember him best coming for his mental issues and drug addiction to become the undisputed Heavyweight champion.

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Brian Norman is still untested at this level and very young, but I have a feeling he is going to put Devin Haney to sleep. Against Jose Ramirez, Haney looked afraid and was still rattled by that beating he took at the hands of Ryan Garcia. Norman has only been getting better and is coming off the leading knockout of the year contender in his opponent’s backyard.
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Devin Haney's confidence is obviously gone in him and it is only a matter of time that he will be broken, i mean someone could officially break that zero in his resume. Garcia showed the template on how to beat Haney and for sure Brian Norman is thoroughly studying it right now. TBH, i have not seen how Norman fought but i'm confident that sooner or later someone will beat Haney.

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This another boring fight. Devin Haney's next fight would have been against King Ry if Ryan Garcia was not very lazy to reduce the weight and fight on super lightweight or on a catch weight 142 pounds. This certainly affected his speed and his readiness. On strength, it is still very much there, however, what can you do with this if speed and readiness is not 100%? This certainly showed that strength is not enough. This might sometimes he enough on heavyweight but not enough on lower weight divisions.

Norman is the youngest champion in boxing. He won the title by knocking out undefeated Top Rank prospect Giovani Santillan in his hometown. He then defended the title in Japan, where he beat Jin Sasaki so bad that he suffered memory loss. He is everything people wanted Ryan Garcia to be, but because he isn’t a social media influencer, he doesn’t get much credit and flies under the radar.

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@FinneysTrueVision. However, who are these boxers that Norman has knocked out? They are trying to hype this Norman but when given a fight against a real boxer, the fight will not be very challenging for the real boxer and for this fight this real boxer is Devin Haney.

I am quite certain this will be another unanimous decision victory for Devin Haney, However, if Norman gets the victory with a knockout, I will begin to follow this man. I very much wish will be very low for Haney hehehehe.

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^^ Correct, a win is a win and so with this win by Donaire, he is moving to have not just a interim belt but a regular belt for that matter. He is also in his 40's so he might have the record as the oldest bantamweight. I did check the rankings and Higa is ranked #3, Seiya Tsutsumi is the champion in recess that's why Donaire is the interim champion. However, this is pretty stack up weight class with all champions are Japanese, including Junto Nakatani. So I'm not sure how Donaire will survived this division as his age. We also have the younger brother of Naoya almost rank in all divisions. In any case, Donaire will have to dig deeper from his experience if he wanted to reclaim his glory in the bantamweight division of today.

Doniare still has the speed and power but not like on his prime, he might be old now but still can win.Even theres a lot of japanese in his class, he is not frieghtened,
What I concern the most if the fight will be on their country. That is the main problem. With his belt, he has the say on this, he should never allow to make the fight in Japan.


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Doniare still has the speed and power but not like on his prime, he might be old now but still can win.Even theres a lot of japanese in his class, he is not frieghtened,
What I concern the most if the fight will be on their country. That is the main problem. With his belt, he has the say on this, he should never allow to make the fight in Japan.

Donaire has lost a lot of speed, which is understandable given that he is now 42 years old. In his last fight against Andres Campos, he appeared almost stationary. The belt he currently holds is an interim one, if I'm not mistaken, while the regular champion is Antonio Vargas. Vargas is set to fight Daigo Higa soon, and the winner will face Donaire. This upcoming match will be a true test for Donaire to see if he still has what it takes to be a champion at his age.


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July 08, 2025, 07:44:27 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious that when Fury declared that he is going to retire, most of the boxers fans doesn't believed it. And we might be right because of this post, and for sure, it has something to do as well with HE Turki as he might have offered Fury more money to make a comeback. And it's an easy answer for him as boxers like Canelo is getting $100 million from Turki, then for sure Fury can also demand it as well. Nevertheless, we still remember him best coming for his mental issues and drug addiction to become the undisputed Heavyweight champion.

It's more of this fighters playing mind games, whether against themselves or their opponents. Teo Lopez if I recall also said that he is going to retire, but he didn't and make a comeback and even training with Manny Pacquaio or Canelo Alvarez.

Right, they just want their stock to go up and so he sort of having a power in him to bargain. Nevertheless, it's good to see him back again and going for the trilogy. And as I have said, it's gong to be mental for him if he can comeback and beat Usyk.

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@btc_angela. It is very headshaking that after losing 2 times against Usyk and Usyk has convinced everyone that he is much better than Tyson Fury, the rich Arab billionaire master Turki is promoting this to become a trilogy? I respect master Turki for what he is doing for boxing, however, this appears to be another fight that is something similar to a scam ICO. They will hype this, take our money and this will be disappointing and similar to Usyk vs. Fury 1 and 2 hehe.

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

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