Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

Beterbiev on the record says that Usyk is too strong for him,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PqLemFtmkpw

So I doubt that we will see a rematch between the two. At least Beterbiev is very honest on himself that he can't go as high as CW or HW and fight Usyk for the biggest paycheck. Not sure about Bivol though, but in his previous interviews as I remember it correctly, he says that Usyk is going to beat Fury and so he is a obvious fan boy of Usyk and with that, I don't think he is willing to go to HW and fight him as well.

[btc_angela]

@btc_angela. It is very headshaking that after losing 2 times against Usyk and Usyk has convinced everyone that he is much better than Tyson Fury, the rich Arab billionaire master Turki is promoting this to become a trilogy? I respect master Turki for what he is doing for boxing, however, this appears to be another fight that is something similar to a scam ICO. They will hype this, take our money and this will be disappointing and similar to Usyk vs. Fury 1 and 2 hehe.

We can only speculate that maybe Turki thinks that there are still market for this fight. And so he is willing to take that risk and invest a lot of money to pay this two fighters. and perhaps because of the deep pockets that he got, he can still put up fights like this that we think that the result is a foregone conclusion.

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

Why not? Again, if we talk about money and if either fighter is offered like $50M or more, then they are more willing to go up 2 weight classes to face Usyk. And they should also think that Usyk was once a crusierweight that moves up to heavyweight.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

Beterbiev on the record says that Usyk is too strong for him,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PqLemFtmkpw

So I doubt that we will see a rematch between the two. At least Beterbiev is very honest on himself that he can't go as high as CW or HW and fight Usyk for the biggest paycheck. Not sure about Bivol though, but in his previous interviews as I remember it correctly, he says that Usyk is going to beat Fury and so he is a obvious fan boy of Usyk and with that, I don't think he is willing to go to HW and fight him as well.

However, similar to what @btc_angela has argued, we should also remember that Usyk was also from a lower weight division and can also be argued that he is a small heavyweight fighter. I reckon both Beterbiev and Bivol will certainly accept the challenge if the billionaire arab master Turki will offer them a big purse.

Beterbiev or Bivol vs.Usyk will certainly cause much passion for boxing fans from Russia and Ukraine and I wish the sport will help bring a recognition from our hearts that we are brothers in this world and give peace a chance.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Hypejob Edgar Berlanga was crushed in 5 rounds in his hometown tonight. I don’t think even with this loss, Berlanga, who calls himself “The Chosen One” and “King of New York”, will learn some humility. He will probably throw another parade for himself, like when he lost to Canelo.

With Munguia losing to Surace and Berlanga losing to Sheeraz, it reinforces the criticism against Canelo that he has been cherry picking opponents who are not all that good. It also raises some questions about how much Canelo has left if he is going the distance against these guys.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

Beterbiev on the record says that Usyk is too strong for him,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PqLemFtmkpw

So I doubt that we will see a rematch between the two. At least Beterbiev is very honest on himself that he can't go as high as CW or HW and fight Usyk for the biggest paycheck. Not sure about Bivol though, but in his previous interviews as I remember it correctly, he says that Usyk is going to beat Fury and so he is a obvious fan boy of Usyk and with that, I don't think he is willing to go to HW and fight him as well.

However, similar to what @btc_angela has argued, we should also remember that Usyk was also from a lower weight division and can also be argued that he is a small heavyweight fighter. I reckon both Beterbiev and Bivol will certainly accept the challenge if the billionaire arab master Turki will offer them a big purse.

And that is the only reason that I can see both Beterbiev and Bivol might chance their minds, if that billionaire power broker HE Turki will offer them a money that they hasn't seen before. But Usyk is also talking about retiring himself, but then Fury unretires then they will have a trilogy. So most likely after that trilogy maybe Usyk will retire or maybe not? And then we can use the same argument as well that the Arab billionaire will give him his biggest paycheck. But we will see, maybe this Russians are talking true to their word that one they retire, it's final.

@FinneysTrueVision - Yes, I saw the news of Berlanga being destroyed, feels satisfying to see this loud mouth finally getting what he deserves. I mean as you have said, he is a hype job and thinks that he can beat Canelo and then talks about greatness. Hopefully, with this lost, he will be humble enough to admit defeat.

[pawel7777]

I've just read that the most famous Saudi boxing promoter, Turki Alalshikh, is planning to organise a fight between Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-jake-paul-fight-35579223

I don't think anybody would expect such a twist for Joshua. From his perspective, that would probably be the biggest money fight he could hope for. After he got brutally KO'ed by Daniel Dubois in his last fight, many fans have written him off.

I have my doubts whether Paul would actually sign a contract and fight AJ. Talk is cheap. And if he does, I would have serious doubts if the fight will be honest or rigged. Let's be honest, even if Joshua is past his prime and even if we give Paul credit for all his previous fights and acknowledge he's not just a YouTuber anymore - we all know that if both fight at 100%, Paul would get KO'd.

[btc_angela]

I've just read that the most famous Saudi boxing promoter, Turki Alalshikh, is planning to organise a fight between Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-jake-paul-fight-35579223

I don't think anybody would expect such a twist for Joshua. From his perspective, that would probably be the biggest money fight he could hope for. After he got brutally KO'ed by Daniel Dubois in his last fight, many fans have written him off.

I have my doubts whether Paul would actually sign a contract and fight AJ. Talk is cheap. And if he does, I would have serious doubts if the fight will be honest or rigged. Let's be honest, even if Joshua is past his prime and even if we give Paul credit for all his previous fights and acknowledge he's not just a YouTuber anymore - we all know that if both fight at 100%, Paul would get KO'd.

Perhaps what Paul can hold as his card is that he bet Mike Tyson, a heavyweight. But that is a totally different story though as AJ is very much active and although he might have lost some fights, he could still pull that trigger.

So not sure if Jake Paul is willing to do this, although as what we have said, Turki has a lot of money and so he can offer Jake money that he can't refuse. As for AJ, he might think that it is going to be an easy fight for him and obviously the money should also be good before he can accept this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon master Turki should wait for the winner of Bivol vs. Beterbiev trilogy and convince the winner to move to heavyweight to challenge Usyk. This will be Russia vs. Ukraine, in boxing only heheheh.

Beterbiev on the record says that Usyk is too strong for him,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PqLemFtmkpw

So I doubt that we will see a rematch between the two. At least Beterbiev is very honest on himself that he can't go as high as CW or HW and fight Usyk for the biggest paycheck. Not sure about Bivol though, but in his previous interviews as I remember it correctly, he says that Usyk is going to beat Fury and so he is a obvious fan boy of Usyk and with that, I don't think he is willing to go to HW and fight him as well.

However, similar to what @btc_angela has argued, we should also remember that Usyk was also from a lower weight division and can also be argued that he is a small heavyweight fighter. I reckon both Beterbiev and Bivol will certainly accept the challenge if the billionaire arab master Turki will offer them a big purse.

And that is the only reason that I can see both Beterbiev and Bivol might chance their minds, if that billionaire power broker HE Turki will offer them a money that they hasn't seen before. But Usyk is also talking about retiring himself, but then Fury unretires then they will have a trilogy. So most likely after that trilogy maybe Usyk will retire or maybe not? And then we can use the same argument as well that the Arab billionaire will give him his biggest paycheck. But we will see, maybe this Russians are talking true to their word that one they retire, it's final.

However, no one has yet retired hehehe, not Usyk, Bivol or Beterbiev. If they have announced that they will retire, they can get out of this declaration and continue to fight if they very much want to face the opponent. However, similar to Khabib, they might never unretire if they have retired and have enough money to live comfortably already.

Usyk is not Russian but similar to Bivol and Beterbiev, you might be correct. It will me a similar type of serious promise.

[pawel7777]

And, to nobody's surprise, Tyson Fury has announced his un-retirement:

https://talksport.com/boxing/3400024/tyson-fury-retirement-anthony-joshua-oleksandr-usyk-daniel-dubois/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-boxing-fight-news-35590986

He aims to return next year and allegedly is in talks wih Turki Alalshikh about a 3-fight contract. Obviously he expressed his willingness to fight Usyk for the 3rd time.
He also excluded fights with Kabayel or Parker, with whom he previously trained and said they are like brothers to him.

[FinneysTrueVision]

He aims to return next year and allegedly is in talks wih Turki Alalshikh about a 3-fight contract. Obviously he expressed his willingness to fight Usyk for the 3rd time.
He also excluded fights with Kabayel or Parker, with whom he previously trained and said they are like brothers to him.

Kabayel and Parker are too high risk and not big enough names, that’s why he is avoiding them. Fury will only face a competitive opponent if there is a massive payday involved, otherwise we are just going to see some tuneups against fighters like Sefer Seferi and Tom Schwarz.

[pawel7777]

Regarding a possible Joshua Vs Paul fight, Tyson Fury announced that he will be putting $1 million bet on Jake Paul:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-prediction-joshua-paul-35585913
I don't believe he would though, and it's likely just a sh*t talk, as there's some bad blood between him and AJ going on for years.

Eddie Hearn (AJ's manager) confirmed there are talks about making that fight happen, but I find it hard to believe that Paul would really go for it. On the other hand, losing to an active top-heavyweight would bring him no shame, unelss he gets KO'ed in an embarrassing fashion.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Regarding a possible Joshua Vs Paul fight, Tyson Fury announced that he will be putting $1 million bet on Jake Paul:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-prediction-joshua-paul-35585913
I don't believe he would though, and it's likely just a sh*t talk, as there's some bad blood between him and AJ going on for years.

Eddie Hearn (AJ's manager) confirmed there are talks about making that fight happen, but I find it hard to believe that Paul would really go for it. On the other hand, losing to an active top-heavyweight would bring him no shame, unelss he gets KO'ed in an embarrassing fashion.

I don't think that he will feel humble if ever he get KO'ed the way Francis Ngannou was knockout by Anthony Joshua. We will just reason out that he lost to a bigger and heavier puncher and that he has the balls to face a active heavyweight. Although it might contradict and expose himself that he can only beat up wash up former boxers. But if it will make a lot of money for him, then why not? He has no shame as what you have said, and it's all about the money. Although I might prefer to see a match between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in Wembley before any of them announced their retirement.

[bbc.reporter]

And, to nobody's surprise, Tyson Fury has announced his un-retirement:

https://talksport.com/boxing/3400024/tyson-fury-retirement-anthony-joshua-oleksandr-usyk-daniel-dubois/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-boxing-fight-news-35590986

He aims to return next year and allegedly is in talks wih Turki Alalshikh about a 3-fight contract. Obviously he expressed his willingness to fight Usyk for the 3rd time.
He also excluded fights with Kabayel or Parker, with whom he previously trained and said they are like brothers to him.

Yes, this is not very much shocking anymore. @hilariousetc has speculated already since the beginning of the month that he will unretire and fight Usyk for the 3rd time. He has created a thread for this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5548722.0

However, does everyone think this 3rd fight will be very attractive for the fans? We have seen already from 2 fights that Usyk is a much better boxer than Fury.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

[btc_angela]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

I don't think that Casimero has a shot on Inoue, even though as boxing fans we have been asking this for years now. It's good that he has found a solid manager in Kameda promotions as if I'm not mistaken, it is one of the biggest Japanese promoter not just in their country but in the world as well.

That's what Casimero is good at doing, taunts his opponent to get a fight or do the trash talking. It only works when you are a champion. But right now, he has nothing to offer, he has no belt. For a Nery fight, this has been brewing for years if I remember, when Casimero was still in the bantamweight and he said that when he goes up as super bantamweight, he wants to get Nery. I think this is the second best option for him right now. But we don't know if Nery is willing to fight unless he was offered a good money.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

The reputation of the Kameda family isn’t the best. Casimero would be better off with the support of a major promoter, but there did not seem to be much interest in signing him if it took 10 months to find a new promoter. Against Nery he would likely be an underdog, but it might be the best option he has right now to become a relevant name again.

[Yaunfitda]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

The reputation of the Kameda family isn’t the best. Casimero would be better off with the support of a major promoter, but there did not seem to be much interest in signing him if it took 10 months to find a new promoter. Against Nery he would likely be an underdog, but it might be the best option he has right now to become a relevant name again.

Probably he was blacklisted by most promoter though, after that divorce with MP. And most likely it was heard amongst the boxing world that's why he can't get a decent promoter and make his fight in the US for exposure. In his last fight he won via knockout if I'm not mistaken, but that was it, he was not able to make the weight and so his problem continues as it's obvious that he didn't have the discipline. Yeah, I do agree, a fight with Nery will be good for him. At least Luis will be one name that might be good to be added in his resume as his last couple of fights are all unknown boxers. As for Inoue fight? I don't see it in the future. Inoue has move on with that idea as he has face a lot of great fighters already and it was noted that he will be moving to the next weight class.

[bbc.reporter]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

Are there promoters from his own country that can help him get more fights that will bring him closer to a championship fight to Inoue? I reckon there is a boxer who can help him get more and better exposure. This is Pacman. Why does he not help John Riel Casimero or what does Casimero not ask for help from Pacman. I am quite certain it will only be a few messages and calls from Pacman to bring Casimero on the negotiation table with some managers or promoters.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I read that John Riel Casimero has a new manager as he signs with Kameda promotions. And it's obvious that it is another Japanese boxing promoter so the possibility to fight Inoue is still there.

https://www.powcast.net/2025/07/when-love-and-hate-collide-two-of.html

Although I've seen that he is taunting Kenneth Llover, not sure if he will be given a chance to fight him.

Even the name of Luis Nery is also been thrown in the mix. But let's see what fight he will have under the new management.

Are there promoters from his own country that can help him get more fights that will bring him closer to a championship fight to Inoue? I reckon there is a boxer who can help him get more and better exposure. This is Pacman. Why does he not help John Riel Casimero or what does Casimero not ask for help from Pacman. I am quite certain it will only be a few messages and calls from Pacman to bring Casimero on the negotiation table with some managers or promoters.

It's only Manny Pacquaio (MP) who has promoted Casimero before and other Filipino boxers. Unfortunately, he had a falling out with Sean Gibbons, the head of MP promotions. They have a public break out although I think Casimero was given the chance to apologize and they will get him back again.

But with all his pride, Casimero doesn't want to do that and so after that, his career didn't move on as what he expected. Although the blame is on him when he was caught in a sauna trying to lose that extra pounds in the UK and that is the beginning of his career going down in the pipe.

[bbc.reporter]

@cryptomaniac_xxx. It appears that John Riel has wasted his reputation and his name. I reckon that this man will become one of these boxers with stories who became poor after retirement. Some of them became alcoholics, drug addicts and also some have become criminals.

He should work under Pacman and become his bodyguard hehehehe or a trainer for younger boxers. Does Pacman have a stable of young boxers in the Philippines?