[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi

[babygun]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

I also read the news and lets hope that he still wants to defend his title even if his opponent is not Firouzja. I can understand Carlsen, as you say, a preparation for the WC title is very demanding and time consuming but it would be a pity if he doesn't participate. Also for his opponents it would be bad news as you always want to win against the best.

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[Lucasgabd]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

I also read the news and lets hope that he still wants to defend his title even if his opponent is not Firouzja. I can understand Carlsen, as you say, a preparation for the WC title is very demanding and time consuming but it would be a pity if he doesn't participate. Also for his opponents it would be bad news as you always want to win against the best.

yes, agree with babygun here
I haven't read these news yet, but would be nice for his opponent to have a chance against the best
though we don't know their personal goals and life besides career too, maybe he wants to pursue other things

[alegotardo]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

It takes a lot of nerds to create certain snags and disagreements like that.
I like chess a lot, but for me it was never more than a hoobie and honestly I can't understand what would make a high level athlete like that not to win a world tournament because he doesn't agree that his opponent is any other.
Have you ever thought if something similar happened at the FIFA World Cup? It would be completely insane!

[qwertyup23]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

It takes a lot of nerds to create certain snags and disagreements like that.
I like chess a lot, but for me it was never more than a hoobie and honestly I can't understand what would make a high level athlete like that not to win a world tournament because he doesn't agree that his opponent is any other.
Have you ever thought if something similar happened at the FIFA World Cup? It would be completely insane!

I somehow agree with your post but I think we have to consider the amount of preparation that these players go through every time they participate in the WC championship. As Magnus had mentioned, it took him months and months of intense focus and preparation but he feels like he does not have to prove anything to anyone in classical format.

Though Carlsen mentioned that he was looking forward for the blitz and rapid championship with motivates him further. In addition, he also did mention that his next goal would be to break the 2900 rating barrier.

[aoluain]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

I also read the news and lets hope that he still wants to defend his title even if his opponent is not Firouzja. I can understand Carlsen, as you say, a preparation for the WC title is very demanding and time consuming but it would be a pity if he doesn't participate. Also for his opponents it would be bad news as you always want to win against the best.

yes, agree with babygun here
I haven't read these news yet, but would be nice for his opponent to have a chance against the best
though we don't know their personal goals and life besides career too, maybe he wants to pursue other things

Yes I agree too, it is always exciting to see the top  players play each other, especially
numbers 1 and 2, but it doesnt always work out like that and it is not a guarantee
that it would produce the best matches, and this is true for all sports really.

Does Carlsen mean he wants to play Firouzja at some stage in the tournament
or in the final? surely he cannot make demands like that?

[Lucasgabd]

Did you guys learn about the recent news on Magnus, announcing that he would not participate in the next WC championship if his opponent is not Firouzja? What are your thoughts on his statement about it?

In my opinion, the preparation of the WC title is too demanding especially that it takes around months of preparation and focus needed. Maybe Carlsen does not have to prove anything as he is considered the best player in today's generation.

It takes a lot of nerds to create certain snags and disagreements like that.
I like chess a lot, but for me it was never more than a hoobie and honestly I can't understand what would make a high level athlete like that not to win a world tournament because he doesn't agree that his opponent is any other.
Have you ever thought if something similar happened at the FIFA World Cup? It would be completely insane!

you are right,but I'd compare it with sports with one athlete maybe like tennis instead of team sports, because it's easier to know the opinions of 1 person than team ones, I wouldn't see so many situations happening like that with big teams, makes sense?

[qwertyup23]

Yes I agree too, it is always exciting to see the top  players play each other, especially
numbers 1 and 2, but it doesnt always work out like that and it is not a guarantee
that it would produce the best matches, and this is true for all sports really.

Does Carlsen mean he wants to play Firouzja at some stage in the tournament
or in the final? surely he cannot make demands like that?

Carlsen wanted to play against Firouzja in the next WC classical championship match since he sees the potential of him being the next world champion. If you would see the games that Alireza played, he performed exceptionally well especially that he became the youngest player to break the 2800 rating.

Of course, Carlsen CANNOT make any demands like that but he certainly may inspire Alireza to perform better so that the latter could participate in the next candidates next year. Like what Magnus mentioned, he is undoubtedly looking forward to play against him.

[ajochems]

6 days left before the start of the championship battle between the reigning champions Magnus Carlsen and the winner of the Candidates Tournament Ian Nepomniachtchi.
There is a rather long distance ahead - at least 14 matches, if they do not reveal the winners, then a tie-break will take place (the previous time Magnus defended his title in a tie-break, since all the classic 12 matches ended in a draw).
Carlsen looks like the most obvious favorite, and the odds of his victory (in classic games, excluding the tie-break) look abnormally profitable: 1.9 Nepomniachtchi odds 3.3 and draw odds 4.0
Will anyone be placing bets on this event?

Chess is wonderful gave with huge tactics. The person who doing the first mistake will be loser at the end. Once the opponent use the wrong move correctly.With this the person who taken the next person queen will be the winner for 90%. This two players game was unique and watched by all chess lovers.Even I was addicted to chess and don't miss those people matches at anycost. You will win, if you keep on learning by playing chess.

[Lucasgabd]

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I remember a friend telling me that usually in basic games the one who makes less mistakes will win
but when you get to more advanced level there are strategies and tatics to develop, so it's not only about avoiding mistakes but also about having a good strategy

I agree that chess is a fascinating and challenging game

[Boristhecat]

I think these words of Magnus about the next world championship and Firouja are still a joke. Magnus has always behaved as adequately as possible and it is difficult to expect that he will insist on such an absurdity. But even for this joke, Magnus received a lot of criticism from the entire chess community (and I must admit it was fair).
The only thing that worries me about the next world championship is that no one wants (at least I don't see any serious movement in this direction) to change the tournament formula. The format when the reigning champion remains above the fight and waits for a single contender has long outlived its usefulness.

[Lucasgabd]

I think these words of Magnus about the next world championship and Firouja are still a joke. Magnus has always behaved as adequately as possible and it is difficult to expect that he will insist on such an absurdity. But even for this joke, Magnus received a lot of criticism from the entire chess community (and I must admit it was fair).
The only thing that worries me about the next world championship is that no one wants (at least I don't see any serious movement in this direction) to change the tournament formula. The format when the reigning champion remains above the fight and waits for a single contender has long outlived its usefulness.

which way you think it would be better?
champion competing from the beginning so we'd have the possibility to see totally new players on the finals, past champion wouldn't have a guaranteed spot? (I'm not fully sure on how it works nowadays, just had an idea from your comment)

[Boristhecat]

I think these words of Magnus about the next world championship and Firouja are still a joke. Magnus has always behaved as adequately as possible and it is difficult to expect that he will insist on such an absurdity. But even for this joke, Magnus received a lot of criticism from the entire chess community (and I must admit it was fair).
The only thing that worries me about the next world championship is that no one wants (at least I don't see any serious movement in this direction) to change the tournament formula. The format when the reigning champion remains above the fight and waits for a single contender has long outlived its usefulness.

which way you think it would be better?
champion competing from the beginning so we'd have the possibility to see totally new players on the finals, past champion wouldn't have a guaranteed spot? (I'm not fully sure on how it works nowadays, just had an idea from your comment)

Any system where the reigning champion will not have privileges and where he will start the fight for the crown from the same stage as other contenders. It can be a round robin or cup system, or a round robin with the transition to elimination matches. Any system will be better than the old one, which has already lost its relevance for 50 (or more) years. Imagine that in football, the reigning champion is waiting for his opponent in the final. This is complete nonsense, but in chess it is a reality.

[LUCKMCFLY]

6 days left before the start of the championship battle between the reigning champions Magnus Carlsen and the winner of the Candidates Tournament Ian Nepomniachtchi.
There is a rather long distance ahead - at least 14 matches, if they do not reveal the winners, then a tie-break will take place (the previous time Magnus defended his title in a tie-break, since all the classic 12 matches ended in a draw).
Carlsen looks like the most obvious favorite, and the odds of his victory (in classic games, excluding the tie-break) look abnormally profitable: 1.9 Nepomniachtchi odds 3.3 and draw odds 4.0
Will anyone be placing bets on this event?

Chess is wonderful gave with huge tactics. The person who doing the first mistake will be loser at the end. Once the opponent use the wrong move correctly.With this the person who taken the next person queen will be the winner for 90%. This two players game was unique and watched by all chess lovers.Even I was addicted to chess and don't miss those people matches at anycost. You will win, if you keep on learning by playing chess.

I don't know if the chess21 site still exists, but it was one of the ones I frequented the most when I was in college studying engineering, and one of the things I liked the most was playing soccer, going to play chess and of course going to college. classes, but many times due to chess fever I missed some classes that were not so relevant to the career, it is that I am really passionate about chess, and even so there are moves that these athletes make that I still do not understand, I only understand them when I analyze them many times.

[Lucasgabd]

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Any system where the reigning champion will not have privileges and where he will start the fight for the crown from the same stage as other contenders. It can be a round robin or cup system, or a round robin with the transition to elimination matches. Any system will be better than the old one, which has already lost its relevance for 50 (or more) years. Imagine that in football, the reigning champion is waiting for his opponent in the final. This is complete nonsense, but in chess it is a reality.

makes sense and I agree with you
only thing is that I dont think it's valid to compare chess with team sports like football since it's really different realities
better to compare it with solo games like golf or tennis, but even then there are differences too

[Shamm]

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Any system where the reigning champion will not have privileges and where he will start the fight for the crown from the same stage as other contenders. It can be a round robin or cup system, or a round robin with the transition to elimination matches. Any system will be better than the old one, which has already lost its relevance for 50 (or more) years. Imagine that in football, the reigning champion is waiting for his opponent in the final. This is complete nonsense, but in chess it is a reality.

makes sense and I agree with you
only thing is that I dont think it's valid to compare chess with team sports like football since it's really different realities
better to compare it with solo games like golf or tennis, but even then there are differences too

Chess is not just easy game you need to practice a long time to be a    chess player cause if you play this game you need to think higher how  you can defense and offense some in other games but you can not compare the skills one to a mind one football, basketball, softballs these are the example of physical games but chess is different from them your mind was your best partners if you play chess game.

[South Park]

Yes I agree too, it is always exciting to see the top  players play each other, especially
numbers 1 and 2, but it doesnt always work out like that and it is not a guarantee
that it would produce the best matches, and this is true for all sports really.

Does Carlsen mean he wants to play Firouzja at some stage in the tournament
or in the final? surely he cannot make demands like that?

Carlsen wanted to play against Firouzja in the next WC classical championship match since he sees the potential of him being the next world champion. If you would see the games that Alireza played, he performed exceptionally well especially that he became the youngest player to break the 2800 rating.

Of course, Carlsen CANNOT make any demands like that but he certainly may inspire Alireza to perform better so that the latter could participate in the next candidates next year. Like what Magnus mentioned, he is undoubtedly looking forward to play against him.

It may seem odd to some people that Carlsen is acting like this, however it is obvious you do not get to be so good at anything without really caring about it, Carlsen probably wants to compete against the very best at the biggest stage, and it is not like he does not have the credentials to make this kind of demand, after all he defended his world championship with ease and most likely he wants a challenge, and Carlsen thinks that Firouzja is the one that has the best chance to defeat him and to offer the most exciting match among all the other candidates.

[paxmao]

I think that the odds favour Carlsen, but not as much as to give the advantage that some of the bookies are giving. Nepomniachtchi (heck... let's call him Nepo) is particularly good at beating Carlsen, while only being the number 4 officially, he is the one that can actually cause trouble to the all powerful guy Magnus (has anyone noticed that the name means "overly great" in Latin. Well, the show seems to be over now with so much advantage from Magnus, but that is perhaps when the best may be more interesting and rewarding.

[famososMuertos]

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Any system where the reigning champion will not have privileges and where he will start the fight for the crown from the same stage as other contenders. It can be a round robin or cup system, or a round robin with the transition to elimination matches. Any system will be better than the old one, which has already lost its relevance for 50 (or more) years. Imagine that in football, the reigning champion is waiting for his opponent in the final. This is complete nonsense, but in chess it is a reality.

makes sense and I agree with you
only thing is that I dont think it's valid to compare chess with team sports like football since it's really different realities
better to compare it with solo games like golf or tennis, but even then there are differences too

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

[Boristhecat]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

This is an ordinary sport in my opinion, but of course there are many curiosities associated with chess - for example, when Carlsen became world champion for the first time, in Norway they could not give him an award as the best athlete of the year, since in Norway chess was not considered a sport at that time and was not particularly at all popular.
I personally knew a chess player (now he is an international grandmaster) - he went to the gym along with fitness fans because he said that in order to sit 10 hours a day at the board, you need a lot of energy.

[coco23]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

I guess the same can be applied to many e-sport games. Chess is probably the most similar to e-sports of the "traditional" sports