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February 01, 2022, 05:23:11 AM
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Time is a huge factor when taking decisions not only in chess but in almost any other activity, this means that a move that in a traditional game a player will not make because eventually his opponent will find the best line and eventually beat them can become a very strong move with the time limitations of a blitz tournament, so while in a regular game your overall ability to play is the most important factor, when it comers to blitz games your ability to trap your opponent and be quick on your feet is more important.

yes, that is really interesting
I have a much better rating on slow games than blitz ones

the strategies change a lot too
blitz games sometimes ends on who are faster to avoid the clock to end, so it's not a lot about technique 100% of the times, sometimes it's fast-clicking and reaction
I remember that in a book I read long time ago the author describes how in a regular game in which one of the players was running out of time his opponent began moving his king around and some of the movements were so bad that he should have lost his queen, however his opponent was so mesmerized by what he was seeing that soon he lost the game by running out of time, and this is something that is really effective in blitz games, if you can do a movement that does not weaken your position but that can confuse your opponent, that is worth gold as they will take a lot of seconds trying to figure out what are you doing while slowly they run out of time, which shows that in blitz games not only you are playing against the player in front of you but against the clock.
I think that usually happens to many players when they put games to 3 minutes, at first they are very concentrated, then there comes a time where if there is a period of deconcentration bad movements begin to happen and they start playing randomly, I think that this is caused by desperation, is very common, especially when there are spectators who are following everything and analyze it with more time than whoever is sitting there. In tournaments I have seen when players don't follow their plan, but they concentrate so that their time doesn't run out and for that reason they lose.

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February 01, 2022, 06:48:25 PM
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yes, the faster the clock the more it'll happen
have you tried playing this 1 minute games on lichess?
almost impossible to predict all possible scenarios so fast.

Lichess has some good analysis tools too, quite useful for studying openings and game development

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February 03, 2022, 07:59:38 PM
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yes, the faster the clock the more it'll happen
have you tried playing this 1 minute games on lichess?
almost impossible to predict all possible scenarios so fast.

Lichess has some good analysis tools too, quite useful for studying openings and game development
I have tried to pay games that fast, not on lichess but against computer software, and I can say that it is a nightmare, even if play at a regular speed there are positions so complex that it is very difficult to see the right movement, and when you have such a time restriction you are playing basically out of instinct, as soon as your opponent makes its movement you need to be prepared to do yours otherwise time will pass and soon enough you will find yourself with even more problems to manage the time you have left.
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February 04, 2022, 12:03:39 PM
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I have tried to pay games that fast, not on lichess but against computer software, and I can say that it is a nightmare, even if play at a regular speed there are positions so complex that it is very difficult to see the right movement, and when you have such a time restriction you are playing basically out of instinct, as soon as your opponent makes its movement you need to be prepared to do yours otherwise time will pass and soon enough you will find yourself with even more problems to manage the time you have left.

If you do not have a lot of gaming experience, then you should not play on such a short timer - there is no need to think, you need to make moves based on experience. And if you have seen games on the Internet, many players, even having a completely lost position, win the game because they make very fast moves (or pre-moves) and the opponent simply does not have time to checkmate them.
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February 04, 2022, 01:56:03 PM
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yes, the faster the clock the more it'll happen
have you tried playing this 1 minute games on lichess?
almost impossible to predict all possible scenarios so fast.

Lichess has some good analysis tools too, quite useful for studying openings and game development
I have tried to pay games that fast, not on lichess but against computer software, and I can say that it is a nightmare, even if play at a regular speed there are positions so complex that it is very difficult to see the right movement, and when you have such a time restriction you are playing basically out of instinct, as soon as your opponent makes its movement you need to be prepared to do yours otherwise time will pass and soon enough you will find yourself with even more problems to manage the time you have left.

what helped me was reducing the time slowly over many plays...
now I can play 5 minutes games without stressing so much, still better to play slower ones but I find them enjoyable, lower than that is still hard and I find it the faster the game the more addicting it gets too

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yes, the faster the clock the more it'll happen
have you tried playing this 1 minute games on lichess?
almost impossible to predict all possible scenarios so fast.

Lichess has some good analysis tools too, quite useful for studying openings and game development
I have tried to pay games that fast, not on lichess but against computer software, and I can say that it is a nightmare, even if play at a regular speed there are positions so complex that it is very difficult to see the right movement, and when you have such a time restriction you are playing basically out of instinct, as soon as your opponent makes its movement you need to be prepared to do yours otherwise time will pass and soon enough you will find yourself with even more problems to manage the time you have left.

what helped me was reducing the time slowly over many plays...
now I can play 5 minutes games without stressing so much, still better to play slower ones but I find them enjoyable, lower than that is still hard and I find it the faster the game the more addicting it gets too

Lichess is a platform where it is a game of memorization and familiarization of opening repertoires and traps. Mostly, people who participate in lichess are skilled in knowing and recognizing patterns from the games they have played. That is why whenever I participate in lichess tournaments, I always blunder my pieces due to the time format of playing only under a minute.

Compared to players like Magnus, Alireza, and Andrew Tang where they can instantly play at any time format due to their skill, us beginners and normal human beings will most likely blunder every single time.

By the way just a recommendation, will it be possible if we could create like a "Chess Discussion Board" where we put all the relevant matches that were played instead of plaguing this board.
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February 07, 2022, 04:20:51 PM
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the idea for a new topic about chess is good @qwertyup23 but since it's so niche and not a lot of people post about it it's probably better to concentrate discussion here

but I don't think it's such a big problem to create a different topic for chess discussion only instead of using this one too
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February 09, 2022, 10:27:17 PM
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the idea for a new topic about chess is good @qwertyup23 but since it's so niche and not a lot of people post about it it's probably better to concentrate discussion here

but I don't think it's such a big problem to create a different topic for chess discussion only instead of using this one too
many possibilities

Yes, if someone creates a new topic, then no problem (most importantly, do not forget to invite me there hehe). But for convenience (and due to the fact that the audience for discussing chess is rather narrow) I can simply rename this topic.
By the way, I now tried to edit the first post of the topic and could not find the "add poll" option. Probably still worth creating a new topic, since this option is in demand and it is interesting to conduct different polls from time to time. What do you think?
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Carlsen proves unbeatable. This time he gave Nepomniachi quite a beating. You can also ask yourself whether this formula is still so fair. The winner only needs to play a final, while other players have to qualify through a tournament and beat multiple opponents. The setup should be about the same as in other sports like tennis. A tournament, and the best one to win is a champion.

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the idea for a new topic about chess is good @qwertyup23 but since it's so niche and not a lot of people post about it it's probably better to concentrate discussion here

but I don't think it's such a big problem to create a different topic for chess discussion only instead of using this one too
many possibilities

Yes, if someone creates a new topic, then no problem (most importantly, do not forget to invite me there hehe). But for convenience (and due to the fact that the audience for discussing chess is rather narrow) I can simply rename this topic.
By the way, I now tried to edit the first post of the topic and could not find the "add poll" option. Probably still worth creating a new topic, since this option is in demand and it is interesting to conduct different polls from time to time. What do you think?

yes, unfortunately you can't add a poll to an existing topic, you'd have to create a new one for that.
I think it's worth to create a new topic too, who'll pull the trigger and make it happen?

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February 11, 2022, 07:34:27 PM
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the idea for a new topic about chess is good @qwertyup23 but since it's so niche and not a lot of people post about it it's probably better to concentrate discussion here

but I don't think it's such a big problem to create a different topic for chess discussion only instead of using this one too
many possibilities

Yes, if someone creates a new topic, then no problem (most importantly, do not forget to invite me there hehe). But for convenience (and due to the fact that the audience for discussing chess is rather narrow) I can simply rename this topic.
By the way, I now tried to edit the first post of the topic and could not find the "add poll" option. Probably still worth creating a new topic, since this option is in demand and it is interesting to conduct different polls from time to time. What do you think?
A general thread regarding all things chess would be fine, we have one of those with the NFL and the few members that care about it keep it alive and the discussion there is quite nice, from time to time someone else creates a thread, like right now that there are a few due to the Super Bowl being so close, but they fail to gain any traction, so I think that would be the best choice due to the size of the bitcointalk community that care about it being so low.
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A general thread regarding all things chess would be fine, we have one of those with the NFL and the few members that care about it keep it alive and the discussion there is quite nice, from time to time someone else creates a thread, like right now that there are a few due to the Super Bowl being so close, but they fail to gain any traction, so I think that would be the best choice due to the size of the bitcointalk community that care about it being so low.
Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

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Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

Not only for Chess for every sports there must a general thread where every event about that sports is discussed. For instance, there is general thread about cricket T20 format. Now everything related to T20 whether its World Cup or some  other tournament it's discussed there.
This Chess match between Carlsen and Nepomniachtchi was played back 2 months ago. Still we have an active thread about that match.
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Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

Not only for Chess for every sports there must a general thread where every event about that sports is discussed. For instance, there is general thread about cricket T20 format. Now everything related to T20 whether its World Cup or some  other tournament it's discussed there.
This Chess match between Carlsen and Nepomniachtchi was played back 2 months ago.
Yes, it's given that for the other sports, there's a thread but there's no general thread for Chess and it's just this WC that's made last year. I think the interest for Chess is increasing on the forum and whoever is going to maintain the discussion for it

Still we have an active thread about that match.
And that's what everyone is talking about. Having a general thread for Chess related discussion but I think there are only a few bookies that includes it in the book.

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Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

Not only for Chess for every sports there must a general thread where every event about that sports is discussed. For instance, there is general thread about cricket T20 format. Now everything related to T20 whether its World Cup or some  other tournament it's discussed there.
This Chess match between Carlsen and Nepomniachtchi was played back 2 months ago. Still we have an active thread about that match.

I do agree with everything you guys mentioned. With the increasing popularity of Chess compared before, it is starting to evolve from a niche sports to something that is widely recognized. I think this is due to the fact that after the release of Queen's Gambit on Netflix, it sparked the curiosity of many to actually try chess for the first time. While not everyone can be good at chess, it certainly is enjoyable especially when you beat your opponent.

But to be honest, I do think that creating a separate board for Chess would be beneficial in the long-run.
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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

Good to learn chess techniques it is always good to have a board and practice the moves of some masters, but for everything to be better understood, it is preferable to learn the basics, perhaps some techniques used by experts, some defenses, with the knights , the exits, with pawns, with knights, what are the vulnerabilities, what is the advantage of going out in the form of an attack or establishing a solid defense, these types of techniques help to better understand, when we start to see it is better to make this start basic than trying to understand what they do in tournaments, because in tournaments plays are made at a very high level and sometimes they are difficult to understand.

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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.
Long time ago there was a software called ChessMentor, as its name implied it was not really a software in which you played against the computer like so many other commercial chess software but instead it gave you lessons about how to play chess and quite honestly I found it to be great, I heard that it was eventually integrated into the chess.com website but I do not know if it is free or if you need to pay a subscription, however if it is still available and free you should take a look at it as it was really good.
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History created by the young 16 year old R Praggnanandhaa defeating the world number one chess player Magnus Carlsen 39 moves on the Airthings Masters online rapid chess tournament. Praggnanandhaa have mentioned “Beating him once is my biggest dream,” and now this have been achieved so earlier. Now he have become the third Indian, after Viswanathan Anand and P Harikrishna to beat Magnus Carlsen. This shows his ability to the world and the emergence of a new champion from India.

In the same event Praggnanandhaa have lost all the previous seven games and for Carlsen it is the first defeat in the Airthings Masters online rapid chess tournament.

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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.
Long time ago there was a software called ChessMentor, as its name implied it was not really a software in which you played against the computer like so many other commercial chess software but instead it gave you lessons about how to play chess and quite honestly I found it to be great, I heard that it was eventually integrated into the chess.com website but I do not know if it is free or if you need to pay a subscription, however if it is still available and free you should take a look at it as it was really good.

nice! I think I even heard about ChesMentor before on some youtube channel, maybe
sound cool

I'm not that big into chess, just an occasional player doing it for fun... the AI analysis on lichess are already enough for me
but if it changes in the future and I decide to study it in a deeper way I'll look into it.

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