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Wow, I'm sad Corinthians lost the 1st place ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) But to be honest I don't think Corinthians have a good team to fight for first place, maybe on the top 5 this year Even with Vitor Pereira, the team is not constant, to be a champion in Brasileiro you need more, and the players are old ones who already played in the team before, I don't think the team need these players, maybe some players from the base, with 20 years, and 2 or 3 maximum with more than 30y Just my opinion ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Guys, Libertadores have ended their group round and now it's time to have great matches, I did a thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397192.0Let's discuss there about, with a lot of brazilian teams, I'm sure you guys will watch the matches Only Bragantino and America did not classify, but the other 6 teams are classified (Corinthians, Flamengo, Palmeiras, Athletico PR, Atletico MG and even Fortaleza, yes Fortaleza the last team on Brasileiro) And for me it's sad again, Corinthians will face Boca Juniors next phase hahaha ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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For me, Palmeiras is one of the most valuable teams in Brazil, I have seen that team play and they are really very good, the Brazilians seem to never get tired of playing, they have a lot of resistance, apart from the technique they have is very infallible, however reviewing the table I see that Corinthians is still the leader of the classification, in the Copa Libertadores one of the protagonists has always been Santos, and I see that this league is very close for now, really the level of the Brazilians is very high, it is very exciting.
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For me, Palmeiras is one of the most valuable teams in Brazil, I have seen that team play and they are really very good, the Brazilians seem to never get tired of playing, they have a lot of resistance, apart from the technique they have is very infallible, however reviewing the table I see that Corinthians is still the leader of the classification, in the Copa Libertadores one of the protagonists has always been Santos, and I see that this league is very close for now, really the level of the Brazilians is very high, it is very exciting. I would say that Brazilian teams go through many phases.... In a given year a team can win the main championship, but in the next year it can be relegated to a lower category... and its don't uncommon to happen. In general, the main titles are still concentrated in less than 10 Brazilian teams, but I also see that the technical quality of smaller teams is rising a lot each year.
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For me, Palmeiras is one of the most valuable teams in Brazil, I have seen that team play and they are really very good, the Brazilians seem to never get tired of playing, they have a lot of resistance, apart from the technique they have is very infallible, however reviewing the table I see that Corinthians is still the leader of the classification, in the Copa Libertadores one of the protagonists has always been Santos, and I see that this league is very close for now, really the level of the Brazilians is very high, it is very exciting.
Although we are in the initial stages of the Serie A in Brazil I think that Corinthians is the team which has shown the better football compared to all other teams,maybe more pragmatic would be the best definition but still they deserve to be in that first place.As for Palmeiras like most of the teams in the Serie A in Brazil play beautiful football,that is just in their DNA you cannot do anything against it,they like to play open football and score beautiful goals which I think is the main characteristic that makes this league as beautiful as it is. Once even other countries in Latin America like Argentina used to play this kind of beautiful football but since quite some years now they play football by doing calculations rather than playing it openly,they play defensively and it is not beautiful to watch,that is why I think the Serie A is the most beautiful league of all Latin America.
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June 04, 2022, 11:59:01 AM |
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Atletico Paranaense vs Santos and seems home team want to continue positive results from their 2 latest matches against Cuiaba and Avai because Paranaense can win 2 times in a row from these teams but according to head to head records seems Santos become a team that hard to beated for them but to get 3 points from Santos it is possible to do so especially Santos is not in the good shape after only get once won from 5 matches and seems Atletico Paranaense win as option bet good to be considered
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June 04, 2022, 04:54:15 PM |
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Atletico Paranaense vs Santos and seems home team want to continue positive results from their 2 latest matches against Cuiaba and Avai because Paranaense can win 2 times in a row from these teams but according to head to head records seems Santos become a team that hard to beated for them but to get 3 points from Santos it is possible to do so especially Santos is not in the good shape after only get once won from 5 matches and seems Atletico Paranaense win as option bet good to be considered
I really think that it will be a win for Atletico PR. They are also in better form compared to Santos. I know that Santos is not a very easy team to beat but in this match up I am going to favor Atletico PR right now. Don't think this match is going to end in a draw. But I will not also rule that out, to be honest. Because I believe Santos may just play this match really defensively.
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I would say that Brazilian teams go through many phases.... In a given year a team can win the main championship, but in the next year it can be relegated to a lower category... and its don't uncommon to happen.
In general, the main titles are still concentrated in less than 10 Brazilian teams, but I also see that the technical quality of smaller teams is rising a lot each year.
Great point, there are lot of cases where teams won championship and next year the team was demoted, in my opinion most teams are affected because of players goes to europe If you see a good team, won the championship, at least 2 of main players will play abroad, and it's almost impossible to keep him here, most of them have a dream to play on a big team, and main reason is money, it's Euro against our money. I also saw some teams playing good on Libertadores, but almost being demoted in brasileiro, they need to focus on only 1, contrary os most european teams who have excelent players to substitute. Although we are in the initial stages of the Serie A in Brazil I think that Corinthians is the team which has shown the better football compared to all other teams,maybe more pragmatic would be the best definition but still they deserve to be in that first place.
My team of heart is Corinthians, I watched almost all matches, and our team have many players with more than 30 years, it's becoming difficulty to play against teams who have more energy to play entire match in a good level, take a look here: Cássio (34 years) Fagner (32 years) João Victor (23 years) Gil (34 years) Fábio Santos (36 years) Du Queiroz (22 years) Willian (33 years) Paulinho (33 years) Renato Augusto (34 years) Giuliano (31 years) Róger Guedes (25 years) See? They all have experience, Willian, Paulinho, Renato Augusto, they all played in europe, but it's hard to play entire match 100%
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Has anyone else followed the games of this round?
The game between "Bragantino x Internacional" has just started at 7pm Tomorrow we will have at 8pm the match between "Botafogo x Goias"
by the way... I confess that I was surprised by the defeat of Flamengo against Fortaleza and Fluminense against Juventude!
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June 05, 2022, 11:53:13 PM |
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Has anyone else followed the games of this round?
The game between "Bragantino x Internacional" has just started at 7pm Tomorrow we will have at 8pm the match between "Botafogo x Goias"
by the way... I confess that I was surprised by the defeat of Flamengo against Fortaleza and Fluminense against Juventude!
I followed the games of this 9th round ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'm surprised, Corinthians is first again with 18 points, even with the minimum victory 1x0 against Atletico GO, this is good enough to celebrate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) This is the current table: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FHFfL3dX%2Fbrasileiro.png&t=665&c=6F80lzkImC_PVw) And the biggest surprise of this round was Flamengo losing the match to Fortaleza, the last of the championship hahaha, this is Brasileiro guys, the last one beating one of the favorites Palmeiras, São Paulo, Atlético MG and Santos didn't win too, only draws, but this was the best scenario for Corinthians ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If someone bet in favor of Fortaleza (I doubt it), this one gained a lot of money ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 06, 2022, 07:40:38 PM |
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Thanks for this image, I believe the visualization is now clearer!! Yes, it doesn't matter... if the team won by 1 goal difference or 10 goals difference, it doesn't matter, the winning team will get the 3 points in the table lol ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) But anyway... we will have at 8 pm the game between Botafogo x Goias (I believe Botafogo will win, it's just a presumption of my part ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ) Let's see how this game will be!
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Has anyone else followed the games of this round?
The game between "Bragantino x Internacional" has just started at 7pm Tomorrow we will have at 8pm the match between "Botafogo x Goias"
by the way... I confess that I was surprised by the defeat of Flamengo against Fortaleza and Fluminense against Juventude!
I followed the games of this 9th round ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'm surprised, Corinthians is first again with 18 points, even with the minimum victory 1x0 against Atletico GO, this is good enough to celebrate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) This is the current table: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FHFfL3dX%2Fbrasileiro.png&t=665&c=6F80lzkImC_PVw) And the biggest surprise of this round was Flamengo losing the match to Fortaleza, the last of the championship hahaha, this is Brasileiro guys, the last one beating one of the favorites Palmeiras, São Paulo, Atlético MG and Santos didn't win too, only draws, but this was the best scenario for Corinthians ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If someone bet in favor of Fortaleza (I doubt it), this one gained a lot of money ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Unfortuntly i did not bet on flamengo since no one expected that outcome but i did expect corinthians to win since they played against a team with some bad results lately not to mention that corinthians are unbeatable lately plus the odds were really good, as for palmeiras and atletico mg i expected it would be a tough game and it ended with a draw althought palmeiras was a bit better, they both still are only two points away from the first position so this season seem to be a competitive one.
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for some games like when it's a favorite team with a really bad team it may be much easier to predict the results than with these classics like fla x flu or palmeiras x corinthians. of course odds vary because of that too
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But anyway... we will have at 8 pm the game between Botafogo x Goias (I believe Botafogo will win, it's just a presumption of my part ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ) Let's see how this game will be! And Goias won 2 x 0, leaving the demoting zone. for some games like when it's a favorite team with a really bad team it may be much easier to predict the results than with these classics like fla x flu or palmeiras x corinthians. of course odds vary because of that too
I see the classic matches only a gamble to have fun, not a match to calculate the odds and bet heavily, because there's many many variables only we brazilians know hehe, a classic Corinthians vs Palmeiras is a fire match, with even some fight, literally fight ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Unfortuntly i did not bet on flamengo since no one expected that outcome but i did expect corinthians to win since they played against a team with some bad results lately not to mention that corinthians are unbeatable lately plus the odds were really good, as for palmeiras and atletico mg i expected it would be a tough game and it ended with a draw althought palmeiras was a bit better, they both still are only two points away from the first position so this season seem to be a competitive one.
It's competive enough to not have any clue right now who's stronger, just 2 points separating the 1st place I found a good match to bet (at least for me, not financial advise): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FRhTmq2B%2Fbetbet.png&t=665&c=3cUAlWfyQDeCFg) I'll bet on Goias, and these are the reasons why: 1 - Goias got a draw against Palmeiras, Atlético MG and Bragantino, 3 strong teams, with 2 favorites to win the championship 2 - Goias won against Santos and Botafogo, 2 another strong teams, so we can conclude Goias are playing in a good level, and the matches until now are hard, against stronger teams 3 - Now Goias will face Fortaleza, the last team on table, and the focus is Libertadores right now So I think 6.25 is an incredible odd to take the risk
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for some games like when it's a favorite team with a really bad team it may be much easier to predict the results than with these classics like fla x flu or palmeiras x corinthians. of course odds vary because of that too
I see the classic matches only a gamble to have fun, not a match to calculate the odds and bet heavily, because there's many many variables only we brazilians know hehe, a classic Corinthians vs Palmeiras is a fire match, with even some fight, literally fight ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) and some variables that not even Brazilians know hahaah I mean, there's a lot of randomness on the process, quite hard to predict correctly consistently without a crystal ball, if you ask me. what do you think?
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and some variables that not even Brazilians know hahaah I mean, there's a lot of randomness on the process, quite hard to predict correctly consistently without a crystal ball, if you ask me.
what do you think?
Sure, it's not a certain thing, even in a matches you are sure, nothing is 100% and there's always a probability. The odds of gambling web sites are the closest we have for a match, the closest math method to predict correctly a game. I don't know if I understand correct your thought, but the randomness you're saying, for me, are some variables like: - Human factor, the player is motivated enough that day? Is he/she feeling good?
- Climate factor, maybe in some hot places younger players will have more stamina to play, or in a rainy day for example
- For brazilian soccer, we have some peculiar things like players simulating foul all the time, we have rivalry that I doubt other place has, like Corinthians vs Palmeiras again, a player from Corinthians can't wear anything green, otherwise the fans will complain a lot about that player
- South American have a word that I can't find a good similar in english: "catimba", and we brazilians can do this too, and how can predict these things?
Above I just said some surface stuff, there's much more to dig, if you want to discuss more I'll be happy to know other variables
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Above I just said some surface stuff, there's much more to dig, if you want to discuss more I'll be happy to know other variables Better not even start this discussion, because Brazilian football is very "creative"... whether for good things (like the plays rehearsed with the Brazilian "ginga") as well as other bad and sad things that you rarely see on the world stage. Wel... each country with its particularities. I'm now watching Internacional x Santos.... a very ugly game! and the referee once again gave a show of incompetence: they scored a penalty, let the Santos player hit, score goal, and then VAR cancel the penalty ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I'm now watching Internacional x Santos.... a very ugly game! and the referee once again gave a show of incompetence: they scored a penalty, let the Santos player hit, score goal, and then VAR cancel the penalty ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I was going to comment this in this topic lol Santos and Internacional are one of the best teams in Brazil, but even so, this game that took place yesterday was totally ugly to watch lol Today, we will have another interesting game of big clubs, Palmeiras x Botafogo, I believe it will be a good one to watch! And... in this saturday, there will be a great duel between Flamengo and Internacioal!
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I think Corinthians is demonstrating to be the best team so far in the Serie A of this season.I think it is a big victory against Atletico away from home,in Brazil usually home teams win even against better teams most of the time in the Brazilian Serie A,that is how things are here,the fact that Corinthians won away from home only consolidates them as the main favorites to win the title.You may say it is early for such statement but I think they will manage to win the title this year.
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Palmeiras will fight against Botafogo today that home team have ambition to taken over first position from Corinthians and i think they have good opportunity for it because their opponent Botafogo currently is not in the good shape after 3 consecutive no win moreover from head to head records between them showed Palmeiras the favourite because they can able to win 4 times from 7 matches from Botafogo so in my view this match will belongs to Palmeiras
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and some variables that not even Brazilians know hahaah I mean, there's a lot of randomness on the process, quite hard to predict correctly consistently without a crystal ball, if you ask me.
what do you think?
Sure, it's not a certain thing, even in a matches you are sure, nothing is 100% and there's always a probability. The odds of gambling web sites are the closest we have for a match, the closest math method to predict correctly a game. I don't know if I understand correct your thought, but the randomness you're saying, for me, are some variables like: - Human factor, the player is motivated enough that day? Is he/she feeling good?
- Climate factor, maybe in some hot places younger players will have more stamina to play, or in a rainy day for example
- For brazilian soccer, we have some peculiar things like players simulating foul all the time, we have rivalry that I doubt other place has, like Corinthians vs Palmeiras again, a player from Corinthians can't wear anything green, otherwise the fans will complain a lot about that player
- South American have a word that I can't find a good similar in english: "catimba", and we brazilians can do this too, and how can predict these things?
Above I just said some surface stuff, there's much more to dig, if you want to discuss more I'll be happy to know other variables exactly, this is what I mean lots of things we can't control will affect the game, the mood of the team, climate, if the team is playing "at home" or on the opponent stadium, so forth and so on...
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