Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[BADecker]

Nobody knows the future.

Russia's Factories Are Running at Full Speed – And This Is What They've Received

[hostm]

Russia will end up like Yugoslavia

Russia has become very strong now. I live near a military academy in a large Russian city, and I see young people rushing to class every morning. Thousands of young people. Who will soon become a very big threat to the West. Russia is smaller than NATO, but Russia has better weapons and smarter, and most importantly, more motivated people. Because now all Russians know that Russia didn't attack NATO. NATO attacked Russia. And the Russians now face the task of survival. And that is a very strong motivation. Survive!

[BADecker]

Ukraine is joining Russia to fight Ukraine (at the end of the video).

A Huge WIN_ Thousands of Ukrainian Soldiers joined the Russian Army amid the Imminent FALL of KIEV

[Lucius]

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Russia will end up like Yugoslavia, divided along ethnic religious groups.

Where did you get the idea that some ethnic religious groups lived in Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia consisted of republics completely different from each other that are independent today, each with its own language, tradition and level of development.

What has very great similarities between Yugoslavia and Russia is the way in which first the Serbs, and then the Russians (brothers by blood, faith, and desire to kill innocents) had the idea on which they began their bloody campaigns. Serbs wanted a greater Serbia and claimed they were going to fight against Nazism and fascism in Croatia, later in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Russians are doing the same today in Ukraine.

The methods they use are identical, because all that remains after them is scorched earth, destroyed cities and villages, and tens of thousands of killed civilians. However, the Serbs lost the war when the Croats strengthened their military to the point that they realized they could no longer do anything to them.

A scenario in which Ukraine strengthens militarily so much that it will be able to liberate its occupied territories is very likely, especially if we see how motivated they are about it. All these brainwashed Russians who write nonsense here about Ukraine attacking Russia and the like might get a chance to defend their country on the battlefield, unless they're cowards hiding behind their keyboards.

[montaga]

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Russia will end up like Yugoslavia, divided along ethnic religious groups.

Where did you get the idea that some ethnic religious groups lived in Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia consisted of republics completely different from each other that are independent today, each with its own language, tradition and level of development.

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There is still tension between Kosovo's Albanians and Serbs, Kosovo is 93% Islam
There is still unease in Bosnia and Herzegovina, 51% Islam, 30% Eastern Orthodox and 15% Catholics
As a matter of fact at least in Yugoslavia are all Slavs what is not the case in Russia.
Eastern Republics of Sakha (Yakutia), Buryatia, Tuva, Khaskassia, Altai and other Oblasts are not Slavs and they have more in common with Native Canadians than with Muscovits.

Russia has 21 Republics with own language and tradition plus all the Oblasts and special status City.
Tatarstan, 53.6% Tatars speak Tatar/Russian about half Islam the other Orthodox Christianity
Bashkortostan speak Bashkir and predominant Sunni Hanafi Islam
Dagestan:
30.5% Avars
16.6% Dargins
15.8% Kumyks
13.3% Lezgins
5.2% Laks
4% Tabasarans
3.7% Azerbaijanis
3.3% Russians
3.2% Chechens
1% Rutulians
3.3% other

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[BADecker]

^^^ Whatever the 'nation', you can always find some people who are not in favor of their own government. The point is that all the ethnic groups within Russia get the news from the war. And they realize that Russia is doing what it can to protect them from war-crazed Zelensky, who wants to take over control of everything.

In other words, 'Russian' people in general are siding with the Russian government and Putin, even though they don't like the situation that they are in.

Personally, I believe that for this moment in time, God is in favor of success for the Russian government. While things always change, it's time for the collapse of the Western banking systems, that have used lies and violence to take over the world. We simply don't see it because we are living and are upheld by their favor so that those who are not in their favor are destroyed... like they are trying to destroy Russia. However, this is all far from done.





EDIT: Redacted: "Russia is winning the war and it's not even close" Rick Sanchez on Ukraine's NATO spin machine

[Nmjut]

I am surprised there haven't been any threads opened about this yet.

In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.

The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.

Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.

President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.

Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun

Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine

The Russian invasion in Ukraine is elaborating the ongoing genocide around the world such as the forcible deportation of Ukrainian's children and mass killing of  civilians. The ongoing war of Russia and Ukraine is setting a new example of blocism such as ukraine is supported by the western world through NATO , while the coujtry of Russia is supported by some other emerging super powers such as china. The Russia's sance behind this war is to attain its control on Ukraine because this land purely belongs to them as before USSR disintegration. Similarly, the other major reason behind this conflicf is black sea politics. Russia annexed c rimea in 2014 that gives control to Russia on sevastopol naval base.

[Lucius]

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Russia will end up like Yugoslavia, divided along ethnic religious groups.

Where did you get the idea that some ethnic religious groups lived in Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia consisted of republics completely different from each other that are independent today, each with its own language, tradition and level of development.

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There is still tension between Kosovo's Albanians and Serbs, Kosovo is 93% Islam
There is still unease in Bosnia and Herzegovina, 51% Islam, 30% Eastern Orthodox and 15% Catholics
As a matter of fact at least in Yugoslavia are all Slavs what is not the case in Russia.
Eastern Republics of Sakha (Yakutia), Buryatia, Tuva, Khaskassia, Altai and other Oblasts are not Slavs and they have more in common with Native Canadians than with Muscovits.

Russia has 21 Republics with own language and tradition plus all the Oblasts and special status City.
Tatarstan, 53.6% Tatars speak Tatar/Russian about half Islam the other Orthodox Christianity
Bashkortostan speak Bashkir and predominant Sunni Hanafi Islam
Dagestan:
30.5% Avars
16.6% Dargins
15.8% Kumyks
13.3% Lezgins
5.2% Laks
4% Tabasarans
3.7% Azerbaijanis
3.3% Russians
3.2% Chechens
1% Rutulians
3.3% other

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The Balkans have always been a "powder keg" that can easily be ignited at any moment, and that remains a fact that no one can dispute. It is evident from the past that the peoples of the Balkans strived for the independence of their countries even when various forces pushed them into illogical alliances, and this is not the case with the peoples living inside Russia today.

Whether this is because Moscow has established a system that effectively eliminates any idea of ​​independence or something else is less important - these nations today mostly serve as cannon fodder, while some ordinary Russians pretend that the war does not exist at all. Even today, they call the war a "special military operation", regardless of the fact that their entire economy went in the direction of war, and according to data collected from the Russian media and social networks, over 200 000 Russians died in the invasion of Ukraine.

[montaga]

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that the peoples of the Balkans strived for the independence of their countries even when various forces pushed them into illogical alliances, and this is not the case with the peoples living inside Russia today.

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It most certainly is the case, but reality is this if you landlocked your chances of it happen are next to zero. Technical not landlocked Republic of Sakha but Arktic ocean not of great help, plus small population and most military able men Putler did sent to Ukraine so gone now. Reason Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia ..... manged to get away is that they are not surrounded by Russia. For globalist pure horror if they manage to get away, break free.
Ukraine is the only country in the world that openly supports separatist movements in Russia.
https://freenationsleague.org/en/

The unification of national and regional movements advocating the acquisition of real sovereignty by the peoples and territories of the Russian Federation, the realization of the right to self-determination and the creation of independent democratic states.
Members
Mokshas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokshas
Ingermanland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingria
Kalmykia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmykia
Buryats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buryats
Sakha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic
Erzya https://thevlasta.substack.com/p/reclaiming-an-indigenous-identity
Circassians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassians
Bashkir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkortostan
Tatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars
Chechens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechens
Baltic regionalists

Interview Anna from Ukraine with a Buryatian living in Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH5L5Vpy5uQ

[BADecker]

^^^ Outside of the fact that this kind of thing happens around the world on a regular basis, this is exactly the thing that was happening in the Eastern Ukraine oblasts before the beginning of the war in 2022. Ukraine sent its military to stop the people in those areas from becoming free countries or states, and Russia simply came in to protect those people from the Ukraine military. Then Ukraine turned it into a war by not allowing themselves to be policed.

Will it happen in Russia? Will it happen in the West. In the US, even as much as 35% of the people of Texas want to remove Texas from the US, and let it become its own nation. And since close to 50% of the US military is located in Texas, they could do it if more of the people decided to do it.

Your talk is simply blab that is happening around the world. If the people in Eastern Ukraine had loads of guns, Russia would never have had to step in. And if the people had had gun freedom, they might have repelled the Ukraine military sufficiently that they would not have decided to leave Ukraine.

Now, of course, there are all kinds of other things and reasons why Russia did what it did. Russia always wanted the Black Sea Corridor; it formerly belonged to Russia. So helping Eastern Ukraine peoples might have simply been an excuse for the attack.

Back to the war. Whatever may happen in the future is for the future. Presently Ukraine is being destroyed before the onslaught of Russia (and before the onslaught of the West with all their fancy pro-Ukraine words that are really destroying Ukraine), even if Russia is being hurt a little.

[Branko]

Russia has 21 Republics with own language and tradition plus all the Oblasts and special status City.

That's nothing, USA has more than 50 republics, and lets not start about all the races, religions
and ethnicities there



Broadly, the forces fighting for Russia in Ukraine can be divided into several groups:

Group   Approximate significance

Ethnic Russians   Large majority (probably 80-85%)
Other Russian Federation ethnic groups (Tatars, Bashkirs, Buryats, Tuvans, Yakuts, Chechens, Dagestanis, etc.)   Significant minority (perhaps 10-15%)
Foreign volunteers/contract soldiers   Small (<1–3% overall)

[hostm]

Why does the war in Ukraine continue? Because:

1. NATO doesn't want to leave Ukraine. Therefore, it constantly sponsors Ukraine with money, mercenaries, weapons, intelligence, etc.

2. Russia doesn't want to leave Ukraine because it would completely lose the Black Sea. This is unacceptable for Russia for geopolitical reasons. Russia also has a small military contingent in Transnistria, primarily to guard warehouses containing former Soviet ammunition and weapons.

[BADecker]

Ukraine has hit up to 136 Russian vessels in the Azov Sea. At the same time Russia has continued its devastating strikes against Odessa and other places in Ukraine. Of course, we all know that if it is Ukraine striking anywhere, it is using war materials from the West.

Soon, even though Russia has stated that they don't want to fight anything other than Ukraine, soon they will have to start fighting the West more directly.


Odessa's Port Comes Under Massive Russian Attack as Strikes Reach Record Scale


Ukraine blitzes another 19 Russian tankers overnight, with 136 vessels now hit in ten days...


https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15978623/Ukraine-blitzes-19-Russian-tankers-overnight-136-vessels-hit-ten-days-huge-blow-Putin.html
Ukraine attacked another 19 Russian tankers last night, as the nation steps up its war against Putin's shadow fleet.

For the past ten days, Vladimir Putin's fuel carriers have been obliterated in the Azov Sea.

The change of tack caught Russian forces by surprise, using sea drones to strike 17 oil tankers and two gas tankers among the toll of 19.

The latest strikes came as the country marked Ukrainian Statehood Day, honouring the country's more than 1,000-year state tradition, countering Putin's claims that Ukraine is part of Russia.

It means the Ukrainians have hit up to 136 vessels since the start of last week causing massive damage to Putin's ability to supply the annexed tourist region Crimea.

A tanker hit earlier in the Sea of Azov was seen burning, and damage was revealed on dry cargo vessel Chelsea-6.

A day earlier, Ukraine destroyed 205ft-long Izumrud - an FSB security service patrol ship in the Black Sea.

Putin's forces responded to the humiliating decimation of his fleet with massive strikes on port facilities in Ukraine.

At least three were killed in Odesa in missile and drone attacks.

The Russian defence ministry said it had targeted the ports of Odesa and Chornomorsk, striking fuel storage tanks and drone production facilities.

'In addition, four naval vessels delivering cargo for the Ukrainian Armed Forces were hit.'

A huge fire was blazing from a Russian strike at Pivdennyi port in the Odesa region.

Ukraine said Russia had hit two civilian vessels under the flags of Tanzania and Liberia, with one captain killed.

A vessel flying the flag of the Marshall Islands was hit with two killed.

Two dry cargo ships were hit in the Dnipro-Bug port in the Mykolaiv region said Russian sources.

It comes as Lithuania has intelligence that Russia is planning attacks on infrastructure, and security around energy and transport sites will be tightened as a precaution, President Gitanas Nauseda said in an interview published on Wednesday.

Nauseda said he had no information on when or where the attacks were planned, and did not say that his country was the target, in his interview with BNS news agency.

'We have such signals, which we receive from our (intelligence) services. They do not clearly identify place or time ... because the opponent is not at the end of its planning, and we only know about the planning or the goal,' he said.

'It could be various means aimed at physically damaging critical infrastructure. ... Anything that halts the functioning of these sites,' he added.
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[montaga]

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2. Russia doesn't want to leave Ukraine because it would completely lose the Black Sea.
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Muscovites will be landlocked. As they do not come to senses access to Baltic will also be lost.
As there is nothing left in the Sea of Azov, 136 Russian ships been blown up in the Black Sea last 10 days


China more or less preparing for Putin's death
https://cryptobriefing.com/xi-sees-putin-as-junior-partner-amid-growing-china-russia-power-imbalance/

[DaRude]

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Russia will end up like Yugoslavia, divided along ethnic religious groups.

Where did you get the idea that some ethnic religious groups lived in Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia consisted of republics completely different from each other that are independent today, each with its own language, tradition and level of development.

What has very great similarities between Yugoslavia and Russia is the way in which first the Serbs, and then the Russians (brothers by blood, faith, and desire to kill innocents) had the idea on which they began their bloody campaigns. Serbs wanted a greater Serbia and claimed they were going to fight against Nazism and fascism in Croatia, later in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Russians are doing the same today in Ukraine.

The methods they use are identical, because all that remains after them is scorched earth, destroyed cities and villages, and tens of thousands of killed civilians. However, the Serbs lost the war when the Croats strengthened their military to the point that they realized they could no longer do anything to them.

A scenario in which Ukraine strengthens militarily so much that it will be able to liberate its occupied territories is very likely, especially if we see how motivated they are about it. All these brainwashed Russians who write nonsense here about Ukraine attacking Russia and the like might get a chance to defend their country on the battlefield, unless they're cowards hiding behind their keyboards.

Yes let's totally not mention NATO, supposedly a "defensive" alliance, that decided to bomb the hell out of Kosovo. That's not relevant at all and should totally be erased from history  

And here we have the root cause of the problem. Ukrainians lived just fine prior to 2013, but then came the cookies. Now Ukrainians find themselves in the 5th year of busification, US totally stopped providing funds, and while conditions deteriorate and Ukraine needs more and more funds each year, it will receive less and less with every year. There are global elements that want Russia to collapse, i get that, but for some unknown to me reasons Ukrainian government volunteered it's own population for that task!?!? Now in the 5th year while Ukrainians don't even have enough resources or forces to hold the line you keep talking about Ukraine liberating its occupied territories? If it's some kind of a joke, i don't think any Ukrainian will find it funny.
 

Ukraine Aims to Fill Up to Half of Assault Infantry Positions With Foreign Recruits. Ukraine is seeking to dramatically expand the role of foreign recruits in its military, with Defense Minister Mykhailo Fedorov saying the government aims for foreigners to fill up to half of all assault and infantry positions.
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The proposal is part of a  broader effort to strengthen combat units while reducing the burden on Ukrainian troops fighting Russia’s full-scale invasion, Fedorov said in a statement.

“We are opening the foreign recruitment market to strengthen combat units and preserve the lives of Ukrainian service members,” Fedorov said.

WTF why is Ukraine's Defense Minister is falling out of line and now suddenly wants to preserve Ukrainian lives?? Doesn't he know or didn't you tell him, how they're about to start liberating their occupied territories any minute now?   Do you think he's finally realizing his role in all of this? Perhaps there weren't enough moral boosters, and he'll totally forget about this crazy idea if you just claim that Ukraine is about to take Moscow any day now?
Looks like the "west" is running out of Ukrainian souls to do their dirty bidding against Russia. What other governments do you think would be as willing as Ukrainian government to sacrifice their own people for the cookies and send their people as assault infantry against Russia?? Brits? Germans? French? Poles? I'm sure they can still get Nuland and Boris to say a lot of encouraging things

[BADecker]

Cookies BS. Ever read the book "A Bedtime Snack" by Milton Cookies? Ukraine is being put to bed by cookies.

As the fighting picks up - Odessa being destroyed, and Russian bases being hit - it's some of the last breath for Ukraine, while the EU seems to be having fun without really being a threat to Russia. Except for those poor NATO officers who are dying in Ukraine; at least Russia allows their bodies to be sent home.

Russia hasn't stopped hitting Kiev. One vlogger compares Kiev to a moonscape.

500 bodies returned to Ukraine for only 31 being returned to Russia.





EDIT: First strike by a [Russian] Lancet drone on Ukraine's new Sargan naval drone.

[montaga]

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That's nothing, USA has more than 50 republics
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Well no, it is 50 states which is akin to Oblasts (or Provinces) of which Russia has 46 plus 1 Autonomous Oblast and 9 Krais which from legal standpoint is the same, just traditional another name for it.
The 4 Autonomous okrugs are allowed to exit Russia just with a referendum. As a matter of fact, in the modern word they may become of great interest.
Chukotka Autonomous Okrug    population 47,490
Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug   population  1,532,243
Nenets Autonomous Okrug   population41,434
Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug population 510,490

People still not understand how evil USSR was.

[tvbcof]

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2. Russia doesn't want to leave Ukraine because it would completely lose the Black Sea.
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Muscovites will be landlocked. As they do not come to senses access to Baltic will also be lost.
As there is nothing left in the Sea of Azov, 136 Russian ships been blown up in the Black Sea last 10 days

Seems to be true.  A pretty good win for US/NATO, and a bad day (or week) for Russia.

I suspect that this will add impulse for Russia to plan to do Odessa before this thing is over.  The longer they wait, the less inclined the European chattle will be to support their assigned leaderships though.

China more or less preparing for Putin's death
https://cryptobriefing.com/xi-sees-putin-as-junior-partner-amid-growing-china-russia-power-imbalance/

Mildly amusing.  But factually I don't see them as stuck per-se.  They probably could quit any time and whenever they choose to do so they will be walking away with a pretty good pile.