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Votes in Poll: 32 Fury win: 29 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0
Currently under 10% of the votes are for Whyte to win this fight. If he wins it will be a massive upset against Fury who is the odds on favourite to win. There are just 32 votes in the poll, I hope the number increases as we nearer the fight date.
I stand by my earlier views Fury will unify all the heavyweight belts and will make at least one successful defence before he retires as unbeaten champion.
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Votes in Poll: 32 Fury win: 29 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0
Currently under 10% of the votes are for Whyte to win this fight. If he wins it will be a massive upset against Fury who is the odds on favourite to win. There are just 32 votes in the poll, I hope the number increases as we nearer the fight date.
I stand by my earlier views Fury will unify all the heavyweight belts and will make at least one successful defence before he retires as unbeaten champion.
I also expected that most of the people here in the forum are in the side of Tyson Fury rather than Dillian Whyte and just like me, I'm rooting that Tyson Fury will win this fight despite the huge difference in power these two boxers have. Either way, we will see what would be the result in this fight from exactly 1 month from now but I doubt that this the last fight of the Gypsy King, he's just bluffing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Votes in Poll: 32 Fury win: 29 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0
Currently under 10% of the votes are for Whyte to win this fight. If he wins it will be a massive upset against Fury who is the odds on favourite to win. There are just 32 votes in the poll, I hope the number increases as we nearer the fight date.
I stand by my earlier views Fury will unify all the heavyweight belts and will make at least one successful defence before he retires as unbeaten champion.
I also expected that most of the people here in the forum are in the side of Tyson Fury rather than Dillian Whyte and just like me, I'm rooting that Tyson Fury will win this fight despite the huge difference in power these two boxers have. Either way, we will see what would be the result in this fight from exactly 1 month from now but I doubt that this the last fight of the Gypsy King, he's just bluffing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Maybe many judge because Tyson Fury is the best in the current heavyweight era and another reason because looking at his record and rankings, Tyson Fury is much better than Dillian Whyte. And I think he is guaranteed a win against anyone in his weight class because he is still the best, and yes we will see who wins because the vote stats are the result of their research and judgment.
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March 23, 2022, 09:11:07 PM |
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Votes in Poll: 32 Fury win: 29 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0
Currently under 10% of the votes are for Whyte to win this fight. If he wins it will be a massive upset against Fury who is the odds on favourite to win. There are just 32 votes in the poll, I hope the number increases as we nearer the fight date.
I stand by my earlier views Fury will unify all the heavyweight belts and will make at least one successful defence before he retires as unbeaten champion.
I also expected that most of the people here in the forum are in the side of Tyson Fury rather than Dillian Whyte and just like me, I'm rooting that Tyson Fury will win this fight despite the huge difference in power these two boxers have. Either way, we will see what would be the result in this fight from exactly 1 month from now but I doubt that this the last fight of the Gypsy King, he's just bluffing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Why would this be his last fight whether he wins or loses? However unlikely, if he loses against Whyte he will activate the rematch clause and probably be motivated enough to win it. If he wins against Whyte (as is almost universally expected) then his next fight will be a big money fight against the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua fight. Either way there is no reason for him to retire. Maybe many judge because Tyson Fury is the best in the current heavyweight era and another reason because looking at his record and rankings, Tyson Fury is much better than Dillian Whyte. And I think he is guaranteed a win against anyone in his weight class because he is still the best, and yes we will see who wins because the vote stats are the result of their research and judgment. I agree that he is almost guaranteed to beat anybody, that is hard to disagree with because his biggest threat was from Wilder but Fury demolished him twice. Joshua will probably be defeated by Usyk if the rematch goes ahead in June 2022. Whether Fury fights Usyk or Joshua for the unified heavyweight belts, as far as I am concerned he will win because he is too superior a fighter, he is on a completely different level of fighting and technicality to his opponents.
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Whether Fury fights Usyk or Joshua for the unified heavyweight belts, as far as I am concerned he will win because he is too superior a fighter, he is on a completely different level of fighting and technicality to his opponents.
Sometimes we leave room for surprises that can happen. While I believe Tyson Fury will beat Dillian Whyte hands down, anything that can cause an upset can happen. Once there was a Vladimir Klitschko who many thought could not be defeated at all. But he was beaten like a baby by Anthony Joshua as an underdog at a time. Fury can still face the same thing and be punished by Whyte. I can not wait to see what this fight comes up with. Am super excited that it will happen in less than 30 days from today.
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What you wrote about Wladimir Klitschko is extremely disrespectful because he was 41 years old when he faced a 27 year old Joshua yet it took a momentous effort by Joshua which was barely enough to him to win. You are wrong, Wladimir Klitschko was not beaten like a baby by Joshua, he got caught with a single punch that knocked him down (and that could happen to any fighter) but if you take Joshua at 30 years old in his prime and he was to fight a 30 year old Klitschko I have no doubt Joshua would be beaten. As for Whyte, sure he has the hope of getting the one punch on an unguarded Fury but the most likely scenario is Fury will demolish Whyte. Whether Fury fights Usyk or Joshua for the unified heavyweight belts, as far as I am concerned he will win because he is too superior a fighter, he is on a completely different level of fighting and technicality to his opponents.
Sometimes we leave room for surprises that can happen. While I believe Tyson Fury will beat Dillian Whyte hands down, anything that can cause an upset can happen. Once there was a Vladimir Klitschko who many thought could not be defeated at all. But he was beaten like a baby by Anthony Joshua as an underdog at a time. Fury can still face the same thing and be punished by Whyte. I can not wait to see what this fight comes up with. Am super excited that it will happen in less than 30 days from today.
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Votes in Poll: 32 Fury win: 29 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0
Currently under 10% of the votes are for Whyte to win this fight. If he wins it will be a massive upset against Fury who is the odds on favourite to win. There are just 32 votes in the poll, I hope the number increases as we nearer the fight date.
I stand by my earlier views Fury will unify all the heavyweight belts and will make at least one successful defence before he retires as unbeaten champion.
I also expected that most of the people here in the forum are in the side of Tyson Fury rather than Dillian Whyte and just like me, I'm rooting that Tyson Fury will win this fight despite the huge difference in power these two boxers have. Either way, we will see what would be the result in this fight from exactly 1 month from now but I doubt that this the last fight of the Gypsy King, he's just bluffing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Maybe many judge because Tyson Fury is the best in the current heavyweight era and another reason because looking at his record and rankings, Tyson Fury is much better than Dillian Whyte. And I think he is guaranteed a win against anyone in his weight class because he is still the best, and yes we will see who wins because the vote stats are the result of their research and judgment. Of course there would be many boxing fans that will favor the heavy favorite, including me and that's the current Heavyweight division champion Tyson Fury rather than the underdog Dillian Whyte, you know numbers don't lie and the stats really shows that Whyte here won't be the one who will give a stain in Fury's record, actually I think the man will retire undefeated.
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What you wrote about Wladimir Klitschko is extremely disrespectful because he was 41 years old when he faced a 27 year old Joshua yet it took a momentous effort by Joshua which was barely enough to him to win.
I did not understand what you mean by my post being disrespectful. I did not mean to sound rude but only stated my observation. I like to say that any boxer defeated by TKO even if it is a single punch landing on the ribs or an uppercut that knocks the breath out of him is thoroughly beaten. Sorry if that offended you because Klitschko is one of your favorite boxer. But he also sent alot of boxers to the canvas. He was great during his boxing career too.
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For your information, you misunderstood my post, I was not offended, not at all. And though he is a boxing legend Klitschko was not one of my favourite boxers but he dominated heavyweight boxing for a very long time and that means he should be respected. And yes you are right, Klitschko sent a lot of boxer to the canvas and without doubt he was great for huge durations of his long career. Before losing to Fury and then Joshua he had a won:64 losses:3 record, therefore you saying he cried like a baby (when Joshua defeated him) was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer. Klitschko was 41 years old and out of the ring for nearly 17 months but he almost won that fight against a 27 year old Joshua. Whichever way the fight is seen it is clear Klitschko did not cry like a baby when he fought Joshua. What you wrote about Wladimir Klitschko is extremely disrespectful because he was 41 years old when he faced a 27 year old Joshua yet it took a momentous effort by Joshua which was barely enough to him to win.
I did not understand what you mean by my post being disrespectful. I did not mean to sound rude but only stated my observation. I like to say that any boxer defeated by TKO even if it is a single punch landing on the ribs or an uppercut that knocks the breath out of him is thoroughly beaten. Sorry if that offended you because Klitschko is one of your favorite boxer. But he also sent alot of boxers to the canvas. He was great during his boxing career too.
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I agree that he is almost guaranteed to beat anybody, that is hard to disagree with because his biggest threat was from Wilder but Fury demolished him twice. Joshua will probably be defeated by Usyk if the rematch goes ahead in June 2022.
Whether Fury fights Usyk or Joshua for the unified heavyweight belts, as far as I am concerned he will win because he is too superior a fighter, he is on a completely different level of fighting and technicality to his opponents.
I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.
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I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.
I'm not sure, he's still a very technical fighter when it comes to it. The only problem with Fury is motivation, he's performed worse (Wallin) when he isn't motivated. If he isn't motivated his technique drops, as well as his power. He just looks like he's trying new things, rather than focusing on winning, He takes a lot more chances, now we kind of got accustomed to that because of the Wilder fight after, since he had to take chances, since despite how technical he was, one hit, and it's over. The thing is I think Usyk despite being technical, doesn't carry the same knockout threat, and outboxing Joshua isn't exactly a massive achievement, in a technical way at least. Joshua isn't technical, and hes never been a traditional boxer like Usky, instead he won his fights because of his power. Now, ever since he was dropped by Ruiz, hes backed away from fire fights, which has been his undoing. He seems to lack that confidence he once had. If Joshua gets that back, I see him beating Usyk, but he will absolutely not out box him. Same with Fury, except I believe Fury could match him toe to toe in a technical boxing match.
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I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.
You have a point, Usyk is technically an excellent fighter therefore you are right when you say you are not sure if Fury is better technically. For me, I still do not see a problem in the comparison. Whatever happens, if Fury defeats Whyte and then Usyk defeats Joshua - Usyk will put up a much stronger defence against Fury than Joshua would. As for Whyte, if he manages to pull off a victory against Fury he will have to beat him twice (after the rematch) to have a chance of fighting the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua rematch. Heavyweight boxing is looking a little more exciting these days ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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~ I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows. The interesting aspect of Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury match up is that both are technically strong and both have a ton of experience in the amateurs and Usyk is an Olympic champion and hence that will be a great match up. Tyson Fury is not known for his crushing blows, he picks apart boxers usually and he always finds a way to win the fight as he can adapt to the situation.
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What you wrote about Wladimir Klitschko is extremely disrespectful because he was 41 years old when he faced a 27 year old Joshua yet it took a momentous effort by Joshua which was barely enough to him to win.
I did not understand what you mean by my post being disrespectful. I did not mean to sound rude but only stated my observation. I like to say that any boxer defeated by TKO even if it is a single punch landing on the ribs or an uppercut that knocks the breath out of him is thoroughly beaten. Sorry if that offended you because Klitschko is one of your favorite boxer. But he also sent alot of boxers to the canvas. He was great during his boxing career too. It's just probably just a little unfair to speak of Wladimir Klitschko being beaten like a baby by Anthony Joshua. And at that time, Anthony Joshua was already starting to make a name as a young and promising heavyweight while Klitschko was already an old man facing the beginning of the end of his boxing career. The younger Klitschko was a ferocious fighter. I am 100% sure Wladimir will knock out Anthony Joshua when both of them faced each other during their prime.
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You said it correctly, Whyte is very small draw compared to Usyk, Joshua and of course Fury but inside the ring he has a huge frame and is capable of causing damage to any opponent but is small when standing next to Fury. If he loses (as expected) then Whyte should retire knowing he tried his best but simply was beaten by the better fighter. Not all boxers have a chance at fighting for a title therefore Whyte should be proud to be given number one rank by the WBC and he will have his chance. Unfortunately for him he will be up against Fury. Reading what you wrote about the possibility that Whyte could be another Ruiz in the making (alluding to him defeating Joshua), well that is possible but really what are the chances? My understanding is that Fury was trying to get out of fighting Whyte because he was a much smaller draw than Joshua or Usyk. Whyte on the other hand was trying his best to make the fight happen but he wanted more than the 20% of the funds that he was getting and he was not happy that Fury was getting 80%. He really is a small draw compared if he is fighting Usyk or Joshua but Whyte is one annoying guy, he needs to dispatch this guy so no one will hinder a fight against Usyk or Joshua, Whyte has been calling all champions to fight him because he is a top rank contender because of his win against Povetkin The Whyte team was not happy with the amount of money they were going to get therefore they were trying to avoid signing the contract in the hope of getting a better deal, they never avoided fighting Fury they just wanted a fairer share of the funds. Fury is the big crowd and PPV attraction Whyte should understand that, it will be his turn if he beats Fury he should be happy that he is challenging Fury for the title this is his last chance to win a title and become a top boxer, we never know if he is another Andy Ruiz in the making, so far no one is voting Whyte on this poll and it's very obvious.
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therefore you saying he cried like a baby (when Joshua defeated him) was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer.
Pls do not make me look bad by adding to my post what I did not say. There was nowhere i said he cried like a baby, hello? I said he was beaten like a baby by AJ. And I maintain it. Any boxer who was defeated through a TKO is beaten like a baby. But if it is through unanimous decision then it is not. That is my assessment. Will you not say that Wilder was beaten like a baby by Tyson Fury too? Klitschko was 41 years old and out of the ring for nearly 17 months but he almost won that fight against a 27 year old Joshua. Whichever way the fight is seen it is clear Klitschko did not cry like a baby when he fought Joshua.
Why did he not retire before facing AJ if he knew he was going to face a young and talented boxer? His age should not be an excuse.
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therefore you saying he cried like a baby (when Joshua defeated him) was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer.
Pls do not make me look bad by adding to my post what I did not say. There was nowhere i said he cried like a baby, hello? I said he was beaten like a baby by AJ. And I maintain it. Any boxer who was defeated through a TKO is beaten like a baby. But if it is through unanimous decision then it is not. That is my assessment. Will you not say that Wilder was beaten like a baby by Tyson Fury too? Beat like a baby... Cry like a baby... Not much difference between the two. I mistakenly wrote "cry" instead of "beat" but it did not make you look bad. Not sure why you would assume that when the whole context of your post was looking bad in my opinion. As for you maintaining what you wrote above, you are entitled to your opinion but I will never say any boxer (Wilder or otherwise) was beaten like a baby - that is not something I would do. As for me, I am still maintaining what you wrote was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer. In my opinion he was not beaten like a baby by Joshua and I further maintain that Joshua was fortunate to win that fight. That is my assessment and my opinion. Klitschko was 41 years old and out of the ring for nearly 17 months but he almost won that fight against a 27 year old Joshua. Whichever way the fight is seen it is clear Klitschko did not cry like a baby when he fought Joshua.
Why did he not retire before facing AJ if he knew he was going to face a young and talented boxer? His age should not be an excuse. Why ask me? I am not Klitschko and I am not his manager or promoter. I have no interest in knowing why Klitschko retired, semi-retired or came out of retirement to fight Joshua. Any more posts directed to me about your earlier posts with references to Klitschko, Joshua, Cry and Beat will be considered off-topic and will be deleted.
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I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.
The thing is I think Usyk despite being technical, doesn't carry the same knockout threat, and outboxing Joshua isn't exactly a massive achievement, in a technical way at least. Joshua isn't technical, and hes never been a traditional boxer like Usky, instead he won his fights because of his power. Now, ever since he was dropped by Ruiz, hes backed away from fire fights, which has been his undoing. He seems to lack that confidence he once had. If Joshua gets that back, I see him beating Usyk, but he will absolutely not out box him. Same with Fury, except I believe Fury could match him toe to toe in a technical boxing match. Another problem is that if Usyk outboxes Joshua without a knockout, then everyone will take it for granted because in the first fight he destroyed Joshua and the result of the fight was impossible to dispute. But if Usyk can "survive" the entire fight against Fury and even be ahead "on fair points", then he will not be given the victory because the challenger must be clearly stronger than the champion. As for Whyte, if he manages to pull off a victory against Fury he will have to beat him twice (after the rematch) to have a chance of fighting the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua rematch. Heavyweight boxing is looking a little more exciting these days ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If Fury really loses these two fights (it will already take at least a year) and Wilder has time to return to business, then with any outcome of the Usyk-Joshua fight, the situation will again become as confused as possible. It would be really epic and interesting.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.worldboxingnews.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F03%2Ffury-whyte-poster-close.jpg&t=665&c=xf8DuBHVU0wZqw) It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay. Here is the latest news on what his lawyer has been saying and how Hearn has been adding his voice to the situation: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/will-the-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte-fight-go-ahead-as-scheduled-whytes-lawyer-not-sure/216363Votes in Poll: 34 Fury win: 31 Whyte win: 3 Draw: 0The votes in the poll are far lower than I would have hoped for. Keep the votes coming in ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay.
I've read the article you've said, thanks. I don't know much about the complimentary tickets or some details behind the scene and their agreements, but what I'm so curious about is that why did Fury's team didn't disclose any details about the fight and the inside venue? It's a bit unfair I think that Whyte's entourage or family doesn't have any tickets at all to watch the fight. That's also why Eddie Hearn have said that he's glad that he got no part about the fight and promotions. Seems a little bit messy behind the scenes.
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