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May 15, 2022, 08:06:00 PM
 #681

i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all

Who you want to boycott is your private choice. If you want to boycott the whole world, you can do it, but it will be a bit weird. When it comes to boycotting Russian casinos, there is a clear goal behind it.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to boycott China?

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May 15, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
 #682

i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all

Who you want to boycott is your private choice. If you want to boycott the whole world, you can do it, but it will be a bit weird. When it comes to boycotting Russian casinos, there is a clear goal behind it.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to boycott China?

China is an important trading partner of Russia and has not expressed its opinion in favor of their support for Russia or against Russia. In principle, the rest of the world will interpret this as aid to Russia. But China is hugely dependent on Russia and vice versa, so they want to be neutral in this situation for as long as possible.

ya.ya.yo!

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May 15, 2022, 09:07:02 PM
 #683

i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all

Who you want to boycott is your private choice. If you want to boycott the whole world, you can do it, but it will be a bit weird. When it comes to boycotting Russian casinos, there is a clear goal behind it.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to boycott China?

China is an important trading partner of Russia and has not expressed its opinion in favor of their support for Russia or against Russia. In principle, the rest of the world will interpret this as aid to Russia. But China is hugely dependent on Russia and vice versa, so they want to be neutral in this situation for as long as possible.

ya.ya.yo!

It's nice that you explained it to all of us. It's hard not to notice that Russia at the moment has the ability to trade almost exclusively with China. China, however, speaks negatively about war crimes committed by Russian troops. I don't see a need to boycott Chinese casinos .. if they exist at all.

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May 15, 2022, 09:34:58 PM
 #684

i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all

Who you want to boycott is your private choice. If you want to boycott the whole world, you can do it, but it will be a bit weird. When it comes to boycotting Russian casinos, there is a clear goal behind it.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to boycott China?

China is an important trading partner of Russia and has not expressed its opinion in favor of their support for Russia or against Russia. In principle, the rest of the world will interpret this as aid to Russia. But China is hugely dependent on Russia and vice versa, so they want to be neutral in this situation for as long as possible.

ya.ya.yo!
Fact!

They arent really giving their actions towards on the current issue or crisis in between Russia and Ukraine cause they dont really like for experiencing problems later on when the war is over
specially if they do tend to oppose or goes salty towards Russia.Its impossible about having no ties in between these powerful countries.We couldnt deny about  economic mutual benefits
in between thats why we arent seeing any sentiments or words from China in relation to the current event or crisis.

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May 15, 2022, 10:16:55 PM
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i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all

Who you want to boycott is your private choice. If you want to boycott the whole world, you can do it, but it will be a bit weird. When it comes to boycotting Russian casinos, there is a clear goal behind it.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to boycott China?

China is an important trading partner of Russia and has not expressed its opinion in favor of their support for Russia or against Russia. In principle, the rest of the world will interpret this as aid to Russia. But China is hugely dependent on Russia and vice versa, so they want to be neutral in this situation for as long as possible.

ya.ya.yo!
Fact!

They arent really giving their actions towards on the current issue or crisis in between Russia and Ukraine cause they dont really like for experiencing problems later on when the war is over
specially if they do tend to oppose or goes salty towards Russia.Its impossible about having no ties in between these powerful countries.We couldnt deny about  economic mutual benefits
in between thats why we arent seeing any sentiments or words from China in relation to the current event or crisis.

China takes advantage of the situation very well, knowing that it is necessary for Russia to continue the war. In my opinion, China is doing bad, but its position in the international arena is so strong that they may not care at all about the opinion of the rest of the world.

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rrent conflict going on, it will be harder for us to achieve peace especially since all of us aren't working with each other. I mean, how can we achieve peace if there are racial, gender and many more discrimination going on. We all say that we want peace but it is something that we can never achieve.
Anyway, with the conflict going on with Russia and Ukraine, boycotting either of the countries will not help the war between these two as the people who will be affected by these boycotts will be the business owners and not the government. Let's just follow the sanctions that has been provided by our country to avoid further conflict.
It is for sure - even after having so many  sanctions on Russia - you will see Ruble strengthening and people depending on Russia for oil supply.
Russia is not Afghanistan - Yamen - Palestine - Serya that they will get under pressure. Russia will fight back and they will emerge as more stronger country. I foresee a lot of changes in world dynamics after this. Mark may message!

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It's nice that you explained it to all of us. It's hard not to notice that Russia at the moment has the ability to trade almost exclusively with China. China, however, speaks negatively about war crimes committed by Russian troops. I don't see a need to boycott Chinese casinos .. if they exist at all.
I think that the all the world trade mostly with China, so i think that it is enough for Russia.
And China speaks negatively about all war crimes, and not often i see it about Russian troops. And China asks US to answer why they placed their bio laboratories with dangerous research at the Ukraine. But it is not so interesting?

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It's nice that you explained it to all of us. It's hard not to notice that Russia at the moment has the ability to trade almost exclusively with China. China, however, speaks negatively about war crimes committed by Russian troops. I don't see a need to boycott Chinese casinos .. if they exist at all.
I think that the all the world trade mostly with China, so i think that it is enough for Russia.
And China speaks negatively about all war crimes, and not often i see it about Russian troops. And China asks US to answer why they placed their bio laboratories with dangerous research at the Ukraine. But it is not so interesting?
These big or powerful countries wont really be making out some immediate step whether which one they would accompanied or would simply keep theirselves neutral.

Decisions made whether which one they would really be supporting is something that could really give or make out some conflicts once they had made such decision.

So they've decided to be in neutral or doesnt really make out some words in regards to it.

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May 16, 2022, 08:10:40 PM
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And China asks US to answer why they placed their bio laboratories with dangerous research at the Ukraine. But it is not so interesting?

Could you please write something more about it? Because I have never seen anyone prove the existence of US laboratories in Ukraine. It would be very interesting if it weren't just propaganda rumors.
The facts are that Russian troops are in Ukraine and that Russian missiles are bombing Ukrainian cities, killing civilians.
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Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

Since Russia has maintained its position despite such sanctions, Russia's decision to end the war will be final. While other countries could boycott Russia's other things, Europe could not survive without Russian oil. So Russia's main power here is oil.

So even if they boycott other things, including gambling websites, there is no tension in Russia because they will sell oil and cover everything.

My point is not that, my point is why will be boycott? Many ordinary civilians run their lives through working in these gambling websites, they have not done anything wrong! The trouble here is due to the political reasons of the two countries. And from this point of view, the big powers in the Middle East have killed millions and are still killing, haven't we seen any boycott against them? I don't understand why there is discrimination here !

If they want to stop gambling for personal reasons, even if they have their own style of gambling at any tide, if he wants to stop it from the bottom, even if he is shown a thousand different reasons, no one from the website thinks that the reason he will share is his personal.  The reason is that something has happened here for political reasons and he has no right to do what has happened. I think he wants to move away from the tide site


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If they want to stop gambling for personal reasons, even if they have their own style of gambling at any tide, if he wants to stop it from the bottom, even if he is shown a thousand different reasons, no one from the website thinks that the reason he will share is his personal.  The reason is that something has happened here for political reasons and he has no right to do what has happened. I think he wants to move away from the tide site
Website gambling ability moving from one country to another country and not have any reason with support collective boycott gambling Russia platform although good reason with war invasion. But still personal reason I think or have other important like gambling platform competitor and try thousand way how to make competitor close down with giving war invasion. I worry the OP make this tread have other important, maybe he come from with some gambling platform and try how to make down with other gambling platform actually from Russia and ask to other member to boycott Russia gambling platcorm.

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I worry the OP make this tread have other important, maybe he come from with some gambling platform and try how to make down with other gambling platform actually from Russia and ask to other member to boycott Russia gambling platcorm.

It seems that OP got mixed a few things up. I don't know if his intentions are to slender a competitive casinos, but the websites that he mentioned in the opening post, according to Wikipedia, are not based in Russia, but in Cyprus.

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If they want to stop gambling for personal reasons, even if they have their own style of gambling at any tide, if he wants to stop it from the bottom, even if he is shown a thousand different reasons, no one from the website thinks that the reason he will share is his personal.  The reason is that something has happened here for political reasons and he has no right to do what has happened. I think he wants to move away from the tide site
If it is related to the political situation, then it can impact the business world, including gambling. Websites can stop their activities if the government pressures them but if the website is not related to any government, they can move the server to another country. This might be safer for the website because it can still run its business without political elements. But I think every website must have thought about what they should do about the boycott issue and nothing will happen to them.

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If they want to stop gambling for personal reasons, even if they have their own style of gambling at any tide, if he wants to stop it from the bottom, even if he is shown a thousand different reasons, no one from the website thinks that the reason he will share is his personal.  The reason is that something has happened here for political reasons and he has no right to do what has happened. I think he wants to move away from the tide site
Website gambling ability moving from one country to another country and not have any reason with support collective boycott gambling Russia platform although good reason with war invasion. But still personal reason I think or have other important like gambling platform competitor and try thousand way how to make competitor close down with giving war invasion. I worry the OP make this tread have other important, maybe he come from with some gambling platform and try how to make down with other gambling platform actually from Russia and ask to other member to boycott Russia gambling platcorm.

This is why we should be more vigilant since maybe there are someone trying to exploit things and want to create confusion to the people especially there's a controversy happening in that country. Maybe since those sanction didn't give much effect I think its best to let those Russian platform to be free on this collective boycotting since the simple citizen is the one who's suffering for this.

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May 17, 2022, 11:15:29 AM
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If they want to stop gambling for personal reasons, even if they have their own style of gambling at any tide, if he wants to stop it from the bottom, even if he is shown a thousand different reasons, no one from the website thinks that the reason he will share is his personal.  The reason is that something has happened here for political reasons and he has no right to do what has happened. I think he wants to move away from the tide site
Website gambling ability moving from one country to another country and not have any reason with support collective boycott gambling Russia platform although good reason with war invasion. But still personal reason I think or have other important like gambling platform competitor and try thousand way how to make competitor close down with giving war invasion. I worry the OP make this tread have other important, maybe he come from with some gambling platform and try how to make down with other gambling platform actually from Russia and ask to other member to boycott Russia gambling platcorm.

This is why we should be more vigilant since maybe there are someone trying to exploit things and want to create confusion to the people especially there's a controversy happening in that country. Maybe since those sanction didn't give much effect I think its best to let those Russian platform to be free on this collective boycotting since the simple citizen is the one who's suffering for this.

I think we have to choose which evil is worse. Russian citizens will not starve. In my opinion, the fact that civilians are killed because of Russia's aggression is worse. If this boycott can help reduce the flow of tax money from the casinos to support this war, then it is better than just watching people get killed.

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May 17, 2022, 11:53:44 AM
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i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all
How do you want us to boycott China when it is one of the large economy and one of the most productive country. We all depends on China for most materials and gadgets. This boycotting of Russia casino is only a suggestion and can never be real. If I do use a Russian owned casino, you can't force me to use another when I am more confident using them. Use what you know is working for you.

This kind of action is just a dependent thing we know the topic is just within the russia we don't need to get into the other country because they have their own side of it. Also if the platform only supports the war and the one part of the boycott we don't need to include those others that don't want to support the against of the both country.

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And China asks US to answer why they placed their bio laboratories with dangerous research at the Ukraine. But it is not so interesting?

Could you please write something more about it? Because I have never seen anyone prove the existence of US laboratories in Ukraine. It would be very interesting if it weren't just propaganda rumors.
Let i google it for you. It cost me 5 minutes:
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-03-08/China-urges-U-S-to-disclose-details-about-biolabs-in-Ukraine-18eA7VpwQRG/index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-08/china-pushes-russia-conspiracy-theory-about-u-s-labs-in-ukraine
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/china-demands-answers-from-us-for-26-biolabs-in-ukraine-/2528207
https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/

Try to analyze this information fairly. And not only the information that i found for you but also for what purposes it was used and why in Ukraine.

PS. I understand that everyone choose information that he likes, but the truth usually is somewhere between the extremes.

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I agree that the current sanctions are ridiculous. Russia should be completely cut off from trade with the world. Then Putin would definitely think very quickly about what is more profitable for him. I think now about the sanctions that were once imposed on Iran.
However, if no one is doing it so far, then all boycots, even if do not have a large impact on the Russian budget, are a clear signal that the world does not accept a pointless war. If there are no such signals, i.e. boycotts and sanctions, it will be a silent approval that Putin can attack whoever he wants.
This is really strong argument. First of all, the world must stop buying oil and gaz. Then stop buying fertilizers. Stop using russian rocket engines. Stop buying food, neon. Stop buying nuclear fuel and selling nuclear waste.
And after that boycott of russian casinos will make Putin suffer very much.
The world changed. The all world couldn`t do anything with Iran, US can`t win even in Venezuela but boycott of casino makes Russia to surrender.
Do you really have the idea on what are the things you've been talking on? If cutting off ties with Russia in terms of oil supply and related things then they had already done such thing since from the
beginning but since Russia is one of the top suppliers of oil and gas specially in Europe then it cant really be denied that other neighboring countries do really need that one out.
Sanctions is the key but we do see on how Russia do able to withstand these things but im much sure that the longer it runs the more destruction or problem that it could make.
Casino boycotting wont be affecting that much imho.
Try to search more information. Russia not only oil and gaz supplier. We can talk about what Russia export for a long time and i can`t say who will lose more, if Russia decide to answer in the same way. Do you fly from Europe to China for example? Compare ticket price in January and in April. Russia imports a huge quantity of PC, but the same time Russia exports components without which no one can product it.
Russia just didn`t answer yet and here you decide that casino boycott will break Russian economy.
Yes, well what most of us know is roughly what they show on the news above, it is known that RUSSIA is a purely oil country and that it provides gas for all of Europe. I am intrigued to know how Europe is doing to solve the oil and gas problem? I know that the oil producing countries are giving a lot of production to the USA, because the USA is clearly a consumer, but Europe with all the sanctions imposed on Russia, which country is helping them with the gas crisis? Everything that is related to war damages many things, business models and many good productive things that countries do, I feel that in these moments any person from any country tries to do the best they can to work and earn their livelihood and that includes Russians who have nothing to do with the war.

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May 18, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
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I agree that the current sanctions are ridiculous. Russia should be completely cut off from trade with the world. Then Putin would definitely think very quickly about what is more profitable for him. I think now about the sanctions that were once imposed on Iran.
However, if no one is doing it so far, then all boycots, even if do not have a large impact on the Russian budget, are a clear signal that the world does not accept a pointless war. If there are no such signals, i.e. boycotts and sanctions, it will be a silent approval that Putin can attack whoever he wants.
This is really strong argument. First of all, the world must stop buying oil and gaz. Then stop buying fertilizers. Stop using russian rocket engines. Stop buying food, neon. Stop buying nuclear fuel and selling nuclear waste.
And after that boycott of russian casinos will make Putin suffer very much.
The world changed. The all world couldn`t do anything with Iran, US can`t win even in Venezuela but boycott of casino makes Russia to surrender.
Do you really have the idea on what are the things you've been talking on? If cutting off ties with Russia in terms of oil supply and related things then they had already done such thing since from the
beginning but since Russia is one of the top suppliers of oil and gas specially in Europe then it cant really be denied that other neighboring countries do really need that one out.
Sanctions is the key but we do see on how Russia do able to withstand these things but im much sure that the longer it runs the more destruction or problem that it could make.
Casino boycotting wont be affecting that much imho.
Try to search more information. Russia not only oil and gaz supplier. We can talk about what Russia export for a long time and i can`t say who will lose more, if Russia decide to answer in the same way. Do you fly from Europe to China for example? Compare ticket price in January and in April. Russia imports a huge quantity of PC, but the same time Russia exports components without which no one can product it.
Russia just didn`t answer yet and here you decide that casino boycott will break Russian economy.
Yes, well what most of us know is roughly what they show on the news above, it is known that RUSSIA is a purely oil country and that it provides gas for all of Europe. I am intrigued to know how Europe is doing to solve the oil and gas problem? I know that the oil producing countries are giving a lot of production to the USA, because the USA is clearly a consumer, but Europe with all the sanctions imposed on Russia, which country is helping them with the gas crisis? Everything that is related to war damages many things, business models and many good productive things that countries do, I feel that in these moments any person from any country tries to do the best they can to work and earn their livelihood and that includes Russians who have nothing to do with the war.


Lately there has been some high level profile member who spoke against war,a former Russian colonel spoke in the Russian TV State media and told that things will be worse for us in the coming future as long as Europe and US is arming about 1 million Ukrainians.

Finally I see some Russians waking up as surely they cannot withstand for much longer the Putin regime which is bringing Russia to misery and to a complete economic isolation.There is need for cars there but there are almost no known European brand left there,so they started again production of Moskvich car which is well known for making terrible cars with lots of defects.Things are definitely not going well in Russia and the ones who suffer the most are the civilian population.

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May 18, 2022, 02:02:38 PM
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i'll start boycotting russia when just one of you start boycott china.


untill then, vodka on the rocks for all
How do you want us to boycott China when it is one of the large economy and one of the most productive country. We all depends on China for most materials and gadgets. This boycotting of Russia casino is only a suggestion and can never be real. If I do use a Russian owned casino, you can't force me to use another when I am more confident using them. Use what you know is working for you.

This kind of action is just a dependent thing we know the topic is just within the russia we don't need to get into the other country because they have their own side of it. Also if the platform only supports the war and the one part of the boycott we don't need to include those others that don't want to support the against of the both country.

Well said @Peanutswar
Talking about boycotting Russian gambling sites doesn't mean everyone here is actually boycotting them.
There may be people who are just supporting the idea of boycotting those sites but not actually doing it.
The thing is that nobody will ever find out and nobody can force them too. It's just the gesture that we can relate to.

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