Sanction isn't the right option

[Hispo]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower.  

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


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duke

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there

The way I see it, even if havier sanctions are applied against Russia, they still have China as a political and economic ally to supply them anything they may need, or at least part of it and I don't see USA applying sanctions against China any time soon.

Also, I believe the deployment of troops to aid the Ukranian resistance is something the Western powers are trying to avoid, so the conflict will not escalate into a global one.

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[Ozero]

Every country is trying to take advantage of others issue is the root cause of every wars, for example this Russia and Ukraine war started because of NATO extension so that existing super countries will have a spot on the other super power and may attack easily if needed so from Russia's perspective they are trying to save their border from other big nations.

At first, after a full-scale military invasion of Ukraine, Putin tried to justify his aggressive actions by saying that Ukraine was going to join NATO, and Russia cannot allow this because of the growing military threat from this alliance in this case. True, at the same time, he kept silent that there have long been NATO members on the Russian border - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Now, in the coming months, because of the war in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden may join NATO, and in this case, Russia's border with NATO countries will double. Moreover, it will be much closer from Finland to launch missiles at Moscow and St. Petersburg than even from Ukraine. And Russia only threatened Finland and calmed down. Clearly, NATO expansion is not the real reason for Russia's attack on Ukraine. Putin simply wanted to seize the territory of a neighboring state and attach it to the empire he was creating.

[Semar Mesem]

If sanctions are imposed, it can be ascertained that there will be many difficulties for more citizens, what happened to countries that were subject to sanctions such as what happened with Iraq, North Korea, Cuba and so on must be taken into consideration that human values must be considered.

[bakasabo]

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there

You want to close air space above Russia (if yes, then how is it possible?) or dont allow planes, that belong to Russian companies fly above European territory for example? Will that help, as there is neutral territory in sky, and there are countries that are still allies to Russia. On the other hand, can Russians still afford to fly? Arent tickets now extremely expensive and most cant afford regular flights, while those who can afford private flights, are no longer in Russia.

In my opinion, current sanctions against Russia does not works against who they suppose to have most effect on. Sort of a find those who are guilty and punish random, but not them.

[be.open]

Meanwhile, the European Union has introduced the seventh package of sanctions against Russia. They banned Russian gold, froze the assets of Sberbank and more than 50 new individuals and legal entities, including politicians, military leaders, oligarchs, and propagandists. I have not yet come under EU sanctions, probably I am trying badly with the spread of Russian propaganda. 

[trendcoin]

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In the world of the fascists, wars were fought with bayonets at the front. In the world of liberals, wars are fought with sanctions that prevent competition in the economic field.

We are already in a war. I personally do not expect this war to go to any further extreme. The European countries, which accepted the defeat, agreed to buy natural gas with the Ruble. When Russia accepts that it has been defeated in some issues, new balances will be formed in the world.

Thank goodness fascists do not rule the world. Instead of the death of 100 million people, we solve our problems with global economic crises.

[Argoo]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

Sanctions are essentially very mild pressure on the aggressor. In fact, in this case, the states tell the aggressor country that you are doing bad things, and therefore we will not trade with you and have other common affairs. The meaning of the sanctions is that, by voluntarily giving up part of their profits, many countries cause serious economic damage to a country that violates the established general norms of behavior.

Another form of effective public response to the fact of an attack like that made by Russia could be to come together and launch a common military strike against the aggressor. True, there is also a third option: not to notice the fact of aggression. But everyone understands: today they attacked a neighbor, and tomorrow they will attack you, and no one will intervene. Therefore, you need to choose between the first and second option.

The Putin regime tried to avoid these variants of public reaction by seizing the territory of Ukraine in 3-5 days at lightning speed and forcing its political leadership to sign extremely unfavorable conditions and abandoning any claims against the aggressor. But Ukraine, through a stubborn struggle for its independence, violated these plans. Therefore, the first option is still working in the form of sanctions and all kinds of assistance to Ukraine, except for the participation of its troops in this war.

[minime0105]

Meanwhile, the European Union has introduced the seventh package of sanctions against Russia. They banned Russian gold, froze the assets of Sberbank and more than 50 new individuals and legal entities, including politicians, military leaders, oligarchs, and propagandists. I have not yet come under EU sanctions, probably I am trying badly with the spread of Russian propaganda. 

I think they are doing this because of the problem between Russia and Ukraine but all this they doing it is not supposed to be in that form because of Russia is being silent also Russia rice against Ukraine if every nation is psychosocial that means that we know whom all-russia in my own suggestion I think that the best thing to do is to find way to make the matter between Russia and Ukraine to be settled and make a building without being think bias by siding one another

[DrBeer]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

The problem is that you made a mistake at the very beginning, equating reparation payments with sanctions. And then the rest of the discussion was built on this erroneous opinion. Reparations are retribution for a crime committed. The aggression of Germany led to a huge number of victims, and the reparations became a good flogging for the entire population of Germany, and an occasion to think whether it is worth supporting the bastard rulers.
Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

[mm2543363580]

Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

The thing is - it is true that the sanction is not the right option.
I said that so many times earlier. EU is not putting Russia in trouble but they are putting their own self and other countries in trouble.
They have pressurised Pakistan and Sri Lanka to vote against Russia - and when they didn't - they changed the government- what a mess going on those two countries too.

[bakasabo]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

[og kush420]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

It seems Russia don't even care about the sanctions, the sanctions are not affecting the Russia.  If the sanctions are affecting Russia badly they would have giving up on the war , it looks as if the sanctions is not working on them. The war  is becoming long no one knows when Russia will quit the war.

EU and USA tried to dragged the whole world in the Ukraine and Russia war.
Sri lanaka and Pakistan wanted to remind neutral but they faced the serious consequences for not jumping into this war. Now everyone is trouble due to inflation and Biden is rushing to Saudia for help.

[Wong Gendheng]

I am sure that more Russians who disagree with the government who invasion to Ukraine, if the world applies strict economic sanctions, of course those who are innocent and love peace are also affected, it is better to persuade the government to immediately stop the war.

[Ozero]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

It seems Russia don't even care about the sanctions, the sanctions are not affecting the Russia.  If the sanctions are affecting Russia badly they would have giving up on the war , it looks as if the sanctions is not working on them. The war  is becoming long no one knows when Russia will quit the war.

Russia doesn't give a damn about sanctions. This is clear. It was the original tactic to deny the obvious so that the world would lose faith in their application. Sanctions are doing their job and this is already noticeable in many sectors of Russia. For example, in the aircraft industry, Russia will very soon lose its aircraft due to the inability to service them. This applies even to those 600 aircraft that she did not want to return after leasing because the Kremlin clearly knew that the problems would grow.
The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately. After all, sanctioned goods remain in warehouses in Russia for some time, and at first there may still be loopholes to bypass them. But given that almost half a year has already passed after their application, with each subsequent month their influence will increase.
Oil and gas prices are rising at first, as the logistics routes for their supplies are disrupted, but this is a temporary phenomenon. In the future, Russia will definitely lose.

[bakasabo]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

[mm2543363580]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

Now who is next in line. That is Taiwan. And I have seen 80 years old representative coming to Taiwan and supporting them for the war against China.
Now they are ready to create another mess after Russia.
Let every country fight their own battle and leave the whole world alone for time being.

[DrBeer]

Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

The thing is - it is true that the sanction is not the right option.
I said that so many times earlier. EU is not putting Russia in trouble but they are putting their own self and other countries in trouble.
They have pressurised Pakistan and Sri Lanka to vote against Russia - and when they didn't - they changed the government- what a mess going on those two countries too.

You do not quite correctly perceive the sanctions. Everyone knows that this is a "double-edged sword". And when they are introduced, they perfectly understand that the one who imposes them will also have a partial negative effect. BUT. In today's situation, sanctions are an inoculation. An inoculation against connections with bastard "partners" who use language, oil and gas for terror. Therefore, those who impose sanctions will be uncomfortable for some time. But this is retribution for previous mistakes. But after a while, they will forever lose points of risk, such as a gas supplier-terrorist, to whom a key industry somehow unexpectedly turned out to be tied. Yes, for example, for Germany, 2023-2024 will be very difficult, and may lead to a change in the status of the "locomotive of Europe", to "well, nothing, somehow they will survive, let's express, 2 times, concern" You have to pay for all the mistakes, sometimes expensive price.
And again, BUT: But in the end, the country of the world terrorist will be reduced to the state of China's raw material appendage, and then, if you're lucky, maintain its integrity!
But if you don’t know, countries that don’t sell their interests also imposed sanctions on the terrorist country, found a way out quite easily, and they will endure the winter of 2022/2023 calmly

[Fatunad]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

No one really knows yet there were no news or information that surfaced out in talking about on whats happening internally in Russia thats why we cant really make
out presumptions whether they are on the verge of difficulties or simply just laughing and doesnt really care about sanctions and cutting off ties with other countries.
The war isnt over yet and still continuing which does indicate at least that they are holding strong despite of those sanctions or other related things against Russia.
Im not belittling this country but it is really just hard to believe that they could really withstand with this kind of situation.

[be.open]

No one really knows yet there were no news or information that surfaced out in talking about on whats happening internally in Russia thats why we cant really make
out presumptions whether they are on the verge of difficulties or simply just laughing and doesnt really care about sanctions and cutting off ties with other countries.
The war isnt over yet and still continuing which does indicate at least that they are holding strong despite of those sanctions or other related things against Russia.
Im not belittling this country but it is really just hard to believe that they could really withstand with this kind of situation.

I live in Russia and can share my opinion about Western sanctions. They have not affected everyday life in any way: food, gasoline, electricity, heating, the Internet, bank cards and other things that you encounter every day - everything is available and costs about the same as six months ago. There is no reason to panic or hysteria. The biggest discomfort from the sanctions, I personally had about coffee, in the spring it has risen sharply in price by 3-4 times, and so far the price has not returned to its previous level, you have to pay about 30% more for coffee. When Western politicians said at the beginning of spring that they dropped an economic nuclear bomb on Russia and the economy was torn to shreds, it was a lie.

As for the long-term perspective, the situation is more vague. Let's wait and see, now in any region of the world it is difficult to think far ahead.

[Lubang Bawah]

Sanction will certainly make a greater impact on the country, those who are not involved with war will feel long suffering, we must find the best solution besides sanction, and many things that can be done without having to apply sanctions as happened with many countries such as Iraq , North Korea, and so on.