Sanction isn't the right option

[DVlog]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

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[Haunebu]

You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

However, I can understand why so many countries are putting pressure on Russia in this manner since they all want the war to end asap through these sanctions.

[fiulpro]

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Therefore other than that :
- Sanctions are going to cut off the economic supply to Russia and indirectly cut off all the money that's going to the war
- I understand it's causing probelms with the people living here but at the same time it's super essential to do to show that everyone is United and supporting Ukraine
- without sanctions they cannot stop the fight, funding and there would be no basis for talks as well.

[Gozie51]

Sanctions are the best to make Putin change his mind and not to go on military forces of NATO countries or US because that will lead into WW3 and countries are being concerned and careful not to go into that plus Putin threat if there is military interception in that form. So I think cutting of finance from Putin is another way to get the fight to stop.

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Putin may not result to use that to fight Ukraine. If that is clearly proved, then the world may go after Russia. They are being careful, Putin is only using the basic military facilities to fight so far

[Vaskiy]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

[DVlog]

You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

However, I can understand why so many countries are putting pressure on Russia in this manner since they all want the war to end asap through these sanctions.

I am not supporting Nazis. I am just asking isn't there is any other alternative that we can use to punish Russia instead of putting sanctions on them. Right now Russian people don't support war with Ukraine but if they lose their economy they might hate the west as well.

[iv4n]

Sanctions are never a good decision, by no means! What more sanctions, in my opinion, are a cheap blow below the belt and that is why the consequences are much deeper and stronger! Maybe one or two generations die in the war, sanctions affect 10 or more generations! And as it usually happens, they may remove the current person from the position, but in communities, many more of them are created, maybe even worse than them, so changing one person will not solve the conflict that has been lingering for decades, even centuries!
I will repeat what I always say, you can't do bad things and expect good to happen! I no longer know who is right in this war, but does it really matter when people die!? If "people" were in power, they would find a way to agree and resolve the misunderstanding, they would be willing to compromise ... but there are no "people" in any government, they just spread fear with these kinds of conflicts so they can rule unhindered!

[Captain Corporate]

 First of all putting sanctions and the german suffering after the first world war is not the same. In one of them a whole nation works to pay off a debt owed to winners of a war and they just simply declined it, the other one is just one nation not finding buyers and friends, you can't force people to do business with you, if they don't want to then they do not want to, its not like the first one at all. Secondly, Germany didn't need to invade Poland or any other nation just because they got a bad contract after the first world war, nor did they need to kill all the jewish people, that has nothing to do with the debt, that was pure all out nazism and that is why they were bad, not because they declined to pay their debts. After all, if Russia starts to attack even more places, military power of Nato is big enough to destroy it, but now we have nuclear weapons and things could go ugly in a second, let alone having a war. We could all die because of this, lets hope that sanctions are not seen as the same way.

[adaseb]

Here is the issue with these sanctions. Many countries banned Russian oil. However not all the countries. So think about it this way. The US imports less oil from Russia, so Russia exports the same amount to some other non sanction country and then Us imports oil from another country which isn’t Russia. It completely balances itself out.

The only way these sanctions will work is if every country decides to sanction itself from Russia and it’s obviously not the case here. So this is why these sanctions won’t exactly harm the Russians if they still conduct trade with China and other countries.

[bussybuddy]

Punishment for those who make mistakes is completely right, but what kind of punishment needs to be carefully considered? The OP's reasoning is just an opinion from your point of view, when in reality it's more complicated than that. Don't think you can solve the problem with your opinion. We don't know how leaders are trying to solve this problem when a small mistake can have huge consequences, so every action needs to be calculated. I was born in a country that has experienced many invasions by big countries, so war, in my eyes, is like hell. Many people have sacrificed for us to have our lives today. The lessons of history are still there, and those with bad intentions will always be annihilated. Indeed, and indeed, I always dream of this world as one country, and we always love to help each other live happy.

[Argoo]

So far, the world community has no other effective measures, except for sanctions against the aggressor. Of course, sanctions will not stop aggression quickly, especially if a strong state turns out to be the aggressor, as in this case. I believe that under an international organization such as the UN, there should be a strong army, which should be brought in very quickly against the aggressor. Then it will be effective. Now the Russian troops, after having suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment in Ukraine, have switched to terrorizing the population. They shoot at civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, factories and all infrastructure. The international community can only look at all this, impose economic sanctions and supply weapons to Ukraine. They are afraid to join the war against the aggressor, so that the war does not develop into a third world war.
One thing is clear: the security system in the world needs to be changed, I will point out that the current one is absolutely ineffective.

[crwth]

Those countries that have been able to be superpowers can be scary to deal with; imagine what they can do, and I agree with you that sometimes, the history lesson is not enough to result in an unending cycle that would affect millions of people again. The weak will always be oppressed, and the strong will be greedy, and I think that's what's happening with small communities, imagine if it's countrywide crushing another country.

I hope there will be peace and prevent any useless death that wouldn't be good to anyone. It's always a risk, but war isn't the answer.

Sanctions that result in something would be reasonable, but do you think it can affect them entirely? I think they still can stand firmly within their ground and wouldn't have any problems with it or something.

[avikz]

Sanctions are necessary measures to stop a country from invading others because of the hefty price they would have to pay. So I won't say anything to that! However, it's hilarious to see that the sanctions are coming from such countries who are responsible for the maximum number of wars in the history of humankind. For example, UK and USA! They have initiated the maximum number of wars till date. So it's a hypocritic act all together.

I am not trying to justify war. But when you are a chain smoker, then you must not go ahead and motivate other people to quit smoking! You will then become laughing stock to the world. That's how we are seeing the sad people in the government of UK and USA who have destroyed the maximum number of population in the name of war and colonization. 

[Findingnemo]

Every country is trying to take advantage of others issue is the root cause of every wars, for example this Russia and Ukraine war started because of NATO extension so that existing super countries will have a spot on the other super power and may attack easily if needed so from Russia's perspective they are trying to save their border from other big nations.

[Kakmakr]

Well, Putin are using the sanctions as a tool to motivate his citizens to direct their blame and anger on the West. He already proclaimed that the sanctions are hurting the West more.. than it is hurting his country. (Oil prices skyrocketed and he is laughing all the way to the Bank as a result of that)

Also... Russia is a Communist country and they are used to poverty, so isolation from the Western cultures and luxurious goods and services, will not affect them as hard as it will other Capitalist countries.  

So... yes... The West will be blamed for everything and Putin will use that to his advantage.  

[cheezcarls]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 

[Findingnemo]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 

Actually what West countries wanted is Russia to be the next North Korea not the next China because it is going to be a blow for those countries as well because China the biggest exporter of most goods in the world and now Russia who is biggest exporter of Natural gas to the world.

[palle11]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 

Putin is very much aware of the sanctions coming to Russia but he is known to be a president that is very stubborn to go after what he believes is right for him and not considering the suffering on the people. I think he planned to use cryptocurrency as channel for payment as he saw rubbie would face a lot of problem but yet the situation went bad for Russia and the police is locking protesters. Russia is really committing inhumane acts.

[Obito]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

[hatshepsut93]

Russia is not a superpower. It is deeply corrupt at every level of society, it doesn't have any significant technological progress in any sphere, mostly it is just living off the remnants of its Soviet legacy. Its economy was built around exports of fossil fuels, and now the West is focused on severing this tie. Putin's war has revitalized NATO and heightened the global geopolitcal tensions, so there won't be any repeat of WWII scenario with Putin doing whatever he wants while the West trying to appease them. We're already past that. Russia won't emerge stronger, it will just get rolled back into the state it was in the early 90s.

[Freeesta]

For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.

[Yogee]

For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.

Even a big and powerful country like Russia will fall eventually even of they are rich in natural resouces when they do not have trade partners. They cannot produce everything so it's important that they continue their "friendly" relationship with China and countries in the middle East.

[goaldigger]

For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.

Sanctions will still hit Russia in long term, yes they have a low cost of fuel but who will use all of them if they can’t import it on many countries? Most probably their supply will increase and its value will slowly go down. This is the best solution so far aside from a peace talk, we can’t go for a war with Russia, they will feel that sanctions sooner or later but we also have to suffer first.

[Darker45]

Well, in the first place, what are the other options? It's either the western countries will impose economic sanctions like what they are doing right now or get involved militarily or attack Russia directly or not do anything at all. I guess those are the only options on the table. And the best one I suppose is to impose economic sanctions. That's not good, of course, as innocent Russian civilians are the ones who will bear the brunt. However, that must be the most peaceful thing to do and the one option that would pressure Russia at the same time not push it to use its nuclear arsenal.

Well, if there is a way to take out Putin and his inner circle, that must be the best option with the least collateral damage.

[Marvell1]

For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.

Sanctions will not benefit anyone including the US and Nato, but sanctions will certainly not cause the Russian economy to collapse. they have stood firm over the years by previous sanctions.
Russia is the second largest oil exporter in the world and the world needs energy to sustain it. There is no way to completely block Russian supply, and China is an example of this. China will benefit if the US and the West ban oil and gas imports from Russia.

[Poker Player]

Sanctions will not benefit anyone including the US and Nato, but sanctions will certainly not cause the Russian economy to collapse. they have stood firm over the years by previous sanctions.

Do you realize that this is a fallacy? Just because something hasn't happened so far doesn't mean it will never happen.

Let's look at it with another example: since Marvell1 has not died so far, he will never die. Do you see it now?

Sanctions, just like war, are bad for everyone, and exacerbate economic problems that came from before the war, but they are an alternative tool to getting into a direct military conflict with Russia, therefore they are a lesser evil.

[raidarksword]

Economic Sanctions on Russia were necessary to condemned the attack on Ukraine soil  and this is righteous one act for other countries to join the battle over it. This is better hence provoking Russia more will result to World War III and this will become more nasty and more innocent lives will be at stake.

[Sled]

Well, if there is a way to take out Putin and his inner circle, that must be the best option with the least collateral damage.

All the countries who are against Putin voted on this option. It is possible that this Sanction will neutralize Russia's economic system pushing them to stop evading Ukraine otherwise, their economic situation will down. Although it affects the global economic growth, I believe this gonna be the best option rather than fighting them back as surely it costs more lives. Leaders can't afford to do that, it should be done in the other way and this "sanction" befoe effective as what we see.

[TheNineClub]

You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

How? By pointing out that a downed economy, poverty, and sanctions have given rise to ultranacionalism? How is that supporting the Nazis? They didn't et to power in a bubble, all of their actions had a precursor in something else. That doesn't mean ultranationalism or any other form of nationalism should be accepted nor is it justified, but it sure didn't rise up out of nowhere. The economic mistakes made after WWI, that gave rise to nationalism served as a reminder of how not to approach a defeated country and as we all know, a different approach has been taken after WWII that would assure both reparations to those who need it, but also a push to the economies of defeated countries (Germany, Japan). So saying that this is in direct support of the Nazis is just flat-out wrong and is ignoring the wider historical picture from which we can learn a great deal.

[_act_]

Russia is not a superpower. It is deeply corrupt at every level of society, it doesn't have any significant technological progress in any sphere, mostly it is just living off the remnants of its Soviet legacy. Its economy was built around exports of fossil fuels

EU is no longer willing to deal with Russia again and this is even beyond the fossil fuel imported from Russia. I have read how some products are also exported from Russia to US and Canada, all these countries with good economy are no longer willing to deal with Russia. If Russia against all these nations, sanctions will later have negative effect on Russia, a country that prefer power than citizens, a country that do not like how the Soviet Union failed to continuing existing.

[davis196]

Comparing the post-World War 1 reparations to the western sanctions against Russia seems kinda wrong to me.Refusing to do business with a country is one thing,demanding a country to pay a gazillion dollars is a completely different thing.Reparations are way worse than sanctions.
A huge part of the WW1 reparations were cancelled by the western countries,during the late 20s and early 30s,so that the German economy could recover,but the Great depression struck and the rest is history.
I don't think that the sanctions will turn the Russian people into extremists.Many people in Russia don't support the war in Ukraine.Don't believe the Putin propaganda.

 

[Reid]

It's an option to topple the economy of Russia but it doesn't mean it will be successful.
There are other countries who does need the supply of oil and look at it this way, in their country they will have the higher supply which means better economy, bills going down and gas price sinking. While us who are affected by the sanction will also sacrifice with the sudden price hikes.
Middle East will put a higher value in it because of the demand.
Again, this war is not about them because they are not the ones being affected. It is us below but they will force their egos just to prove who is the strongest.

[ChiBitCTy]

I mean I wouldn’t say that no one learns from history, that is after all the whole point of history, learning from the past. That’s at least why I’ve always loved history and studied it closely. I think trying to cripple Russia with sanctions is really all we can do at this point in time. If NATO were to try and fight back at all, that would assuredly start World War III. Then China gets involved and we probably all will die , so I think we are doubt the best we can right now without starting another war.

[Erumo]

For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.

Yeah, they will build their own "blackjack and hookers". But first they will need to get out from stone age they will stuck for ages. What whole world would have next decade? AI everywhere? Russia will have their own AI, to bad it will ride on the rails only. And you need a wagon with AAA batteries to keep it working. With all respect to Russian scientists and manufacturers, they are fully dependable from the other world. And sanctions - they never help anyone.

[darewaller]

Well, Putin are using the sanctions as a tool to motivate his citizens to direct their blame and anger on the West. He already proclaimed that the sanctions are hurting the West more.. than it is hurting his country. (Oil prices skyrocketed and he is laughing all the way to the Bank as a result of that)

Also... Russia is a Communist country and they are used to poverty, so isolation from the Western cultures and luxurious goods and services, will not affect them as hard as it will other Capitalist countries.  

So... yes... The West will be blamed for everything and Putin will use that to his advantage.  

"Oh look comrades, we attacked an innocent nation that never fired a gun at us, and the world is treating us badly because of it!". Lol, Putin is a known liar and a dictator, anyone who still believes a single word that he says is a person who is a traitor to the whole world and should be considered as evil as well, just like Putin.

The world is just reacting the way it suppose to, I wish they did when it was about west attacking other nations too, but they do not however that doesn't mean that whats being done to Russia is not correct. Should be done others is not a way to approach your wrong doing should be not seen by others as well.

[Gyfts]

Sanctions backfire when overused. Right now, the U.S. is going a bit overboard with their sanctions and seizing assets of anyone that might be related to Russia. The obvious result is Russia will instead do business with China and perhaps India, carrying no USD assets and switching to Yuan, among others. USD doesn't have any competitive edge that's worth using anyways. High inflation, reckless sanctions, and sporadic asset forfeitures (imagine having billions frozen just because the U.S. government wants to have a tough appearance).

[Yogee]

Economic Sanctions on Russia were necessary to condemned the attack on Ukraine soil  and this is righteous one act for other countries to join the battle over it. This is better hence provoking Russia more will result to World War III and this will become more nasty and more innocent lives will be at stake.

Better than what? Actually sending troops and military equipment to Ukraine? Yes but more and more sanctions is also pushing Putin to retaliate which is damaging the world economy. Prolonged sanctions and cornering Russia too much could eventually lead to something worse. I like what Gyfts that it would backfire when overused.

[Fortify]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

You end by saying that crippling Germany after the war was the problem - not as an attempt to stop them at the beginning of the war. These sanctions are the only alternative that the world has without declaring war on Russia and starting world war 3. Now, how Russia will be made to pay after this war is finished will be a delicate subject that could lead to the situation you describe, but they have caused untold damage and murdered thousands of Ukrainian civilians so far, so the amount of sympathy for anything Russian is tiny right now. Sadly Putin does not have anything left to lose, he is an old man who is almost dead and will happily continue this pointless war as he tries to leave on final legacy. One of his inner circle needs to put this dirty dog in a grave so we can figure out the mess left behind.

[stompix]

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.
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This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The greatest lesson in history only comes when you actually read the history books.
Just how Russians forget that between Napoleon and Hitler there was Napoleon III, Katsura Taro and Wilhelm II.

After the total meltdown during the Weimar Republic, there was a period called the golden twenties, it wasn't that debt that pushed the Nazi party in power during as the late 20s they didn't get even 3% of the votes, it was the Great Depression that triggered a world crisis which would bring them to that point.
So, the chances of history repeating are zero, because first, you have the nazi already in power in Russia, it's not the world that is experiencing a global depression, it's just Russia, and while the nazis did benefit a lot from an already industrialized Germany, all Russia has right now is...rubles.

Sanctions backfire when overused. Right now, the U.S. is going a bit overboard with their sanctions and seizing assets of anyone that might be related to Russia. The obvious result is Russia will instead do business with China and perhaps India, carrying no USD assets and switching to Yuan, among others. USD doesn't have any competitive edge that's worth using anyways.

Huawei has something to say about this. . Oh wait, they haven't anything to say since they don't matter anymore!

[Mauser]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

In my opinion the effects of sanctions on a superpower are even worse than on the smaller nations like Venezuela or North Korea. A superpower is usually strongly connected in international trade an relys on exports for the economic growth. Once many nations join in on the sanctions the trade will collapse and send the currency downwards. The lower currency makes imports more expensive, which will make force down the economy even more. In my opinion sanctions are important and should be applied, but the severity of them is a issue. The harder the sanctions the more the ordinary people are going to suffer. This might make people more radical and not change the desired politics. I would expect if you ask people in North Korea, Iran or Venezuela how they feel about the sanctions and their attitude towards the West, they will probably blame more the foreign countries than their own leaders.  

[ultrloa]

It will result to multiple effects since there are certain things will get affected in terms of economical aspect especially if the country has been sanction is also a consider a 1st world country which they can also rebut and that's what happening right now where there's a huge effect which totally hurt the global market right now. But it will really give a problem to the main country like Russia since they only have limited things to do especially when dealing their products and also their economy is totally sinking for this action imposed to them.

[Mahanton]

It will result to multiple effects since there are certain things will get affected in terms of economical aspect especially if the country has been sanction is also a consider a 1st world country which they can also rebut and that's what happening right now where there's a huge effect which totally hurt the global market right now. But it will really give a problem to the main country like Russia since they only have limited things to do especially when dealing their products and also their economy is totally sinking for this action imposed to them.

They might able to sustain for a while but we know that nothing do last forever specially if everything was cut or having no support due to those sanctions been imposed on other countries
which sooner or later they would really able to felt out those after effects and this is the consequence on what their government had done.

Some saying that this isnt the solution for the war to be stopped but these sanctions would surely hurt a lot when they do need it the most.

[Marykeller]

The kind of sanctions imposed on Russia is war sanctions due to their invasion on Ukrainian soil. Am believing that she'll grow her original capability and look towards Asia or the Middle East for patronage. Russia is no foreigner to warrants though. The UK is finding different means to destabilise the Russian economy. If China can live through warrants and flourish by it, Russia can do the same. Russia will survive the sanctions like the Germans and come out strong.

I have come to the realized that the kind of sanctions imposed on Iran and other nations are just like kindergarten sanctions compared to that of Russia

[Mometaskers]

I don't think this will work against a nuclear armed country. Case in point, North Korea. Yes, they are suffering but did that stopped them from making nukes, which is what the sanctions was hoping to achieve? No.

That's what's likely going to happen with Russia. It could eventually lead to a pull-out from Ukraine but now you've got another nuclear-armed country that China can use as a scourge against its enemies.

Do I think something should be done to stop the violence? Yes. Sanctions are a start but against a determined regime, it's far less effective than most people would think.

[Cling18]

I don't think sanctions would make the situation better. It only makes innocent people suffer and to be honest, people from other continents are also affected by these sanctions that cause economic breakdown globally. Sanctions couldn't stop Putin from invading Ukraine and it might only make the situation worse. I guess before imposing sanctions, authorities would think twice if it would have a positive impact to stop the war.

[teosanru]

Diplomatically sanctions are absolutely the right option. Not only because it persuades the people of the country to lobby the government to stop the war. But yes it's effect on the country doing the sanctions is very harsh too. Not only it weakens the overall economic condition of the country but think of that specific business who was involved in exporting the good to that country also some businesses which won't be able to complete their orders as the part which was necessary for the product couldn't be imported. But to stop the war I don't see any other peaceful option which doesn't directly kills people.

[henmark]

I mean I wouldn’t say that no one learns from history, that is after all the whole point of history, learning from the past. That’s at least why I’ve always loved history and studied it closely. I think trying to cripple Russia with sanctions is really all we can do at this point in time. If NATO were to try and fight back at all, that would assuredly start World War III. Then China gets involved and we probably all will die , so I think we are doubt the best we can right now without starting another war.

Nuclear weapons is the only reason why we should not attack Russia (and death of all the soldiers as well). I mean without nuclear weapons, it is clear that NATO could attack Russia, and even China and beat them very easily, they just have insane weapon difference.

Let me put it this way, USA spends twice more than China and Russia combined, MORE THAN DOUBLE. That should tell you how strong USA could be in case of a war and we are talking about just one nation versus the threat here, then we have all of Europe as well.

Cut down on economy, live in poverty, use all that to produce more weapons and money on everything, you end up with even more success. But, what is the result? What would you get? Maybe some American puppet at Russia? Which will lose elections as soon as possible and another Putin at the top? Are you going to topple CCP and get a capitalist elected? I doubt that. So, there is really no point in a war.

[kryptqnick]

I think the biggest mistake in op's sort of thinking is that Russia is mistakenly considered a superpower. Russia surely believes it's a superpower, and some Western countries believe that as well, but they're actually thinking of the past, of the Soviet Union that indeed posed a significant threat and had to be dealt with respectfully. Russia has a huge territory, but, economically, it's a developing country. And, militarily, 'the second strongest army in the world' turned out to be a fraction of the might they were supposed to have, thanks to disorganization and corruption, largely. So yes, sanctions will definitely work on Russia. The question is more about the time it takes till the total collapse: weeks, months, maybe a year? And for Ukraine, every day matters because every day Russia is killing many civilians.

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

Speaking of 'innocent Russian citizens', there aren't as many of those as you might think there are. In fact, according to independent polling, 70% of Russians support the war against Ukraine. Needless to say, official state polling also shows strong Russian support of the war. And if the vast majority support Putin right now, it's totally fair that they'll suffer. I'm sorry that some of those who oppose the war will suffer from it as well, but it's a war and that's just how it works.

[Smartvirus]

Sanctions are definitely the best way to go about tackling the issue on Ukraine with Russia. All these are in a bid to reck Russians economy so as to ensure Putin lacks the needed funds to finance the way but to a large extent, there is an introduction of bias in the way this sanctions are been given.

You can imagine almost every sector being sanctioned and still USA buys gas from Russia! What's that suppose to imply? Or are we to say they don't know what they are doing?

Apparently, USA understands that it's citizens would have to suffer on that part and as such, they turn a blind eye while other nations rush to sanction Russia. War is not always an easy thing and I pray peace to both nations.

[CapGelatik]

Sanctions are definitely the best way to go about tackling the issue on Ukraine with Russia. All these are in a bid to reck Russians economy so as to ensure Putin lacks the needed funds to finance the way but to a large extent, there is an introduction of bias in the way this sanctions are been given.

You can imagine almost every sector being sanctioned and still USA buys gas from Russia! What's that suppose to imply? Or are we to say they don't know what they are doing?

Apparently, USA understands that it's citizens would have to suffer on that part and as such, they turn a blind eye while other nations rush to sanction Russia. War is not always an easy thing and I pray peace to both nations.

This is what war is like in the sense that we never know what agreement there is between these countries because what we know so far is that the US has imposed sanctions on Russia but on the other hand they are still buying gas from them.
if the war continues for long I don't think this will be good not only for Ukraine but the world will be affected too,
Of course we all want peace but it won't come easy

[laredo7mm]

Sanctions are definitely the best way to go about tackling the issue on Ukraine with Russia. All these are in a bid to reck Russians economy so as to ensure Putin lacks the needed funds to finance the way but to a large extent, there is an introduction of bias in the way this sanctions are been given.

You can imagine almost every sector being sanctioned and still USA buys gas from Russia! What's that suppose to imply? Or are we to say they don't know what they are doing?

Apparently, USA understands that it's citizens would have to suffer on that part and as such, they turn a blind eye while other nations rush to sanction Russia. War is not always an easy thing and I pray peace to both nations.

Haha, you are right. USA and EU countries say we will go hard on Russia but they are still buying gas from them which is one of the main funding for Russia. Without fully cutting off Russia's funding from exporting commodities this type of sanction won't work. EU has no alternative either that they can import gas from. Syria won't give transit to Qatar to export gas through the pipeline. That means Russia is the only option left no matter what they do.

[Etranger]

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

There is no such thing right now as innocent russian citizens. Most russian support the war agains Ukraine
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/not-just-putin-most-russians-support-the-war-in-ukraine/

You can also check their own polls here https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2022/02/28/911382-68-rossiyan-podderzhivayut

Those, who seems not being supportive of criminal actions, also guilty, and it is not even about the moral side of the issue.There is a legal term for criminal inaction, which is exactly what most of those who do not seem to support putin are doing. I am grateful to those ones that are protesting and openly declaring the crimes of the russian government and population, but the number of such people is catastrophically small compared to 144 million population.

Moreover, I perceive such indicators as a total failure of the humanitarian, in particular philosophical, sphere in russia. Representatives of the humanitarian sphere are involved in the formation of public opinion. They need to be aware of what they have created. If they don't realize it, it shows their stupidity. If they are aware it shows their crimes against humanity. The people who can be called the most innocent are the small part of the critical population who, it follows, should understand why such sanctions have been imposed on their country. Therefore, they must agree to the need for such a decision, if they are honest with themselves.

[GeorgeJohn]

I think souts will only make it difficult for everyone, of course the purpose of sanctions is that Russia immediately stop the war, but whether by giving a tight sanctions, innocent people have to feel pain from the sanctions? I'm sure there are still many solutions and sanctions are bad things and make new problems.

From your perspective do you think Russian will stop the war with the sanction? See what they need is serious dialogue because from the look of things Russian is trying to protect their territory, so suspending them from one way to the other will not solve the problem between them, they have to fine new resolution to stop this war, many people from different countries is been affected through the fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think souts will only make it difficult for everyone, of course the purpose of sanctions is that Russia immediately stop the war, but whether by giving a tight sanctions, innocent people have to feel pain from the sanctions? I'm sure there are still many solutions and sanctions are bad things and make new problems.

From your perspective do you think Russian will stop the war with the sanction? See what they need is serious dialogue because from the look of things Russian is trying to protect their territory, so suspending them from one way to the other will not solve the problem between them, they have to fine new resolution to stop this war, many people from different countries is been affected through the fight.

If eventually things are like that, but as we could be seeing, I think the biggest sanction they are causing the Russians is the enormous Xenophobia that is directed towards them, and this is something that will last for many years, I think the sanctions should be for the rulers without affecting the people of the people, but this works in the opposite way, incorrectly, the prohibitions are always for the people and never for the great elites and those who are really to blame for the conflicts, that in this case it is warlike and that it could have consequences because the whole world could be involved, if they are already talking about nuclear weapons it is a worldwide threat.

[Gozie51]

If eventually things are like that, but as we could be seeing, I think the biggest sanction they are causing the Russians is the enormous Xenophobia that is directed towards them, and this is something that will last for many years, I think the sanctions should be for the rulers without affecting the people of the people, but this works in the opposite way, incorrectly, the prohibitions are always for the people and never for the great elites and those who are really to blame for the conflicts, that in this case it is warlike and that it could have consequences because the whole world could be involved, if they are already talking about nuclear weapons it is a worldwide threat.

Yes one way or the other,war always affect the poor people that ordinarily won't wish for war because the consequences will be enormous from restrictions of movement and scarcity of food and medicine that is threat to live. The Ukraine elites for example are still enjoying freedom and free movement like the minister that Biden had meeting in Warsaw. I have not heard that the Ukraine cabinet member or Zelensky's family lost a member, so it is always the poor that suffers during war. Biden has promised to give more support to Ukraine and threatening to come hard on Russia if they introduce nuclear weapon.

[Silberman]

You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

However, I can understand why so many countries are putting pressure on Russia in this manner since they all want the war to end asap through these sanctions.

I think the same, the sanctions are not a perfect solution but they are the best alternative the US has, since the only other option is a direct confrontation with Russia which will mean WW3, which is something no one really wants, in fact the argument from the one that started this thread is in fact an argument in favor of the sanctions, after WW2 Germany was so devastated that it took it decades to recover and an even longer amount of time for the reunification of Germany, so I doubt Putin will take the same path as the Nazi party as he should know what will happen to him if he tries.

[Tahsin Kabir Kollol]

In fact, sanctions are not the right thing to do. Because through this both sides are harmed. Different types of sanctions are imposed in order to put pressure on each other economically and politically in the face of different types of conflicts and as a result, people all over the world suffer. Considering the current situation, it is seen that some countries are raising the prices of essential commodities including oil and gas by imposing various kinds of sanctions to achieve their interests, which is causing extreme suffering to the people of the least developed and developing countries. Therefore, it can be said that sanctions are not the right solution to any problem.

[dothebeats]

Not the right thing but the only way to harm Russia and be forced to stop this war without escalating it in a global tension. Innocent Russians are harmed by this, yes, but if this is not done, Russia will just continue what its doing like it's just another Monday for them.

The West can always retaliate with bombs and nukes, but that doesn't really help does it? The world needs Russia for its oil and Russia needs buyers for its product, so why not bleed out Russia's options on where to sell first until they realize that they can't fund this invasion any further?

[DanWalker]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

In my opinion the effects of sanctions on a superpower are even worse than on the smaller nations like Venezuela or North Korea. A superpower is usually strongly connected in international trade an relys on exports for the economic growth. Once many nations join in on the sanctions the trade will collapse and send the currency downwards. The lower currency makes imports more expensive, which will make force down the economy even more. In my opinion sanctions are important and should be applied, but the severity of them is a issue. The harder the sanctions the more the ordinary people are going to suffer. This might make people more radical and not change the desired politics. I would expect if you ask people in North Korea, Iran or Venezuela how they feel about the sanctions and their attitude towards the West, they will probably blame more the foreign countries than their own leaders.  

Not really, the impact of sanctions will depend on each country's response strategy. Venezuela, Iran and North Korea are small countries and they don't have many relationships with other countries, so the impact is quite heavy. But with the case of Russia, I think things will be different because they are a superpower with a large army, abundant natural resources and they have a very good relationship like with China and India.

Sanctions will have an impact on the economy, but they already have the necessary contingency plans in place, so it is difficult to say whether the Russian economy will collapse like Venezuela. In addition to self-reliance I believe that with close relations, China will not abandon Russia.

[Xampeuu]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

In my opinion the effects of sanctions on a superpower are even worse than on the smaller nations like Venezuela or North Korea. A superpower is usually strongly connected in international trade an relys on exports for the economic growth. Once many nations join in on the sanctions the trade will collapse and send the currency downwards. The lower currency makes imports more expensive, which will make force down the economy even more. In my opinion sanctions are important and should be applied, but the severity of them is a issue. The harder the sanctions the more the ordinary people are going to suffer. This might make people more radical and not change the desired politics. I would expect if you ask people in North Korea, Iran or Venezuela how they feel about the sanctions and their attitude towards the West, they will probably blame more the foreign countries than their own leaders.  

Not really, the impact of sanctions will depend on each country's response strategy. Venezuela, Iran and North Korea are small countries and they don't have many relationships with other countries, so the impact is quite heavy. But with the case of Russia, I think things will be different because they are a superpower with a large army, abundant natural resources and they have a very good relationship like with China and India.

Sanctions will have an impact on the economy, but they already have the necessary contingency plans in place, so it is difficult to say whether the Russian economy will collapse like Venezuela. In addition to self-reliance I believe that with close relations, China will not abandon Russia.

I think that the successive sanctions from the US so far have not made Putin's guts shrink. From that consideration, I think Russia already has alternative solutions to overcome various tests from western countries. just like the second world war, i think russia will remain strong as opponent of US in this world. We know that China is a country with an industrial sector that dominates the world, and of course it will not happen like Venezuela

[Freeesta]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Many Russian people support their president and they are not ashamed that they are Russian. This country has gone through great trials and wars. People did not live very richly, but lived in abundance. The sanctions are hitting every country in Europe. Their effect will be felt not only by Russians, but by every person in the world. Now is a difficult time for everyone.

[wozzek23]

Not the right thing but the only way to harm Russia and be forced to stop this war without escalating it in a global tension. Innocent Russians are harmed by this, yes, but if this is not done, Russia will just continue what its doing like it's just another Monday for them.

The West can always retaliate with bombs and nukes, but that doesn't really help does it? The world needs Russia for its oil and Russia needs buyers for its product, so why not bleed out Russia's options on where to sell first until they realize that they can't fund this invasion any further?

I think the only country that is allowed right now to transact for Russia is china and India?
Because, recently India have made a purchased of oil from Russia at a discounted rate but India have already warned by the U.S. That should be the last transaction that they will do but what about china?

They better stop this country too because Russia can continue to sell goods and they can have funds again that they can use for war purposes. The world needs Russia for its oil but why will they continue with the sanctions?

Anyway, there are still countries which we can get oil but their supply might not be as huge as on what Russia have.

[macson]

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

Russia's strongest weapon is the "natural gas and oil" they have.  west may continue to impose sanctions on Russia but will they be able to put up with high and increasingly difficult oil and gas prices?  here the price of oil has almost tripled from before the Russian invasion to ukraine, this really sucks!

[Smitty Werben Man Jensen]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Many Russian people support their president and they are not ashamed that they are Russian. This country has gone through great trials and wars. People did not live very richly, but lived in abundance. The sanctions are hitting every country in Europe. Their effect will be felt not only by Russians, but by every person in the world. Now is a difficult time for everyone.

I don't think so because at that time there were some people who were against what Putin was doing and protested to stop the war but instead they were arrested by the police.
so I mean that means there are still a lot of people who don't support Putin in this regard about the war on Ukraine and with that happening they're scared and it's better to just keep quiet,
when it comes to sanctions it looks like Russia is already preparing for this and we'll see what happens next

[Alisha-k]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

Putin should know already that his invasion will result to sanctions. The whole invasion was too impromptu and there was obviously nothing Valensky could do other than seek help from neighboring countries, and since Ukraine weren't prepared all the can settle for at the moment is a peace talk

[Kemarit]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Many Russian people support their president and they are not ashamed that they are Russian. This country has gone through great trials and wars. People did not live very richly, but lived in abundance. The sanctions are hitting every country in Europe. Their effect will be felt not only by Russians, but by every person in the world. Now is a difficult time for everyone.

I don't think so because at that time there were some people who were against what Putin was doing and protested to stop the war but instead they were arrested by the police.

What do you expect from a authoritarian regime?

so I mean that means there are still a lot of people who don't support Putin in this regard about the war on Ukraine and with that happening they're scared and it's better to just keep quiet,
when it comes to sanctions it looks like Russia is already preparing for this and we'll see what happens next

I believed that there are a lot of Russians who doesn't agree with Putin's decision to declare war. But he is in power, if the people will have the guts to overthrow him but they can't because they are all afraid of him.

Nevertheless, they know that the sanctions is coming, so there should be no debate whether it's right or wrong. Sooner or later the US will react with this kind of actions.

[savetheFORUM]

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Therefore other than that :
- Sanctions are going to cut off the economic supply to Russia and indirectly cut off all the money that's going to the war
- I understand it's causing probelms with the people living here but at the same time it's super essential to do to show that everyone is United and supporting Ukraine
- without sanctions they cannot stop the fight, funding and there would be no basis for talks as well.

I have also worried about whether Russia would decide to start making use of nuclear weapons for the war. But, I really hope that they wouldn't resort to that and will just quit from the actions that they are taking now so that there will be peace.

There are already so many innocent civilians that have suffered because of the war. so many innocent civilians have lost their lives, this is not the way to go and it will be best that Russians end the attack on Ukraine and go for Peace instead. Most times it is not advisable to fight fire with fire. Sanction definitely seems like a better move to go with than any other thing. and like you have said with the sanctions that have been imposed on them, it would cut off most of the finance that they are using to fund the war.

[Oasisman]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

What affects the government affects the people. What economic sanctions do you have in mind that will only allow the government to suffer but not the people?
Because as far as we're talking about a country 's economy, we're basically talking about everyone in that specific country's people's basic living.
Ukraine on the other hand was about to equip themselves with more protection from other countries If they have successfully joined forces with NATO, but Russia was more ready before that happens. That wasn't an immediate decision from Putin, that actually takes long time before he have decided, he could've actually done this a bit early, when the first time Ukraine showed interest with NATO to accomplish full freedom from Russia.

[andulolika]

The sanctions are a blessing, all the overpriced garbage they not spending on. The sanctions also make me laugh, quite a bit.

[AmoreJaz]

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

What affects the government affects the people. What economic sanctions do you have in mind that will only allow the government to suffer but not the people?
Because as far as we're talking about a country 's economy, we're basically talking about everyone in that specific country's people's basic living.
Ukraine on the other hand was about to equip themselves with more protection from other countries If they have successfully joined forces with NATO, but Russia was more ready before that happens. That wasn't an immediate decision from Putin, that actually takes long time before he have decided, he could've actually done this a bit early, when the first time Ukraine showed interest with NATO to accomplish full freedom from Russia.

the people are the ones who will suffer from these sanctions, unfortunately. the burden in terms of rising prices will be the problem of ordinary people. but for most of these rich people, they won't be bothered by the rising prices. sanction after sanction for now is the only option that they know to punish the move of Russia towards Ukraine. as they can't stop Putin or know what he's planning of, the only way to suffer them economically is to put sanctions on them.

[Franctoshi]

Sanctions is indeed the right option taken by US on Russia , because I see no other way better than that to weaken their hands and stop them from fighting Ukraine , it is much more better than going into Ukraine to help them fight Russia because it would have even caused more problem and even to extent of leading to world war 3 that everyone was talking about.

[BuNga_cute]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Many Russian people support their president and they are not ashamed that they are Russian. This country has gone through great trials and wars. People did not live very richly, but lived in abundance. The sanctions are hitting every country in Europe. Their effect will be felt not only by Russians, but by every person in the world. Now is a difficult time for everyone.

I don't think so because at that time there were some people who were against what Putin was doing and protested to stop the war but instead they were arrested by the police.
so I mean that means there are still a lot of people who don't support Putin in this regard about the war on Ukraine and with that happening they're scared and it's better to just keep quiet,
when it comes to sanctions it looks like Russia is already preparing for this and we'll see what happens next

It's true that not all Russians agree with what Putin is doing, but because the Russian government acted decisively against their citizens who
protested, so in the end a lot of people in Russia chose silence. In fact, if a survey is conducted, I am very optimistic that more people will reject
what Putin has done. I say that, because most civilians just want peace. Moreover, the impact of this war made Russia get a lot of sanctions from
many countries. In the end, the Russians themselves were harmed, such as Russian businessmen who have assets in America and NATO countries
whose assets are frozen. As for the Russian government itself, everything has been prepared, so the sanctions they received did not stop them
from war. I don't think sanctioning Russia is an effective way to stop the war, negotiating is the best way to go. Because if this war is prolonged,
civilians from both countries will suffer.

[uneng]

Sanctions is indeed the right option taken by US on Russia , because I see no other way better than that to weaken their hands and stop them from fighting Ukraine , it is much more better than going into Ukraine to help them fight Russia because it would have even caused more problem and even to extent of leading to world war 3 that everyone was talking about.

True. The world tried to solve the issue with Russia through diplomacy, but it failed, so sanctions were the next step in order to stop Putin. I hope it works, so further measures won't be needed to be taken against Russia.

On the other hand, I fear sanctions might not be enough, leading to the final alternative you mentioned and everyone is worried about.

[AicecreaME]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Many Russian people support their president and they are not ashamed that they are Russian. This country has gone through great trials and wars. People did not live very richly, but lived in abundance. The sanctions are hitting every country in Europe. Their effect will be felt not only by Russians, but by every person in the world. Now is a difficult time for everyone.

Sadly, you are right. Based on the poll surveys, most of the Russian citizens are in favor of their president's decision in invading Ukraine. I don't really understand why, because it's such a cruel act when it could be done in a diplomatic way instead of addressing it in an aggressive manner. And with this, yes, I guess the only way is to impose sanctions so that they would have no other choice but to raise the white flag and have some peace talks. I really do hope that this would happen because war makes no sense. Those people who benefit are just the elites and most people, particularly the innocent ones end up suffering and dying.

If the sanctions would continue, Russia's power could be limited because of limited resources and movement. This way, their fighting power would somehow weaken.

[Pujangga]

Sanctions will only cause big problems and humanity in the long run, I'm sure many Russians don't agree with the war but it's a sad thing because they have to accept the consequences of their government's invasion of Ukraine.

[Silberman]

Not the right thing but the only way to harm Russia and be forced to stop this war without escalating it in a global tension. Innocent Russians are harmed by this, yes, but if this is not done, Russia will just continue what its doing like it's just another Monday for them.

The West can always retaliate with bombs and nukes, but that doesn't really help does it? The world needs Russia for its oil and Russia needs buyers for its product, so why not bleed out Russia's options on where to sell first until they realize that they can't fund this invasion any further?

Even if the sanctions are being sold as a way to try to stop this war, if we are being realistic there is nothing that will stop Putin to try to get what he wants out of this war, the sanctions are really meant to weaken Russia economically to the point they cannot engage in another campaign like this one anytime soon against another country, so this will buy time to those other countries to either join NATO and if not to at least buy US armament to protect themselves in the case of a future conflict with Russia.

[Etranger]

since Ukraine weren't prepared all the can settle for at the moment is a peace talk

Yeah, an absolutely unprepared country can hold back the world's second army for 34 days right now. I wonder, if we were preparing, would we become the world's first army?

[Markinzo]

No level of sanctions can make Putin bow down from his intent as far as Europe and NATO nation's still play the dependency role on the Russian gas for their energies in their various nation's.

Many sanctions here and there only because they just want an end to this unscrupulous war and not that their sanctions can actually cripple Russia economy.  No amount of sanctions actually could drastically affect the Russian's economy in that there are other nations that are ready to trade and do business with Russia amid this war.

Remember, national interest is cardinal in the globe.

[Joshapat]

since Ukraine weren't prepared all the can settle for at the moment is a peace talk

Yeah, an absolutely unprepared country can hold back the world's second army for 34 days right now. I wonder, if we were preparing, would we become the world's first army?

Whenever you have to be ready to become a soldier, at this time there is no guarantee that the country will be safe, tensions between countries continue to increase even within the country there are also frequent riots caused by many things such as economics, politics and so on, and the presence of cryptocurrencies is certainly a good solution for save assets so that they will be useful in the event of war.

[Wexnident]

Even if the sanctions are being sold as a way to try to stop this war, if we are being realistic there is nothing that will stop Putin to try to get what he wants out of this war, the sanctions are really meant to weaken Russia economically to the point they cannot engage in another campaign like this one anytime soon against another country, so this will buy time to those other countries to either join NATO and if not to at least buy US armament to protect themselves in the case of a future conflict with Russia.

The Sanctions were supposed to be a way for Putin to change his mind. Maybe a method to persuade him to back off or maybe give him a way out imo. But since Putin was pretty much sure that he was pushing with the war, the sanctions only served to actually hit the citizens of Russia instead of Putin, which lead to the damage not really hitting Putin that much. I guess they have to push out more stricter sanctions imo, one that would inevitably hit them for a long time to make Putin do a double take on what he's actually doing (which I really doubt, but hey, it wouldn't hurt to try).

[jeha2015]

Whenever you have to be ready to become a soldier, at this time there is no guarantee that the country will be safe, tensions between countries continue to increase even within the country there are also frequent riots caused by many things such as economics, politics and so on, and the presence of cryptocurrencies is certainly a good solution for save assets so that they will be useful in the event of war.

while traditional financial system disturb due war which is not allowed or suspend payment betwen countries, cryptocurrency could break this wall. even between citizen in conflict countries still could maket transaction without known by their government. bitcoin and other cryptocurrency were bordless, we can make transaction to people around the world no matter political or economic condiition.

[ningrum]

Whenever you have to be ready to become a soldier, at this time there is no guarantee that the country will be safe, tensions between countries continue to increase even within the country there are also frequent riots caused by many things such as economics, politics and so on, and the presence of cryptocurrencies is certainly a good solution for save assets so that they will be useful in the event of war.

while traditional financial system disturb due war which is not allowed or suspend payment betwen countries, cryptocurrency could break this wall. even between citizen in conflict countries still could maket transaction without known by their government. bitcoin and other cryptocurrency were bordless, we can make transaction to people around the world no matter political or economic condiition.

Indeed, with current conditions where there is still a war between Russia and Ukraine, cryptocurrency is a solution for transactions around the world, including areas affected by war.
I think this is the benefit of crypto and we should use it well to help citizens who are victims

[nur rochid]

Economic factors became the foremost calculation when war broke out, especially food for civilians. Of course, with the occurrence of war there will be a decline in the level of the economy, for countries that are not ready to be independent, of course, the people will become victims. on the other hand, of course, many people will seek security for their assets. this aims to anticipate the continuation of his life after the war is over, because the material is physically damaged. therefore this is where the role of cryptocurrency is very helpful for that, because it is driven by all countries in the world, so crypto will not be greatly affected due to the war that occurred between the two countries.

[jaberwock]

The Sanctions were supposed to be a way for Putin to change his mind. Maybe a method to persuade him to back off or maybe give him a way out imo. But since Putin was pretty much sure that he was pushing with the war, the sanctions only served to actually hit the citizens of Russia instead of Putin, which lead to the damage not really hitting Putin that much. I guess they have to push out more stricter sanctions imo, one that would inevitably hit them for a long time to make Putin do a double take on what he's actually doing (which I really doubt, but hey, it wouldn't hurt to try).

Are we sure about that? I feel like it was more about how citizens would be getting worse, and oligarchs would get poorer, so they would all get together and find a way to depose Putin. I mean at the very least just do not let him do election fraud and you will get rid of him. Everyone knows that without election fraud he would have been gone many many years ago, over a decade ago.

The only reason why he is still ruling the nation is the fact that he is capable of stealing elections and many fair third party organizations that checked the elections have said that it was not a fair election at all. This is why sanctions were put, to make sure that everyone hates him.

[tvplus006]

Various countries that support sanctions themselves incur losses, but they understand that this is a payment for democracy, which cannot be obtained for free. Only while the payback for some is the decline of the economy, Ukraine, in addition to the destroyed economy, is also forced to pay with the blood of its citizens.

[DrBeer]

The example of Germany after the First World War is somewhat unobjective - the structure of the world, the world economy, the positions of countries - were very different from the current situation.
The best example is the imposition of sanctions and the collapse of the USSR. I personally found it, and saw how it ended. And here it is very important to compare the situation and the possibilities of the economy of the USSR and modern Russia. The problem is that the economy of the USSR was objectively stronger and for the most part self-sufficient. It could work in isolation for quite a long time, produce a significant part of the necessary products, services, and technologies. No, the USSR was not the most powerful world leader, but they had an economy that would allow (without sanctions), but in isolation to continue working for a long time. The economy of modern Russia is based on raw materials, and Russia itself, today, is a technologically backward country, dependent on the technologies of the West. It is unlikely that you will be able to prove the opposite. It is enough to look at the level of problems that arose in Russia JUST A month after the imposition of sanctions, the situation seems to indicate that such steps have a very strong, negative impact on the Russian economy. At the moment, Russia has some financial inertia and reserves left that will allow it to stay "afloat" for some time. But the loss of the hydrocarbon market, global isolation, and dependence on technology in almost all sectors of the economy, very soon (3-6 months from the current date), will lead, if not to a collapse, then to a significant drop in the level and quality of the economy.

[Pejoh Asu]

I'm sure if the survey shows that the majority of the Russian population does not like war, if sanctions are imposed it will kill many innocent people, the best thing when there is war is to immediately stop the war and ask war leaders to be aware and care about humanity. If sanctions are imposed, the country affected by sanctions will experience difficulties and even create new, more complicated problems.

[Oasisman]

I'm sure if the survey shows that the majority of the Russian population does not like war, if sanctions are imposed it will kill many innocent people, the best thing when there is war is to immediately stop the war and ask war leaders to be aware and care about humanity. If sanctions are imposed, the country affected by sanctions will experience difficulties and even create new, more complicated problems.

If talking was just so easy we couldn't have seen too many wars going on, even minor wars from different countries, not to mention the 2 major world war before.
Of course Russian people who has been heavily affected financially would not want the war to happen in the first place, but I don't think "majority" of them were. However, I guess Russia seems more than ready for the series of economic sanctions that's going to be imposed to them before they've made the attack.

[ningrum]

I'm sure if the survey shows that the majority of the Russian population does not like war, if sanctions are imposed it will kill many innocent people, the best thing when there is war is to immediately stop the war and ask war leaders to be aware and care about humanity. If sanctions are imposed, the country affected by sanctions will experience difficulties and even create new, more complicated problems.

Actually in human conscience they do not like violence which in the present case is war between Russia and Ukraine,
I don't think it will be easy to ask the leaders to stop the war they also have an inviolable decision,
in this case I think Russia already has a plan to overcome the sanctions

[Etranger]

Various countries that support sanctions themselves incur losses, but they understand that this is a payment for democracy, which cannot be obtained for free. Only while the payback for some is the decline of the economy, Ukraine, in addition to the destroyed economy, is also forced to pay with the blood of its citizens.

Thank you for emphasizing that it is not only Russia that is suffering from economic decline. Ukraine's economy is in a so difficult situation due to the war, a lot of infrastructure has been destroyed, buildings, roads, mineral deposits are being ruined. It's all to the death of our people who are defending their home. Let`s not forget that the war takes place on the territory of Ukraine. Those who are worried about sanctions in russia may think that russia has at least something to start growing anew. While Ukraine already has no foundation in many issues due to constant rocket attacks, air strikes and shelling.

https://english.news.cn/europe/20220330/ae7fbafe90944f46b67fd3fa96c4d013/c.html

[Silberman]

since Ukraine weren't prepared all the can settle for at the moment is a peace talk

Yeah, an absolutely unprepared country can hold back the world's second army for 34 days right now. I wonder, if we were preparing, would we become the world's first army?

If you read anything about war tactics and strategy you will realize that the defender always has an advantage over the attacker, there are several reasons for this as they know the terrain better than the invaders, they can set up all kind of traps to delay the advancement of their opponents, and even more importantly since they are fighting for something tangible like their families and friends this makes them fight way harder than the invader army, so while without a doubt what the Ukrainian army and their volunteers are achieving is impressive, at the same time it is not as if it was impossible to foresee their great performance during this war.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

Russia's strongest weapon is the "natural gas and oil" they have.  west may continue to impose sanctions on Russia but will they be able to put up with high and increasingly difficult oil and gas prices?  here the price of oil has almost tripled from before the Russian invasion to ukraine, this really sucks!

I think that the sanctions have already missed their purpose, so much so that they have affected countries that have nothing to do with the conflict, all of Europe is beginning to see the attics of this.

Sanctions are good, they have their purpose, but I think that the way they began to do it is not correct, that is, the USA swept the way to get RUSSIA away from everything, and this resulted in an increase in the proportion of the war , also that the oil market increased very quickly, gas being so useful for everyone has these levels of scarcity, I think that the sanctions are not having the correct effect or at least the expected one.

[Etranger]

I think that the sanctions are not having the correct effect or at least the expected one.

There is much debate about whether sanctions have the same effect as were supposed before they were imposed. But the undisputed fact remains that russia is just running out of money, which is very good. They can shout as much as they want that they have the best army, but when there is no money for daily needs and store shelves becomes empty, it is somehow difficult to think about financing the creation of new tanks and missiles.

[Fortify]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

Outside of military force, sanctions are often the only way to attempt to influence countries but it's questionable how effective they are over the long term. At the beginning they seem to have quite an effect, as people see their living standards drop over the initial first months and years. However if we look at Iran, while they are much poorer than they might otherwise be, they have learned to live with sanctions and it might shock you to see how beautiful & modern some of their biggest cities look. We also live in a world where countries like China are willing to step in and otherwise undermine the effectiveness of such sanctions, but there also needs to be a cut off point where you accept they have not achieved them aim and that their might be bigger enemies than the one you've sanctioned.

[tbterryboy]

So what else would you have suggested that the world should do apart from sanction?
Do you have a better option than what is being done already? Would have been good if you stated your own opinion on what would have been done instead of placing sanctions on Russia.

As for me I believe that this action is a good move as that would cripple their economy. and the reason that this sanction was placed on Russia is because that the world wanted them to end the war, and they were warned beforehand. But, since they have decided to go ahead and attack Ukraine the world then decided to place sanction on them as a way to cripple their economy and also force them to give up.

[breathlessz]

I think that the sanctions are not having the correct effect or at least the expected one.

There is much debate about whether sanctions have the same effect as were supposed before they were imposed. But the undisputed fact remains that russia is just running out of money, which is very good. They can shout as much as they want that they have the best army, but when there is no money for daily needs and store shelves becomes empty, it is somehow difficult to think about financing the creation of new tanks and missiles.

Relations between Russia and China are getting better during times of war like this, so I think from an economic point of view, Russia has calculated the risks, especially since we know that China is very strong in terms of the economy. There are daily necessities in stores, almost there are products from China, even the products are almost needed all over the world. besides that china is also willing to buy oil from russia on the last news i saw

[romero121]

I think that the sanctions are not having the correct effect or at least the expected one.

There is much debate about whether sanctions have the same effect as were supposed before they were imposed. But the undisputed fact remains that russia is just running out of money, which is very good. They can shout as much as they want that they have the best army, but when there is no money for daily needs and store shelves becomes empty, it is somehow difficult to think about financing the creation of new tanks and missiles.

Relations between Russia and China are getting better during times of war like this, so I think from an economic point of view, Russia has calculated the risks, especially since we know that China is very strong in terms of the economy. There are daily necessities in stores, almost there are products from China, even the products are almost needed all over the world. besides that china is also willing to buy oil from russia on the last news i saw

Russia tries to bypass the sanctions from the Western nations. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov have been making visits to different countries to make talks on import and export. Initially he made talks with China and it looks like China is ready to import and export from Russia. Then it is India, based on the talks foreign minister Sergey Lavrov have said Russia is ready to provide anything India needs from Russia and no country will oppose the process as India is involved. For some time period Russia is in a situation to depend on Asian countries, because Western Nations won't easily take back the sanctions.

[bitgolden]

As we have seen it is very unlikely that Russia will be apologizing to the West. I think that they might start looking for a way to get over everything that has happened and try to fix their economy. Begging for mercy might not be an option for them, from the look of things. So, what they would do is just to look for a solution, which I believe that they are already doing that.

As for the West imposing a sanction on Russia, I do not know whether to say if it is a bad decision or not, because I don’t really know any other way that they would have gone about stopping Russia from invading Ukraine. So I believe that they did what they think is right for them to do. Let’s see how things turns out to be.

[Shasha80]

As we have seen it is very unlikely that Russia will be apologizing to the West. I think that they might start looking for a way to get over everything that has happened and try to fix their economy. Begging for mercy might not be an option for them, from the look of things. So, what they would do is just to look for a solution, which I believe that they are already doing that.

As for the West imposing a sanction on Russia, I do not know whether to say if it is a bad decision or not, because I don’t really know any other way that they would have gone about stopping Russia from invading Ukraine. So I believe that they did what they think is right for them to do. Let’s see how things turns out to be.

Russia which has experience receiving previous economic sanctions, which in 2014 Russia had been sentenced to economic sanctions for invading
the Crimean peninsula in Eastern Europe. Since then Russia has started to gradually reduce the use of dollars, including Russia's foreign
exchange reserves in the form of dollars, which have declined considerably.

According to research I have read, economic sanctions also only work around 34%, meaning that economic sanctions can indeed affect Russia's
economic conditions, but economic sanctions have not succeeded in changing the behavior of the Russian state. In other words, imposing
economic sanctions on Russia is not the right and effective step. Because it was proven that economic sanctions did not stop Russia from
invading Ukraine. Western countries should consider other effective ways, but because all countries in the world are currently still trying to recover
the economy from the negative impact of the pandemic. I understand why this time America and NATO prefer low-cost methods such as
criticizing, provide economic sanctions and encourage negotiation efforts. Compared to concrete steps, such as sending NATO troops to directly
support Ukraine which may be more effective.

[sana54210]

As we have seen it is very unlikely that Russia will be apologizing to the West. I think that they might start looking for a way to get over everything that has happened and try to fix their economy. Begging for mercy might not be an option for them, from the look of things. So, what they would do is just to look for a solution, which I believe that they are already doing that.

As for the West imposing a sanction on Russia, I do not know whether to say if it is a bad decision or not, because I don’t really know any other way that they would have gone about stopping Russia from invading Ukraine. So I believe that they did what they think is right for them to do. Let’s see how things turns out to be.

It would be a horrible move for them to beg for mercy and try to stop the war and try to get the sanctions off. Putin is not that kind of guy, but no nation should do that to begin with.

It was a horrible move to attack another nation, in 2022 we shouldn't really see these acts anymore, but if you attacked, and then everyone reacted, you can't just back off, it would make you look weak and then they will do whatever they want to do with the threat of the same thing. ow that they are doing a bit better economically, it means that the west can't really threaten Russia with anything anymore. Russia got the better hand this time around unfortunately.

[jaberwock]

There is much debate about whether sanctions have the same effect as were supposed before they were imposed. But the undisputed fact remains that russia is just running out of money, which is very good. They can shout as much as they want that they have the best army, but when there is no money for daily needs and store shelves becomes empty, it is somehow difficult to think about financing the creation of new tanks and missiles.

Yeah, people do not care about having the highest military or whatsoever, the most important thing to them is having a good economy and enough food for everyone to be healthy. If their economy should continue to go down, and things continues to be difficult in the country, a lot of people might start lashing out at their government, and they would start requesting that the government should look into making peace and bringing things back to order as it were before.

The sanction that has been imposed on Russia has affected a lot of individuals, and I believe that those individuals wouldn’t be happy right now due to what has happened.

[CryptoBuds]

So what else would you have suggested that the world should do apart from sanction?
Do you have a better option than what is being done already? Would have been good if you stated your own opinion on what would have been done instead of placing sanctions on Russia.

As for me I believe that this action is a good move as that would cripple their economy. and the reason that this sanction was placed on Russia is because that the world wanted them to end the war, and they were warned beforehand. But, since they have decided to go ahead and attack Ukraine the world then decided to place sanction on them as a way to cripple their economy and also force them to give up.

^ If there was no such thing as sanctions in the world, then the countries would have been wiped out by fighting among themselves.  Not having a ban means getting a license to do whatever you want. 

Russia is acting dictatorially and Ukraine is facing a terrible war. The war may not have caused much damage to Russia, but the war in Ukraine has brought a terrible situation, and it is clear that Russia will not stop without completely crippling Ukraine.

And you know that other countries have mixed opinions about this war. Most countries do not support this war. But is Russia listening to them? No. Not even in the imagination. 

So, in my opinion, the various sanctions imposed on Russia are now a timely initiative to prevent Russian aggression.

[Ozero]

So what else would you have suggested that the world should do apart from sanction?
Do you have a better option than what is being done already? Would have been good if you stated your own opinion on what would have been done instead of placing sanctions on Russia.

As for me I believe that this action is a good move as that would cripple their economy. and the reason that this sanction was placed on Russia is because that the world wanted them to end the war, and they were warned beforehand. But, since they have decided to go ahead and attack Ukraine the world then decided to place sanction on them as a way to cripple their economy and also force them to give up.

The current military aggression by Russia, which is trying to seize Ukraine by military means, has shown the complete inability of the world community to curb the aggressor country and force it to comply with international norms. I believe that it is necessary to create a completely different world system security. It is necessary to create international armed forces that could be used at lightning speed in such cases when establishing the culprit of unleashing a military conflict. Sanctions are important, but their effect is very slow, and in some cases they are simply not effective, because there are so many loopholes to get around them.
The current sanctions against Russia, which continue to intensify, will eventually do their job. But it is necessary that all countries join them.

[Etranger]

Yeah, people do not care about having the highest military or whatsoever, the most important thing to them is having a good economy and enough food for everyone to be healthy. If their economy should continue to go down, and things continues to be difficult in the country, a lot of people might start lashing out at their government, and they would start requesting that the government should look into making peace and bringing things back to order as it were before.

The sanction that has been imposed on Russia has affected a lot of individuals, and I believe that those individuals wouldn’t be happy right now due to what has happened.

Unfortunately, those who are dissatisfied with the sanctions and feel the consequences do not draw the right conclusions. They continue to accuse the world of "unfriendliness towards russia", of russophobia andjust the fear of great russia. They do not make causal links between sanctions and the fact that their country is waging war against Ukraine. And not just war, but the destruction of the whole nation. Therefore, sanctions have only an indirect effect, they can drive russians into poverty and hunger, but they do nothing with the ideological component that has been created by russian propaganda for decades.

[Marykeller]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

[Desscount]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much,
I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly.
humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon

[sayaya17]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much,
I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly.
humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon

I also think that international sanctions are not the right choice. Because it is proven until now that Russia has not stopped
their invasion, even according to the data I read in articles on the internet, Russia is currently the country with the most
international sanctions. But Russia is not afraid of the international sanctions imposed on them. Since a country as big as Russia
must have thought about the repercussions of their invasion, so they already have a solution to overcome it. So there has to be
another way to stop what the Russians are doing, you are right diplomacy is indeed a much better way to do it. But it's not that
easy to do diplomacy, because looking at Putin's character the diplomatic path will be difficult to reach an agreement. There is
another way, namely by changing the regime in Russia, but Putin's absolutism and nuclear power run the risk of more casualties,
so still diplomacy is the best way to do it. For the safety of Ukrainian civilians, I hope this war can be stopped as soon as possible.

[roadrunnerjaiv2025]

Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.   

[Pomogator]

Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.   

You have described the problem very well. All the world's media are shouting that the war started because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine and take it for himself, but no one remembers that for several years he asked the West to refuse to join Ukraine in NATO, not to interfere in Russia's affairs. In the end, how did.

[DrBeer]

Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.   

You have described the problem very well. All the world's media are shouting that the war started because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine and take it for himself, but no one remembers that for several years he asked the West to refuse to join Ukraine in NATO, not to interfere in Russia's affairs. In the end, how did.

Ok, let's assume you're right.
Then a couple of simple questions:
1. When did Ukraine officially decide to join NATO?
2. Before that, were there NATO countries bordering Russia? If so, do they pose a threat to Russia? And why is Ukraine more dangerous for Russia?
3. What happened before - the event of the annexation of the Crimea and part of the eastern regions, or Ukraine's statement about the desire to join NATO?

[be.open]

Ok, let's assume you're right.
Then a couple of simple questions:
1. When did Ukraine officially decide to join NATO?
2. Before that, were there NATO countries bordering Russia? If so, do they pose a threat to Russia? And why is Ukraine more dangerous for Russia?
3. What happened before - the event of the annexation of the Crimea and part of the eastern regions, or Ukraine's statement about the desire to join NATO?

Okay, let's look at this story in terms of the chronology of events:

1994 February, Ukraine signed a framework agreement with NATO as part of the Partnership for Peace initiative

1995 to 2003 Ukraine and the United States annually conduct the Peace Shield exercise

1997 July, at the NATO summit in Madrid, the “Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine” was signed.

1997 July, command and staff exercises "Cooperative Neighbor-1997" were held in Yavoriv

1997, Yeltsin and Kuchma signed an agreement on the presence of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol for the next 20 years until 2017

1997 An agreement was signed between the Russian Federation and NATO on the non-deployment of NATO bases in the countries of Eastern Europe and the Baltic States of permanent bases.

1997 NATO Information and Documentation Center opened in Kyiv.

1998 a Ukrainian representative office appeared at NATO headquarters and a special military representative of Ukraine began work

1998 November, President Kuchma signed the "Program of cooperation between Ukraine and NATO for the period up to 2001"

1999 April, NATO mission opened in Kyiv.

1999 June, Ukraine supported the NATO operation in the Balkans.

1999 Ukraine-NATO summit

2000 for the first time in history, the annual meeting of NATO's main political body, the North Atlantic Council, was held in Kyiv, outside of NATO member countries,

2000 Ukraine and NATO signed the "Status of Forces Agreement"

In 2001, the training center of the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security was opened in Yavoriv, ​​Lviv region.

2002 Ukraine-NATO summit

2002 Adopted the "Individual Partnership Plan with NATO".

2002 May, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine adopted the NATO Strategy, which provided for the revision of the non-aligned status in favor of starting a process whose ultimate goal was to become a full-fledged NATO membership for Ukraine.

On July 2002, within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program, Ukraine and NATO signed a memorandum on Ukraine's support for NATO operations.

2002 November, The NATO-Ukraine Action Plan is adopted, the relationship is further strengthened, within the framework of this plan annual Ukraine-NATO Target Plans began to be developed.

In 2002, the exercises "Cooperative Adventure-2002" were held on the territory of Ukraine, which became the largest NATO exercises in the territory of the CIS countries.

Exercises with NATO have been held before. Subsequently, joint exercises with NATO became almost annual.

2003 Ukraine supported the US operation in Iraq by sending its "peacekeeping contingent" to the region[18].

2004 April, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the free access of NATO forces to the territory of Ukraine.

June 2004, in the Military Doctrine of Ukraine, a provision appeared on Ukraine's policy of Euro-Atlantic integration, the ultimate goal of which was to join NATO.

2004 July, following a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Commission, President Kuchma issued a decree stating that joining NATO was no longer the country's goal, only "a significant deepening of relations with NATO and the European Union as guarantors of security and stability in Europe" was needed.

2004 August, US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and Ukrainian President Kuchma meet in Crimea

2005 April, after the Orange "revolution" and Yushchenko came to power, a meeting of the "Ukraine-NATO" commission was held as part of an informal meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the NATO countries. Cooperation with NATO acquired the format of "Accelerated Dialogue", which was intended to be the first step towards Ukraine's entry into NATO.

2005 April, Yushchenko returned to the military doctrine of Ukraine the strategic goal of Ukraine - "full membership in NATO and the EU."

January 2006, in Budapest, following a meeting of NATO defense ministers and Ukrainian Defense Minister Hrytsenko, it was announced that these states were ready to support Ukraine's entry into NATO.

April 2006, at a meeting of NATO foreign ministers, the representative of the NATO Secretary General Appathurai said that all members of the alliance support the speedy integration of Ukraine into NATO. Russia, for its part, expressed concern about this development.

2006 September, after the government was headed by Prime Minister Yanukovych, there was a turn in Ukraine's foreign policy. Yanukovych's foreign policy statements contradicted Yushchenko's course.

2006 August, the press service of the new Ukrainian government announced that Ukraine was postponing the adoption of a "NATO membership action plan."

September 2006, Yanukovych paid a working visit to Brussels, where he made a statement about Ukraine's unpreparedness to join NATO.

2008 April, the US made significant efforts to convince its NATO allies of the need for Georgia and Ukraine to join the MAP at the alliance's Bucharest summit. This caused a complication of relations between Russia and NATO.

2008 there was a scandal, the reason for which was the statement of the NATO Secretary General that the organization had received a letter signed by the President of Ukraine, Prime Minister Tymoshenko and Parliament Speaker Yatsenyuk with a request to join Ukraine to the NATO Membership Action Plan.

2009 August, at NATO Headquarters, a Declaration was signed supplementing the Charter on a Distinctive Partnership.

2010 coming to power of Yanukovych. Non-bloc status has once again become a foreign policy priority for Ukraine. The law "On the fundamentals of domestic and foreign policy" was adopted

2010 April, Yanukovych liquidated the interdepartmental commission on preparing the country for NATO accession and the national center for Euro-Atlantic integration

April 2010, in Kharkov, Presidents Medvedev and Yanukovych signed an agreement to extend the stay of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol from 2017 to 2042. This caused indignation among the Ukrainian opposition and a brawl in the Verkhovna Rada.

2010 November, At the NATO summit, the former line on the involvement of Ukraine in the NATO Strategic Concept was consolidated

2013 February, Ukraine officially joined the NATO counter-piracy operation "Ocean Shield"

2013 November, Visit to Ukraine of the delegation of the NATO International Secretariat

2014 February, power changed in Ukraine

2014 February, visit of the delegation of the NATO Council

2014 March, Crimea was taken by Russia

2014 March, Ukrainian military delegation went to NATO Headquarters in Brussels to discuss "areas of strengthening cooperation" between Ukraine and NATO

2014 April, formation of the DNR and LNR

2014 April, a law was adopted on the admission of units of the armed forces of other states to the territory of Ukraine to participate in multinational exercises.

2014 from May to November, Ukraine is scheduled to participate in 15 NATO exercises

2014 NATO Secretary General Rasmussen at a meeting of alliance defense ministers in Brussels said that NATO remains "a sincere friend of Ukraine"

2014 December, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a bill introduced by President Poroshenko, which canceled the non-bloc status of Ukraine

2015 January, Visit of a NATO delegation to Ukraine to hold the 20th meeting of the NATO-Ukraine joint working group in Kyiv

2015 September, The military doctrine was adopted, the priority task is "deepening cooperation with NATO and achieving full compatibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the armies of NATO member countries by 2020."

2016 July, At the NATO summit, Russia was recognized as the main security threat to the alliance, and its containment was officially proclaimed the new NATO mission

2017 June, the Verkhovna Rada enshrined at the legislative level: NATO membership is one of Ukraine's foreign policy priorities

2017 July, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg opened a new organization office in Kyiv

March 2018, Ukraine received the status of a NATO postgraduate country. Poroshenko asked for a NATO membership action plan to be provided to his country.

2018 July, President Poroshenko signed the law "On the National Security of Ukraine", which will help achieve defense compatibility with NATO countries.

2018 July, in Brussels, within the framework of the NATO summit, a meeting was held in the Ukraine-Georgia-NATO format

In 2019, constitutional amendments came into force, fixing the strategic course for obtaining full membership of Ukraine in the European Union and NATO at the level of a constitutional norm

September 2019, in New York, Zelensky met with NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.

2019 October, the NATO Council and the Secretary General of the Stoltenberg Alliance visited Ukraine

2020 June, NATO granted Ukraine Enhanced Opportunities Partner status

2021 Ukraine held eight joint exercises with NATO countries

in June 2021, NATO leaders reaffirmed the decision of the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would be granted a NATO Membership Action Plan

2021 November, a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of NATO countries was held in Riga, to which the Foreign Ministers of Ukraine and Georgia were invited

2021 December, the Russian Foreign Ministry published draft agreements with the United States and NATO countries on ensuring the security of Russia and the alliance member countries. Namely, to legally consolidate NATO's refusal to further expand to the east and join the alliance of Ukraine. Kyiv considers such demands unacceptable.

2021 December, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg rejected Moscow's demands.

10 exercises with NATO members planned for 2022

[dezoel]

I feel like sanctions may not be the most perfect solution, but at the same time what else could you do, what options do you have that could help you tell Russia to stop? Europe and the USA wanted to find a way to tell Russia to back off but they didn't know how to do that, which meant that they had one option which was sanctions. They could have attacked in a military way, but that would have resulted with a bloody and risky thing, remember most of these nations have nuclear programs as well.

So, sanctions was the mildest way to tell Russia to back of and stop attacking. I am sure if there was some other way they would have done that, but even this wasn't big enough to stop them anyway.

[Kimonoe]

I feel like sanctions may not be the most perfect solution, but at the same time what else could you do, what options do you have that could help you tell Russia to stop? Europe and the USA wanted to find a way to tell Russia to back off but they didn't know how to do that, which meant that they had one option which was sanctions. They could have attacked in a military way, but that would have resulted with a bloody and risky thing, remember most of these nations have nuclear programs as well.

So, sanctions was the mildest way to tell Russia to back of and stop attacking. I am sure if there was some other way they would have done that, but even this wasn't big enough to stop them anyway.

This time, sanctions were imposed on Russia, such as weapons for America and especially for European countries, where they cannot escape their dependence on buying oil and gas from Russia. here it is clear that Russia still holds the key and the sanctions seem to have disappeared because Russia is also cooperating with China, where we know China seems to dominate the world economy for now. and I agree that diplomacy with Russia and asking to stop the war is the best way, where if they attack Russia, there seems to be no economic return, it can even be said that they will suffer losses, apart from Russia having nuclear weapons.

[DrBeer]

....
Okay, let's look at this story in terms of the chronology of events:
....

I'm all for it ! Let's !

Well then, questions to which I want to hear the answers !

1. Well, what is the list of events? Specify specifically which of these events is the fact that Ukraine filed a request to join NATO?

I will slightly dilute this list with such a fact that for some reason you decided to "forget:
- 03/07/2000 Sunday and. about. Russian President Vladimir Putin made a loud statement. In an interview with the BBC, he said that he did not rule out the possibility of Russia joining NATO. Putin said that in 2000 Russia could join NATO. In 2000, during the visit of Bill Clinton, Putin personally made a request to accept Russia into NATO.

So my question is - does this mean "NATO threat to the Russian Federation" is a fake? Or if the Russian Federation is in NATO, then it’s not a threat, but if Ukraine, in 2022, then a threat?

2. The fact that you sent a lot of text does not mean that you have proven something ... An attempt to simply shower with low-value events that do not confirm Ukraine's ENTRY into NATO BEFORE the Russian aggression, nothing more. Remember - the effectiveness of the work is not measured by the time spent, or the number of characters, it is measured by efficiency. So here the efficiency is 0

But I appreciated your attempt and I have further questions:
3. Why do you have such a selective or "leaky memory"? Well, let's go through the CHRONOLOGY, taking into account other events, shall we? For example, in 2003 - the incident on Tuzla Island, when the Russian Federation once again showed aggression and tried to seize Ukrainian territory? Forgot, correct - enter!

And why is there no attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in the list in 2014?

And where is Russia's attempt to seize the southeastern regions of Ukraine? Well, what happened to the chronology?

4. And where did the events go, where Russia was the initiator of many military conflicts with the countries of the ex-USSR?
Where the Russian Federation either provoked military conflicts or supported terrorist separatists. This will make the picture more complete. Can you help to collect these events ? Or are they like "nothing to do with"? These are full-fledged combat actions. I have not yet taken into account the various types of terrorist attacks carried out by the Russian Federation both inside and outside the Russian Federation.

- 1992 Ossetian-Ingush conflict, provoked and controlled by Russia
- 1992-1993 - Russia occupied Transnistria
- 1992-1993 - Russia provoked and supported the Abkhaz war
- 1994-1996 - The first Russian-Chechen war
- 1999 - Dagestan war
- 1999–2009 - Second Russian-Chechen war
- 2008 - Russian-Georgian war

The only thing I can admit is that Ukraine, realizing the futility of alliances with the Russian Federation (and this is the "merit" of the Russian Federation itself), was looking for new vectors for the development and restructuring of partnerships to strengthen defense capabilities, develop the economy, participate in more adequate unions than the Customs Union or the stillborn CIS. And what's wrong here?

[Doan9269]

I am just asking isn't there is any other alternative that we can use to punish Russia instead of putting sanctions on them. Right now Russian people don't support war with Ukraine but if they lose their economy they might hate the west as well.

Why do you think we instill punishment, just in other for the wronged side to receive adequate consequence of it wrong doing and when punishing someone you instill pain and hardship on such entity so as to regret taken such a wrong step, in the case of Russia, sanction is the only way the world could punish Russia except if they will engage on a III world war but what i think should be better in place is for Putin himself to face the consequences by the raised petitions against him for trial.

[Ozero]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

Putin does not accept any other conditions from Ukraine, other than its complete surrender, the renunciation of a large part of its territories, and the virtual loss of its sovereignty. The Russian military is now massively killing civilians in Ukraine, in fact, having arranged the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Therefore, the Ukrainians have no other way out than to defend their freedom and independence with arms in hand, no matter how hard the price is.
With the help of weapons donated by other countries, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already inflicted a crushing military defeat on the occupiers, so Ukraine's position is correct.

The current aggression of Russia became possible due to the insufficient rebuff of civilized states to Putin's aggressive plans earlier, when he attacked Georgia in 2008, Moldova and Ukraine in 2014. If Ukraine were now occupied by Russia, Putin would not stop there and went to the Baltic countries and Poland. Tough sanctions against Russia, this is the mildest response of civilized states in this case.

 In fact, it was more correct in such cases to send international military rapid reaction forces to the aggressor country. Then there would have been a sharp decrease in those wishing to unleash such wars of conquest.

[Cryptmuster]

Russia for many years does not allow its neighboring countries to live in peace, the multiple military conflicts listed in this topic are proof of this. And what is happening now in Ukraine is very reminiscent of what happened in Finland in 1939, russia also "saved the working class", but as it turned out, no one needed its salvation and 3 millionth Finland was able to adequately rebuff the aggressor. Because the Finnish people rallied, they defended their land and their homes, as the Ukrainians do now. Finland also received assistance from the European countries of the allies.

There are many parallels with that war, but russia does not draw any conclusions, a blind desire to revive an unnecessary empire will collapse every time. People who fight for their land, protect their homes will always win. Occupiers who come to a foreign land to loot, kill civilians and destroy their homes will always loose. Because ordinary people will join the army and it will already be a guerrilla war. The outcome of the russian-Ukrainian war has already been determined - this is the failure of all plans of russia. And now they want chop off at least a piece of land in order to frame it as a victory, but I’m not sure they will even that succeed.

[FrozenBit]

(...)

Although undesirable, we should also accept the fact that such factors affect society to help people progress and develop more, it may take time to change negative issues until people realize their own mistakes in their own lives. I was born and raised since the country went through the invasion and the period of economic development. What I felt until now, looking back on all that has happened, is that it is still a matter of control. Controlling interests brings different sides. Maybe we are living in a peaceful time, but looking back at how the big countries have treated us, they invade, control, and limit our business economy. But that also can't prevent a person's learning, obligations, and rights. Our leader expressed the view that a country that cannot shoulder everything on its own but depends on someone for a good future cannot have freedom.

[Freeesta]

Sanctions are a way to destroy or weaken a country's economy. Now we are seeing how our habitual existence is changing. I think that if after the imposed sanctions the country has not changed its course, it means they are not working. Maybe it makes sense to change tactics and try to solve the issue in a different way? What will be next? Strengthening sanctions or lifting them?

[Mahanton]

Sanctions are a way to destroy or weaken a country's economy. Now we are seeing how our habitual existence is changing. I think that if after the imposed sanctions the country has not changed its course, it means they are not working. Maybe it makes sense to change tactics and try to solve the issue in a different way? What will be next? Strengthening sanctions or lifting them?

You cant say that it wasnt working yet we arent really still able to see if they are really secretly been affected with the current sanctions if we do talk about Russia country considering that they have launched some

invasive attack or war against UK.We've seen on how other countries and services did really made out some sanctions towards it but we cant really deny that they've been hanging up despite of the condition.
Basically means that they had prepared out for such condition or scenario since the leader of that country already knows on what or on how to handle up such situation.

[Smitty Werben Man Jensen]

Sanctions are a way to destroy or weaken a country's economy. Now we are seeing how our habitual existence is changing. I think that if after the imposed sanctions the country has not changed its course, it means they are not working. Maybe it makes sense to change tactics and try to solve the issue in a different way? What will be next? Strengthening sanctions or lifting them?

If the sanctions are imposed on developing countries or small countries of course it will work,
but in the current case where it refers to Russia I don't think it will matter considering Russia is a big country with a lot of resources,
Regardless of all that, I really hope that both countries can resolve it through diplomacy or non-violent means

[bakasabo]

If someone say sanctions is the right option, I suggest them to open Russia Ruble price to EUR or USD graph. It price has returned to pre war value. I see lots of brands left Russian market, but I see no life-drama complaints about it. I see no people in tears, due to Coca-Cola or McDonalds left. But what I see is that in my countries prices has gone up, not doubled, but extremely up. I am even limited to withdrawing cash from ATM, both daily and monthly limits are lowered...

[Mauser]

If someone say sanctions is the right option, I suggest them to open Russia Ruble price to EUR or USD graph. It price has returned to pre war value. I see lots of brands left Russian market, but I see no life-drama complaints about it. I see no people in tears, due to Coca-Cola or McDonalds left. But what I see is that in my countries prices has gone up, not doubled, but extremely up. I am even limited to withdrawing cash from ATM, both daily and monthly limits are lowered...

But why would you look at the currency market as a validation for sanctions. There is almost no more trading going on. European and American banks have stopped to accept rubles or convert them. Russia has no real access to Dollars and Euros anymore. They have a lot of reserves in foreign banks, but can't access them anymore. There is no buy or selling going. That's why the currency markets don't give a real price for the Ruble. This is also why Russia is getting downgraded to partial default by the rating agency. They need to make interest payments of their bonds in dollars, but they have no access to it. They try to pay them in ruble, but not getting accepted. It's also why Russia wants gas payments in ruble and not euros or dollars. As long as sanctions hit people close to Putin and reduce the military spending its good, but if the sanctions only hit the average citizen it's not helpful I think.

[istiak2277]

If someone say sanctions is the right option, I suggest them to open Russia Ruble price to EUR or USD graph. It price has returned to pre war value. I see lots of brands left Russian market, but I see no life-drama complaints about it. I see no people in tears, due to Coca-Cola or McDonalds left. But what I see is that in my countries prices has gone up, not doubled, but extremely up. I am even limited to withdrawing cash from ATM, both daily and monthly limits are lowered...

But why would you look at the currency market as a validation for sanctions. There is almost no more trading going on. European and American banks have stopped to accept rubles or convert them. Russia has no real access to Dollars and Euros anymore. They have a lot of reserves in foreign banks, but can't access them anymore. There is no buy or selling going. That's why the currency markets don't give a real price for the Ruble. This is also why Russia is getting downgraded to partial default by the rating agency. They need to make interest payments of their bonds in dollars, but they have no access to it. They try to pay them in ruble, but not getting accepted. It's also why Russia wants gas payments in ruble and not euros or dollars. As long as sanctions hit people close to Putin and reduce the military spending its good, but if the sanctions only hit the average citizen it's not helpful I think.

Russia do not have lot of reserve in USD or EURO. They have already converted most of their USD to gold assuming this sanction from the west. Heard a news that Russia will fix  ruble price against gold and all the country has to pay in ruble or gold. Ruble already recovered from 50% correction and now it is going to be much stronger. As long as West doesn't have any other alternative than Russia for their energy sectors rubles will not fall any more if west force to pay in ruble or gold.

This sanction game proved to be a massive failure against Russia till now.

[bustabitsboy]

If someone say sanctions is the right option, I suggest them to open Russia Ruble price to EUR or USD graph. It price has returned to pre war value. I see lots of brands left Russian market, but I see no life-drama complaints about it. I see no people in tears, due to Coca-Cola or McDonalds left. But what I see is that in my countries prices has gone up, not doubled, but extremely up. I am even limited to withdrawing cash from ATM, both daily and monthly limits are lowered...

But why would you look at the currency market as a validation for sanctions. There is almost no more trading going on. European and American banks have stopped to accept rubles or convert them. Russia has no real access to Dollars and Euros anymore. They have a lot of reserves in foreign banks, but can't access them anymore. There is no buy or selling going. That's why the currency markets don't give a real price for the Ruble. This is also why Russia is getting downgraded to partial default by the rating agency. They need to make interest payments of their bonds in dollars, but they have no access to it. They try to pay them in ruble, but not getting accepted. It's also why Russia wants gas payments in ruble and not euros or dollars. As long as sanctions hit people close to Putin and reduce the military spending its good, but if the sanctions only hit the average citizen it's not helpful I think.

Russia do not have lot of reserve in USD or EURO. They have already converted most of their USD to gold assuming this sanction from the west. Heard a news that Russia will fix  ruble price against gold and all the country has to pay in ruble or gold. Ruble already recovered from 50% correction and now it is going to be much stronger. As long as West doesn't have any other alternative than Russia for their energy sectors rubles will not fall any more if west force to pay in ruble or gold.

This sanction game proved to be a massive failure against Russia till now.

I agree with you. who decides for all people how much money they receive and how to feed their families. If this is a government that is designed to protect people and create comfortable living conditions for them, then why is this not happening today? How did it happen that strangers from another country decide for me what I have for breakfast or lunch? Why are sanctions imposed that harm my family? I can't understand it.

[retreat]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

[examplens]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

perhaps nowhere is it said publicly, but the purpose of the sanctions is to make life difficult for the common people in Russia. they have been denied many things and over time, they should slowly deny support for Putin. Losing such support could weaken ^Putin's position. Unfortunately, this can be a very long process, in the meantime, big damage will be done.

[Sir Legend]

I think sanctions will make a lot of people suffer, those who don't agree with the war of course accept the consequences so this is a mistake, many things can be done to stop the war, and the most common thing is dialogue to find the best solution, if the war has already happened you should not It's easy to give sanctions because there will be many problems that follow.

[bakasabo]

If someone say sanctions is the right option, I suggest them to open Russia Ruble price to EUR or USD graph. It price has returned to pre war value. I see lots of brands left Russian market, but I see no life-drama complaints about it. I see no people in tears, due to Coca-Cola or McDonalds left. But what I see is that in my countries prices has gone up, not doubled, but extremely up. I am even limited to withdrawing cash from ATM, both daily and monthly limits are lowered...

But why would you look at the currency market as a validation for sanctions. There is almost no more trading going on. European and American banks have stopped to accept rubles or convert them. Russia has no real access to Dollars and Euros anymore. They have a lot of reserves in foreign banks, but can't access them anymore. There is no buy or selling going. That's why the currency markets don't give a real price for the Ruble. This is also why Russia is getting downgraded to partial default by the rating agency. They need to make interest payments of their bonds in dollars, but they have no access to it. They try to pay them in ruble, but not getting accepted. It's also why Russia wants gas payments in ruble and not euros or dollars. As long as sanctions hit people close to Putin and reduce the military spending its good, but if the sanctions only hit the average citizen it's not helpful I think.

There are few huge companies left to trade with, so I think EUR and USD acceptance is not a big problem. Besides, I know that Russia has enormous gold reserves in banks. In case they will be really short in currency, they might use that reserve.

I know that under current contract, my country still pay in Euros for Russian gas. I know that my country has refused to use and buy Russian petrol/oil aka used sanction option. But, "we" buy foreign petrol, mix it with Russian, making final substance to consist of 49% of Russian petrol and in the end get "Non-Russian-petrol". Can you believe in that? If we cheat with that, then I am sure someone else does same with sanctions. Everyone announce out loud they leave Russian market, but "keep a foot in door" just in case...

[bakasabo]

I've just read, that Ukraine proposed to used arrested property and funds, that got under sanctions, to spend on rebuilding destroyed cities and infrastructure. What do you think about that? That looks fair on one hand, but on the other innocent are being punished again. Russia can perform same, and nationalize everything that is created by foreigners. Again innocent are under hit.

[CaptainCrapper]

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Therefore other than that :
- Sanctions are going to cut off the economic supply to Russia and indirectly cut off all the money that's going to the war
- I understand it's causing probelms with the people living here but at the same time it's super essential to do to show that everyone is United and supporting Ukraine
- without sanctions they cannot stop the fight, funding and there would be no basis for talks as well.

Yes sanctions can change their economy only sanctions can stop war I think no alternative way to stop the war so everyone should make a very good economic system.

[FlamingFingers]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

Dialogue will be the best option, both Russia, Ukraine, EU and US will all feel the negative impact, so why not just make peace reign instead of sanctions here and there, Russia is also sanctioning them too, right now Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the World Bank and the IMF that his country has already suffered more than half a trillion dollars’ worth of damage and needs billions in aid every month just to stay afloat, just imagine if the war still continues without dialogue

[riso2015]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

It can be said that Russia is a very strong country, even though many countries have imposed sanctions on Russia, but Russia continues to inflate Ukraine, until now Russia is still attacking Ukraine, the sanctions given to Russia are not appropriate, because other countries those who feel the impact of the sanctions, such as in my country, now oil is very expensive, and the price of Pertamax has soared, I just pray that the war between the two countries will end soon.

[Rockstarguy]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

It can be said that Russia is a very strong country, even though many countries have imposed sanctions on Russia, but Russia continues to inflate Ukraine, until now Russia is still attacking Ukraine, the sanctions given to Russia are not appropriate, because other countries those who feel the impact of the sanctions, such as in my country, now oil is very expensive, and the price of Pertamax has soared, I just pray that the war between the two countries will end soon.

Russia is a very  rich country, Russia has build its economy very well long time ago that it can't easily dwindle and the invasion of Ukraine by Russia was not a recent plan. Russia has been planning to face a war with Ukraine for a very long time,  that is why they are untouched with all the sanctions giving to them by different countries, with all the sanctions are not ready to give up on the war.

[kamilah147]

I'm not siding with the Nazis, but what makes me proud is that the Nazis rose to control the government parliament and after that the Nazi leaders were able to lead Germany. due to the defeat of world war 1, the nazis again carried out world war 2 which finally hitler was judged by nature, there are references that hitler committed suicide. Russia invaded Ukraine for logical reasons. Russia does not want NATO to be a threat to its country. And speaking of economic sanctions, Russia can overcome them.

[DrBeer]

I'm not siding with the Nazis, but what makes me proud is that the Nazis rose to control the government parliament and after that the Nazi leaders were able to lead Germany. due to the defeat of world war 1, the nazis again carried out world war 2 which finally hitler was judged by nature, there are references that hitler committed suicide. Russia invaded Ukraine for logical reasons. Russia does not want NATO to be a threat to its country. And speaking of economic sanctions, Russia can overcome them.

Everything is fine, everything is wonderful. Only one caveat - and you are not very worried about one simple chronological fact. It sounds like this: Ukraine filed a decision and request for POSSIBLE entry into NATO AFTER the start of Russian aggression against Ukraine, which began in 2014? Just think, your chronology suffers, and because of this, logical conclusions and thoughts, as a result

And one more thing - listen to the speeches of the Russian elite in 2013-2014, about their plans for Ukraine. Was there something about NATO? No, it was only about some kind of "new Russia", "Russian world", and "destroy Ukraine". All this is available in open sources in the form of archives of speeches, newspapers, media, videos ...

[ningrum]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

It can be said that Russia is a very strong country, even though many countries have imposed sanctions on Russia, but Russia continues to inflate Ukraine, until now Russia is still attacking Ukraine, the sanctions given to Russia are not appropriate, because other countries those who feel the impact of the sanctions, such as in my country, now oil is very expensive, and the price of Pertamax has soared, I just pray that the war between the two countries will end soon.

Russia is a very  rich country, Russia has build its economy very well long time ago that it can't easily dwindle and the invasion of Ukraine by Russia was not a recent plan. Russia has been planning to face a war with Ukraine for a very long time,  that is why they are untouched with all the sanctions giving to them by different countries, with all the sanctions are not ready to give up on the war.

Russia really prepared everything well and such is the fact that it is happening right now,
with what has happened so far I think there is no way for Ukraine to win this war,
doesn't mean I support this war and I still hope this war can end soon

[Masplanc]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

[bustabitsboy]

It will be interesting to see the result of sanctions against Russia in a few months. What else can you refuse? Take a shower, wash your face, drive a car, dine in a restaurant? Great! I will never understand why sanctions are needed if members of the government cannot work normally. All problems can be solved through negotiations. This means that it is beneficial to countries that promote sanctions against people.

[EdenHazard]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

[Webetcoins]

Until now, I see that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not really effective in making Russia want to make peace with Ukraine, so I think sanctions are not the right option. There is a need for deeper communication between the two countries about this war because its effects on the economies of neighboring countries are really impactful, especially those that are dependent on oil and gas from Russia.

It can be said that Russia is a very strong country, even though many countries have imposed sanctions on Russia, but Russia continues to inflate Ukraine, until now Russia is still attacking Ukraine, the sanctions given to Russia are not appropriate, because other countries those who feel the impact of the sanctions, such as in my country, now oil is very expensive, and the price of Pertamax has soared, I just pray that the war between the two countries will end soon.

They are definitely a strong nation there is no doubting that, however they are not a "good" nation. Like for example, if you are talking against the war in a public place, you will be jailed, maybe you will stay there or maybe you will be warned and let go I do not know the rest, but I know for a fact that if you talk about the Ukraine war in a bad light, they take you away, what happens next is beyond me.

This is more than enough to show that they are not a good nation at all, they are a very bad nation to live in, I wouldn't want to be in Russia right now. All in all we just have to face the fact that some bad nations could grow strong over time.

[Ozero]

I think sanctions will make a lot of people suffer, those who don't agree with the war of course accept the consequences so this is a mistake, many things can be done to stop the war, and the most common thing is dialogue to find the best solution, if the war has already happened you should not It's easy to give sanctions because there will be many problems that follow.

Russian troops, on the orders of Putin, are now purposefully destroying the economy of Ukraine. They shoot at residential buildings, schools, hospitals, factories, they shoot directly at civilians, women, old people and children. Sitting in a warm room watching TV or a laptop, it's easy to talk about unfair sanctions that could affect "innocent" people in Russia. Tell about this in Ukraine to those who are in the basements of settlements under constant shelling by Russian artillery and multiple launch rocket systems, without food and water, who are dying under the rubble and forced to sleep there with the corpses of their dead relatives.

There are no innocent people in Russia in this tragedy in Ukraine. After all, it is not Putin who personally robs, kills and rapes the inhabitants of Ukraine. This is done by the husbands, fathers and brothers of those "innocent" who are in Russia and who, in telephone conversations, still order what clothes, household appliances or other property to bring from the houses of the robbed houses of Ukrainians. Recently, the wife of a Russian occupier told her husband in a telephone conversation: "You rape Ukrainian women there, just don't tell me. The main thing is to protect yourself."

Do you know that more than 80 percent of Russians now support the war unleashed by Russia in Ukraine and the killing of Ukrainians? So who is innocent? And how can the state machine of war be weakened so that all the people of this state do not suffer? The current sanctions, of course, are not very effective. As long as the "innocent" around the world pay $1.4 billion a day for Russian oil and gas to Russia, which is used to wage war, the effect of the sanctions will not be quick. However, even with this, even with the current sanctions in a year or two, the effect will be very noticeable.

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

[bakasabo]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

who are in Russia and who, in telephone conversations, still order what clothes, household appliances or other property to bring from the houses of the robbed houses of Ukrainians.

I find it hard to believe, that when you are at war and on enemy territory, you steal led tv or t-shirt and send it home. Where did these troops keep all this stuff? In tanks?

[riso2015]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much,
I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly.
humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon

other countries do not make peace but make things worse, by giving weapons to Ukraine, and imposing sanctions on Russia, actually it is not Russia that feels the impact of these sanctions, but other countries, especially my country since sanctions were imposed on Russia, all staple foods in my country have gone up doubled, oil also doubled, when will all this end??

[be.open]

other countries do not make peace but make things worse, by giving weapons to Ukraine, and imposing sanctions on Russia, actually it is not Russia that feels the impact of these sanctions, but other countries, especially my country since sanctions were imposed on Russia, all staple foods in my country have gone up doubled, oil also doubled, when will all this end??

The current sanctions against Russia are a fantastic miscalculation of the West. Two months later, they are not felt at all at the household level, it seems that the prices for everything in stores have even decreased. I don't know, so far the only change I've noticed is that ApplePay stopped working on my iPhone (I have to take my card out of my wallet to pay) and the image hosting that I used to embed an image on bitcointalk stopped working. Maybe I need to wait another six months or a year to feel some kind of effect? In 2014, after the annexation of Crimea, the sanctions were much more painful, now it can hardly even be called some kind of discomfort.

[Oasisman]

Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace

Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much,
I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly.
humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon

other countries do not make peace but make things worse, by giving weapons to Ukraine, and imposing sanctions on Russia, actually it is not Russia that feels the impact of these sanctions, but other countries, especially my country since sanctions were imposed on Russia, all staple foods in my country have gone up doubled, oil also doubled, when will all this end??

Good observations lol.
We won't gonna expect this war to end early when nations are donating weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves and Russian sanctions continued. I guess it's not actually the Russian people who were affected by these sanctions, but the 3rd world countries the most. Oil price rallied almost double it's price, and of course the products would skyrocket as well since they are all dependent on oil prices.

[Ozero]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

who are in Russia and who, in telephone conversations, still order what clothes, household appliances or other property to bring from the houses of the robbed houses of Ukrainians.

I find it hard to believe, that when you are at war and on enemy territory, you steal led tv or t-shirt and send it home. Where did these troops keep all this stuff? In tanks?

Now the entire Russian people, given their great support for Putin's actions, are attacking the Ukrainians. Understand correctly: now the civilians of Ukraine are under constant fire. Russia can and does shell any point on Ukrainian territory, targeting civilian infrastructure. Let them figure out for themselves in Russia which of them is more to blame and who is less. But there are no broad public protests. That they are afraid of their chosen ruler is also their fault. They themselves elect their officials and determine their own terms of reference. If they do not control them, that is also their fault. No one has the right to interfere in their internal affairs, and therefore they themselves are responsible for their politicians and leaders.
Inaction, tacit consent, the execution of a criminal order - this is also a crime. When the Russian army captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea in 2014, everyone just clapped their hands. The condemnation of such an act of aggression was rare and isolated. Therefore, selective punishment in this case is simply impossible. In Russia, its people and all the people must be held accountable for the ongoing genocide of Ukrainians.

Write that I judge the cases of several people? So take them out, what's the problem? Approximately 170,000 Russian soldiers have invaded Ukraine, and they are all shooting at Ukrainians. Well, it's not a few anymore. And even more of those who provide them with weapons, fuel, ammunition, shoot from the territory of Russia and Belarus, submarines and strategic bombers. No, the entire Russian people are now waging an aggressive war against Ukraine. And all the people must answer, if only because there is no mechanism to determine who is more to blame and who is less. The punishment should be such that for many generations they remember and tell their children and grandchildren that attacking peaceful neighboring peoples is a disaster for the attackers themselves.

As for the loot, on social networks you can see how Russian soldiers are transporting refrigerators, carpets, toilets directly on tanks, armored vehicles. Can you imagine, even toilet bowls are taken away from houses. For them, it is generally surprising that a toilet can be right in a private house. After all, they serve in the army from the deep Russian hinterland, where civilization has not yet reached them. And it was they who invaded Ukraine to rescue Ukrainians from someone.

[Renampun]

...

If the sanctions are imposed on developing countries or small countries of course it will work,
but in the current case where it refers to Russia I don't think it will matter considering Russia is a big country with a lot of resources,
Regardless of all that, I really hope that both countries can resolve it through diplomacy or non-violent means

Russia's greatest wealth is their oil and gas...

Russia today is not like the former Uni Soviet, which was a superpower but Russia is the most important country in Europe and its surroundings because it is the largest supplier of gas and oil there, so when the western and US sanctions were given, they had absolutely another way not to be pressured by the sanctions. I'm not sure a ceasefire agreement will come soon, Russia has shown an attitude to keep in the war.

[bakasabo]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

who are in Russia and who, in telephone conversations, still order what clothes, household appliances or other property to bring from the houses of the robbed houses of Ukrainians.

I find it hard to believe, that when you are at war and on enemy territory, you steal led tv or t-shirt and send it home. Where did these troops keep all this stuff? In tanks?

Now the entire Russian people, given their great support for Putin's actions, are attacking the Ukrainians. Understand correctly: now the civilians of Ukraine are under constant fire. Russia can and does shell any point on Ukrainian territory, targeting civilian infrastructure. Let them figure out for themselves in Russia which of them is more to blame and who is less. But there are no broad public protests. That they are afraid of their chosen ruler is also their fault. They themselves elect their officials and determine their own terms of reference. If they do not control them, that is also their fault. No one has the right to interfere in their internal affairs, and therefore they themselves are responsible for their politicians and leaders.
Inaction, tacit consent, the execution of a criminal order - this is also a crime. When the Russian army captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea in 2014, everyone just clapped their hands. The condemnation of such an act of aggression was rare and isolated. Therefore, selective punishment in this case is simply impossible. In Russia, its people and all the people must be held accountable for the ongoing genocide of Ukrainians.

Write that I judge the cases of several people? So take them out, what's the problem? Approximately 170,000 Russian soldiers have invaded Ukraine, and they are all shooting at Ukrainians. Well, it's not a few anymore. And even more of those who provide them with weapons, fuel, ammunition, shoot from the territory of Russia and Belarus, submarines and strategic bombers. No, the entire Russian people are now waging an aggressive war against Ukraine. And all the people must answer, if only because there is no mechanism to determine who is more to blame and who is less. The punishment should be such that for many generations they remember and tell their children and grandchildren that attacking peaceful neighboring peoples is a disaster for the attackers themselves.

As for the loot, on social networks you can see how Russian soldiers are transporting refrigerators, carpets, toilets directly on tanks, armored vehicles. Can you imagine, even toilet bowls are taken away from houses. For them, it is generally surprising that a toilet can be right in a private house. After all, they serve in the army from the deep Russian hinterland, where civilization has not yet reached them. And it was they who invaded Ukraine to rescue Ukrainians from someone.

My fathers grandparents moved from Russia to other country. In our family, we speak Russian (plus most of us know two more languages, including national language), some members of our family has "Russian" against nationality line in passport. Basically I am Russian. With your posts, you call people to blame me. Fair ? You say "everyone must answer".

You say Russians are marauders. What about Ukrainians, tided to lanterns for being marauders? Or they are Russians? Then why they are dressed in civilian and not captured?
Why there are so many footages that shows how bad Russians are, and not a single independent Russian social media show how Ukrainians act during that war?

Look, I am not supporting this so called military operation, neither support any side. My position is - everything should ne solved through negotiations.

[jaberwock]

Russia's greatest wealth is their oil and gas...

Russia today is not like the former Uni Soviet, which was a superpower but Russia is the most important country in Europe and its surroundings because it is the largest supplier of gas and oil there, so when the western and US sanctions were given, they had absolutely another way not to be pressured by the sanctions. I'm not sure a ceasefire agreement will come soon, Russia has shown an attitude to keep in the war.

I believe their greatest wealth is their nukes to be fair, without them, nobody could care about Russia and they would be the mockery of the world by now, the only reason they are still taken seriously is their nukes, get them out and Russia wouldn't be more than some poor third world nation.

However, their biggest export is oil/gas and interestingly wheat as well. Those three things cover for majority of their exports and actually majority of their income as well since they do not really have too many companies that work with other nations and bring in a ton of money. Oil is something that could end, there is a limit to how much you would have, which means unless they take precautions, they are going to run dry one day eventually.

[Serco]

other countries do not make peace but make things worse, by giving weapons to Ukraine, and imposing sanctions on Russia, actually it is not Russia that feels the impact of these sanctions, but other countries, especially my country since sanctions were imposed on Russia, all staple foods in my country have gone up doubled, oil also doubled, when will all this end??

no one knows when this war will ended , so far there is no real result of negotiations between Ukrania and Russia, and meanwhile make everthing getting worse by its sanctions or weapon supply. each party must realized this war will sacrifice alot old and child and so ne countries should be mediator or mediator.

[bangjoe]

other countries do not make peace but make things worse, by giving weapons to Ukraine, and imposing sanctions on Russia, actually it is not Russia that feels the impact of these sanctions, but other countries, especially my country since sanctions were imposed on Russia, all staple foods in my country have gone up doubled, oil also doubled, when will all this end??

no one knows when this war will ended , so far there is no real result of negotiations between Ukrania and Russia, and meanwhile make everthing getting worse by its sanctions or weapon supply. each party must realized this war will sacrifice alot old and child and so ne countries should be mediator or mediator.

War will make the country poor, not only for the two disputing countries but its effects will be felt in other countries. If the war continued then things would only get worse, and it was felt even before this happened. If we only rely on the awareness of the two countries that are heating up, I don't think it will come to a meeting point and will never even happen. I hope this will end soon, because many will be victims and many have already been. Otherwise I can't imagine what the worst effect would be.

[Renampun]

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I believe their greatest wealth is their nukes to be fair, without them, nobody could care about Russia and they would be the mockery of the world by now, the only reason they are still taken seriously is their nukes, get them out and Russia wouldn't be more than some poor third world nation.

However, their biggest export is oil/gas and interestingly wheat as well. Those three things cover for majority of their exports and actually majority of their income as well since they do not really have too many companies that work with other nations and bring in a ton of money. Oil is something that could end, there is a limit to how much you would have, which means unless they take precautions, they are going to run dry one day eventually.

Russian oil and gas will definitely dry up someday, but it takes a long time to get there...

what's interesting is that even though russian gas/oil will dry up but as you said yourself, they still have nuclear and also wheat which is one of their strengths. Russia is not a small country, their area is very large, so economic sanctions alone will not have a significant impact on them, the world needs something big to stop the Russian invasion to ukraine.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

<snip>only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

Now that's an interesting saying, one I've never heard before.  I'll confess I don't know exactly what it means, but perhaps there's some language barrier preventing me from understanding.  However, I think I get the general gist of what you mean.

<snip>how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power?

I have no idea, and I seriously doubt any of the western countries imposing these sanctions know either.  I'm guessing that they think it's their best course of action, because what else can they do?  Start a war with Russia?  Germany in the WWII era didn't have nuclear capability, so after WWI everyone felt free to fuck with them at will.  That isn't the case with Russia in 2022; if the US, UK, or any other nation who wants to help Ukraine flexed their military might, what do you think Putin would do?  

And that's the question Ukraine's allies are asking themselves, too.  I've been hearing innuendo about Putin's mental state, but frankly I never know what to believe with news outlets from any country--there's so much propaganda it's ridiculous.  I do know that no country wants to pick a fight with a country that has the power to obliterate half the globe or more.  That's why everyone is starting with sanctions.

Why there are so many footages that shows how bad Russians are, and not a single independent Russian social media show how Ukrainians act during that war?

That's a question I've been asking myself lately, although I know the answer--the media in the US is basically controlled by the government, and they don't want to present this issue with opposing viewpoints, only anti-Russian ones.  On the other hand, I haven't been seeing anything negative about Russian citizens, only Putin and the military.  But yeah, I have no idea what, if anything, Ukraine is doing wrong in this conflict because that's all censored. 

[Rasa nanas]

Russian oil and gas will definitely dry up someday, but it takes a long time to get there...

what's interesting is that even though russian gas/oil will dry up but as you said yourself, they still have nuclear and also wheat which is one of their strengths. Russia is not a small country, their area is very large, so economic sanctions alone will not have a significant impact on them, the world needs something big to stop the Russian invasion to ukraine.

The sanctions imposed by western countries on Russia have no significant effect because the country with the strongest economy namely China is on the side of Russia. imposing economic sanctions on russia is tantamount to suicide because russia supplies most of the energy in europe. true, it takes something big to stop the russian invasion of ukraine because economic sanctions and using weapons is not the right way to stop the russian invasion of ukraine.

[iv4n]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

who are in Russia and who, in telephone conversations, still order what clothes, household appliances or other property to bring from the houses of the robbed houses of Ukrainians.

I find it hard to believe, that when you are at war and on enemy territory, you steal led tv or t-shirt and send it home. Where did these troops keep all this stuff? In tanks?

Maybe it's hard for you to believe that, but this happens in every war! There're always people who are ready to take an advantage of the situation, even if that "taking advantage" is totally unethical, immoral, unprincipled, dishonourable, dishonest, unconscionable, fraudulent, and I don't know what else! But this happens all the time! I know some people from my neighborhood who went to war poor and came back very rich! Rich like a new and bigger house, new cars... and all that in months! 
I was a couple of years younger, so wars didn't catch me, but I know many people who went to war and I heard incredible stories from first hand... there's no explanation for this, some people are just garbage, in peace and in war, and you have those people everywhere around!

It's going like this, the first units that enter the populated place are special units, they are taking really valuable stuff, gold, and golden coins, hard cash... stuff like that, small but valuable! They are also cleaning the place, killing/raping/hardcore stuff, those guys are usually crazy! Many of them got into some really serious organized crime after the war! Ordinary soldiers comes in later, they are taking what's left! TV's, tools, clothes...

[Semar Mesem]

Sanctions will only make new problems, but with the current Russian economic conditions that look strong, it seems like it will not be too influential, maybe for the long term it will be a problem for the Russian economy.

[Furious 7]

Sanctions will only make new problems, but with the current Russian economic conditions that look strong, it seems like it will not be too influential, maybe for the long term it will be a problem for the Russian economy.

This is also still quite difficult considering that the country behind Russia at this time is China, which incidentally is a country with a fairly strong economy after America. I think this will only give a slight bluff no matter in the short or long term it will only have very little effect now.

Precisely in this case when Russia now owns almost everything one of which is oil when seeing sanctions like this will only make it difficult for smaller countries that impose sanctions on them especially for European countries.

[yawars20]

The common knowledge of history can tell us much more we can think of our selves now.
From the beginning Human nature is to seek more ways to dominate its surrounding and for so generation there are so many individuals who are still trying.
But now things are quite different and I think we are at the highest possible human advancement level and from this point we can now only think of way to survive from our own doing not to seek for more advancement.
Crypto sure is an amazing idea but with so many flwas in it the biggest is that it is still control by big fishes. You know what i mean. So we can't possibly be thinking about applying it to evolve but to use it as secondary way of an exchangeable currency.

[Erumo]

Limiting someone never worked well in the future. Real people that are responsible for war are not suffering from anything. They might get some temporary inconveniences in future, but in general sanctions wont affect them.

What everyone tries to achieve with all these sanctions? Force Russian people to overthrow government? But who will be in charge then? What if more crazy person will be the leader (and he would be craze, he is now made even more angry with sanction), what he will do? Stop the war, say they are sorry and cover all losses? Doubtfully. Instead he could send the biggest available missile straight to the face.

[DrBeer]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

But a good Russian, a lover of the Russian world, would kill your parents, rape your sister, steal a washing machine, shit in your house and destroy it. This is how they now behave in Ukraine!
And about the typewriter, you gave an example in vain, it is not correct. The right example - if in kindergarten, you shit all the children in their shoes, pissed in a vat of tea in the dining room, and then you would be PUNISHED for bad behavior, they took away the typewriter, and put you in a corner! Russia was punished for a reason, but for crimes that have already surpassed the crimes of Nazi Germany!

[Paul Pogba]

I think sanctions from Europe and the USA will make the situation worse, Russia will be more aggressive with several neighboring countries such as Georgia, Czech Republic, Slovakia and the former Soviet Union because they feel that the country around Russia is a threat to Russia, if this happens, of course there will be many citizens. Innocent russian state gets big losses for example assets in other countries will be frozen.

[bakasabo]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

But a good Russian, a lover of the Russian world, would kill your parents, rape your sister, steal a washing machine, shit in your house and destroy it. This is how they now behave in Ukraine!
And about the typewriter, you gave an example in vain, it is not correct. The right example - if in kindergarten, you shit all the children in their shoes, pissed in a vat of tea in the dining room, and then you would be PUNISHED for bad behavior, they took away the typewriter, and put you in a corner! Russia was punished for a reason, but for crimes that have already surpassed the crimes of Nazi Germany!

I did not get it. You suggest to blame and punish every Russian? From your example, it will be fair to punish every kid in kindergarten, when just one " shit all the children in their shoes, pissed in a vat of tea in the dining room". In your post you have mentioned Nazi Germany. Should we blame every German right now also? In my opinion, crime is a crime, it can not be surpassed. Death or tragedy of one person is as same bad as a death or tragedy of a millions.

But a good Russian, a lover of the Russian world, would kill your parents, rape your sister, steal a washing machine, shit in your house and destroy it. This is how they now behave in Ukraine!

They means Russians? These people are not Russians, they are garbage, rotten people. That is the problem of upbringing, education, mental stability, character. Dont judge whole nation by deeds of several people.

[ningrum]

I think sanctions from Europe and the USA will make the situation worse, Russia will be more aggressive with several neighboring countries such as Georgia, Czech Republic, Slovakia and the former Soviet Union because they feel that the country around Russia is a threat to Russia, if this happens, of course there will be many citizens. Innocent russian state gets big losses for example assets in other countries will be frozen.

I see that sanctions are not the right solution for now and it will also not weaken Russia completely,
and it could be sanctions for Russia instead be a boomerang for Europe,
we'll see what the next steps Europe will take considering they are also still dependent on Russia for oil

[Bitcoin2009]

I think sanctions are not the best solution when there is war, there are many things the world can do to make Russia stop aggression, dialogue and opening hearts to see the facts are better things, sanctions will continue to cause many victims.

[awik p]

I think sanctions from Europe and the USA will make the situation worse, Russia will be more aggressive with several neighboring countries such as Georgia, Czech Republic, Slovakia and the former Soviet Union because they feel that the country around Russia is a threat to Russia, if this happens, of course there will be many citizens. Innocent russian state gets big losses for example assets in other countries will be frozen.

I see that sanctions are not the right solution for now and it will also not weaken Russia completely,
and it could be sanctions for Russia instead be a boomerang for Europe,
we'll see what the next steps Europe will take considering they are also still dependent on Russia for oil

Russian sanctions have backfired, especially for European countries, they can't meet Russia's oil and gas needs, moreover they give Russia swift sanctions, and in the end Russia only wants to be paid in rubles. until now russia seems to be in control of this and the dilemma is focused on european countries, they seem to be victims of nato policy

[riso2015]

I think sanctions from Europe and the USA will make the situation worse, Russia will be more aggressive with several neighboring countries such as Georgia, Czech Republic, Slovakia and the former Soviet Union because they feel that the country around Russia is a threat to Russia, if this happens, of course there will be many citizens. Innocent russian state gets big losses for example assets in other countries will be frozen.

I agree with you, sanctions are not the right choice, even make things worse, assets in other countries will be frozen, as happened to Abramovich the Chelsea boss, he suffered tremendous losses, even he can no longer manage the Chelsea club, right? only has an impact on individuals but also has an impact on the club, in my personal opinion it is better not to continue the sanctions.

[YOSHIE]

I am just asking isn't there is any other alternative that we can use to punish Russia instead of putting sanctions on them.

With what Alternative Sanctions, weapons, nuclear, military, gas, gold or otherwise, are sanctioned, no, Russia has it all, no effect on Russia.

Actually, sanctions against Russia are a decision that has been made for other countries by the west, the goal of sanctions for Russia is not to cause widespread war, famine or also the economy.

The main purpose of sanctions against Russia is to limit output, pain, cut off foreign businesses that can bring the trade economy to a standstill and narrow the supply chain of natural resources to other countries, thus Russia will think about stopping the attack on Ukraine.

In fact, it was all ignored by Russian officials, the attacks continued, the victims continued to fall, innocent people were being targeted, I don't think the sanctions have a serious effect on Russia, they feel that the country is a super power, In my opinion, the best solution and alternative to Russia apart from sanctions is peace talks and ending the war between the two countries, returning to live in peace.

[Synchronice]

That isn't the case with Russia in 2022; if the US, UK, or any other nation who wants to help Ukraine flexed their military might, what do you think Putin would do?  

This attitude from the USA and Europe is a wrong move and makes Putin more confident in his capabilities.
We think, what will Putin do if...? But Putin doesn't think what we will do. Then we say that's because he is crazy and we are smart but no! He doesn't show his weakness and acts cool while we are cool but show our weaknesses. Do you get the point?

Why there are so many footages that shows how bad Russians are, and not a single independent Russian social media show how Ukrainians act during that war?

That's a question I've been asking myself lately, although I know the answer--the media in the US is basically controlled by the government, and they don't want to present this issue with opposing viewpoints, only anti-Russian ones.  On the other hand, I haven't been seeing anything negative about Russian citizens, only Putin and the military.  But yeah, I have no idea what, if anything, Ukraine is doing wrong in this conflict because that's all censored. 

Ukraine hasn't started the war but Russia started, do you guys understand the difference? Ukraine wants to be a part of the western family, they want a better life and they don't want with Russia because they have been with them during the Soviet Union era and they didn't like it.
I strongly recommend you to check the story of Holodomor, a genocide that was executed by the Soviet regime where millions of Ukrainians died of starvation, widespread cannibalism facts were documented during this time.
So, Ukraine and post-soviet countries except for Armenia and some others don't want to stay with Russia.

Take Poland as an example, it was conquered by Germans and by Russians but lately, you can see that they hate the Russian government very much and are doing as much as they can in this war, no one is as active as Poland. Have you heard about the Massacres of Poles in Volhynia? That was done by Ukrainians but Polish don't like the Russian government so much that they still help Ukrainians.

Do you know the reason why Polish people don't hate modern Germany but hate the modern Russian government? Because modern Germany is different from Nazi Germany while modern Russia wants to revive the Soviet Union.

[DrBeer]

More than half a trillion dollars worth of assets has been frozen by the international community on the currency and property of Russia and its elite. I consider it absolutely fair that these funds be transferred to Ukraine to restore its economy. This would greatly deter such aggressors in the future and encourage his people to restrain their maddened gangsters.

How can you separate frozen funds of Russian citizen, that did not vote for Putin on election, from those who did? Or a guy, who has Russian passport, lives and works abroad, does not care about Russian government at all, but has his funds also frozen. You are judging whole nation for deeds of several persons.

I can do that also. When I was a kid, other kid at kinder garden took my toy car. This kids grand-grand-grand-grand father has Ukrainian roots. I think I would blame all Ukrainians after this.

But a good Russian, a lover of the Russian world, would kill your parents, rape your sister, steal a washing machine, shit in your house and destroy it. This is how they now behave in Ukraine!
And about the typewriter, you gave an example in vain, it is not correct. The right example - if in kindergarten, you shit all the children in their shoes, pissed in a vat of tea in the dining room, and then you would be PUNISHED for bad behavior, they took away the typewriter, and put you in a corner! Russia was punished for a reason, but for crimes that have already surpassed the crimes of Nazi Germany!

I did not get it. You suggest to blame and punish every Russian? From your example, it will be fair to punish every kid in kindergarten, when just one " shit all the children in their shoes, pissed in a vat of tea in the dining room". In your post you have mentioned Nazi Germany. Should we blame every German right now also? In my opinion, crime is a crime, it can not be surpassed. Death or tragedy of one person is as same bad as a death or tragedy of a millions.

But a good Russian, a lover of the Russian world, would kill your parents, rape your sister, steal a washing machine, shit in your house and destroy it. This is how they now behave in Ukraine!

They means Russians? These people are not Russians, they are garbage, rotten people. That is the problem of upbringing, education, mental stability, character. Dont judge whole nation by deeds of several people.

Exactly ! All citizens of Russia who support the Putin regime, this war, and do not prevent the commission of crimes are guilty! And how did you want? Punish only the bastard soldier who raped an 8 year old girl and killed her? Or his parents squealing with delight or his wife, who says "you can rape Ukrainian women, just use condoms and don't tell me (while laughing), and bring me jewelry and perfume that you will steal from their homes." Or maybe a simple citizen of Russia who does not serve in the army but says that "it is necessary to destroy all Ukrainians" is not guilty? It's called collective responsibility! Haven't heard of this?

[777Jolami]

indeed, sanctions are not a good choice, Sanctions and war in Ukraine have pushed up commodity and energy prices, When global commodity prices rise, inflation will increase, causing  domestic problems for the countries imposing sanctions.  Therefore, Sanctions are like a double-edged sword, they cause damage to Russia but also cost the countries that impose sanctions.

[DVlog]

That isn't the case with Russia in 2022; if the US, UK, or any other nation who wants to help Ukraine flexed their military might, what do you think Putin would do?  

This attitude from the USA and Europe is a wrong move and makes Putin more confident in his capabilities.
We think, what will Putin do if...? But Putin doesn't think what we will do. Then we say that's because he is crazy and we are smart but no! He doesn't show his weakness and acts cool while we are cool but show our weaknesses. Do you get the point?

Many say Putin is a mad man but I can see his great ambition from his actions. When Putin escalate war on Ukraine EU saw NATO is only effective against non-nuclear countries and openly accept that they fear any confrontation with russia. Putin deserve some clap about how he recover russias economy after USA put sanction over them.

Putin is not a crazy man and if you wants to obliterate him from the existence then you should think about your own existence.

[bittraffic]

The advantage of Puti is that he has EU by its ass due to his oil. If he hasn't the oil, Biden may have his men already in the borders of Ukraine. It will already be a genocide. But because of the sanctions, it made EU and US weak in the eyes of Putin and Xi.

US spent billions to support Ukaine and seem they are in too deep already trying to make Ukraine look like they are winning but we could see the sanctions are biting back their ass.

[Wakate]

There had been many sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine but still, the war still continues. We need to understand that we don't use hard hand to fight hard hands. One will end up being damage and the other can be paralysed or still in a good shape.
The best way to stop this aggression is by negotiation not by sending ammunition to Ukraine for them to fight for themselves. NATO needs to meet with Russia and negotiate on how to stop this war or else, Ukraine will end up being a victim of war. They might lose more cities, friends, if care is not taken.

[jaberwock]

Limiting someone never worked well in the future. Real people that are responsible for war are not suffering from anything. They might get some temporary inconveniences in future, but in general sanctions wont affect them.

What everyone tries to achieve with all these sanctions? Force Russian people to overthrow government? But who will be in charge then? What if more crazy person will be the leader (and he would be craze, he is now made even more angry with sanction), what he will do? Stop the war, say they are sorry and cover all losses? Doubtfully. Instead he could send the biggest available missile straight to the face.

I believe that the temporary annoyance to them is not the sanctions, it is what people think. Imagine being a demage and a dictator like Putin who keeps on finding reasons to attack others because he thinks that he is saving Russians or they believe that they were wronged or whatever, you need the support of the people for that.

When you are at a level where even if it is like 30% of the nation actually supporting you, as a dictator you could stay at a high level and it is really hard to drop under that with the media under your control. However, if we are considering Putin losing all of that due to a war and sanctions and everyone starving? That would have resulted with him being ousted by oligarchs and commoners alike.

[bakasabo]

Exactly ! All citizens of Russia who support the Putin regime, this war, and do not prevent the commission of crimes are guilty! And how did you want? Punish only the bastard soldier who raped an 8 year old girl and killed her? Or his parents squealing with delight or his wife, who says "you can rape Ukrainian women, just use condoms and don't tell me (while laughing), and bring me jewelry and perfume that you will steal from their homes." Or maybe a simple citizen of Russia who does not serve in the army but says that "it is necessary to destroy all Ukrainians" is not guilty? It's called collective responsibility! Haven't heard of this?

Now you sound different. At first you have called to punish everyone, now only those who support Putin. Next what, find all election bulletins and punish only those who put a tick next to Vladimir Putin ?

I will tale you once again, you are judging whole nation by deeds of bunch of people. Please watch these videos (those who does not understand can turn of subs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0VeKprpB60, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKPzueJSHjA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms5vwppyp30, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vqFO3kxSBMo and https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qw7CmbaoEOA and tell me your opinion about Ukrainian refugees behavior ? Can I my impression about Ukrainians by these videos?

[riso2015]

The world cannot function on its own that is why there are superpower who have positioned themselves to regulate happenings around the world. Sanctioning might not utterly be the best against Russia now but when you look at it closely Russia is still getting their way around the sanctioning because they have supporters who have not sanctioned themselves against Russia. I believe, that the superpowers should call for peace treaty between the parties involved to avoid escalations. Putin has already warned that any country that intervenes (which I believe means any country that joins hand with Ukraine) will also hear from them.

it is true that the state will not function by itself, the superpowers impose sanctions on Russia, but the impact is certain that countries with weak economies will feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, such as India, Indonesia, even after the superpowers imposed sanctions on Russia. , the price of oil in my country immediately soared, I think the best way is to propose peace between the two countries.

[DVlog]

The world cannot function on its own that is why there are superpower who have positioned themselves to regulate happenings around the world. Sanctioning might not utterly be the best against Russia now but when you look at it closely Russia is still getting their way around the sanctioning because they have supporters who have not sanctioned themselves against Russia. I believe, that the superpowers should call for peace treaty between the parties involved to avoid escalations. Putin has already warned that any country that intervenes (which I believe means any country that joins hand with Ukraine) will also hear from them.

it is true that the state will not function by itself, the superpowers impose sanctions on Russia, but the impact is certain that countries with weak economies will feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, such as India, Indonesia, even after the superpowers imposed sanctions on Russia. , the price of oil in my country immediately soared, I think the best way is to propose peace between the two countries.

I do not think imposing sanctions on Russia will do any damage. That country already faced sanctions from the west countless times. Russia is so vast that they can live on their own if they are totally cut off from the outside world from trade. Maybe try could not lead a luxurious life but they will survive. I think sanction is not ideal for a country like China, Russia, or Iran. That is why Iran still survives when its economy is in the trash.

[stepwilli]

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This is the issue, people are looking for fake narrative where there isn't one. They are trying to justify the war because maybe "some" Ukrainians did something wrong during the war. I am sorry but if you attack my nation, I have every right to do whatever I please to you and there won't be any ounce of regret in me.

You are the one that attacks a whole nation and kill all the innocent people to take whatever you want, you deserve everything, not just death, that will be easy going, I would hope for much worse for you, pain and suffering. This is what war brings, this hatred is all because Putin decided to attack and I am not even Ukrainian, I have just been there once, but that's it, I have zero connections.

[Ozero]

There had been many sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine but still, the war still continues. We need to understand that we don't use hard hand to fight hard hands. One will end up being damage and the other can be paralysed or still in a good shape.
The best way to stop this aggression is by negotiation not by sending ammunition to Ukraine for them to fight for themselves. NATO needs to meet with Russia and negotiate on how to stop this war or else, Ukraine will end up being a victim of war. They might lose more cities, friends, if care is not taken.

It is essential that you make it clear that Putin started this war and does not want negotiations other than the surrender of Ukraine, the seizure of Ukrainian territory and the enslavement of its people. On the territory of Russia there are already 66 so-called filtration camps, where hundreds of thousands of civilians from Ukraine are forcibly deported. What kind of negotiations can there be if the Putin regime has already committed the genocide of the Ukrainian people and indiscriminately destroys the elderly, women and children in Ukraine? Russians totally destroy everything in their path: houses, schools, hospitals, plants and factories. They seek to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure and destroy its economy.

An alternative to the current sanctions and the most effective method would be a missile and bomb strike by the international community on all military facilities in Russia and its defense enterprises in order to eliminate the military threat to Russia. Therefore, the current sanctions are still a very humane method for this Russian aggression.

Russia will definitely suffer a military defeat in Ukraine. More than 25,000 Russian invaders have already been killed and about 70,000 wounded. Considering that about 190,000 Russian soldiers have invaded Ukraine, about half of the most combat-ready part of the Russian army has been put out of action. They can announce a general mobilization and draft many million people into the army, but in Russia they already admit that they are not able to equip, equip and feed such an army. In addition, it will most likely not be an army, but "cannon fodder" without military skills. In Ukraine, so far, mainly those who have combat experience are fighting. Therefore, their rebuff is very effective and highly professional. The loss of the Ukrainian military is estimated at 1 to 5 and even 1 to 7 Russian soldiers.

[19Nov16]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

[bakasabo]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

[Desscount]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

If you look at the case of the war between Russia and Ukraine, sanctions really won't turn into a good thing and will only add to the problem.
it is not an easy matter to stop war and sanctions are not the right choice either,
hope this can all end because humanity is much more important

[cabron]

If the sanctions to Russia is imposed to other country like North Korea or countries with no way to mine their own oil, it will be devastating. To Russia it will not work that way. That's why NATO is trying to convince India and China to join and sanction Russia. Now they are threatening India and China to also be sanctioned if they don't join.

Since the sanctions to Russia will continue, Putin will also keep reaping Ukraine with its natural resources so sustain his war. This war could really take long years which they could secure the position by building more facilities.

Nuking by the way is already in the minds of both parties. Hope to see this not coming true. What other options does US and EU have?

[DrBeer]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

[bakasabo]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

I dont follow "Russian news", as all their tv channels and news web pages are banned at my country.

Countries still buy Russian gas, as they havent found yet a way to substitute it. How many times did gas price increase, compared to price before February 24?

You know why "Sanction isn't the right option" and why they did not work? Yesterday I saw an article "Europe failed to agree on a new package of sanctions". Europe understood that they lose more from sanctions than get any profit or result. Now the so called European Union turns into individuals and think how to save themselves or choose best scenario among worse.

[be.open]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

I don't recall a case where Lavrov asked for sanctions to be lifted. In Russia, it is customary to put new Western sanctions in a package with packages, shrug your shoulders and move on.

[Ozero]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

If you look at the case of the war between Russia and Ukraine, sanctions really won't turn into a good thing and will only add to the problem.
it is not an easy matter to stop war and sanctions are not the right choice either,
hope this can all end because humanity is much more important

The aggressor can either be killed by military or other means, or forced to give up this aggression economically. Europe has long tried to please Putin. And here is the result: he became so insolent that he openly began to seize neighboring states.
The current sanctions will bring results, but not as quickly as some would like. Although in Russia itself they are already being felt.
The most effective way is to have an international military rapid reaction force that could instantly be used against such Putins, who suddenly felt the strength of a great conqueror. This would be a more effective deterrent.

[DrBeer]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

I don't recall a case where Lavrov asked for sanctions to be lifted. In Russia, it is customary to put new Western sanctions in a package with packages, shrug your shoulders and move on.

Well, just because you haven’t heard, absolutely doesn’t mean that Lavrov didn’t say this

The issue of lifting sanctions is constantly being discussed, Russia is constantly moaning and begging for them to be removed - either it's not fair, it's not humane, or something else. Do you remember how fun it was in 2014 - and don’t make our Iskanders laugh, and the sanctions are only good. And now Putin asks to withdraw from the UN (last year), then Lavrov speaks of inhumanity (the last couple of years), then recently Lavrov was surprised new package of sanctions, and was quite annoyed (last month). As I understand it, it's all about the fact that they like sanctions and they enjoy them, right? Finding the described events is very simple - Google, and the request "Putin asks to lift sanctions", or "Lavrov asks to lift sanctions", and you will be happy - hear them!

[be.open]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

I don't recall a case where Lavrov asked for sanctions to be lifted. In Russia, it is customary to put new Western sanctions in a package with packages, shrug your shoulders and move on.

Well, just because you haven’t heard, absolutely doesn’t mean that Lavrov didn’t say this

The issue of lifting sanctions is constantly being discussed, Russia is constantly moaning and begging for them to be removed - either it's not fair, it's not humane, or something else. Do you remember how fun it was in 2014 - and don’t make our Iskanders laugh, and the sanctions are only good. And now Putin asks to withdraw from the UN (last year), then Lavrov speaks of inhumanity (the last couple of years), then recently Lavrov was surprised new package of sanctions, and was quite annoyed (last month). As I understand it, it's all about the fact that they like sanctions and they enjoy them, right? Finding the described events is very simple - Google, and the request "Putin asks to lift sanctions", or "Lavrov asks to lift sanctions", and you will be happy - hear them!

Maybe you can do it for me and provide prooflinks? And now it looks more like lies and slander that you spread as part of a subscription campaign, which your bounty manager may not like.

[amishmanish]

Its a very sensible post. in fact why should citizens suffer for crimes of politicians. Moreover why don't countries united and supported the Ukraine initially, like how they are doing it now.
I think we need to create a international mechanism wherein citizens can express themselves against their own leaders if needed. In many countries the leaders start ruining countries for personal gains. There are many countries where citizens are suffering in oppressive rule and  citizens in such countries want to come out and overturn the governments, but they need support, atleast they should be allowed to express this  anguish... I believe Elon musk can do something on this. What say?

[jootn2kx]

A wise man once said that to carry on the war, three things are necessary: money, money, and yet more money. The parallel with Germany (the Weimar Republic) is inappropriate - if you want to draw comparisons, the Blockade of Germany between 1939 - 1945 would be more illustrative. Hopefully, Russia doesn't turn to crypto to mend its economic troubles and circumvent sanctions because that would be draconian regulations from the U.S. and the EU. 

[DrBeer]

In the end it will turn out that sanctions worked opposite and only made Russia more rich and powerful. We have increased prices on natural resources already, and the prices keep going higher. I dont believe those, who call to refuse using Russian gas or oil, or say that they already refused using them, really did it. On one hand Russian economy is suffering from lack of import, on the other it is being pumped with money right now. Who is winning from that?

I have one question for you. Tell me - do you follow the news? Behind the speeches of politicians and government representatives? I mean Russian? No, not hysterical clowns in the Kremlin propaganda studios, but, for example, Lavrov? This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Tell me - do you think he's an idiot? Do you think he does not understand the benefits of sanctions that will only enrich and strengthen Russia? Or is he a saboteur, and is constantly begging the US and the EU for the sanctions to be lifted? It turns out that the entire diplomatic corps of Russia, and the president and prime minister of Russia himself, are enemies of Russia?! Want to prevent profit from sanctions?

I don't recall a case where Lavrov asked for sanctions to be lifted. In Russia, it is customary to put new Western sanctions in a package with packages, shrug your shoulders and move on.

Well, just because you haven’t heard, absolutely doesn’t mean that Lavrov didn’t say this

The issue of lifting sanctions is constantly being discussed, Russia is constantly moaning and begging for them to be removed - either it's not fair, it's not humane, or something else. Do you remember how fun it was in 2014 - and don’t make our Iskanders laugh, and the sanctions are only good. And now Putin asks to withdraw from the UN (last year), then Lavrov speaks of inhumanity (the last couple of years), then recently Lavrov was surprised new package of sanctions, and was quite annoyed (last month). As I understand it, it's all about the fact that they like sanctions and they enjoy them, right? Finding the described events is very simple - Google, and the request "Putin asks to lift sanctions", or "Lavrov asks to lift sanctions", and you will be happy - hear them!

Maybe you can do it for me and provide prooflinks? And now it looks more like lies and slander that you spread as part of a subscription campaign, which your bounty manager may not like.

))))))
What do you really not like? I even allow you to write a slander to the bounty manager, and write a libel that I have a firm position regarding a country that violates moral and ethical standards, is the center and sponsor of world terrorism, and is waging a terrorist war in my country, destroying, raping thousands of civilians ! Come on, heroically convey! But the truth and reality will not change from this, even though you call the facts a lie...
Links about the groans of Lavrov and Putin about the need to lift sanctions - look for yourself, strain at least a little, work with information from reality at least a little, it will only benefit. It will be a little more difficult than copy-pasting propaganda nonsense and passing off fantasies as truth.

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

PS And a request - if you are used to throwing words into the wind - proof that I am spreading lies?

PS and don't forget to write a complaint to "Sportlotto" out of the soviet habit ))

[be.open]

))))))
What do you really not like? I even allow you to write a slander to the bounty manager, and write a libel that I have a firm position regarding a country that violates moral and ethical standards, is the center and sponsor of world terrorism, and is waging a terrorist war in my country, destroying, raping thousands of civilians ! Come on, heroically convey! But the truth and reality will not change from this, even though you call the facts a lie...
Links about the groans of Lavrov and Putin about the need to lift sanctions - look for yourself, strain at least a little, work with information from reality at least a little, it will only benefit. It will be a little more difficult than copy-pasting propaganda nonsense and passing off fantasies as truth.

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

PS And a request - if you are used to throwing words into the wind - proof that I am spreading lies?

PS and don't forget to write a complaint to "Sportlotto" out of the soviet habit ))

Lots of empty words and a broken link with a 404 error.

[bakasabo]

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

"putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran" an English word among Russian transliteration words in Latin. That is odd to write page names like this.

Anyway, DrBeer what is your position considering sanctions. You have quoted some of my posts, but when I answer you, you did not bother answer bank. So far you claim that sanctions is the right decision, and they must affect every Russian. Right?

[DrBeer]

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

"putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran" an English word among Russian transliteration words in Latin. That is odd to write page names like this.

Anyway, DrBeer what is your position considering sanctions. You have quoted some of my posts, but when I answer you, you did not bother answer bank. So far you claim that sanctions is the right decision, and they must affect every Russian. Right?

This is a question for content managers and an engine that converts titles into human-readable links. Unfortunately, now almost all Russian sites show that they are without certificates and do not allow the content to go. But I think if you search for the keywords "Putin laurels are asked to lift sanctions" - you will find materials, articles and videos with speeches. For example, here is a working link https://lenta.ru/news/2017/06/02/enough/

Regarding the fact that I did not answer - perhaps I do not exclude it. I might have missed the post, it happens. I see no problem answering now
My opinion is that sanctions have been imposed against the COUNTRY. Moreover, with a full bouquet of reasons - from the annexation of foreign territories to crimes against civilians and genocide. The country has a ruling regime, a criminal ruling regime. The task is to create economic and technological problems for this country in order to stop its aggression and criminal actions. And yes - the impact of sanctions can have an impact on all the inhabitants of the country. Although I already wrote - about 60% of the Russian population will not feel the sanctions, because. and so they live, by the standards of a normal community - below the poverty level, for them there is no concept of "life will become even worse." It's hard to understand, you just have to go and see how people live in small towns and villages. So in this particular case, I answer your question finally:
1. Yes, sanctions for the entire country, and they could affect all residents of Russia.
2. Due to the extremely low standard of living of a significant part of the population of Russia, the sanctions will really affect only a smaller part of the population of Russia.

))))))
What do you really not like? I even allow you to write a slander to the bounty manager, and write a libel that I have a firm position regarding a country that violates moral and ethical standards, is the center and sponsor of world terrorism, and is waging a terrorist war in my country, destroying, raping thousands of civilians ! Come on, heroically convey! But the truth and reality will not change from this, even though you call the facts a lie...
Links about the groans of Lavrov and Putin about the need to lift sanctions - look for yourself, strain at least a little, work with information from reality at least a little, it will only benefit. It will be a little more difficult than copy-pasting propaganda nonsense and passing off fantasies as truth.

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

PS And a request - if you are used to throwing words into the wind - proof that I am spreading lies?

PS and don't forget to write a complaint to "Sportlotto" out of the soviet habit ))

Lots of empty words and a broken link with a 404 error.

Well, what do you want - Russia, they can’t even make a website normally
Above is another link, working, but I advise you to independently study the topic "Moans from Russia with a request to cancel very useful sanctions"

The "fun" of this topic is that in Russia Putin and other "patriots" heroically talk nonsense about "ridiculous sanctions" and "benefit for the economy", but as soon as they find themselves in a normal world, groans immediately begin - well, why sanctions, oh here covid, oh there is diarrhea, oh everyone is suffering, let's take it off and we also really need to take it off, but why am I right away? As always, the classic cognitive dissonance of views and opinions, in Russian ...

[be.open]

Well, what do you want - Russia, they can’t even make a website normally
Above is another link, working, but I advise you to independently study the topic "Moans from Russia with a request to cancel very useful sanctions"

The "fun" of this topic is that in Russia Putin and other "patriots" heroically talk nonsense about "ridiculous sanctions" and "benefit for the economy", but as soon as they find themselves in a normal world, groans immediately begin - well, why sanctions, oh here covid, oh there is diarrhea, oh everyone is suffering, let's take it off and we also really need to take it off, but why am I right away? As always, the classic cognitive dissonance of views and opinions, in Russian ...

Well, where are the requests or pleas for the lifting of sanctions? The link is simply a statement of the fact that economic sanctions do not achieve their goals for which they were introduced. Crimea is still Russian, the operation in Ukraine is still ongoing, the sanctions have essentially changed nothing. Unless they had to feed pigs with Polish apples after Russian counter-sanctions in the fall of 2014.

I'll tell you more, economic sanctions are of great benefit to Russia. Russia until 2014 was a major importer of food, and then became a major exporter. Now the US and Europe are voluntarily leaving the developed markets with huge losses, and new players are coming in their place.

[Freeesta]

Well, what do you want - Russia, they can’t even make a website normally
Above is another link, working, but I advise you to independently study the topic "Moans from Russia with a request to cancel very useful sanctions"

The "fun" of this topic is that in Russia Putin and other "patriots" heroically talk nonsense about "ridiculous sanctions" and "benefit for the economy", but as soon as they find themselves in a normal world, groans immediately begin - well, why sanctions, oh here covid, oh there is diarrhea, oh everyone is suffering, let's take it off and we also really need to take it off, but why am I right away? As always, the classic cognitive dissonance of views and opinions, in Russian ...

Well, where are the requests or pleas for the lifting of sanctions? The link is simply a statement of the fact that economic sanctions do not achieve their goals for which they were introduced. Crimea is still Russian, the operation in Ukraine is still ongoing, the sanctions have essentially changed nothing. Unless they had to feed pigs with Polish apples after Russian counter-sanctions in the fall of 2014.

I'll tell you more, economic sanctions are of great benefit to Russia. Russia until 2014 was a major importer of food, and then became a major exporter. Now the US and Europe are voluntarily leaving the developed markets with huge losses, and new players are coming in their place.

I wanted to write about the fact that sanctions are very useful for Russia, but you beat me to it. Sanctions allow the development of the domestic market for goods, competitiveness between manufacturers arises and the quality of goods increases. There is an impetus to the growth of the country's economy and there is no dependence on foreign supplies. With gas, this option is not suitable. It either exists in the country or it doesn't. All other items can be produced by yourself)

[qwertyup23]

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Therefore other than that :
- Sanctions are going to cut off the economic supply to Russia and indirectly cut off all the money that's going to the war
- I understand it's causing probelms with the people living here but at the same time it's super essential to do to show that everyone is United and supporting Ukraine
- without sanctions they cannot stop the fight, funding and there would be no basis for talks as well.

The sanctions that have been imposed definitely took Russia some sort of economic damage to their finances. Due to the trade limits imposed, some of the big and huge businesses from across the globe were compelled to leave the country, resulting to a shortage and an inflation to the current supply of products in Russia. Just like what happened in North Korea, such country was isolated, thus most of its citizens are suffering from food shortages and poverty (one big factor is the improper expenditure of North Korea's wealth).

I just hope that this would not seriously prejudice the countries once Russia starts to threat it with its nuclear weapons and bombs. If such thing were to happen, then every country would unite to prevent this chaotic event from happening.

[ven7net]

Of course, sanctions are a wrong and even a bad decision, as they allow you to unfairly destroy entire countries. In this case, I mean the use of sanctions as a weapon against a particular country. And here it is important to note that this policy has long been used by Western countries against other countries. As for the application of sanctions against Russia, one interesting thing is worth noting here. The fact is that although sanctions are bad, the use of them against Russia has a slightly different result. Yes, they certainly harm Russia, or rather hinder its development, but they also hit those who introduce them very painfully. To summarize, of course, any sanctions are bad and wrong, and as practice shows, they can hit in the opposite direction at any moment.

[be.open]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

[SirLancelot]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

If you look at the case of the war between Russia and Ukraine, sanctions really won't turn into a good thing and will only add to the problem.
it is not an easy matter to stop war and sanctions are not the right choice either,
hope this can all end because humanity is much more important

I think there are more better things that they can do to stop the war, not this sanctions. I agree with you that it only makes the situation more worse. Oil price and other goods are now rising. The poor people are the one's that are heavily affected by this.

Why can just other countries unite and join Ukraine to fight Russia? I don't know if Russia won't stop that way. They can do something like kidnap Putin and give threats that if his men wont stop, something bad will happen to him but Putin deserves to be punish him like the way he punish Ukraine and the world. Humanity is more important, for us but for Putin? He doesn't care. What's more important to him is that he can destroy Ukraine.

[arwin100]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

If you look at the case of the war between Russia and Ukraine, sanctions really won't turn into a good thing and will only add to the problem.
it is not an easy matter to stop war and sanctions are not the right choice either,
hope this can all end because humanity is much more important

I think there are more better things that they can do to stop the war, not this sanctions. I agree with you that it only makes the situation more worse. Oil price and other goods are now rising. The poor people are the one's that are heavily affected by this.

Why can just other countries unite and join Ukraine to fight Russia? I don't know if Russia won't stop that way. They can do something like kidnap Putin and give threats that if his men wont stop, something bad will happen to him but Putin deserves to be punish him like the way he punish Ukraine and the world. Humanity is more important, for us but for Putin? He doesn't care. What's more important to him is that he can destroy Ukraine.

Maybe those people didn't study well on what will be the consequences if they impose sanction on Russia and we see that this will not bring any good result to them and to us since inflation skyrocketed which really hit us badly. If this take more months for sure this could hurt the whole global economy and most provably this will give huge problem to third world countries.

[laredo7mm]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

[bakasabo]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

True politics. Plan to do A, say that you will do B, in the end do C. I see that those who impose sanctions, always left some space for maneuvers. Everyone try to get rid of buying gas directly from Russia, and in the same prepare to buy Russian gas from intermediary. With sanctions countries plan to decrease Russian budget funding, but Russia has huge reserves. But that does not matter, as in the end there will be no winner.

[Ozero]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

Just now Putin does not know what to do next. Any of his actions already lead to a loss. For him, there were either bad or the worst possible scenarios. But the most important thing is that it pulls down the whole country. He is neither a strategist nor an intellectual. This is an international robber and murderer, impudent from impunity.
The sanctions imposed after his attack on Ukraine cannot give a quick result. The results of their introduction will begin to show up seriously towards the end of the year. The international community no longer has a choice how to punish the aggressor to the detriment of their own economies. Putin has been gratified for too long, and everyone is already convinced that this was the wrong way.

[bakasabo]

He is neither a strategist nor an intellectual.

Some people say, that as intelligence officer, he is able to execute given tasks, but not generate his own tasks properly. He can think of a multi step plan to reach goal, but he can not create this goal by himself.

The sanctions imposed after his attack on Ukraine cannot give a quick result. The results of their introduction will begin to show up seriously towards the end of the year. The international community no longer has a choice how to punish the aggressor to the detriment of their own economies.

We, as an "international community" are already feeling negative results from sanctions against Russia. If this is just a beginning, then dark future scares me.
I think there are so many imposed sanctions against Russia, that they have set sort of a record already. Cant imagine what else "not military" can be done to stop this war.

[DrBeer]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

Reducing industrial production, shutting down factories and plants, inflation, rising food prices, cutting social programs, further impoverishment of the population - of course, the normal situation for Russia, the usual state of affairs, everything is fine in a word
I wonder who at JPMorgan managed to predict the collapse of the Russian economy as early as 2 months after the start of sanctions? You can link to the forecast - I'll read it, I'll definitely add the author to the list of "creative fools of JPMorgan"

Even I would not dare to write such a thing. If you read my assumptions, then this is the end of summer-autumn, the time when the sanctions will begin to really affect the processes in Russia. Just a little observation for the experimental

[og kush420]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

Reducing industrial production, shutting down factories and plants, inflation, rising food prices, cutting social programs, further impoverishment of the population - of course, the normal situation for Russia, the usual state of affairs, everything is fine in a word
I wonder who at JPMorgan managed to predict the collapse of the Russian economy as early as 2 months after the start of sanctions? You can link to the forecast - I'll read it, I'll definitely add the author to the list of "creative fools of JPMorgan"

Even I would not dare to write such a thing. If you read my assumptions, then this is the end of summer-autumn, the time when the sanctions will begin to really affect the processes in Russia. Just a little observation for the experimental

Sanction is not a good option. All this is done by US to bring Russia down. But of course the world can not shut its trade with Russia. Do you think - any other country can fulfill the oil need of the world? Of course not - and also when Russia will start trading in Ruble it will bring a different dimension to the world.

[Ozero]

He is neither a strategist nor an intellectual.

Some people say, that as intelligence officer, he is able to execute given tasks, but not generate his own tasks properly. He can think of a multi step plan to reach goal, but he can not create this goal by himself.

The sanctions imposed after his attack on Ukraine cannot give a quick result. The results of their introduction will begin to show up seriously towards the end of the year. The international community no longer has a choice how to punish the aggressor to the detriment of their own economies.

We, as an "international community" are already feeling negative results from sanctions against Russia. If this is just a beginning, then dark future scares me.
I think there are so many imposed sanctions against Russia, that they have set sort of a record already. Cant imagine what else "not military" can be done to stop this war.

Due to the fact that the Putin regime in the international arena has brazenly violated everything that could be violated and does not respond to the demands of the world community to stop the aggression against Ukraine, and in addition, the courageous resistance of Ukraine showed the military weakness of Russia, this time the world states decided destroy Russia militarily and economically, providing Ukraine with military, financial and material assistance. Soon we will be able to witness the shameful defeat of Russia in this war.

Over time, sanctions against Russia will only get tougher. For a long time now, Europe has been discussing the sixth package of sanctions, where the main issues will be Europe's refusal of Russian oil and the disconnection of the Russian Sberbank from the SWIFT payment system. This will be followed by the seventh package of sanctions, where Europe will refuse Russian gas. These will not be easy decisions, but Europe goes for it, realizing what a threat Russia poses to the civilized world. If earlier we said that Germany is one of the most energy dependent on Russia, now it is Germany that calls on other European countries to introduce a complete embargo on Russian oil and gas.

In addition, by blocking the free navigation in the Black Sea, including the ports of Ukraine, Russia creates a threat of starvation in the world. Africa may suffer greatly from this, because Ukraine cannot supply its agricultural products to the international market. Therefore, Russia was warned for the last time about the serious consequences of this blocking. After that, in the near future, the US Sixth Fleet is ready to enter the Black Sea from the Mediterranean and ensure the freedom of navigation in this region. The likelihood of a third world war is greatly increased

[Naficopa]

In addition, by blocking the free navigation in the Black Sea, including the ports of Ukraine, Russia creates a threat of starvation in the world. Africa may suffer greatly from this, because Ukraine cannot supply its agricultural products to the international market. Therefore, Russia was warned for the last time about the serious consequences of this blocking. After that, in the near future, the US Sixth Fleet is ready to enter the Black Sea from the Mediterranean and ensure the freedom of navigation in this region. The likelihood of a third world war is greatly increased

Every time I watch news - I feel the countries don't want to help anyone - they have their own agenda.
US wants to destabilise Russia - but it is not easy. World would not be able to shut its door to Russia and they will do as Russia will demand. You will see counties will pay in Rubal and it will be a game changer.

[bakasabo]

Every time I watch news - I feel the countries don't want to help anyone - they have their own agenda.

You are right, everyone are solving their own problems. At first, Russia thought that it will be a quick military operation and they will achieve their goals. But they have failed. At first Europe and other Russian "partners" thought that after they impose sanctions, Russia will step back and the war would be over. But that plan has failed. Now everyone around Ukraine act like "we have tried to save you, but that did not help", and now we have our own economy to save and people to protect.

[og kush420]

Every time I watch news - I feel the countries don't want to help anyone - they have their own agenda.

You are right, everyone are solving their own problems. At first, Russia thought that it will be a quick military operation and they will achieve their goals. But they have failed. At first Europe and other Russian "partners" thought that after they impose sanctions, Russia will step back and the war would be over. But that plan has failed. Now everyone around Ukraine act like "we have tried to save you, but that did not help", and now we have our own economy to save and people to protect.

I second with you - every country has their own agenda - US is putting so much sanctions on and forcing other countries to do as directed.
Also Russia is paying heavy price for attacking Ukraine - Pakistan and Srilanka paid a heavy price by not giving any statement in favour or against these two countries. What a pity.

[be.open]

At first, Russia thought that it will be a quick military operation and they will achieve their goals. But they have failed.

Rumors about the Russian blitzkrieg are based on the value judgment of the US intelligence, which in the course of one year made a gross mistake twice - first in Afghanistan, and then in Ukraine, incorrectly assessing the combat effectiveness of local armies. I repeat once again, the opinion that Kyiv will hold out for 3-4 days in the event of aggression from Russia belongs to the CIA. Russia is running its operation at its own pace on its own schedule and it will end when Russia says "enough".

[Masplanc]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

Reducing industrial production, shutting down factories and plants, inflation, rising food prices, cutting social programs, further impoverishment of the population - of course, the normal situation for Russia, the usual state of affairs, everything is fine in a word
I wonder who at JPMorgan managed to predict the collapse of the Russian economy as early as 2 months after the start of sanctions? You can link to the forecast - I'll read it, I'll definitely add the author to the list of "creative fools of JPMorgan"

Even I would not dare to write such a thing. If you read my assumptions, then this is the end of summer-autumn, the time when the sanctions will begin to really affect the processes in Russia. Just a little observation for the experimental

Sanction is not a good option. All this is done by US to bring Russia down. But of course the world can not shut its trade with Russia. Do you think - any other country can fulfill the oil need of the world? Of course not - and also when Russia will start trading in Ruble it will bring a different dimension to the world.

Sanctions is the only thing the US government can do to Russians , if it goes beyond sanction it may cause something else maybe serious war that may get some other countries involved who are in support of Russia.  US did the best thing by imposing Sanctions on Russia.

[Chato1977]

It is not just sanction that will affecting them because we knew that it is very early to expect the result , but this will all matter in time .
when the war ended and they need to extend their businesses and economy , then that time they will face all this consequences .

[DrBeer]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

Reducing industrial production, shutting down factories and plants, inflation, rising food prices, cutting social programs, further impoverishment of the population - of course, the normal situation for Russia, the usual state of affairs, everything is fine in a word
I wonder who at JPMorgan managed to predict the collapse of the Russian economy as early as 2 months after the start of sanctions? You can link to the forecast - I'll read it, I'll definitely add the author to the list of "creative fools of JPMorgan"

Even I would not dare to write such a thing. If you read my assumptions, then this is the end of summer-autumn, the time when the sanctions will begin to really affect the processes in Russia. Just a little observation for the experimental

Sanction is not a good option. All this is done by US to bring Russia down. But of course the world can not shut its trade with Russia. Do you think - any other country can fulfill the oil need of the world? Of course not - and also when Russia will start trading in Ruble it will bring a different dimension to the world.

Let's go the easy way, shall we? Now you will name how the world economy depends on Russian exports. other than oil and gas. OK ?
Name 5-10 strategic products/technologies that Russia supplies to the Western market, which the West does not produce and cannot produce without Russia?
I give a head start in 2-3 days to study the market. Really looking forward to the answer ! Everyone will be wondering why 1.5% of the world economy affects the whole world?

[be.open]

Everyone will be wondering why 1.5% of the world economy affects the whole world?

Or can you answer this question yourself? Why are the US and Europe blaming a country with such a small GDP and a tattered economy for skyrocketing prices and the threat of a global food crisis?

[laredo7mm]

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Everyone will be wondering why 1.5% of the world economy affects the whole world?

Or can you answer this question yourself? Why are the US and Europe blaming a country with such a small GDP and a tattered economy for skyrocketing prices and the threat of a global food crisis?

Maybe Biden could answer this question. West treats Russia as a place of barbaric and warmongering people who even fight with each other for food.

It is not just sanction that will affecting them because we knew that it is very early to expect the result , but this will all matter in time .
when the war ended and they need to extend their businesses and economy , then that time they will face all this consequences .

What more do you want them to face than sanction? West already tried to cut off Russia from the rest of the world from trade. Isn't that the ultimate punishment for a country? This war can be ended if Russia wins or lose it. There is no other way.

[DrBeer]

Everyone will be wondering why 1.5% of the world economy affects the whole world?

Or can you answer this question yourself? Why are the US and Europe blaming a country with such a small GDP and a tattered economy for skyrocketing prices and the threat of a global food crisis?

You again continue to twist words and pull words out of context?

The West is not talking about "problems" from Russia's miserable economy, but about a crisis that could arise from a decrease in grain supplies, of which both Ukraine and Russia are exporters. This is how the complete phrase sounds, which has a completely different meaning than the one you just tried to slip You are not in Russia, they don’t believe such nonsense and propaganda here, plus they know how to check information

I will also add that there will be a crisis associated with sunflower oil, the world leader of which is Ukraine. And good quality honey.

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

[be.open]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

[og kush420]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

I also believe the same - the world we see a different dimansion in trade when the countries will start paying in Ruble - the dollar demand will drop too.
US tried to destabilize Russia by putting so much sanction on them - US is always a trouble they have done so much damage to the world already. 

[horrifiedx1]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

I also believe the same - the world we see a different dimansion in trade when the countries will start paying in Ruble - the dollar demand will drop too.
US tried to destabilize Russia by putting so much sanction on them - US is always a trouble they have done so much damage to the world already. 

But it looks like Russia is sticking with it, so who needs them wins. and russia has oil and gas which is very much needed by western countries, and if they do not follow the demands of russia, there will be big inflation in that country because their basic materials are not sufficient, which in the end is expensive. Of course, if you haven't found an alternative solution, many western countries will submit to Russia

[ropyu1978]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

[Cryptock]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

[DrBeer]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

today May 22nd. The results of your predictions, not through the prism of Russian propaganda, but as they are in reality (we know that these are diametrically opposed data, right? )
So.
1. Finland, because of the tantrums of the Kremlin's half-witted pathetic copy of Hitler, refuses to purchase Russian gas, because - for rubles. Everything, Finland will freeze, they will know how to join NATO! They'll crawl on their knees! We can repeat! Oh It's the previously listened to news from Russia that broke out from me In fact, Russian gas in Finland is an inconspicuous loss. For the Finns have not heated their homes with gas for a long time, and the share of Russian gas in total supplies is only 5% But Russia is still reducing its income, once again shooting itself in the foot. By the way, Finland, represented by Gasum, is suing Gazprom-Export, because of the demand to violate contracts and pay for gas. Given the position of the European Commission, the result is predictable
2. EU. Another 10 companies from the countries-"hand dogs" of the Kremlin terrorists (Germany, Italy, Hungary) have opened ruble accounts in Gazprombank. Opened. But only some companies from Germany made the payment. Everything ! EU on its knees! We can repeat! Everyone will freeze without our gas! The ruble is the most stable! Oh Again, propaganda from the rush-media climbs
Have you noticed - I'm not afraid to write facts that contradict my interests, views, and I don't slide into propaganda fantasies?! Get experience! To be honest, or not to be a victim of propaganda - it's easy!
3. The European Union said that gas companies would violate sanctions if they opened bank accounts in rubles to buy Russian gas.
Despite attempts by Gazprom to convince buyers in the EU that paying for gas in rubles would not violate sanctions, the EU insists that it has not changed its position and considers the mechanism a violation. "Anything that goes beyond opening an account in the currency of the contract with Gazprombank and making a payment to this account, and then issuing a statement that you believe that you have completed the payment, is contrary to the sanctions" - this is the position of the European Commission, and it will stick to it.
4. As early as May 20, Russia may begin the next stage of reducing gas supplies to the EU countries. Shutdowns may affect companies that have waived the requirement to pay in rubles.
5. Petty and disgusting, out of habit, Russia "revenge" Finland. For its absolutely logical decision to join NATO, Russia cut off the supply of electricity. Well, how about without abominations and meanness!? I didn’t do meanness - it’s a useless day for Russia

Those. in fact, nothing grandiose, of your expectations did not happen. No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

[be.open]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

today May 22nd. The results of your predictions, not through the prism of Russian propaganda, but as they are in reality (we know that these are diametrically opposed data, right? )
So.
1. Finland, because of the tantrums of the Kremlin's half-witted pathetic copy of Hitler, refuses to purchase Russian gas, because - for rubles. Everything, Finland will freeze, they will know how to join NATO! They'll crawl on their knees! We can repeat! Oh It's the previously listened to news from Russia that broke out from me In fact, Russian gas in Finland is an inconspicuous loss. For the Finns have not heated their homes with gas for a long time, and the share of Russian gas in total supplies is only 5% But Russia is still reducing its income, once again shooting itself in the foot. By the way, Finland, represented by Gasum, is suing Gazprom-Export, because of the demand to violate contracts and pay for gas. Given the position of the European Commission, the result is predictable
2. EU. Another 10 companies from the countries-"hand dogs" of the Kremlin terrorists (Germany, Italy, Hungary) have opened ruble accounts in Gazprombank. Opened. But only some companies from Germany made the payment. Everything ! EU on its knees! We can repeat! Everyone will freeze without our gas! The ruble is the most stable! Oh Again, propaganda from the rush-media climbs
Have you noticed - I'm not afraid to write facts that contradict my interests, views, and I don't slide into propaganda fantasies?! Get experience! To be honest, or not to be a victim of propaganda - it's easy!
3. The European Union said that gas companies would violate sanctions if they opened bank accounts in rubles to buy Russian gas.
Despite attempts by Gazprom to convince buyers in the EU that paying for gas in rubles would not violate sanctions, the EU insists that it has not changed its position and considers the mechanism a violation. "Anything that goes beyond opening an account in the currency of the contract with Gazprombank and making a payment to this account, and then issuing a statement that you believe that you have completed the payment, is contrary to the sanctions" - this is the position of the European Commission, and it will stick to it.
4. As early as May 20, Russia may begin the next stage of reducing gas supplies to the EU countries. Shutdowns may affect companies that have waived the requirement to pay in rubles.
5. Petty and disgusting, out of habit, Russia "revenge" Finland. For its absolutely logical decision to join NATO, Russia cut off the supply of electricity. Well, how about without abominations and meanness!? I didn’t do meanness - it’s a useless day for Russia

Those. in fact, nothing grandiose, of your expectations did not happen. No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

Buyers of more than 70% of gas from the Russian Federation in Europe are switching to a new payment scheme

[bitgov]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

I think every country rise after having a war. But these days there are many solution available the lords can go for dialogue. Because in war both the country loose - they lose so many precious lives - the effect remains forever. This is now stone age where people used to war with swords and only those at the battlefield were affected.

[laredo7mm]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

[rahmatrf331]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

Western countries desperately need importers of gas and oil from Russia. as if they didn't need it, in another session they imposed tough sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. In that event they wanted to bring down the Russian economy, but without realizing it they were caught in the batman trap of the Russian state, what a fool.

[Flexystar]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

It’s complicated and it’s getting more complicated as the sanction holds on. Just think guys, if sanctions kept forever like this, and eventually the countries started to ran out of gas would they be surviving easily? I barely doubt that will stand for long terms. Other countries like Africa and some parts of Europe does not have enough gas production and resources to fill the hunger forever. They will have to get into it eventually and accept the terms. There are seasons like rain and cold when gas is required at highest levels. So who knows for how long these things will work out.

[og kush420]

It’s complicated and it’s getting more complicated as the sanction holds on. Just think guys, if sanctions kept forever like this, and eventually the countries started to ran out of gas would they be surviving easily? I barely doubt that will stand for long terms. Other countries like Africa and some parts of Europe does not have enough gas production and resources to fill the hunger forever. They will have to get into it eventually and accept the terms. There are seasons like rain and cold when gas is required at highest levels. So who knows for how long these things will work out.

There was a debate earlier that world should impose sanctions on Russia and put them in trouble and everyone was supporting that. Now everyone is saying these sections are going to put the world in trouble - no doubt the world needs a serious outlook on the situation and solve the problem.

[laredo7mm]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

Western countries desperately need importers of gas and oil from Russia. as if they didn't need it, in another session they imposed tough sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. In that event they wanted to bring down the Russian economy, but without realizing it they were caught in the batman trap of the Russian state, what a fool.

Actually, I saw that on the news. Some European countries desperately went to some African countries to find an alternative. Actually, the most affected country in the EU is Germany. Because they have automobile factories and I think most of the big tech manufacturing hub is in Germany which desperately needed gas to run. Germany needs Russian cheap gas to survive their economy. Some expensive alternatives will not bring any solution.

[bitgov]

Actually, I saw that on the news. Some European countries desperately went to some African countries to find an alternative. Actually, the most affected country in the EU is Germany. Because they have automobile factories and I think most of the big tech manufacturing hub is in Germany which desperately needed gas to run. Germany needs Russian cheap gas to survive their economy. Some expensive alternatives will not bring any solution.

The real OPTION is dialogue - today Pk PM gave an interview to CNN where he was asked - does he regret going to Russia when they were planning to invade Ukraine? Our PM said I believe in dialogue and the who rubbish of Russia - Ukraine war falls on him.
That is so sad. Every country is suffering!

[be.open]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

[bakasabo]

Another funny favor

Polish PM Calls on Norway to Share Oil and Gas Profits Windfall. Norway is not in EU, nor in any other union. Sanctions forced resources price to jump, and now Poland complains that they have to buy expensive oil and ask to share profit. Not to mention that Polish PM blame Putin for Norway earning huge. Why would Norway share profit? As a solidarity? Everyone is now their own blacksmith of a future, every man for himself.

Sometimes it is funny to read comments and hear thought, that when war is over, everything will get back instantly. We will have cheap petrol, food once again and etc. When the war will be over, sanctions will be left. Get used to it.

[DrBeer]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

In order:
1. Ursula von der Leyen has a rich imagination, lack of complexes, and the hope that no one will notice anything and will not remember "yesterday's" statements. Does it remind you of anyone?
2. I wonder to whom Russia will be able to sell excess oil, and even at an increased price? China buys at market price minus 30-40%. Or is this, as it is customary in Russia to call such situations "negative price increases"?
3. Honestly - I'm not surprised and I believe, I won't even double-check! From Germany, after it, in the person of the ruling elite, has been appeasing the Kremlin for decades, to the detriment of the interests of the EU and Germany, you can expect anything! And even daily shifts of vectors.

[Cryptock]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

In order:
1. Ursula von der Leyen has a rich imagination, lack of complexes, and the hope that no one will notice anything and will not remember "yesterday's" statements. Does it remind you of anyone?
2. I wonder to whom Russia will be able to sell excess oil, and even at an increased price? China buys at market price minus 30-40%. Or is this, as it is customary in Russia to call such situations "negative price increases"?
3. Honestly - I'm not surprised and I believe, I won't even double-check! From Germany, after it, in the person of the ruling elite, has been appeasing the Kremlin for decades, to the detriment of the interests of the EU and Germany, you can expect anything! And even daily shifts of vectors.

In my opinion - the sanction is definitely not the right option.
Those who are putting sanctions on Russia will surely be depending on the Russia to get the oil and gas supply. What if Russia refuse to do that? Why were everyone so after Russia? Is there any power which was forcing them to do so.

[Smack That Ace]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower. 

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


regards

duke

[Slow death]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower. 

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


regards

duke

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there

[Hispo]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower.  

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


regards

duke

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there

The way I see it, even if havier sanctions are applied against Russia, they still have China as a political and economic ally to supply them anything they may need, or at least part of it and I don't see USA applying sanctions against China any time soon.

Also, I believe the deployment of troops to aid the Ukranian resistance is something the Western powers are trying to avoid, so the conflict will not escalate into a global one.

[Ozero]

Every country is trying to take advantage of others issue is the root cause of every wars, for example this Russia and Ukraine war started because of NATO extension so that existing super countries will have a spot on the other super power and may attack easily if needed so from Russia's perspective they are trying to save their border from other big nations.

At first, after a full-scale military invasion of Ukraine, Putin tried to justify his aggressive actions by saying that Ukraine was going to join NATO, and Russia cannot allow this because of the growing military threat from this alliance in this case. True, at the same time, he kept silent that there have long been NATO members on the Russian border - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Now, in the coming months, because of the war in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden may join NATO, and in this case, Russia's border with NATO countries will double. Moreover, it will be much closer from Finland to launch missiles at Moscow and St. Petersburg than even from Ukraine. And Russia only threatened Finland and calmed down. Clearly, NATO expansion is not the real reason for Russia's attack on Ukraine. Putin simply wanted to seize the territory of a neighboring state and attach it to the empire he was creating.

[Semar Mesem]

If sanctions are imposed, it can be ascertained that there will be many difficulties for more citizens, what happened to countries that were subject to sanctions such as what happened with Iraq, North Korea, Cuba and so on must be taken into consideration that human values must be considered.

[bakasabo]

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there

You want to close air space above Russia (if yes, then how is it possible?) or dont allow planes, that belong to Russian companies fly above European territory for example? Will that help, as there is neutral territory in sky, and there are countries that are still allies to Russia. On the other hand, can Russians still afford to fly? Arent tickets now extremely expensive and most cant afford regular flights, while those who can afford private flights, are no longer in Russia.

In my opinion, current sanctions against Russia does not works against who they suppose to have most effect on. Sort of a find those who are guilty and punish random, but not them.

[be.open]

Meanwhile, the European Union has introduced the seventh package of sanctions against Russia. They banned Russian gold, froze the assets of Sberbank and more than 50 new individuals and legal entities, including politicians, military leaders, oligarchs, and propagandists. I have not yet come under EU sanctions, probably I am trying badly with the spread of Russian propaganda. 

[trendcoin]

...

In the world of the fascists, wars were fought with bayonets at the front. In the world of liberals, wars are fought with sanctions that prevent competition in the economic field.

We are already in a war. I personally do not expect this war to go to any further extreme. The European countries, which accepted the defeat, agreed to buy natural gas with the Ruble. When Russia accepts that it has been defeated in some issues, new balances will be formed in the world.

Thank goodness fascists do not rule the world. Instead of the death of 100 million people, we solve our problems with global economic crises.

[Argoo]

I have never seen that sanctions will be able to influence the decision of a country that invasion, precisely sanctions will cause major humanitarian problems in the long run, it is time for the world to think that without sanctions can stop the war.

Sanctions are essentially very mild pressure on the aggressor. In fact, in this case, the states tell the aggressor country that you are doing bad things, and therefore we will not trade with you and have other common affairs. The meaning of the sanctions is that, by voluntarily giving up part of their profits, many countries cause serious economic damage to a country that violates the established general norms of behavior.

Another form of effective public response to the fact of an attack like that made by Russia could be to come together and launch a common military strike against the aggressor. True, there is also a third option: not to notice the fact of aggression. But everyone understands: today they attacked a neighbor, and tomorrow they will attack you, and no one will intervene. Therefore, you need to choose between the first and second option.

The Putin regime tried to avoid these variants of public reaction by seizing the territory of Ukraine in 3-5 days at lightning speed and forcing its political leadership to sign extremely unfavorable conditions and abandoning any claims against the aggressor. But Ukraine, through a stubborn struggle for its independence, violated these plans. Therefore, the first option is still working in the form of sanctions and all kinds of assistance to Ukraine, except for the participation of its troops in this war.

[minime0105]

Meanwhile, the European Union has introduced the seventh package of sanctions against Russia. They banned Russian gold, froze the assets of Sberbank and more than 50 new individuals and legal entities, including politicians, military leaders, oligarchs, and propagandists. I have not yet come under EU sanctions, probably I am trying badly with the spread of Russian propaganda. 

I think they are doing this because of the problem between Russia and Ukraine but all this they doing it is not supposed to be in that form because of Russia is being silent also Russia rice against Ukraine if every nation is psychosocial that means that we know whom all-russia in my own suggestion I think that the best thing to do is to find way to make the matter between Russia and Ukraine to be settled and make a building without being think bias by siding one another

[DrBeer]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

The problem is that you made a mistake at the very beginning, equating reparation payments with sanctions. And then the rest of the discussion was built on this erroneous opinion. Reparations are retribution for a crime committed. The aggression of Germany led to a huge number of victims, and the reparations became a good flogging for the entire population of Germany, and an occasion to think whether it is worth supporting the bastard rulers.
Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

[mm2543363580]

Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

The thing is - it is true that the sanction is not the right option.
I said that so many times earlier. EU is not putting Russia in trouble but they are putting their own self and other countries in trouble.
They have pressurised Pakistan and Sri Lanka to vote against Russia - and when they didn't - they changed the government- what a mess going on those two countries too.

[bakasabo]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

[og kush420]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

It seems Russia don't even care about the sanctions, the sanctions are not affecting the Russia.  If the sanctions are affecting Russia badly they would have giving up on the war , it looks as if the sanctions is not working on them. The war  is becoming long no one knows when Russia will quit the war.

EU and USA tried to dragged the whole world in the Ukraine and Russia war.
Sri lanaka and Pakistan wanted to remind neutral but they faced the serious consequences for not jumping into this war. Now everyone is trouble due to inflation and Biden is rushing to Saudia for help.

[Wong Gendheng]

I am sure that more Russians who disagree with the government who invasion to Ukraine, if the world applies strict economic sanctions, of course those who are innocent and love peace are also affected, it is better to persuade the government to immediately stop the war.

[Ozero]

World has been involved into Russian-Ukrainian war for half a year and it looks like it is time to make some conclusions. Half year of sanctions against Russia and Europe has faced gas, petrol and electricity problems. Manufacturers arent happy with trades also. On the other hand, some companies and countries continue to trade with Russia, despite sanctions. So are sanctions really that helpful?

It seems Russia don't even care about the sanctions, the sanctions are not affecting the Russia.  If the sanctions are affecting Russia badly they would have giving up on the war , it looks as if the sanctions is not working on them. The war  is becoming long no one knows when Russia will quit the war.

Russia doesn't give a damn about sanctions. This is clear. It was the original tactic to deny the obvious so that the world would lose faith in their application. Sanctions are doing their job and this is already noticeable in many sectors of Russia. For example, in the aircraft industry, Russia will very soon lose its aircraft due to the inability to service them. This applies even to those 600 aircraft that she did not want to return after leasing because the Kremlin clearly knew that the problems would grow.
The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately. After all, sanctioned goods remain in warehouses in Russia for some time, and at first there may still be loopholes to bypass them. But given that almost half a year has already passed after their application, with each subsequent month their influence will increase.
Oil and gas prices are rising at first, as the logistics routes for their supplies are disrupted, but this is a temporary phenomenon. In the future, Russia will definitely lose.

[bakasabo]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

[mm2543363580]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

Now who is next in line. That is Taiwan. And I have seen 80 years old representative coming to Taiwan and supporting them for the war against China.
Now they are ready to create another mess after Russia.
Let every country fight their own battle and leave the whole world alone for time being.

[DrBeer]

Regarding Russia, the world has become a little smarter, although it has not yet reached the desired level ... But already now, in order to weaken those who decided to repeat the path of Nazism, they are introducing restrictions that weaken the economy. These are sanctions. But after Russia collapses (and this is a matter of a fairly near future), this under-empire will be for many decades to come, eat grass and pay debts, for death, terror, violation of moral / ethical standards and other crimes against humanity. Yes, they were lucky when they unleashed a massacre in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and other countries - then they got away with it. Now it won't come off!

The thing is - it is true that the sanction is not the right option.
I said that so many times earlier. EU is not putting Russia in trouble but they are putting their own self and other countries in trouble.
They have pressurised Pakistan and Sri Lanka to vote against Russia - and when they didn't - they changed the government- what a mess going on those two countries too.

You do not quite correctly perceive the sanctions. Everyone knows that this is a "double-edged sword". And when they are introduced, they perfectly understand that the one who imposes them will also have a partial negative effect. BUT. In today's situation, sanctions are an inoculation. An inoculation against connections with bastard "partners" who use language, oil and gas for terror. Therefore, those who impose sanctions will be uncomfortable for some time. But this is retribution for previous mistakes. But after a while, they will forever lose points of risk, such as a gas supplier-terrorist, to whom a key industry somehow unexpectedly turned out to be tied. Yes, for example, for Germany, 2023-2024 will be very difficult, and may lead to a change in the status of the "locomotive of Europe", to "well, nothing, somehow they will survive, let's express, 2 times, concern" You have to pay for all the mistakes, sometimes expensive price.
And again, BUT: But in the end, the country of the world terrorist will be reduced to the state of China's raw material appendage, and then, if you're lucky, maintain its integrity!
But if you don’t know, countries that don’t sell their interests also imposed sanctions on the terrorist country, found a way out quite easily, and they will endure the winter of 2022/2023 calmly

[Fatunad]

The effectiveness of sanctions cannot be seen immediately.

That is what I wanted to point out. Half a year has passed. Those who made sanctions against Russia is now in a worst situation than before sanctions. When then those sanctions would start to give first positive effect on those who nominate them?

Your phrase means that we just need to wait and Russia will start to feel negative impact from sanctions. But Russia isnt sitting still. Who knows what they are doing and developing right now? Lots has moved from Russia, including foreign agents and informers. No we know less what is going on in Russia.

No one really knows yet there were no news or information that surfaced out in talking about on whats happening internally in Russia thats why we cant really make
out presumptions whether they are on the verge of difficulties or simply just laughing and doesnt really care about sanctions and cutting off ties with other countries.
The war isnt over yet and still continuing which does indicate at least that they are holding strong despite of those sanctions or other related things against Russia.
Im not belittling this country but it is really just hard to believe that they could really withstand with this kind of situation.

[be.open]

No one really knows yet there were no news or information that surfaced out in talking about on whats happening internally in Russia thats why we cant really make
out presumptions whether they are on the verge of difficulties or simply just laughing and doesnt really care about sanctions and cutting off ties with other countries.
The war isnt over yet and still continuing which does indicate at least that they are holding strong despite of those sanctions or other related things against Russia.
Im not belittling this country but it is really just hard to believe that they could really withstand with this kind of situation.

I live in Russia and can share my opinion about Western sanctions. They have not affected everyday life in any way: food, gasoline, electricity, heating, the Internet, bank cards and other things that you encounter every day - everything is available and costs about the same as six months ago. There is no reason to panic or hysteria. The biggest discomfort from the sanctions, I personally had about coffee, in the spring it has risen sharply in price by 3-4 times, and so far the price has not returned to its previous level, you have to pay about 30% more for coffee. When Western politicians said at the beginning of spring that they dropped an economic nuclear bomb on Russia and the economy was torn to shreds, it was a lie.

As for the long-term perspective, the situation is more vague. Let's wait and see, now in any region of the world it is difficult to think far ahead.

[Lubang Bawah]

Sanction will certainly make a greater impact on the country, those who are not involved with war will feel long suffering, we must find the best solution besides sanction, and many things that can be done without having to apply sanctions as happened with many countries such as Iraq , North Korea, and so on.

[inthelongrun]

Sanction will certainly make a greater impact on the country, those who are not involved with war will feel long suffering, we must find the best solution besides sanction, and many things that can be done without having to apply sanctions as happened with many countries such as Iraq , North Korea, and so on.

Will you care to explain what is supposed to be done if let's say you are the head of NATO or EU or the US/UK/France/Germany? Although I really believed that the leaders of these countries and organizations realized the huge impact of a boomerang because Europe is heavily dependent especially on Russian gas. They may find another source but it takes time and it will be more expensive because the long-term goal is clean energy. I felt bad for Ukraine but this war will end in defeat.

Iran despite heavy sanctions is still breathing and is actually not that poor due to their huge gas and oil which are sold secretly at discounted prices. North Korea is bleeding financially. But unlike Iran, North Korea has its own nukes which is why they cannot be touched easily by its enemies.
 

[Fortify]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.

You contradict your own headline in the very first sentence that you posted in the thread. Sanctions do not work in the short term, but medium and long term Russia is already facing a severe economic shock to come. It's last major export is gas and oil, yet it has shown that it is a very unreliable partner when it comes to energy exports so that source of revenue will dry up. It has substantial currency reserves, but it is also funding a very expensive war right now and once it burns through all the cash it will have very little economic production. Unfortunately Putin has chosen the way of the madman, Europe was at relative peace for many decades and it is the average Russia who will suffer the consequences while he sits around in his lavish palaces throughout retirement and hundreds of thousands of people spill blood for no reason.

[Smack That Ace]

it is better to persuade the government to immediately stop the war.

This doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon, no one wants to stop this fight until the goal is achieved.
Russia getting bogged down in the war is a big win for the US government and look at how they pumped weapons into the Ukrainian military. They pretend that they are assisting Ukraine in defending the country but actually they want to prolong the war, the longer the war lasts, the weaker Russia becomes and that is their goal.

Everyone in the world wants this war to stop, but I still don't see any signal that this war will stop. Who will be the first to give in? or this war will stop when the US government wants to.

[amishmanish]

We need a international system wherein we need to punish leaders not the nation's. What wrong did common Russians or Iranians had committed to suffer sanctions. NATO at the door of Russia, and Russia hits Ukraine...this could had been prevented and Manny ukrainian lives could have been saved. Only if common sense had prevailed.

[Cryptock]

We need a international system wherein we need to punish leaders not the nation's. What wrong did common Russians or Iranians had committed to suffer sanctions. NATO at the door of Russia, and Russia hits Ukraine...this could had been prevented and Manny ukrainian lives could have been saved. Only if common sense had prevailed.

I was of the same option since the start of the war.
How many countries USA has bombed - yet they are superpower no sanctions. This is will keep going on when powerful will suppress the weak and there will be innocent killing and hatred in the world

[Argoo]

We need a international system wherein we need to punish leaders not the nation's. What wrong did common Russians or Iranians had committed to suffer sanctions. NATO at the door of Russia, and Russia hits Ukraine...this could had been prevented and Manny ukrainian lives could have been saved. Only if common sense had prevailed.

I was of the same option since the start of the war.
How many countries USA has bombed - yet they are superpower no sanctions. This is will keep going on when powerful will suppress the weak and there will be innocent killing and hatred in the world

And how should the leaders be punished, not the nation? Are these the same sanctions? That is, everything that is necessary for the continuation of the war will come to Russia from other countries, and the sanctions will apply to Putin and his entourage? For example, let's deprive Putin of imported cars and household appliances. Will they continue to flow into Russia and at the same time be banned from Putin? Doesn't this seem funny? It is enough for these leaders not to have bank accounts and real estate abroad, and these leaders will not give a damn about sanctions.
On the other hand, is the nation of Russians really not to blame for the fact that civilians are dying every day in Ukraine, their homes, schools, hospitals, etc. are being destroyed. This is not done by the nation of Russians? Maybe Ukraine is attacked by aliens? Or are they husbands, children, fathers and brothers of those "innocent" Russians? And about 300 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who are being killed in Ukraine, are they also innocent?
Something in Russia is not visible at all mass protests against the war. And according to polls, more than half of the "innocent" residents of Russia support Putin's actions to seize Ukraine. No, all citizens of Russia should bear responsibility for this.

[be.open]

On the other hand, is the nation of Russians really not to blame for the fact that civilians are dying every day in Ukraine, their homes, schools, hospitals, etc. are being destroyed. This is not done by the nation of Russians? Maybe Ukraine is attacked by aliens? Or are they husbands, children, fathers and brothers of those "innocent" Russians? And about 300 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who are being killed in Ukraine, are they also innocent?
Something in Russia is not visible at all mass protests against the war. And according to polls, more than half of the "innocent" residents of Russia support Putin's actions to seize Ukraine. No, all citizens of Russia should bear responsibility for this.

I am glad that you openly express your fascist views here on the forum.

[Argoo]

On the other hand, is the nation of Russians really not to blame for the fact that civilians are dying every day in Ukraine, their homes, schools, hospitals, etc. are being destroyed. This is not done by the nation of Russians? Maybe Ukraine is attacked by aliens? Or are they husbands, children, fathers and brothers of those "innocent" Russians? And about 300 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who are being killed in Ukraine, are they also innocent?
Something in Russia is not visible at all mass protests against the war. And according to polls, more than half of the "innocent" residents of Russia support Putin's actions to seize Ukraine. No, all citizens of Russia should bear responsibility for this.

I am glad that you openly express your fascist views here on the forum.

These are not fascist views, so don't label them. I proceed from the fact that, in terms of the form of government, the Russian Federation is a republic where the people, the nation, are vested with the highest power in the country. The people elect or hire senior government officials to a certain position and determine the scope of their rights and duties. These officials must act within and on the basis of the Constitution, its laws and regulations. Such a social structure is fixed, with some exceptions, in all civilized states. Therefore, the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of its officials, including if a half-witted senile with imperial ambitions turns out to be in power. For such cases, the people must provide for effective forms of dismissal or recall of such an official from office. Also in this case, no state or their officials have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of a foreign state. I repeat once again: with such a structure of state power, only the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of their officials in power. Unless, of course, you consider Russia to be a monarchy in terms of the form of government - a kingdom, a kingdom, an empire, etc., where the sovereign ruler is not responsible and does not account for his actions to the people. I am a lawyer by education and profession and I know what I write. There is no manifestation of fascist views in my judgments. I do not put a certain nation on some grounds above other nations.

[Cryptock]

These are not fascist views, so don't label them. I proceed from the fact that, in terms of the form of government, the Russian Federation is a republic where the people, the nation, are vested with the highest power in the country. The people elect or hire senior government officials to a certain position and determine the scope of their rights and duties. These officials must act within and on the basis of the Constitution, its laws and regulations. Such a social structure is fixed, with some exceptions, in all civilized states. Therefore, the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of its officials, including if a half-witted senile with imperial ambitions turns out to be in power. For such cases, the people must provide for effective forms of dismissal or recall of such an official from office. Also in this case, no state or their officials have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of a foreign state. I repeat once again: with such a structure of state power, only the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of their officials in power. Unless, of course, you consider Russia to be a monarchy in terms of the form of government - a kingdom, a kingdom, an empire, etc., where the sovereign ruler is not responsible and does not account for his actions to the people. I am a lawyer by education and profession and I know what I write. There is no manifestation of fascist views in my judgments. I do not put a certain nation on some grounds above other nations.

There is one good thing I have learnt today. It can be applied personal, profesional, national and international.
And that good thing is minding your own business. Things will fall well in line.

[Lambe Ndumble]

Surely sanctions will not solve problems, citizens who do not like war will feel direct consequences, for example are financial sanctions, usually all assets and finances of residents affected by sanctions will be blocked and this is very detrimental to them, sanctions will only make problems become more complicated.

[virasisog]

Surely sanctions will not solve problems, citizens who do not like war will feel direct consequences, for example are financial sanctions, usually all assets and finances of residents affected by sanctions will be blocked and this is very detrimental to them, sanctions will only make problems become more complicated.

Sanctions will not directly hit the target but they will only make innocent people suffer. Ordinary civilians are already suffering because of the war and it will be inhuman if they would let them suffer harder because of sanctions wherein they couldn't avoid. Sanctions could never stop the war or solve conflicts. It will only make the situation worse especially for ordinary people.

[Ozero]

Surely sanctions will not solve problems, citizens who do not like war will feel direct consequences, for example are financial sanctions, usually all assets and finances of residents affected by sanctions will be blocked and this is very detrimental to them, sanctions will only make problems become more complicated.

Sanctions will not directly hit the target but they will only make innocent people suffer. Ordinary civilians are already suffering because of the war and it will be inhuman if they would let them suffer harder because of sanctions wherein they couldn't avoid. Sanctions could never stop the war or solve conflicts. It will only make the situation worse especially for ordinary people.

It is interesting to observe how many are directly outraged that as a result of the sanctions applied against the occupying country - Russia, innocent people will suffer, including in Russia itself. Sanctions are not an option? Okay, suggest options. And then, while you are whining, every day for almost half a year the whole of Ukraine has been bombarded with half-ton bombs, which kill civilians and destroy absolutely everything in Ukraine indiscriminately.

Yes, it would be much better if we had an international contingent of rapid reaction forces that, within a few days after the start of aggression, would deliver a devastating retaliatory strike of such force that other potential aggressors would never again want to attack other states militarily. But even in this case, military personnel on both sides would still die and the civilian population would die. You can't do without it.

Sanctions are the minimum that citizens of the whole world must allow so that the echo of the war does not reach them. It is better to sacrifice money and material comforts than to voluntarily or unwittingly participate in hostilities. Those who are outraged by the sanctions proceed from the position that everything is fine for them so far and should be fine in the future. And if not? If the aggressor, after the destruction of one country, goes to your country? After all, Russia is already threatening to attack at least a dozen other states.

[Hispo]

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We cannot also forget what Russian oligarchs are highly target by these sanctions the western countries are impossing, they are getting their goods seized, for example.
Also, despite of the sanctions it seems that Russian Economy is not doing as bad as I thought it would, the value of their currency is actually holding the pressure and they apparently continue to find new clients for their energy in India and China.

In the short term, Europe are also suffering the effects of these sanctions because they have not been able to replace Russian gas yet...

[alikhania]

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

[Vinaa77]

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

Those who receive the sanctions are those who are guilty or who are considered guilty without having to harm other parties such as the community. This is not about sanctions for one party or two parties, but sanctions for those who are guilty and entitled to receive them or their actions that harm many people.

[be.open]

On the other hand, is the nation of Russians really not to blame for the fact that civilians are dying every day in Ukraine, their homes, schools, hospitals, etc. are being destroyed. This is not done by the nation of Russians? Maybe Ukraine is attacked by aliens? Or are they husbands, children, fathers and brothers of those "innocent" Russians? And about 300 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who are being killed in Ukraine, are they also innocent?
Something in Russia is not visible at all mass protests against the war. And according to polls, more than half of the "innocent" residents of Russia support Putin's actions to seize Ukraine. No, all citizens of Russia should bear responsibility for this.

I am glad that you openly express your fascist views here on the forum.

These are not fascist views, so don't label them. I proceed from the fact that, in terms of the form of government, the Russian Federation is a republic where the people, the nation, are vested with the highest power in the country. The people elect or hire senior government officials to a certain position and determine the scope of their rights and duties. These officials must act within and on the basis of the Constitution, its laws and regulations. Such a social structure is fixed, with some exceptions, in all civilized states. Therefore, the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of its officials, including if a half-witted senile with imperial ambitions turns out to be in power. For such cases, the people must provide for effective forms of dismissal or recall of such an official from office. Also in this case, no state or their officials have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of a foreign state. I repeat once again: with such a structure of state power, only the people, the nation is responsible for the actions of their officials in power. Unless, of course, you consider Russia to be a monarchy in terms of the form of government - a kingdom, a kingdom, an empire, etc., where the sovereign ruler is not responsible and does not account for his actions to the people. I am a lawyer by education and profession and I know what I write. There is no manifestation of fascist views in my judgments. I do not put a certain nation on some grounds above other nations.

As a highly educated person, you cannot fail to know that the idea of the collective responsibility of an entire people resonated with Adolf Hitler.

[Cryptock]

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

the whole EU was after Russia to put sanctions - and see what has happened - their planning went in vein when they all failed.
Nothing worked out by USA and EU and USA is running to Saudi for oil and gas supply. Very funny

[Argoo]

Surely sanctions will not solve problems, citizens who do not like war will feel direct consequences, for example are financial sanctions, usually all assets and finances of residents affected by sanctions will be blocked and this is very detrimental to them, sanctions will only make problems become more complicated.

It's not enough to dislike war. Something else needs to be done so that military aggression does not come from one's own country and does not cause harm and suffering to the inhabitants of other states. Passive surveillance turns a person into an accomplice in crime and this should be remembered. And the accomplice must also be held accountable. And since Russia does not even see mass protests against the war, and more than half of its citizens approve of the military invasion of Ukraine and the bombing, as well as the constant shelling of its entire territory, there are no innocents in Russia.

Of course, sanctions alone will not solve the problem of Russian military aggression. But military and other assistance from civilized countries will help the Armed Forces of Ukraine to do this.

[DrBeer]

it is better to persuade the government to immediately stop the war.

This doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon, no one wants to stop this fight until the goal is achieved.
Russia getting bogged down in the war is a big win for the US government and look at how they pumped weapons into the Ukrainian military. They pretend that they are assisting Ukraine in defending the country but actually they want to prolong the war, the longer the war lasts, the weaker Russia becomes and that is their goal.

Everyone in the world wants this war to stop, but I still don't see any signal that this war will stop. Who will be the first to give in? or this war will stop when the US government wants to.

I will give you one simple example, from history, not fantasy and not propaganda. Remember there was such a country - the USSR. Far from ideal, but with a fairly self-sufficient (albeit backward) economy, a population, albeit not distant, but ideologically united. A country that was able to create a military-economic union of the Warsaw Pact. So, in 1979, the USSR launched a terrorist war in Afghanistan. And sanctions were imposed against the USSR. Moreover, if you read official sources, you will be surprised that they are noticeably weaker than today's sanctions against Russia. And you know what happened to the USSR? Literally in 10 years? I answer - the country ceased to exist ... The USSR had noticeably more than 10% of the world economy! They had nuclear weapons, the largest army in Europe, and the largest in the world. The country had 50%+ of the world's natural resources, and much more! I saw it all with my own eyes!
And in 2014 Russia starts the same thing. Russia, which has approximately 1.5% in the world economy (For example, this is an indicator of the GDP of Italy, or one state of California or New York )
True, the soft-bodied West decided at first not to impose sanctions, real sanctions that really create problems. Well, they expressed "concern" and forbade "selling bolts longer than 7 meters with a longitudinal thread"
But after February 24, 2022, though really somewhere from March-April, REAL sanctions began to be introduced. And now, after 3 months, the Russian economy has collapsed... In such a situation, Russia will not have 10 years, the fall will happen much faster!

[Cryptock]

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

Those who receive the sanctions are those who are guilty or who are considered guilty without having to harm other parties such as the community. This is not about sanctions for one party or two parties, but sanctions for those who are guilty and entitled to receive them or their actions that harm many people.

Sanctions did bring any good to the world. Russia is a strong country and sanctions did not bring any good result.
I was not in favour of section and getting into other war. So its good to think of their own problem rather than indulging into others problem.

[DrBeer]

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

Those who receive the sanctions are those who are guilty or who are considered guilty without having to harm other parties such as the community. This is not about sanctions for one party or two parties, but sanctions for those who are guilty and entitled to receive them or their actions that harm many people.

Sanctions did bring any good to the world. Russia is a strong country and sanctions did not bring any good result.
I was not in favour of section and getting into other war. So its good to think of their own problem rather than indulging into others problem.

Today, the world is so deeply and strongly cooperating between countries that actions on one side of the globe are guaranteed to lead to consequences on the other side. And even more so in cases where the world, having allowed the cultivation of a new Nazi regime, in the form of Kremlin rashiZm, and now everyone feels the negative from this. But if rashiZm is not strangled now, as fascism was strangled in 1945, we will soon get a new 1939 ... Then it will not be problems, but misfortune will come to every second inhabitant of the Earth ...

[Cryptock]

Then it will not be problems, but misfortune will come to every second inhabitant of the Earth ...

There is so much contrast in what the leader says- and what they say.
Life is so unpredictable and these warlord have made the lives more miserable.

[XZERO1]

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

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The thing about sanctions that many disregard these days is:

It is not a tool that is being used to put pressure on the government specifically but it is more of a way to put the pressure on civilians of that country so that they get pissed off about the financial situation that they're in because of all the sanctions and get out of their house and protest against their government, that way the country/countries that impose those sanctions get to weaken that government indirectly without having to pay much of a price themselves, but people that protested against their government and got jailed or killed pay the real price for the change in the government or merely its behavior.

It's unfortunate how this sanction thing actually works when you actually see the other layers other than the top layer of what it does to a country and its people.

[kryptocanon]

Sanctioning won't help in any way, if it does truly going to help, by now Russia should be feeling the heat but instead one way or the other they keep surviving it all. At this junction, both sides should just come together to stop the war. The more the war progresses, the more damage is caused.

[Pujangga]

Sanctions will create new problems, look at the fact that countries receive sanctions, people suffer greatly, many deaths and other difficulties, on the other hand it will make supply from countries affected by sanctions also stop so that it can create an economic recession in the long term.

[bakasabo]

In my opinion, sanctions works only if someone that impose them have sort of an advantage over sanctioned object. It is a more or less peaceful way to achieve your goal. That is why sanctions against Russia isnt working as expected. But for example against San Marino (no offence, I have randomly chosen it as one of the smallest European countries) similar sanctions will have a destructive effect. Saying that sanctions will have an effect with time is also wrong, because someone big can impose counter sanctions easily.

[DrBeer]

In my opinion, sanctions works only if someone that impose them have sort of an advantage over sanctioned object. It is a more or less peaceful way to achieve your goal. That is why sanctions against Russia isnt working as expected. But for example against San Marino (no offence, I have randomly chosen it as one of the smallest European countries) similar sanctions will have a destructive effect. Saying that sanctions will have an effect with time is also wrong, because someone big can impose counter sanctions easily.

There is another nuance here. For example, to the same San Marino, it is much easier to influence its economy, it is not so "heavy". On the one hand, the "heavy" economy has some inertia, which we see in the situation with Russia. And small savings have no inertia and the effect of sanctions on them will be reflected more strongly. BUT ! It is much easier for a small economy to raise small amounts (comparatively small) and fix the situation! But such "elephants" as the Russian economy, on the contrary, should miss the moment of economic degradation, and that's it - IRREVERSIBLE processes begin, which are either impossible to stop, or it will cost fabulous investments. Despite the fact that no one will give them, because. SANCTIONS
The Russian economy is generally a "colossus with feet of clay", it cannot work sustainably. There are many reasons: technological backwardness, total dependence on the resource market (Russia's economy is purely resource-oriented and on a global scale - it takes no more than 1.5%!), total dependence of all sectors of the economy, and even oil and gas production, on Western technologies. As of September 1, the sanctions have been working for only about 5 months!!! And the economy is already bursting at the seams, many industries are simply dying, social budgets are simply reset to zero, industrial production is falling, ... The Soviet Union, being more economically powerful compared to Russia, having its own market for selling its products / goods (Warsaw Pact countries), after the imposition of sanctions lasted 10 years! But then it still fell apart! Russia pretends that everything is fine, but in the Kremlin I am hysterically looking for a way out of an already hopeless situation! The last argument is the gas terrorism of their "friends" Germany and France! But... and it will not work.

[DrBeer]

Sanctions do not work, they are of no use ....
As Putin used to say, "sanctions are not a rubber ass for you!" )))

The humor of the situation is that full-fledged 5 months of sanctions had not yet passed, as a bald-headed terrorist from the Kremlin began to whine, and through his miserable representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, he conveyed the following:

"Peskov: Putin is ready to negotiate with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on how the "special operation" will be terminated and the observance not of the conditions, but of the interests of Russia."

Is this the stage of bargaining or accepting the inevitable? Are there experts?

PS Yes, by the way, about the "rubber ass" and Putin, this is not a fake, it's a reality: From today's speech by Putin to schoolchildren: "Industriousness is generally a separate talent, it's not just, excuse me, a rubber butt." This is an accurate quote 

[Naficopa]

Sanctions do not work, they are of no use ....
As Putin used to say, "sanctions are not a rubber ass for you!" )))

The humor of the situation is that full-fledged 5 months of sanctions had not yet passed, as a bald-headed terrorist from the Kremlin began to whine, and through his miserable representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, he conveyed the following:

"Peskov: Putin is ready to negotiate with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on how the "special operation" will be terminated and the observance not of the conditions, but of the interests of Russia."

Is this the stage of bargaining or accepting the inevitable? Are there experts?

PS Yes, by the way, about the "rubber ass" and Putin, this is not a fake, it's a reality: From today's speech by Putin to schoolchildren: "Industriousness is generally a separate talent, it's not just, excuse me, a rubber butt." This is an accurate quote 

And now USA - EU are finding alternatives for oil and gas supply
They are building new pipelines and hydrogen trains to fine the way out.
Now who is in trouble - Russia or EU?
It's good to look through your trouble and do not indulge in others trouble

[coupable]

Sanctions do not work, they are of no use ....
As Putin used to say, "sanctions are not a rubber ass for you!" )))

The humor of the situation is that full-fledged 5 months of sanctions had not yet passed, as a bald-headed terrorist from the Kremlin began to whine, and through his miserable representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, he conveyed the following:

"Peskov: Putin is ready to negotiate with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on how the "special operation" will be terminated and the observance not of the conditions, but of the interests of Russia."

Is this the stage of bargaining or accepting the inevitable? Are there experts?

PS Yes, by the way, about the "rubber ass" and Putin, this is not a fake, it's a reality: From today's speech by Putin to schoolchildren: "Industriousness is generally a separate talent, it's not just, excuse me, a rubber butt." This is an accurate quote 

And now USA - EU are finding alternatives for oil and gas supply
They are building new pipelines and hydrogen trains to fine the way out.
Now who is in trouble - Russia or EU?
It's good to look through your trouble and do not indulge in others trouble

Can you estimate how long it will take to build an international pipeline between only two countries that have a common border? Estimates say that Europe had actually sought, during the past decade, to extend a gas pipeline from the State of Qatar through neighboring countries, but of course it failed. In view of the reality of the current sanctions, the media did not report that some European countries have actually begun to ease the sanctions in the hope of obtaining facilities in gas supplies during the winter at least. Winter is coming and Europe's winter is expected to be very cold this year.

[Mario Yamasaki]

Economic sanctions will make things more complicated, many things that the world can do to stop the Russian War, and the social and humanitarian approach is of course the best solution rather than applying economic sanctions that will have a wide and massive bad impact.

[DrBeer]

While Russian propaganda is inventing new fairy tales for those who do not think much, the Ministry of Finance of the terrorist country begins to whine
"Prospects look terrible" - such is the headline of the report of the Ministry of Finance, in which they reported on the collapse of the oil and gas revenues of the Russian budget

And a little more: The gas war with Europe and the growing problems with oil exports to Asia continue to deprive the Russian budget of resource rent flows.

In August, revenues from oil and gas corporations to the federal treasury decreased for the fourth month in a row and were at the lowest level since June 2021, the Ministry of Finance reported on Friday.

Over the month, the budget collected 671.9 billion rubles of oil and gas taxes - almost 100 billion rubles less than in July, and 23.9 billion rubles less than in August 2021.

Compared to the maximum shown in April, when the budget received 1.797 trillion rubles from oil and gas against the backdrop of soaring prices and taxes last year, fees have collapsed by 2.6 times.

At the same time, oil revenues remained stable, according to data from the Ministry of Finance: despite the fact that China and India reduced purchases of Russian barrels to a minimum since the first month of the war, NPDI fees for oil increased by 40.4 billion rubles, and export duties - by 10 billion (compared to June).

However, the gas part of the budget continued to rapidly deflate along with the production and exports of Gazprom, which in August collapsed by 34% and 59%, respectively.


But as the "greatest world leader" putin said - "the economy is not a rubber ass, a rubber ass is the heads of Russians, which means propaganda is propaganda and again propaganda ... And I will quietly run away with all the money stolen from the Russians!"