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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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November 22, 2022, 08:02:04 PM
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Also, I know it's just the first matchday for Argentina, but I think this defeat is enough of a hint that Messi is not as guaranteed for the World Cup title as many people expected before the World Cup even started. They think this is the last moment for Messi before retiring to give the World Cup title to Argentina, but I'm not sure because to achieve this achievement will not be easy.
Now it's proven, even though Argentina has many star players but that still doesn't guarantee they will get the luck as expected.
I don't think every player will be guaranteed a World Cup title even if it's a star-studded team. Messi and other players will not be guaranteed the title if his team is not able to win every game during this competition.

If someone tells you Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, Neymar will be guaranteed to win the 2022 World Cup title, tell him that is nonsense. We're just going to enjoy game after game without really being able to determine who will win the title. Today Argentina lost, Arab won but I'm sure whoever you are must be very sure Argentina won the match which unfortunately lost in the end.

Even so, I also still believe that Argentina still has a chance to qualify, but to win the title I personally am not completely sure.
Because in my opinion, even though Argentina has many star players, their gameplay is not very good, so yes, they are still not strong enough to become a national team that can win the World Cup even though Messi is really expected at this moment.
Of course, there are still opportunities as currently only Saudi Arabia have managed to win in Group C. Poland and Mexico drew 0-0.

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November 22, 2022, 08:02:45 PM
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Amazing. Amazing.
2 goals were immediately replied by Saudi Arabia in approximately 5 minutes. The spirit of the Saudi Arabian players immediately increased after the first goal scored by Al-Shehri.

It looks like many bets will fail for those who place for Argentina. Indeed Argentina has a number of star players who played at big clubs, but Saudi Arabia saw a lot of changes in the match against Argentina under Herve Renard, the former coach of the Moroccan national team.

62 minutes already in the second half. What happened and what next?
What game did Saudi Arabia show? This is an incredible game.  Never expected that in today's game.  It is a shame for Argentina that they are going to lose to Saudi Arabia. Those who supported Saudi Arabia and bet on them are going to be rich today

If I could have bet some of my money on this match, I would be rich today.  But due to bad forehead I didn't bet on this match.  But it has to be accepted that those who bet in support of Saudi Arabia today are the owners of a lot of money today. I never imagined that Saudi Arabia can win this match. At the end of the game, Saudi Arabia won.
This is really very crazy, 1.02 odds against 100, This is crazy, to be sincere, alot of money was lost today, and if you had betted, maybe you would have lost your money too, because no body was expecting Saudi Arabia to win this match, from the odds, we can see that alot money went to Argentina.
The only people that would have betted for the Saudi Arabians are the Saudi Arabian supporters themselves, any sane gambler out there would never have thought that Argentina would loose this match.
But it has happened, many have learnt the bitter lesson including myself, I hope I don't make this kind of mistake next time.

What an odd of 100. I remember when friend that I had before I relocated to my present location. He is an insane gambler, he always go for such insane odds and he loses money for it but he doesn't give up. Then sometimes he gets luck and win big. I am very sure he won this bet, it is his duty, he doesn't miss such opportunities. I will search for his contact and know if he betted the match which I am sure he did unless he has quitted gambling.
Next time the book makers may choose to make more research before they set the odds.

 
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November 22, 2022, 08:16:39 PM
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Rabiot the goat, is having his best season ever and he will leave probably Juventus for free at the end of this season.

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November 22, 2022, 08:20:16 PM
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France also started badly in this match. 0-1 behind and if Australia had handled the space better it would also have become 0-2. I heard that France did not score a single goal in 2018, now they are at least 2-1 ahead. This France is not yet the team that can beat everyone, but as so often good teams start the tournament moderately. Argentina and the Netherlands were also good examples of this, only the Netherlands at least managed to win its match. I expect France will win this match, but it will have to improve in the course of the tournament to get far. I think Brazil will start better than the French.

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November 22, 2022, 08:23:41 PM
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What an odd of 100. I remember when friend that I had before I relocated to my present location. He is an insane gambler, he always go for such insane odds and he loses money for it but he doesn't give up. Then sometimes he gets luck and win big. I am very sure he won this bet, it is his duty, he doesn't miss such opportunities. I will search for his contact and know if he betted the match which I am sure he did unless he has quitted gambling.
Next time the book makers may choose to make more research before they set the odds.
They are right because Saudi Arabia's chances of winning this match are very slim as Argentina dominates the match. I somehow don't know how the 2 Arab goals happened in just a short time in the second half, and after that all the Saudi Arabian players couldn't control the ball and only lasted totally until the end of the match.

Even the statistics scored that Saudi Arabia only had 266 passes throughout the match or 2 times lower than Argentina's total bait which recorded 596 passes. Obviously this win is an opportunity for Saudi Arabia, but I believe they will lose their next 2 games against Mexico and Poland. But Argentina really has to get up to win the next 2 matches against Mexico and Poland. If Argentina failed, they would have to leave Qatar sooner than many had expected.

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November 22, 2022, 08:30:11 PM
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Yes, while you were typing, France scored another goal to take the lead.  Wink

France 2-1 Australia
9' Goodwin
27' Rabiot
32' Giroud
So the result is still the same as after 32 minutes. So 1-2 goals could still happen and normally for France, they play powerplay now. So the world champions from 2018 will win game 1. It's a question of time for the 3:1.

Edit: Okay, now it has finally happened. It was time.. every minute.

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November 22, 2022, 08:37:44 PM
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At this point, it is too early to start judging teams' performance, the world cup just started and most teams a still getting for the games ahead.

Both Argentina, and France may not have performed to expectation in their first matches, but am sure in the next games both teams are going to adjust and get things right.
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November 22, 2022, 08:38:02 PM
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Rabiot the goat, is having his best season ever and he will leave probably Juventus for free at the end of this season.
I really like the strategy and formation used by Deschamps against Australia this time, he placed a rabiot in halfback close to mbappe, rabiot provided 1 assist and 1 goal. The match isn't over yet, it looks like we'll see Francis who scores a lot of goals in this match against Australia. I feel lucky with my choice of choosing Francis after losing in the Argentina vs Saudi Arabia bet.

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November 22, 2022, 08:45:57 PM
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Rabiot the goat, is having his best season ever and he will leave probably Juventus for free at the end of this season.

A 27 years old player leaving for free, dang that is rough. Pretty sure if he keep this up, he would be on radar for some top teams. Meanwhile, Giroud is currently on 51 goals scored so far making him at the top alongside Thierry Henry. He just needs 1 more goal to surpass him then take the title for the all time top France goalscorer. Still plenty of games left for him to score though with Benzema out of the squad due to injury

 
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November 22, 2022, 08:55:25 PM
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I really like the strategy and formation used by Deschamps against Australia this time, he placed a rabiot in halfback close to mbappe, rabiot provided 1 assist and 1 goal. The match isn't over yet, it looks like we'll see Francis who scores a lot of goals in this match against Australia. I feel lucky with my choice of choosing Francis after losing in the Argentina vs Saudi Arabia bet.
However France is a tough team compared to Australia, you have to understand that. So your bet is actually not really at risk even if Australia takes the lead in the 9th minute. Now that France has taken the lead even since the first half, Australia is a team that will not qualify for the next round if their strategy game is as bad as this match.

For now, 4-1 for French victory. Giroud scored 2 goals, Rabiot and Mbappe each scored 1 goal. Safe for France now.

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November 22, 2022, 09:02:53 PM
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This is a warning for all the big teams, that don't devalue their opponents.
Argentina only failed to score because of the dense defense of Saudi Arabia, they were only lucky with the most boring strategy during the match. But I don't think Argentina underestimated Saudi Arabia, and this defeat really shook the world. Argentina's defense failed to anticipate counter-attacks and 2 Arab goal opportunities, that's their real weakness.
Still, this has a lot of influence because regardless of how Saudi Arabia plays with its scheme, it is clear that 3 points in the first match against a highly favored club can be a good capital for them to navigate this world cup.
They were one of the unfavorables because obviously there were Poland and Argentina but now they are top after Poland and Mexico drew.

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November 22, 2022, 09:03:40 PM
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Are you also looking forward to the start of this World Cup in Qatar?

And what about betting?
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Well personally, I am a person who since I was a child was a big fan of soccer, in fact I always wanted to play in my national team, but because when I was little I did not have the physique, (I was too thin and somewhat weak) I had to dedicate myself to another discipline without neglecting soccer, from 3-4 years I consider that I played a lot, but when I asked to be put into soccer they didn't put me in for the same reason, so I opted to play in the street and practice hapkido and something boxing, but in the case that if they had gotten me I'm sure I would have taken my team to the World Cup, it's something I know, however the love I have for this sport is great, the bets!? Yes, I really don't know how to bet, I want to see which players will reach this World Cup without injuries, but I think Brazil, Germany, Portugal, France, Argentina and Croatia will be the teams that will shine the most for me, I think I'll put winners in their games.

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I understand very well what you are saying in reference to practicing, since I was little I had the opportunity to start in all the categories, children C, B, A and under 17, but almost as an adult the responsibilities and dedication that one must have are very difficult, it is not easy to be an athlete even at an amateur level.

Football is beautiful when you experience it that way, but the great thing about football is that you don't need to practice or play it to get excited as a spectator.

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From what he says you must play very well then, coming from all those categories it is because they have taught you from academies and that knowledge is very good, because it is well rooted, I would also love to coincide one day, balance and play soccer, although to be Honestly, right now I have to catch up, I have to do a lot of physical work, because if I start playing in the conditions I'm in, I think that in less than 10 minutes I won't be able to take much running, and to play soccer you need to be in very good physical condition, except running a lot without getting very tired, something that is very difficult and maintaining strength.

Rabiot the goat, is having his best season ever and he will leave probably Juventus for free at the end of this season.
I really like the strategy and formation used by Deschamps against Australia this time, he placed a rabiot in halfback close to mbappe, rabiot provided 1 assist and 1 goal. The match isn't over yet, it looks like we'll see Francis who scores a lot of goals in this match against Australia. I feel lucky with my choice of choosing Francis after losing in the Argentina vs Saudi Arabia bet.

I think that now we must make a break with what has happened in these last games, especially with the stars that we expect the most, the case of Argentina is something that confused many and caused them to lose many thousands of dollars, I am one of the people who got up early to see that game, because it promised a lot, above all I thought it was going to be a festival of goals from Argentina, but I really like the football that Saudi Arabia showed, it can be seen that the Arabs have improved a lot, it is that they played with great ease, I don't know if they played like that it was because they were on their land, but the first time I see Argentina lose against a team that most people considered easy to get the points and a very strong Saudi Arabia, power style.

Well, and Messi's message to the controversial goalkeeper Emiliano (who was eaten this time):

Lionel Messi delivers message to Emi Martinez and Argentina dressing room after World Cup shock



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His captain Messi – who became just the fifth player to score in four different World Cups – cut a frustrated figure after Tuesday’s shock loss in the Group C clash. “It is a very hard blow for everyone,” Messi said. “We did not expect to start this way. Things happen for a reason.

“We have to prepare for what is coming, we have to win, and it depends on us. There are no excuses. We are going to be more united than ever. This group is strong, and we have shown it. It is a situation that we haven’t gone through in a long time. Now we have to show that this is a real group.

Source: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lionel-messi-argentina-world-cup-25578970

Well, today was a day of very diverse matches, the draw between Denmark 0 Vs Tunisia 0, Mexico 0 and Poland 0, but the total class that France showed, is a team that is at a great level, France 4 Australia 1, nothing badly, and playing without his Ballon d'Or, "El Gatico Benzema"



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November 22, 2022, 09:23:57 PM
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Maybe France didn't start the game well, but who cares if you then score 4 goals in a row? That also shows how good France is. And when you consider how much individual quality that team has, only Brazil might be better. With this victory, France is almost certain of the next round. For most teams, they easily get through the group, but Argentina could be a big problem. You can also lose against Mexico and Poland if you don't play well and then you are out. Great performance for Girous, who was supposed not to play because Benzema was preferred.

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November 22, 2022, 09:30:27 PM
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Australia lost, nothing to he ashamed about that for a fact, they were playing against the defensive champions of the world cup, a team with some of the best players in the world so, Australia wasn't expected to win.
It was good they pose such a challenge, took the lead in the early minutes of the first half with some superb goal but as France would have it, Andrien Rabiot came up with the equaliser and soon created the perfect assist for Olivier Giroud on with all he had to do and score was just to touch the ball.
I almost thought K. Mbappe wasn't going to find his chance with all the opportunities he missed but, I think his persistence gave him an opportunity to come up on the score sheet.
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November 22, 2022, 09:36:17 PM
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Maybe France didn't start the game well, but who cares if you then score 4 goals in a row? That also shows how good France is. And when you consider how much individual quality that team has, only Brazil might be better. With this victory, France is almost certain of the next round. For most teams, they easily get through the group, but Argentina could be a big problem. You can also lose against Mexico and Poland if you don't play well and then you are out. Great performance for Girous, who was supposed not to play because Benzema was preferred.

It was a good game and a thrilling victory for France who has come from a goal down to score 4 against Australia, and kick start their world cup tournament. The win leaves France firmly at the top of the group with 3 points, while Tunisia and Denmark shared the spoils in a goalless draw earlier in the day. Can France retain the worldcup trophy ?
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November 22, 2022, 09:36:29 PM
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Maybe France didn't start the game well, but who cares if you then score 4 goals in a row? That also shows how good France is. And when you consider how much individual quality that team has, only Brazil might be better. With this victory, France is almost certain of the next round. For most teams, they easily get through the group, but Argentina could be a big problem. You can also lose against Mexico and Poland if you don't play well and then you are out. Great performance for Girous, who was supposed not to play because Benzema was preferred.

Impressed with how they turn two goals in immediately in the first half but the first few minutes showws how France had no midfeld in the game. Australia made good use of that by scoring first but that didn't see or make the World Cup defending Champions loose focus.
Giroud was available to deliver in the absence of Karim Benzema who missed the chance play at Doha due to late injury. Good win for France, they should prepare very well for what's coming.
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November 22, 2022, 09:58:19 PM
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For most teams, they easily get through the group, but Argentina could be a big problem. You can also lose against Mexico and Poland if you don't play well and then you are out. Great performance for Girous, who was supposed not to play because Benzema was preferred.

Argentina is in big trouble, it is clear from the first match loss at the start of their World Cup mission. Argentina suffered the most from the offside trap and the result of the match showed just how bad it could have been. With the way Mexico and Poland played the match and drew the match, Argentina's worries about advancing to the next round have increased as the road looks tougher now. Mexico's goalkeeper saved a penalty and changed the outcome of the match.

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November 22, 2022, 09:59:32 PM
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It's been an interesting match dag life for sure, where we saw Argentina lose to Saudi Arabia in a 1:2 goals respectively with Saudi Arabia coming from behind to win the match. The first goal just shouldn't have gone through as it was taken from an uncomfortable spot but, somehow, the goalkeeper couldn't manage it and the we had Salem with an incredible finish between 4 defenders and still gets to place the ball in the net.

Denmark just couldn't contend with Tunisia. Its a point well earned for Tunisia and a good game even though it was a draw. They should have won, given by the many chances they created but, the Denish goalkeeper was just a saving grace for his team today.

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November 22, 2022, 10:01:27 PM
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Watched the whole Argentina vs Saudi Arabia match. I was so impressed by their tactical masterclass. They played a high line of defense with subtle offside traps, and Argentina got a whopping 7 offside in the first half alone, more than they got in their entire 2018 World Cup run with three goals disallowed.

The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.

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November 22, 2022, 10:11:28 PM
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For most teams, they easily get through the group, but Argentina could be a big problem. You can also lose against Mexico and Poland if you don't play well and then you are out. Great performance for Girous, who was supposed not to play because Benzema was preferred.

Argentina is in big trouble, it is clear from the first match loss at the start of their World Cup mission. Argentina suffered the most from the offside trap and the result of the match showed just how bad it could have been. With the way Mexico and Poland played the match and drew the match, Argentina's worries about advancing to the next round have increased as the road looks tougher now. Mexico's goalkeeper saved a penalty and changed the outcome of the match.
Argentina's defeat was inseparable from the precise strategy carried out by Saudi Arabia, and they did it very consistently. based on these results, I believe Argentina will come up with more strategies and variations of attacks to overcome the offside trap. this was something unexpected for Argentina which is used to playing fast from their wings.



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