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There is no obligation to gamble. A gambler is completely independent here. If the gambler is able to take gambling as the center of his entertainment then the gambler is successful there. As opposed to, if one is addicted to the opposite of entertainment, his failure will be constant.
Generally people involved in gambling have such thoughts, stupid people think gambling is something that should be done every day or an obligation, actually every individual has the right to decide and decide whether they want to gamble or not, Independence is one of the main thoughts that must be upheld in the world of gambling, so that they are not easily frustrated when they lose and when they win they can control themselves. So what are your thoughts? lets discuss.
I've read about the history of gambling, in the ancient Greek era, I like to read things like you show in this topic, from the ancient era to the era of sophisticated technology, I hope the world of gambling can be remembered for all time from the beginning until now.
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September 11, 2022, 03:16:38 PM |
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In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.
I do not agree with this. While it is true that some individuals are more vulnerable to becoming addicted to gambling, the reality is that anyone can develop a gambling addiction. The Internet has made it incredibly easy for people to engage in online gambling, which increases the risk of addiction because it provides constant access to the activity, and makes it easier to conceal the activity from others. Research has shown that individuals who are addicted gamblers feel a false sense of control while they are engaged in these activities and it has very little to do with whether the gambler experienced a big win or not.
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September 11, 2022, 08:07:44 PM |
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That is why, as I have said before, in many threads, if people managed to see the game as a means of entertainment, there would be no cases of addiction, because addiction begins when the player has the overwhelming need to win or win no matter what, and since sometimes when you play with a lot of pressure you usually lose, you can't do anything else, and that desperation makes the player more frustrated and when he tries to win he loses, the problem with this is that he lends money, asks for money from their friends, family, and many problems associated with money and the way they play begin, they cannot control greed.
I agree with the bold line because what we need when playing gambling is how to make and use gambling as entertainment so that we will not be dissolved in gambling. If everyone realized this, they would not spend much money and could stop on time to reduce their money loss while gambling. But unfortunately, not many people can control this and even get frustrated when they lose control and see losing money in front of them. And if they win a lot of money, they get greedy and forget that what they got was because of luck. Somehow I disagree with the bold line. anything can become an addiction, even an entertainment-seeking purpose on a game can be addicting. We have seen lots of kids getting addicted to certain games, so even without gambling, a person can be addicted to a game.
Here is another gambling history note. In the year 1978, May of 26 (Memorial Day weekend) the first casino open in Atlantic City. It was reported that players waited over two hours in line just to get inside.[1]
[1] https://www.funtrivia.com/en/Entertainment/Casinos-Gambling-6258_4.htmlThank you very much for the article, I really said the above ´because the moment people see the game as a job, they will feel pressure and in turn a lot of stress, especially when the results are not seen in the game, dear, if we look a way to entertain ourselves, something like when you play the play station, or you play just to have fun, the emotion goes away, well at least that happens to me, maybe at first you play often, but when there is money at risk than fun it turns into desperation wanting to get back or make more money, and I think that's when the addiction starts. The problem of getting more money when it runs out, and there is nowhere to get it, is when they start lending money, getting into debt, the issue gets complicated.
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September 11, 2022, 09:54:51 PM |
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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.
Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling. There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose. Every gambling games has a tendency of being enlisted on casino games regardless of it operational mode as long as it serving it purpose on gamblers, that's why one of the reasons you find them all in common is because they share similar name in the area of being used as game which also referred to as gambling games, also, we cannot derive a conclusion in saying poker is not a gambling game because everyone games has it own risk and luck as well both the proportion is ehat makes the difference.
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September 12, 2022, 07:31:45 AM |
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In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.
I do not agree with this. While it is true that some individuals are more vulnerable to becoming addicted to gambling, the reality is that anyone can develop a gambling addiction. The Internet has made it incredibly easy for people to engage in online gambling, which increases the risk of addiction because it provides constant access to the activity, and makes it easier to conceal the activity from others. Research has shown that individuals who are addicted gamblers feel a false sense of control while they are engaged in these activities and it has very little to do with whether the gambler experienced a big win or not. This is very similar to what I have read, it is true there are people that have tendencies which make them more vulnerable to fall and become addicted to gambling, but that doesn't mean this is something the rest of the population is immune to it, anyone under the wrong circumstances could become addicted to gambling, alcohol or illegal drugs, it is because of this that we need to always be very vigilant and at the slightest sign that there is something wrong with our attitude towards gambling we need to stop immediately.
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September 12, 2022, 10:29:02 AM |
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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.
Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling. There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose. Interesting. Just take a minute and try to answer this question: The odds of winning in poker are better than in purely luck based games or worse? And the answer is, it is better for some people and worse for others. Skilled poker players obviously have better odds than inexperienced ones. Sure thing, there are freaks using poker as pure gambling. They are going all in all the time, irritating everyone around, and sometimes they succeed. But most of the time they don't finish in the paid places.
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September 12, 2022, 02:44:55 PM |
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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.
Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling. There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose. Every gambling games has a tendency of being enlisted on casino games regardless of it operational mode as long as it serving it purpose on gamblers, that's why one of the reasons you find them all in common is because they share similar name in the area of being used as game which also referred to as gambling games, also, we cannot derive a conclusion in saying poker is not a gambling game because everyone games has it own risk and luck as well both the proportion is ehat makes the difference. Gambling is an attraction - and people want to play in quest to be rich - but sometime the table are turned and instead of becoming rich - people end up in loan. There are various ways people are scammed. One someone run away with your loan money and you gamble with your loan money and loose. Both are the same the same. YOu end up paying for loan and get nothing in return Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.
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Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture. the most visible contrast (between gambling addicts and not) is that those addicts no longer have logic and will always make wrong decisions, I have seen many cases where when addicts who borrow money cannot pay, the addict's family is Bills, the history of gambling also tells that many gamblers in the past committed crimes and even deceit just to be able to fulfill their gambling desires. gambling with responsibility will never be done by gambling addicts forever. That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.
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Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling. There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.
Interesting. Just take a minute and try to answer this question: The odds of winning in poker are better than in purely luck based games or worse? And the answer is, it is better for some people and worse for others. Skilled poker players obviously have better odds than inexperienced ones. Sure thing, there are freaks using poker as pure gambling. They are going all in all the time, irritating everyone around, and sometimes they succeed. But most of the time they don't finish in the paid places. Obviously skilled ones will not end up with a problem, they will most of the time end up winning but in the end it is still gambling and even the worst gambler could end up getting lucky here and there. This is why I believe that you should never consider gambling as a profession, doesn't matter what kind of situation you are in, doesn't matter what you are trying to do, if you want to make money from gambling then you should stay away from it. I believe that the best way to enjoy gambling is to consider the money you deposited as gone, then start trying to have fun with that money because you just spent some money and you want some fun in return of that money. That makes more sense right?
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September 12, 2022, 04:47:23 PM |
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Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.
Right on point. The reason why I think those people decide to take away their life is may be because they think that by ending their life the debt will go away with them. The fact is that in "some" cases it indeed goes away with the person because their families completely deny of the loan to be paid. But in the rest of the cases their families are forced by the owners to pay them back the loan taken by the person. All of this could be avoided if that person simply uses a risk management strategy and only loses what he can afford to lose.
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September 12, 2022, 10:21:18 PM |
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Gambling does not have a history because gambling is something we don't know when it starts and the country gambling starts from, what ever we are talking of gambling is on our own, when we talk of gambling we are talking what will give us entanglement, and if we say gambling started from somewhere how did other countries notice of gambling since social media were not existing that period and that should be what we supposed to understand.
What are you trying to say here? Even when gambling just started a day and poofed in a day, it can still have history. History is something that happen that is related to the subject matter. And the subject here is gambling. Gambling history can be traces thousands of year ago, and you can read about some of it on OP. If you are trying to say something new about gambling, make sure it is acceptable. Though social media isn't available by that time, there are traces of evidence and even writings and drawings that tells gambling exist during those times.
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September 12, 2022, 10:50:36 PM |
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That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.
Addiction is quite danger, but it is possible to stay within the limits. Around the World most of the suicides were taking place out of money problem and this is not just about gambling money. Gambling in some cases have helped them recover financial struggle and in some cases it have made them go deep into financial problems. Until we don't have our control gambling is not the choice of entertainment for anyone.
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September 12, 2022, 11:13:08 PM |
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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game.
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September 13, 2022, 12:16:20 AM |
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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game. People should have this kind of mindset that not everyday would be a profitable or winning day even if we do say that we are dealing with strategic based ones which we know that we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just normal that you would lose certain games on possible day which you should really make yourself that accept those probabilities so that you wont really get disappointed or something like that because if not then it would really be creating that kind of desperation inside.
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September 13, 2022, 02:12:06 AM |
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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game. People should have this kind of mindset that not everyday would be a profitable or winning day even if we do say that we are dealing with strategic based ones which we know that we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just normal that you would lose certain games on possible day which you should really make yourself that accept those probabilities so that you wont really get disappointed or something like that because if not then it would really be creating that kind of desperation inside. Indeed. It should be known to all that everyday is not a good day in gambling. There will really be times that the odds won't be on your side and that's totally okay because after all, there is just a certain percentage where you will win. No matter how good your strategy is, most of the time, the higher edge is on the house. There are just certain percentage of RTP which is beyond your control as a player. So definitely, there would be days that you will lose but do not let it eat you up. You shouldn't be shaken for a loss that you have bet because if ever you will be easily shaken, you'll end up chasing that loss until you no longer notice that you keep on losing your funds continuously. Desperation of winning will just get you bankrupt. It won't do you anything good most especially if you do not possess the right mental headspace to handle the stress. If ever you lose, do not let your emotions control you. Remember to do proper risk assessment and management. Let yourself cool down and do not engage in further activities if you know you can't handle any more betting stress.
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September 13, 2022, 02:18:44 AM |
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... On the early days of the US many of the public projects were financed by the use of lotteries, it is quite odd why at some point in time it became illegal when they had such a huge influence on the early days of the nation.
But eventually it made a comeback thanks in part to the organized crime which financed the construction and the development of Las Vegas, which is now one of the most important touristic spots on the US.
And in Europe it all started a long time ago and now we can say that avid gamers are the heirs of the wealthy social stratum of Ancient Greece, ancient Rome and Europe. In these countries, the game of dice has completely captured precisely these sections of society. For obvious reasons, the working people had no time to play. And the passion for dice among the church clergy was so significant that even the Cambrian Bishop Witold could not ban this game. And then he came up with a replacement for her. Instead of numbers on the edges of the bones, he painted the virtues in symbols. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They are details of a lot of knowledge that they provide that are actually very valuable, I did not know that I had had so many things that I had gone through, however there are many details that, when well ordered, can come out as if it were a great biography from those times to the present day. Currently, this seems interesting to me, it only occurred to me when I read all the little things that happened in those times, and it is curious that by uniting all that knowledge, such a legendary story emerges, at least it seems that way to me, this means that the trajectory of games of chance is somewhat controversial and that within this there is a lot of knowledge immersed, this is quite interesting. The history of gambling is, of course, very diverse and is a long struggle between a person's passion for gambling and all sorts of prohibitions, ranging from religious ones to violence against the player in general. But the passion for gambling is inherent in the nature of the person himself, as the desire for happiness and wealth. And those people or organizations that fight against gambling allegedly care about the health and money of the player himself. These people kind of make sure he doesn't lose all his money or even go crazy. And this endless struggle gave rise to an interesting history of gambling and is still developing in different directions - there are complete bans in some places in the world, but there is also their complete absence. Yes, and this without counting the number of micro stories that are generated and have been generated over time, it is a guarantee that things in the history of the game continue to be written, for a casino or several casinos in particular, this is without a doubt the taking of experience, of what they should do, what they should avoid and without a doubt what the future holds for them. I am in favor that we must always take into account that history helps us to improve and not fall into the mistakes of the past, the past makes us the present and we take care of building the future and not only in gambling but in life, I am surely history will continue to be written with very relevant events. poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game. People should have this kind of mindset that not everyday would be a profitable or winning day even if we do say that we are dealing with strategic based ones which we know that we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just normal that you would lose certain games on possible day which you should really make yourself that accept those probabilities so that you wont really get disappointed or something like that because if not then it would really be creating that kind of desperation inside. Indeed. It should be known to all that everyday is not a good day in gambling. There will really be times that the odds won't be on your side and that's totally okay because after all, there is just a certain percentage where you will win. No matter how good your strategy is, most of the time, the higher edge is on the house. There are just certain percentage of RTP which is beyond your control as a player. So definitely, there would be days that you will lose but do not let it eat you up. You shouldn't be shaken for a loss that you have bet because if ever you will be easily shaken, you'll end up chasing that loss until you no longer notice that you keep on losing your funds continuously. Desperation of winning will just get you bankrupt. It won't do you anything good most especially if you do not possess the right mental headspace to handle the stress. If ever you lose, do not let your emotions control you. Remember to do proper risk assessment and management. Let yourself cool down and do not engage in further activities if you know you can't handle any more betting stress. What you say is very true, you cannot fall into despair, sometimes for many it is difficult to accept when you have very large losses, but you have to realize things sometimes happen like that, the pressure in the game is not good, sometimes the sense of fun is lost and it goes to a plane almost of work, where many things have to be put in context, when desperation and panic enters people for losing money, it is very likely that they will enter into addiction problems, And it is there that in order to avoid this, it is as I have always said, to have a risk management control, and that goes hand in hand with the personality of each person, especially when making decisions.
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Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.
Right on point. The reason why I think those people decide to take away their life is may be because they think that by ending their life the debt will go away with them. The fact is that in "some" cases it indeed goes away with the person because their families completely deny of the loan to be paid. But in the rest of the cases their families are forced by the owners to pay them back the loan taken by the person. All of this could be avoided if that person simply uses a risk management strategy and only loses what he can afford to lose. The problem is we just have to see life from taking and admitting all mistakes we have made so far. We don't have to think in the contrary way just to escape debt when we know that our family and friends can be forced to pay back the actual money to the owner. Some persons may think by taking there own life they will escape debt but the problem is that the family they left here might be forced to pay the money. correct , because the more we deny those facts and reality is the more we are inconsistent in having a good decision , accepting reality in gambling will save us from dumping more as we have been in this same manner for long term now. we also knew how would it be to become more and more vulnerable when our funds dumps here and there.
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That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling.
I personally don't encourage people to borrow money. Borrowing money to gamble could be the worst thing any individual can ever do. We all know gambling is a risk, of which the chances of winning is always slimmer to that of losing which is why is always advisable to gamble with the little you can afford in other to avoid stories that touches the heart in case it doesn't go as planned
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That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.
I have heard many stories about people making money by criminal means. Very often they try to lose this money in casinos. Stolen money is easy to get and easy to get away with. The sooner the criminal gets rid of the extra money, the less trouble he will have with the law.
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September 13, 2022, 02:23:51 PM |
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Yes you are right that mate like you said not all the time we are lucky enough to earn every single bet because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome so we need to control and discipline ourselves. Because the more we bet big amounts then the more we loss so if we bet a small amount then expect that our loss is small too. And if we have our luck then for sure big amounts of winning we've earn.
The expectations of a gambler in any gamble it plays is to make profit by wining a game because it's something that you think of, before making your bet. I believe that gambling is something you know from your mindset that either you win or lose and some people who is addicted to gambling don't barley know their limit in gambling playing. But sometimes i blame who don't map a particular amount of money for gambling. The major reasons why majority of us enters into gambling is to make profits and that is what everyone likes and want to jump on so we can make a lots of money from it. The history of gambling can sharpen out mindset on how everything about gambling started so we can get some info on what we are doing right now and those that had success playing what see difficulties in and that can reshape our attitude towards gambling. Not all but maybe some gambler set their mind that when they enter the world of gambling they start earning and make a lot of money and yes we can not say that gambling can not give us profit because when we have our luck then for sure we will win. But in my own experience I enter the gambling and the reason is that gambling is my stress relief and gambling makes me happy also sports is one of the best game ill want to bet for.
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