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December 22, 2022, 06:38:08 AM
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In my opinion based on what I've seen, unfortunately this war seems to be getting more intense instead of slowing down because of cold, etc. United States has already given permission to hit targets in Russian soil and Russia has increased its attack on Ukrainian infrastructure to the point that more than half of the country has no electricity. I even heard rumors (that could be wrong) the capital could be emptied during winter due to no electricity and heat.

There are two possible outcomes, since both the sides have ruled out ceasefire:

Ukrainian defeat: Russia mobilizes even more people, sends in an army of >1 million and conquers half of Ukraine. Probability is low, since the public mood in Russia is against anymore mobilization drives. And with the current armed forces strength (200,000 + 300,000 mobilized reserves), it is not possible for Russia to achieve a quick victory.

Russian defeat: Crude oil prices plummet to 2020 levels (~40 dollars per barrel). Russian budget revenue decreases and it gets impossible for them to continue with the war. The chances of this scenario is also quite low, since OPEC and Biden doesn't want lower oil prices.

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I can tell you that, no one thought this war would last and become as fierce as it is now, Russia and Ukraine, or the EU never wanted this war to last. I agree with you that Russia wants to end the war, but Ukraine wants that too, and the EU wants more. All have been ravaged by war, and they understand that it takes years or decades to recover and catch up to the pace of the world, but they are caught up in the never-ending war because a force wants to prolong this war.
The end of the war between Russia and Ukraine depends entirely on Putin, his entourage and the entire Russian people, who still support their government's military efforts to conquer the territory of Ukraine. Russia does not want an end to the war, and this must be said directly. It is enough for Russia to withdraw its occupying troops from Ukraine for this war to stop.

Yes, the Kremlin did not count on such tough resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the entire Ukrainian people. Before the invasion of Ukraine from the territory of Belarus, Russian troops were instructed to reach the outskirts of Kyiv within 48 hours. The armored power of eight Russian armies was never able to fulfill this criminal order, and after a month of fierce fighting, Russia was forced to hastily withdraw the remnants of its defeated armies from the central and northern part of Ukraine in order to save them from complete defeat.

To date, more than 100,000 Russian soldiers and officers have already died in Ukraine, more than 3,000 Russian tanks, about 6,000 armored vehicles, 282 aircraft, 267 helicopters, about 2,000 artillery systems, 412 MLRS and other military equipment have been destroyed, which Russia can no longer replenish in conditions of international sanctions.

The war continues as the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine will spell the end for the Putin regime. Therefore, they decided to delay the time of defeat, hoping only for a miracle.

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December 22, 2022, 08:42:51 AM
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In my opinion based on what I've seen, unfortunately this war seems to be getting more intense instead of slowing down because of cold, etc. United States has already given permission to hit targets in Russian soil and Russia has increased its attack on Ukrainian infrastructure to the point that more than half of the country has no electricity. I even heard rumors (that could be wrong) the capital could be emptied during winter due to no electricity and heat.

There are two possible outcomes, since both the sides have ruled out ceasefire:

Ukrainian defeat: Russia mobilizes even more people, sends in an army of >1 million and conquers half of Ukraine. Probability is low, since the public mood in Russia is against anymore mobilization drives. And with the current armed forces strength (200,000 + 300,000 mobilized reserves), it is not possible for Russia to achieve a quick victory.

Russian defeat: Crude oil prices plummet to 2020 levels (~40 dollars per barrel). Russian budget revenue decreases and it gets impossible for them to continue with the war. The chances of this scenario is also quite low, since OPEC and Biden doesn't want lower oil prices.

I think that given Russia's current tactic of using long-range missiles to attack Ukraine's energy infrastructure, it is not appropriate to mobilize the army for a general offensive. My prediction is that Russia will increase the use of low-cost UAVs combined with high-precision missiles to continue to attack Ukraine to make Ukraine mentally exhausted when winter has no energy to use, forcing them to negotiate.

Crude oil prices have spiked in recent days because China has begun to accept to live with the covid epidemic to open its economy, oil demand will increase sharply in the near future, so the possibility of a sharp drop in oil is very difficult.

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There are two possible outcomes, since both the sides have ruled out ceasefire:

Ukrainian defeat: Russia mobilizes even more people, sends in an army of >1 million and conquers half of Ukraine. Probability is low, since the public mood in Russia is against anymore mobilization drives. And with the current armed forces strength (200,000 + 300,000 mobilized reserves), it is not possible for Russia to achieve a quick victory.

Russian defeat: Crude oil prices plummet to 2020 levels (~40 dollars per barrel). Russian budget revenue decreases and it gets impossible for them to continue with the war. The chances of this scenario is also quite low, since OPEC and Biden doesn't want lower oil prices.
It is way too soon to talk about defeat since this war is going to drag on for a long time.

Right now the Russian strategy is to stand back (after they captured strategic positions over the past couple of months) and slowly destroy Ukraine's infrastructure hoping they can break their forces while they shell any progressing forces to get high casualties. Unless Ukraine can break this strategy and push Russians back in the coming weeks, their chances of sustained resistance decreases significantly over time.
This is the least of what we are going to see all through winter.

As for oil prices, regardless of the result of this conflict there are a lot of other factors affecting that. For one the Russian oil has to come back to European markets at large to bring the price down and considering sanctions and the relationship with the West, I don't see that happening.
2 other important factors are China and whether they are going to be pulled into a war with Taiwan (or maybe even Japan!!) that could significantly decrease demand and bring the price down (here).
And whether the oil producing countries like Saudis are going to be allowed to increase production. As we speak the tensions between Yemen and Saudis is growing and over the past month multiple tankers stealing Yemenis oil were hit. Next target could be their oil infrastructure (the only thing preventing it so far has been FIFA World Cup in Qatar).

P.S. I disagree with the last sentence. US is actually too desperate to bring energy price down. This has been their strategy ever since they invented "Petrodollar" they first increased the oil price to force other countries to buy the massive amount of fiat they had printed (like during Pandemic) to buy the extra expensive oil. Then they ordered their colonies like Saudis to increase production and decrease price so that the high energy price doesn't move US economy into a recession+inflation combo.
This time they could not do that and US is experiencing both. FED has already increased interest rates multiple times and I believe right now it is somewhere close to 5% which means it has also lost its effectiveness in controlling inflation...

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December 22, 2022, 04:55:24 PM
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We all know that the Russian state is one of the most influential countries both in the economic part and in other parts, so with the ongoing War that is happening at the moment with Ukraine, the losses from the country are certainly very large and this also has an impact on other countries around the world, although currently Russia has received sanctions but they still have a way to overcome the problem, and other countries cooperating in the economic sphere with Russia began to adapt to the ongoing situation.

The widespread impact on the economic sector since the war between Russia and Ukraine has indeed been felt even today. However, several countries that still maintain good economic relations with Russia seem to have started to adapt to the current situation. But still, if this war can be ended peacefully then it will be better, especially in terms of the economy of the two countries and all countries that have relations with these two countries. The ones who have suffered the most losses are probably Ukraine and Russia itself. However, European countries also felt the extraordinary impact. Gas prices have actually reached their highest level there. and that is very worrying.

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December 22, 2022, 04:59:13 PM
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What will happen during the winter season? I have seen contrasting claims. Some claim that the fighting will die down and resume when the winter season ends. Some others claim that both Russia and Ukraine have mobilized large number of reserves and therefore the fighting may intensify in the coming months. Muddy weather hampered the operation of tanks and armored vehicles in the past and this issue won't be there once the ground gets frozen. What I don't know is which of the sides will get the advantage of winter climate.
In my opinion based on what I've seen, unfortunately this war seems to be getting more intense instead of slowing down because of cold, etc. United States has already given permission to hit targets in Russian soil and Russia has increased its attack on Ukrainian infrastructure to the point that more than half of the country has no electricity. I even heard rumors (that could be wrong) the capital could be emptied during winter due to no electricity and heat.
Certainly, the fight will be more fierce when the president of Ukraine makes an official visit to the US, it's like they are begging for more aid and Russia is showing discomfort because of this. I believe there will be a major air strike when Mr. Volodymyr Zelensky returns home. Ukraine was wrong and things are getting worse to believe that the US can save them.

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More than two months have passed since the issuance of this news, and we did not notice that the subject had witnessed progress of any kind.
I was listening to Anthony Blinken's speech, and it seemed to me that he was speaking with great confidence, expressing his country's position on Russia and its allies. But you expressed support to ensure stability in the Taiwan Strait in the face of the Chinese threat, in addition to mobilizing support against Russia by imposing more sanctions that will prevent it from accessing technology, as he put it.
Russia seems to be under severe pressure, both from the military point of view, as its forces are unable to advance and are currently losing areas that they occupied earlier. And economically, due to international pressures and the failure to back down from the sanctions imposed on them.
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December 23, 2022, 12:54:21 AM
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The end of the war between Russia and Ukraine depends entirely on Putin, his entourage and the entire Russian people, who still support their government's military efforts to conquer the territory of Ukraine. Russia does not want an end to the war, and this must be said directly. It is enough for Russia to withdraw its occupying troops from Ukraine for this war to stop.

Yes, the Kremlin did not count on such tough resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the entire Ukrainian people. Before the invasion of Ukraine from the territory of Belarus, Russian troops were instructed to reach the outskirts of Kyiv within 48 hours. The armored power of eight Russian armies was never able to fulfill this criminal order, and after a month of fierce fighting, Russia was forced to hastily withdraw the remnants of its defeated armies from the central and northern part of Ukraine in order to save them from complete defeat.

To date, more than 100,000 Russian soldiers and officers have already died in Ukraine, more than 3,000 Russian tanks, about 6,000 armored vehicles, 282 aircraft, 267 helicopters, about 2,000 artillery systems, 412 MLRS and other military equipment have been destroyed, which Russia can no longer replenish in conditions of international sanctions.

The war continues as the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine will spell the end for the Putin regime. Therefore, they decided to delay the time of defeat, hoping only for a miracle.

The only miracle would be Republicans winning both chambers of Congress, as well as, the White House in the US. That would turn the tide of the war in Russia's favor. After all, Republicans in the US said they will cut off support to Ukraine if they win. Considering that the US is a major supporter of Ukraine, backing down at a later time would result in a complete disaster for world countries. I can't imagine how things are going to get worse once this happens.

Say bye-bye to the economy if Russia continues to escalate after it defeats Ukraine. It will probably attack Poland, Finland, Sweden and other neighboring countries (including those within the EU), greatly putting our world order at risk. Don't expect central banks to fix inflation, especially when Russia is disrupting the energy market. These are hard times we're living into, so we should be prepared for the worst. Who knows what will happen in 2023? Just my opinion Smiley

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The end of the war between Russia and Ukraine depends entirely on Putin, his entourage and the entire Russian people, who still support their government's military efforts to conquer the territory of Ukraine. Russia does not want an end to the war, and this must be said directly. It is enough for Russia to withdraw its occupying troops from Ukraine for this war to stop.

Yes, the Kremlin did not count on such tough resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the entire Ukrainian people. Before the invasion of Ukraine from the territory of Belarus, Russian troops were instructed to reach the outskirts of Kyiv within 48 hours. The armored power of eight Russian armies was never able to fulfill this criminal order, and after a month of fierce fighting, Russia was forced to hastily withdraw the remnants of its defeated armies from the central and northern part of Ukraine in order to save them from complete defeat.

To date, more than 100,000 Russian soldiers and officers have already died in Ukraine, more than 3,000 Russian tanks, about 6,000 armored vehicles, 282 aircraft, 267 helicopters, about 2,000 artillery systems, 412 MLRS and other military equipment have been destroyed, which Russia can no longer replenish in conditions of international sanctions.

The war continues as the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine will spell the end for the Putin regime. Therefore, they decided to delay the time of defeat, hoping only for a miracle.

The only miracle would be Republicans winning both chambers of Congress, as well as, the White House in the US. That would turn the tide of the war in Russia's favor. After all, Republicans in the US said they will cut off support to Ukraine if they win. Considering that the US is a major supporter of Ukraine, backing down at a later time would result in a complete disaster for world countries. I can't imagine how things are going to get worse once this happens.

Say bye-bye to the economy if Russia continues to escalate after it defeats Ukraine. It will probably attack Poland, Finland, Sweden and other neighboring countries (including those within the EU), greatly putting our world order at risk. Don't expect central banks to fix inflation, especially when Russia is disrupting the energy market. These are hard times we're living into, so we should be prepared for the worst. Who knows what will happen in 2023? Just my opinion Smiley

Republicans have stated that they will stop aid to Ukraine if they can control the House or both houses. I think those are statements intended to attract voters in their midterm elections, the possibility of them doing so is improbable. Regardless of which party is in power, the national interest must come first, or you will also be deposed if you harm the national interest. Russia is mired in war or economically lagging behind is beneficial to the US, no matter who comes to power, they will not ignore. But I still hope the Republicans come to power rather than Biden.

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December 23, 2022, 04:30:56 AM
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Republicans have stated that they will stop aid to Ukraine if they can control the House or both houses. I think those are statements intended to attract voters in their midterm elections, the possibility of them doing so is improbable. Regardless of which party is in power, the national interest must come first, or you will also be deposed if you harm the national interest. Russia is mired in war or economically lagging behind is beneficial to the US, no matter who comes to power, they will not ignore. But I still hope the Republicans come to power rather than Biden.

They just had the mid term elections and Democrats won the control of the senate. The next elections are two years away and by that time the war will be settled once and for all. But the longer the war lasts, that much difficult will be the economical situation, across the globe. Already countries are reeling from high inflation, driven by high prices of oil, gas, wheat and coal. Europe is disproportionately impacted while the US is benefitting from it's exports of oil and gas at inflated prices to countries including the European Union.

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Things in Russia are going so "well" that... Citizens of Russia - exclusively for you Smiley
The head of the Central Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina, is proposing to develop recommendations on the "obligatory conversion of bank deposits in physical assets into defense loan bonds."

What is this about? This is about the fact that the deposits of individuals will be FORCED, without the consent of the owners, transferred to some pieces of paper of the state that lost the war, and will soon collapse. Those. the citizens of Russia, simply, silently, out of habit, steal their money! Last money ! And you will not be asked, once again just wiping your feet on you!

You can check it yourself - document number IN-12-16/4 dated December 16, 2022, addressed to Zhdanov A.Yu. (Director of the Financial Recovery Department of the Bank of Russia).

If someone does not find it, I can attach a photo of the document Smiley
Honestly, after reading this, I feel sad for the people of Russia that will be affected by this recommendation because its another way of the government stealing from the citizen they ought to serve/help and the worse part is that those in power or in the office their bank deposited fund will not be touch. Besides, this is the reason why we should not pray for war because no one how it will end and I hope more people from Russian sees BTC as an alternative because these are some of the reason Satoshi create BTC.
God bless Satoshi and the people that worked with him for the creation of Bitcoin!

In the meantime, could you provide the document?

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Republicans have stated that they will stop aid to Ukraine if they can control the House or both houses. I think those are statements intended to attract voters in their midterm elections, the possibility of them doing so is improbable. Regardless of which party is in power, the national interest must come first, or you will also be deposed if you harm the national interest. Russia is mired in war or economically lagging behind is beneficial to the US, no matter who comes to power, they will not ignore. But I still hope the Republicans come to power rather than Biden.

They just had the mid term elections and Democrats won the control of the senate. The next elections are two years away and by that time the war will be settled once and for all. But the longer the war lasts, that much difficult will be the economical situation, across the globe. Already countries are reeling from high inflation, driven by high prices of oil, gas, wheat and coal. Europe is disproportionately impacted while the US is benefitting from it's exports of oil and gas at inflated prices to countries including the European Union.

I see that America's customers are almost entirely European because they sell oil and gas at too high a price, and Europe has no other choice. I believe the European governments are well aware of what is happening, but they have no better solution. They are controlled by the US, they depend on everything from the military to the economy. Although inflation in the US is still high, they have succeeded in exporting inflation to their brothers. Inflation in the UK and some European countries have shown no signs of stopping and is still increasing. Only one country is winning this war.

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The only miracle would be Republicans winning both chambers of Congress, as well as, the White House in the US. That would turn the tide of the war in Russia's favor. After all, Republicans in the US said they will cut off support to Ukraine if they win. Considering that the US is a major supporter of Ukraine, backing down at a later time would result in a complete disaster for world countries. I can't imagine how things are going to get worse once this happens.

Say bye-bye to the economy if Russia continues to escalate after it defeats Ukraine. It will probably attack Poland, Finland, Sweden and other neighboring countries (including those within the EU), greatly putting our world order at risk. Don't expect central banks to fix inflation, especially when Russia is disrupting the energy market. These are hard times we're living into, so we should be prepared for the worst. Who knows what will happen in 2023? Just my opinion Smiley
Such big decisions don't change based on which political party controls congress or the government. In US they have always been pretty much in complete agreement when it comes to warmongering with only slight differences in the tactics they use. In other words US will continue fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian despite who controls congress/whitehouse.

I also disagree with Russia continuing its attack on other countries. There is no evidence of that so far. In fact the more possible scenario is an internal war between different European countries specially in the Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Basically the West would attack any EU member that wishes to normalize relations with Russia. That is what Poland's purpose is and why they are being armed and exactly why they warned Germany against normalization (bringing up WWII, etc.).

The 2023 will be mostly unpredictable though... That I agree with.

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The only miracle would be Republicans winning both chambers of Congress, as well as, the White House in the US. That would turn the tide of the war in Russia's favor. After all, Republicans in the US said they will cut off support to Ukraine if they win. Considering that the US is a major supporter of Ukraine, backing down at a later time would result in a complete disaster for world countries. I can't imagine how things are going to get worse once this happens.

Say bye-bye to the economy if Russia continues to escalate after it defeats Ukraine. It will probably attack Poland, Finland, Sweden and other neighboring countries (including those within the EU), greatly putting our world order at risk. Don't expect central banks to fix inflation, especially when Russia is disrupting the energy market. These are hard times we're living into, so we should be prepared for the worst. Who knows what will happen in 2023? Just my opinion Smiley
Such big decisions don't change based on which political party controls congress or the government. In US they have always been pretty much in complete agreement when it comes to warmongering with only slight differences in the tactics they use. In other words US will continue fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian despite who controls congress/whitehouse.

I also disagree with Russia continuing its attack on other countries. There is no evidence of that so far. In fact the more possible scenario is an internal war between different European countries specially in the Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Basically the West would attack any EU member that wishes to normalize relations with Russia. That is what Poland's purpose is and why they are being armed and exactly why they warned Germany against normalization (bringing up WWII, etc.).

The 2023 will be mostly unpredictable though... That I agree with.

Decisions won't be that quick, Republicans won't stand out with the hasty decision he has to save America's reputation from a saviour title (although I doubt its authenticity), deciding anything big needs time to consolidate first and thinking of it as a no. harm America itself. According to my understanding, political parties cannot make policies based on the attitude of the state but can influence them through their cadres in the government system.

Of course, those who agree to this war continue I also don't want to, but NATO continues to fly its NATO flag led by America on the plains of Europe, of course, if this continues it will disrupt world stability, and America's strength will increase and continue to grow. Who dared to refuse America's request the next day? maybe Putin didn't want this to happen. The hampered normalization is proof that America has other intentions behind this.

This is indeed quite complicated for us because we only see and hear what is happening from embellished media information.

The year 2023 is indeed on the verge of enormous uncertainty for us from an economic and geopolitical perspective.
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The only miracle would be Republicans winning both chambers of Congress, as well as, the White House in the US. That would turn the tide of the war in Russia's favor. After all, Republicans in the US said they will cut off support to Ukraine if they win. Considering that the US is a major supporter of Ukraine, backing down at a later time would result in a complete disaster for world countries. I can't imagine how things are going to get worse once this happens.

Say bye-bye to the economy if Russia continues to escalate after it defeats Ukraine. It will probably attack Poland, Finland, Sweden and other neighboring countries (including those within the EU), greatly putting our world order at risk. Don't expect central banks to fix inflation, especially when Russia is disrupting the energy market. These are hard times we're living into, so we should be prepared for the worst. Who knows what will happen in 2023? Just my opinion Smiley
Such big decisions don't change based on which political party controls congress or the government. In US they have always been pretty much in complete agreement when it comes to warmongering with only slight differences in the tactics they use. In other words US will continue fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian despite who controls congress/whitehouse.

I also disagree with Russia continuing its attack on other countries. There is no evidence of that so far. In fact the more possible scenario is an internal war between different European countries specially in the Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Basically the West would attack any EU member that wishes to normalize relations with Russia. That is what Poland's purpose is and why they are being armed and exactly why they warned Germany against normalization (bringing up WWII, etc.).

The 2023 will be mostly unpredictable though... That I agree with.
I think 2023 will be more terrible than this year. While we all want to gain financial freedom
we all need to work hard to gain it. Otherwise crying over it - there is no use

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December 23, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
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What will happen during the winter season? I have seen contrasting claims. Some claim that the fighting will die down and resume when the winter season ends. Some others claim that both Russia and Ukraine have mobilized large number of reserves and therefore the fighting may intensify in the coming months. Muddy weather hampered the operation of tanks and armored vehicles in the past and this issue won't be there once the ground gets frozen. What I don't know is which of the sides will get the advantage of winter climate.
In Ukraine, they have repeatedly stated that with the onset of winter, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not going to stop and will beat the invaders until they are driven out of their territory. As soon as the ground freezes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will attack the enemy with all the forces and means that are now accumulating.
The most likely strike is expected on the southern front, in order to cut the positions of the Russian army and disrupt the logistical supply routes, as well as reach the Sea of Azov and the isthmus of the Crimean peninsula. After that, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to completely destroy the entire territory of Crimea with fire, and the Russian occupying army will be trapped. These events have been prepared for a long time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are methodically hitting ammunition depots, command posts and places of accumulation of enemy manpower with pinpoint strikes. Because of this, the Russians lose more than 500 people every day and many of their armored vehicles. So it was before the liberation of a part of the Kherson region on the right bank of the Dnieper. The same will happen on the left bank, because the Russians are already pressed to the sea and, thanks to high-precision strikes, their positions are weakening every day. The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can already begin on any day, and the military-political leadership of Ukraine has already hinted at pleasant surprises at the front for Ukrainians for the New Year.

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Things in Russia are going so "well" that... Citizens of Russia - exclusively for you Smiley
The head of the Central Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina, is proposing to develop recommendations on the "obligatory conversion of bank deposits in physical assets into defense loan bonds."

What is this about? This is about the fact that the deposits of individuals will be FORCED, without the consent of the owners, transferred to some pieces of paper of the state that lost the war, and will soon collapse. Those. the citizens of Russia, simply, silently, out of habit, steal their money! Last money ! And you will not be asked, once again just wiping your feet on you!

You can check it yourself - document number IN-12-16/4 dated December 16, 2022, addressed to Zhdanov A.Yu. (Director of the Financial Recovery Department of the Bank of Russia).

If someone does not find it, I can attach a photo of the document Smiley

I don't have much money left in bank accounts, but my relatives keep their savings in banks.  Indeed, they have a great risk of losing them if they are forcibly converted into war bonds. 

I recently withdrew my savings from an anonymous metal account and bought myself a nice Finnish down jacket.  This down jacket looks very simple, but it is very warm and practical.  It can be easily washed in warm water.  Now Finnish companies do not want to supply their goods to Russia.  Down jackets cost more than 300 euros and are considered luxury items.  Luxury goods are subject to European sanctions.

I decided that if chaos and unrest began in Russia, then I would need a really good practical down jacket more than savings in a bank account, which, most likely, I would not have access to. 

In such a down jacket - warm and light - it will be easy to run away from all sorts of bad people and quickly move around urban and rural areas.

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As if the supporters of Russia / terrorism would not like to see Russia as a winner, but this will not happen Smiley
It is clear from the squealing - after the Kremlin terrorist regime collapses, they will merge, stop financing, shelter, help, the same international outcasts ... And this means the time will come to answer for the crimes ...
It's only a matter of time. The fact that Russia has engaged in ordinary primitive terror of PEACEFUL citizens in PEACEFUL cities of Ukraine, destroying infrastructure, residential buildings, hospitals, schools, maternity hospitals, .. is quite logical for the country of a cowardly terrorist. we know it.
This morning, on a day off, when there are a lot of people in the city, the Kremlin terrorists shelled the center of the city of Kherson, killing many civilians who were just going to shops, for a walk...

And if Russia has decided that it is possible to talk to us like that, it is sooo much mistaken. With each rocket, our hatred for this bastard regime only grows. With every dead defender of Ukraine, or a civilian, we accumulate anger and a desire for revenge. And we will survive the cold. Ukrainians are not primitive Muscovites, we are a hardworking people who are used to living on their land for themselves. Even after such massive bombardments, we almost completely restored the power system. Yes, there is no electricity 24x7 yet, but it will be! But Russia will never be again Smiley
Yes, I am sure that before Orthodox Christmas or New Years, international terrorists will deliver at least 1 more missile strike, cowardly, vile and mean, typical of the Russian world, "congratulating us." They will cheer us up with a victory over them Smiley
Now we will receive a new package of high-tech weapons, Russia will now gather another 100-200 thousand disposable citizens of Russia, on whom they do not care. And they'll just be slaughtered. But we will cope with this too ... But Russia and its accomplices will never wash the blood off their hands and there will be orders ....

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Honestly, after reading this, I feel sad for the people of Russia that will be affected by this recommendation because its another way of the government stealing from the citizen they ought to serve/help and the worse part is that those in power or in the office their bank deposited fund will not be touched. Besides, this is the reason why we should not pray for war because no one how it will end and I hope more people from Russian sees BTC as an alternative because these are some of the reason Satoshi create BTC.
God bless Satoshi and the people that worked with him for the creation of Bitcoin!

In the meantime, could you provide the document?


What are you worried about? They tacitly agree, out of habit, for the weak-willed people are used to "what the master orders, we will do it, the master will do everything!".
Plus, they support the terrorist war, and with their mother's milk they absorb the desire to "defeat the USA, NATO and all capitalists", although then everyone decides to go west and live like a person. There's a complex, long-standing, mental problem and immunity to pronounced dissonance. They can say one thing, do the diametrically opposite, and then prove that it's all right ... In a word - don't worry about them, it's only their personal ... no, it's not a problem, it's a habit to live like this Smiley

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As if the supporters of Russia / terrorism would not like to see Russia as a winner, but this will not happen Smiley
It is clear from the squealing - after the Kremlin terrorist regime collapses, they will merge, stop financing, shelter, help, the same international outcasts ... And this means the time will come to answer for the crimes ...
It's only a matter of time. The fact that Russia has engaged in ordinary primitive terror of PEACEFUL citizens in PEACEFUL cities of Ukraine, destroying infrastructure, residential buildings, hospitals, schools, maternity hospitals, .. is quite logical for the country of a cowardly terrorist. we know it.
This morning, on a day off, when there are a lot of people in the city, the Kremlin terrorists shelled the center of the city of Kherson, killing many civilians who were just going to shops, for a walk...

And if Russia has decided that it is possible to talk to us like that, it is sooo much mistaken. With each rocket, our hatred for this bastard regime only grows. With every dead defender of Ukraine, or a civilian, we accumulate anger and a desire for revenge. And we will survive the cold. Ukrainians are not primitive Muscovites, we are a hardworking people who are used to living on their land for themselves. Even after such massive bombardments, we almost completely restored the power system. Yes, there is no electricity 24x7 yet, but it will be! But Russia will never be again Smiley
Yes, I am sure that before Orthodox Christmas or New Years, international terrorists will deliver at least 1 more missile strike, cowardly, vile and mean, typical of the Russian world, "congratulating us." They will cheer us up with a victory over them Smiley
Now we will receive a new package of high-tech weapons, Russia will now gather another 100-200 thousand disposable citizens of Russia, on whom they do not care. And they'll just be slaughtered. But we will cope with this too ... But Russia and its accomplices will never wash the blood off their hands and there will be orders ....

My sincerest condolences for what is happening to the people of Ukraine, they did not deserve the loss of the war but if you stand up against the puppet government Volodymyr Zelensky nothing will happen to your country. I remember before the war, Russia warned Nato that expanding the bloc would destabilize Russia's security. Nato and Ukraine ignored those warnings and assumed that Russia would do nothing, your government underestimated Russia and then war broke out. I don't know if you see the malice of America and its allies, but to me, all that is happening today is caused by America, who wants war.

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