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August 25, 2023, 03:15:50 AM
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For Russian and Ukraine war world economy wavering. Because Russia and USA Prohibition each other. As a result business are also restricted with them. And for this restriction others countries are could not  trade with others so big impact creating on economy in worldwide. Ukrain is big country for Wheat production. But they could not export that property so there creating big crisis worldwide. And also Russia is big exporter for gas but now many country could not buy it for restriction. So i think for Russian and Ukraine war directly and indirectly The world economy is suffering there has no doubt.
The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.


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August 25, 2023, 04:23:49 AM
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For Russian and Ukraine war world economy wavering. Because Russia and USA Prohibition each other. As a result business are also restricted with them. And for this restriction others countries are could not  trade with others so big impact creating on economy in worldwide. Ukrain is big country for Wheat production. But they could not export that property so there creating big crisis worldwide. And also Russia is big exporter for gas but now many country could not buy it for restriction. So i think for Russian and Ukraine war directly and indirectly The world economy is suffering there has no doubt.
The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.

If this is just a war between Russia and Ukraine, the effects on the world economy will not be too great. But the war is no longer between the two countries, but between the US-led NATO and Russia. This is a war between the two most powerful forces in the world, so it will have a lot of influence and can cause more negative effects if not prevented soon.

And to be honest, I don't see any signs that the war will stop anytime soon because neither the US nor Russia have achieved their goals. We should prepare ourselves more as the war continues to drag on and may become more severe.

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Or maybe we'd better talk about the surge of neo-Nazism that has swept Ukraine? That the national heroes of Ukraine Bandera and Shukhevych are Nazis? The fact that the Nazi battalion Azov is quite officially part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre? About the annual thousands of marches in Kyiv on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians? Do not shift from a sick head to a healthy one, the brown plague is not in Russia, but in Ukraine.


Great topic, and let's discuss ? Smiley
But 2 conditions:
1. We remember that the terrorist attack of Russia in Ukraine was held under the slogan "defense of the Russian language". This was in 2014, then depending on failures, Russia changed the "reasons" to Nazism, mosquitoes, demilitarization, and other boraed.
2- You provide provable facts and we evaluate it. We compare scales, events, etc.

I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
2.  "The Nazi battalion "Azov" is quite officially part of the AFU ?" - is Russian propaganda, nothing more. How can Azov be NAZISTS if they are destroying Rashism - Russian Nazism ?! Do you have any facts? Try to provide Smiley
3.  "The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre ?" - The so-called "Volyn massacre" is a localized one, arising on national, mutual dislike, and mutual actions. Yes, the fact took place, it is silly to deny it, but it was preceded by other facts, which Russian propaganda for some reason forgets. But this is a national conflict, historical, and has nothing to do with Nazism. For example, Muscovy and Russia purposefully destroyed Ukrainians, their history, culture, language speakers, for many centuries. And now continues this business. The cause of Nazism under Vlasov's flags. Do you want to talk about how Russians served Nazi Germany, and destroyed Poles, Ukrainians, and other peoples? About Poles - how about September 17, 1939 ? And about the mass extermination of the inhabitants of Poland ?  And how the USSR and Germany started the destruction of European countries? Or is it different? 
4. "About the annual processions of many thousands in Kiev on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians?". - lies again Smiley It is not Russians who are called to kill, but Russian aggressors - don't manipulate words Smiley. Yes, and one more thing - marches are not annual, and not as mass as for example in St. Petersburg or Moscow marches of neo-Nazis and Rashists. Can I show you a photo-video or can you find it yourself? Smiley

Here we go again, so beautifully started and so idiotic, and habitually shit himself in front of everyone  Grin Grin Grin Grin


In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...

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War is a boomerang for the world economy, especially now that Russia and Ukraine are in dispute, where Russia is the most influential country in the world's oil sector, if their oil reproduction is hampered then it is certain that the economies of other countries on earth will also be hampered.

       One of the impacts felt is the increase in crude oil up to 50-80% per barrel, this will certainly increase the need for clothing and food as well as other needs.

        The Russian-Ukrainian war further exacerbated the situation of world wheat availability and prices. Without intervention in the form of substitutes, it turns out that rising wheat prices at the global level will reduce world economic growth. As we all know, wheat is one of the most consumed commodities and is the main raw material for making  staples that can make the world's population survive,

       It's a shame that both sides haven't found a bright spot for peace, hopefully in the near future the two countries can get rid of their selfishness, and can negotiate to end the war, because the impact is huge.

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August 25, 2023, 07:08:02 PM
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The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.
Yes you are right  Just as Ukraine is a leader in wheat production, Russia plays a major role in supplying oil, gas, grains, etc. to the entire world.  As a result of the conflict between these two countries, our entire world is suffering in one way or another.  They should think about their own good and the good of the people of the world and settle this mutual conflict.



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August 25, 2023, 08:56:38 PM
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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...

You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...

You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

That's what he does as a typical troll. No sources, no proof but accusing everyone else of all mortal sins. Imagine, it turns out the guy was in the "territorial defense" and was wounded near Kiev in December 2022 (Russian army was nowhere near Kiev at that time but that's ok).  Grin

In fact a quick look at this liar's account activity shows that this couch warrior was spamming the shit out of this forum (posting at least 3-5 times a day) during that time. So, he is all fake and full of shit. He is a pathological liar and a troll.  Grin
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Yes you are right  Just as Ukraine is a leader in wheat production, Russia plays a major role in supplying oil, gas, grains, etc. to the entire world.  As a result of the conflict between these two countries, our entire world is suffering in one way or another.  They should think about their own good and the good of the people of the world and settle this mutual conflict.

Ukraine is not the leader in wheat production. That honor goes to Russia. And given the fact that Ukraine has lost control over large swathes of Eastern and Southern regions, the wheat production capacity is even lower now. On the other hand, climate change is helping Russia to increase their output. Wheat yield in Central Russia is going up every year, as a result of rising global temperature, while the bread-basket of Southern Russia retains the output. This year, Russia is expected to export around 47-48 million tonnes of wheat, way more than the EU (38.5 million). Others like Canada and Australia are far behind.

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Wait, you're still here? Your Motherland wants you on the Eastern front! While your more brave compatriots are dying in Donbas, you're cowardly sitting in safety of your apartment and typing bullshit on an internet forum? Did you bribe the recruitment officer? Or still no conscription of mentally retarded?  Grin Grin Grin

Anyway, if everything is so grim for Russia, oil sales are declining, then why where I live gas prices are soaring? Please note I don't live in Russia, China or India. Perhaps you could provide a valid source? Wait, I know you're not going to, you never do. Most things happen in your imagination only.  Grin

As to the state propaganda, I can ensure you that Ukrainian propaganda is MUCH more similar to German nazi propaganda during WW2. Just read your own posts, that's a very good example of Ukrainian propaganda.

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it looks like very soon salaries in Russia will be paid with oil

In oil? Why not in rubles? It costs Putin nothing to pay in rubles, he's printing it.  Cool


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So, once again, for everyone:
0. First try to prove, with arguments and facts, your multiple morbid fantasies ? I've asked you 100500 times to provide at least minimal arguments to prove your fantasies, the response has been anything but a response:) WAIT Smiley You don't want the truth, and you don't want proof. You need to realize your complexes, and draw attention to yourself Smiley
1. Once again I'll explain - on February 25, 2022, I together with my son enrolled in the Territorial Defense, and until December 2022 I defended my homeland from the brown plague of Rashism.  In December I was demobilized due to injury. Now I actively help my brothers to destroy Rashism on our land. This is financial, technical and consulting assistance Smiley You wanted to insult me primitively? You failed Smiley I'm sure you will never go to defend your country, but will cowardly sit somewhere Smiley. This is normal for the supporters of Rashism...
I'm sitting at home now, we've had three air raids in one day. Terrorist country, losing the war, is trying to terrorize peaceful cities of Ukraine.... I understand - you are thrilled about it.
2. "oil sales are falling, then why are gas prices rising where I live?". - here is a simple answer - your government reads you for biomass and makes money on you Smiley By the way - you don't want to tell the truth, name your country of residence and city - so people can check your fairy tales ? Smiley You probably won't... The reason is banal - it will be difficult for you to lie Smiley
3. "As for the state propaganda, I can assure you that Ukrainian propaganda is WAY more similar to German Nazi propaganda during WWII" - this is of course another cheap and primitive attempt to pass off wishful thinking. But, I will continue the dialog - please ARGUMENTS ? Smiley Or are they not expected ?
before you write your next nonsense - read what is state propaganda, give arguments proving that in Ukraine, the media is totally controlled by the STATE. And we will all laugh heartily at your ridiculous attempts to deny reality Smiley




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3. "As for the state propaganda, I can assure you that Ukrainian propaganda is WAY more similar to German Nazi propaganda during WWII" - this is of course another cheap and primitive attempt to pass off wishful thinking. But, I will continue the dialog - please ARGUMENTS ? Smiley Or are they not expected ?
before you write your next nonsense - read what is state propaganda, give arguments proving that in Ukraine, the media is totally controlled by the STATE. And we will all laugh heartily at your ridiculous attempts to deny reality Smiley
This is quite easy, given that in Ukraine the scandalous law on media, against which Ukrainian journalists themselves protested, was adopted and entered into force, the expert committee at the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine recognized it as unconstitutional, and the European Federation of Journalists said the following about it:

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The coercive regulation envisaged by the bill and in the hands of a regulator totally controlled by the government is worthy of the worst authoritarian regimes. It must be withdrawn. A state that would apply such provisions simply has no place in the European Union.



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Ukraine is not the leader in wheat production. That honor goes to Russia. And given the fact that Ukraine has lost control over large swathes of Eastern and Southern regions, the wheat production capacity is even lower now. On the other hand, climate change is helping Russia to increase their output. Wheat yield in Central Russia is going up every year, as a result of rising global temperature, while the bread-basket of Southern Russia retains the output. This year, Russia is expected to export around 47-48 million tonnes of wheat, way more than the EU (38.5 million). Others like Canada and Australia are far behind.
Yes you are right.  I agree with you.  Russia is ahead in all areas.  Russia is one of the most powerful countries in the world.  But Ukraine is no less.  Ukraine also produces a large number of crops.  Russia's war in Ukraine has led to food shortages around the world.  Especially in European countries, its effect has been seen more.  And food prices in all countries have increased.  Due to this, the life of the middle class people has become very difficult.



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August 26, 2023, 06:20:36 PM
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You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

"You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He co-sponsored and sponsored an amendment that was unanimously voted for by all members of the U.S. House of Representatives and passed."

No, you are again trying to manipulate and assume that there are only idiots here Smiley Let me explain.
1. There is NO recognition of the Azov Battalion as neo-Nazi and fascist. There is only a reference to "Foreign Policy magazine characterized "Azov" numbering 1000 people.... "The battalion is described as 'blatantly neo-Nazi' and 'fascist'." and a few other media outlets. And in the end the question is not about recognizing Azov as "Nazi", but not providing them with arms "because some journalists wrote that they are a Nazi battalion".  Once again, re-read fully and carefully the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers". Or was the amendment not about limiting the supply of arms to the Azov Battalion ?
 
And also point out the US legislative act where the Azov Battalion is RECOGNIZED as a "Nazi and fascist" unit ?  I am waiting for interesting links, you will have something to do all weekend trying to get out of this situation Smiley

PS By the way, "congratulations" to the Rashist soldiers - the heroic soldiers of the Azov Battalion are back in action. Now on some parts of the front, representatives of the "second army of the world" will not have the opportunity to surrender Smiley

But let's get back to the topic Smiley
First, as always, the news about the "wonderful" state of affairs in Russia, the terrorist country that unleashed the war:
- Ruble cheapens and returns to negative weekly dynamics
- Producers demanded to tie food prices to the ruble exchange rate Smiley
- Russian reserves lost $6.3 bln due to revaluation during the week
- Russian arms sales abroad fell more than threefold
But according to the international criminal and fantasist Putin - Russia is in the top five most powerful economies in the world Smiley))))

- US tacitly eased sanctions against Iran to replace Russian oil in China
- Russians set a 100-year record for political emigration. It should be understood that the most civilized, adequate part of the russian population is leaving. Which will join the economies of Western countries and will be useful. At the same time, the same thing will happen in Russia - degradation and economic decline.
You can't raise the economy on "ura-patriots", slave labor is ineffective Smiley

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You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

"You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He co-sponsored and sponsored an amendment that was unanimously voted for by all members of the U.S. House of Representatives and passed."

No, you are again trying to manipulate and assume that there are only idiots here Smiley Let me explain.
1. There is NO recognition of the Azov Battalion as neo-Nazi and fascist. There is only a reference to "Foreign Policy magazine characterized "Azov" numbering 1000 people.... "The battalion is described as 'blatantly neo-Nazi' and 'fascist'." and a few other media outlets. And in the end the question is not about recognizing Azov as "Nazi", but not providing them with arms "because some journalists wrote that they are a Nazi battalion".  Once again, re-read fully and carefully the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers". Or was the amendment not about limiting the supply of arms to the Azov Battalion ?
 
And also point out the US legislative act where the Azov Battalion is RECOGNIZED as a "Nazi and fascist" unit ?  I am waiting for interesting links, you will have something to do all weekend trying to get out of this situation Smiley
I think you are in a hermetic cocoon of information and in captivity of meta-cognitive distortions, and it is unlikely that for you there are arguments of a sufficient degree of persuasiveness that can force you to reconsider your beliefs on this issue.

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Wait, you're still here? Your Motherland wants you on the Eastern front! While your more brave compatriots are dying in Donbas, you're cowardly sitting in safety of your apartment and typing bullshit on an internet forum? Did you bribe the recruitment officer? Or still no conscription of mentally retarded?  Grin Grin Grin

Anyway, if everything is so grim for Russia, oil sales are declining, then why where I live gas prices are soaring? Please note I don't live in Russia, China or India. Perhaps you could provide a valid source? Wait, I know you're not going to, you never do. Most things happen in your imagination only.  Grin

As to the state propaganda, I can ensure you that Ukrainian propaganda is MUCH more similar to German nazi propaganda during WW2. Just read your own posts, that's a very good example of Ukrainian propaganda.

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it looks like very soon salaries in Russia will be paid with oil

In oil? Why not in rubles? It costs Putin nothing to pay in rubles, he's printing it.  Cool


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I'm getting more and more convinced that you're in a school for developmentally delayed children. And you may be 30+ years old, but your behavior gives you away.
So, once again, for everyone:
0. First try to prove, with arguments and facts, your multiple morbid fantasies ? I've asked you 100500 times to provide at least minimal arguments to prove your fantasies, the response has been anything but a response:) WAIT Smiley You don't want the truth, and you don't want proof. You need to realize your complexes, and draw attention to yourself Smiley
1. Once again I'll explain - on February 25, 2022, I together with my son enrolled in the Territorial Defense, and until December 2022 I defended my homeland from the brown plague of Rashism.  In December I was demobilized due to injury. Now I actively help my brothers to destroy Rashism on our land. This is financial, technical and consulting assistance Smiley You wanted to insult me primitively? You failed Smiley I'm sure you will never go to defend your country, but will cowardly sit somewhere Smiley. This is normal for the supporters of Rashism...

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Protection of public authorities, local governments, critical facilities, important public enterprises and communications
Deployment at checkpoints
Combating sabotage and intelligence forces of the enemy and any illegal armed formations and looters
Maintaining safety and security in any of the administrative divisions of Ukraine (regions, cities, districts and townships)
Organization of resistance and (or) guerrilla groups – in case of territory being captured by the enemy
Providing search and rescue and disaster response and mitigation during cases of peacetime natural and man-made disasters
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Defense_Forces_(Ukraine)

But you never joined the army and you've never been to Donbas and real fighting areas. Now, more than half a year later after you were "wounded" you're still at home and not in trenches in the East. Which is weird for such a patriotic person as yourself.  Grin Grin Grin

Next, during the time period you claim you served in the "territorial defence", you were visiting the forum frequently, posting some 3-5 posts a day, which makes me think that's just another lie. So typical for you, I'm not surprised.  Grin Grin Grin
  
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2. "oil sales are falling, then why are gas prices rising where I live?". - here is a simple answer - your government reads you for biomass and makes money on you Smiley By the way - you don't want to tell the truth, name your country of residence and city - so people can check your fairy tales ? Smiley You probably won't... The reason is banal - it will be difficult for you to lie Smiley

I'm living in a country, which is sponsoring Ukraine, I'm literally paying taxes to support your army. Although I'd prefer not to, but I have no choice. So maybe you can start with showing some respect?  Cool

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3. "As for the state propaganda, I can assure you that Ukrainian propaganda is WAY more similar to German Nazi propaganda during WWII" - this is of course another cheap and primitive attempt to pass off wishful thinking. But, I will continue the dialog - please ARGUMENTS ? Smiley Or are they not expected ?
before you write your next nonsense - read what is state propaganda, give arguments proving that in Ukraine, the media is totally controlled by the STATE. And we will all laugh heartily at your ridiculous attempts to deny reality Smiley

Ok, that's easy: if the news coming from a country's media is one-sided, biased, alternative opinions are not welcome, no freedom of speech, everything is either black or white, no halftones then it's definitely totally controlled by the state. Check your own posts: your brain is controlled by the STATE too.  Grin

Finally, getting back to the topic:



Everything is going according to the plan, just keep supporting Ukraine and don't ask questions!  Grin
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Russia Ukraine War has now become a curse it is not only a war but a torture to developing and developed countries.The biggest crisis due to war in Russia and Ukraine is energy crisis and food crisis. Some nations are pouring oil into war in the name of sanctions, which oil is not a liquid, but a means of inciting war, as a result of which the developed world is slowly drifting into recession.Some developed countries continue their arms trade in the name of cessation of hostilities, while others console themselves by saying that they are not pro-combatants, but in fact they are war-facilitators instead of cessation of hostilities.As a result of the Russia-Ukraine war, the world's economic system is collapsing day by day and the developing or developed countries are getting deeper and deeper And the lack of it is creating adverse conditions for the poor people. Many sectors have been affected with no one to take responsibility including banking sector, online sector and known as the biggest currency.
And the lack of it is creating adverse conditions for the poor people. Many sectors have been affected with no one to take responsibility including banking sector, online sector and known as the biggest currency.There are many proposals coming to the UN to stop the war in Russia and Ukraine, which are only nominal because the five main countries are not agreeing and blaming each other, the US or other countries.Talking about stopping the war, on the other hand, Russia is trying to perpetuate the war by giving various provocative statements.War or anything artificially created cannot be easily stopped because the people behind the artificial creation are the ones who are suffering the consequences of these wines all over the world especially the poor countries.As a result of this war many adverse effects have come to our world first economic system education social system social crime increase banking system collapse foreign deficit
As a result of this war many adverse effects have come to our world first economic system education social system social crime increase banking system collapse foreign deficit Many countries are declaring bankruptcy due to the reserve gap, such as Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and two or three other countries.Law and order is deteriorating in all the countries of the world because people do not have enough to eat because they have no other way, their backs are against the wall and the developed countries are supplying various weapons.leading to committing many criminal acts thus destroying our youth society indulging in various drugs or other activities not only a country but the entire world is concerned and every man Wondering when it will end and where it will end with no one to stop them

Now is the time for all the world leaders to sit together and come to a decision and find out the root cause of the war. Now only those who are leading are not taking into account they do not want the war stop to be an organization with nations and their effective measures to force the two sides to sit together and stop the war. All world leaders should force them to sit together and solve their problems
Finally I can say that this war has become a curse for mankind and it is leading to the third world war, it has created a world depression and the effects of this war are in every part of the world.We must stop the spread of this war, then we will have a better and prosperous world and all countries must come together to overcome its effects and develop various economic systems. Advanced systems like Bitcoin need to be advanced and with appropriate measures to survive the post-war situation or the effects of war.It can play an important role.
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You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

"You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He co-sponsored and sponsored an amendment that was unanimously voted for by all members of the U.S. House of Representatives and passed."

No, you are again trying to manipulate and assume that there are only idiots here Smiley Let me explain.
1. There is NO recognition of the Azov Battalion as neo-Nazi and fascist. There is only a reference to "Foreign Policy magazine characterized "Azov" numbering 1000 people.... "The battalion is described as 'blatantly neo-Nazi' and 'fascist'." and a few other media outlets. And in the end the question is not about recognizing Azov as "Nazi", but not providing them with arms "because some journalists wrote that they are a Nazi battalion".  Once again, re-read fully and carefully the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers". Or was the amendment not about limiting the supply of arms to the Azov Battalion ?
 
And also point out the US legislative act where the Azov Battalion is RECOGNIZED as a "Nazi and fascist" unit ?  I am waiting for interesting links, you will have something to do all weekend trying to get out of this situation Smiley
I think you are in a hermetic cocoon of information and in captivity of meta-cognitive distortions, and it is unlikely that for you there are arguments of a sufficient degree of persuasiveness that can force you to reconsider your beliefs on this issue.

Words. Unusual for you. You're obviously using the chat room to make yourself look smart. Especially in a situation where you can't answer a question because you don't want to.) I understand, I understand - the truth stings your eyes and wrings your hands and shatters the ethereal world of hope and faith in a fairy tale.)

In general, it is expected, and you and I know perfectly well that there is no RECOGNITION of Azov, what you in the isolated from the truthful information, the space of propaganda, pour into your ears. These are your speculations and attempts to play with words, passing off your "fantasies" as reality. In a word - again you did not surprise me, but only strengthened my opinion about the new Nazism, totalitarianism and deliberate, controlled degradation of the population of Russia....

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You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

"You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He co-sponsored and sponsored an amendment that was unanimously voted for by all members of the U.S. House of Representatives and passed."

No, you are again trying to manipulate and assume that there are only idiots here Smiley Let me explain.
1. There is NO recognition of the Azov Battalion as neo-Nazi and fascist. There is only a reference to "Foreign Policy magazine characterized "Azov" numbering 1000 people.... "The battalion is described as 'blatantly neo-Nazi' and 'fascist'." and a few other media outlets. And in the end the question is not about recognizing Azov as "Nazi", but not providing them with arms "because some journalists wrote that they are a Nazi battalion".  Once again, re-read fully and carefully the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers". Or was the amendment not about limiting the supply of arms to the Azov Battalion ?
 
And also point out the US legislative act where the Azov Battalion is RECOGNIZED as a "Nazi and fascist" unit ?  I am waiting for interesting links, you will have something to do all weekend trying to get out of this situation Smiley
I think you are in a hermetic cocoon of information and in captivity of meta-cognitive distortions, and it is unlikely that for you there are arguments of a sufficient degree of persuasiveness that can force you to reconsider your beliefs on this issue.

Words. Unusual for you. You're obviously using the chat room to make yourself look smart. Especially in a situation where you can't answer a question because you don't want to.) I understand, I understand - the truth stings your eyes and wrings your hands and shatters the ethereal world of hope and faith in a fairy tale.)

In general, it is expected, and you and I know perfectly well that there is no RECOGNITION of Azov, what you in the isolated from the truthful information, the space of propaganda, pour into your ears. These are your speculations and attempts to play with words, passing off your "fantasies" as reality. In a word - again you did not surprise me, but only strengthened my opinion about the new Nazism, totalitarianism and deliberate, controlled degradation of the population of Russia....
I don't quite understand what link you want from me. Following the unanimous passage of the Conyers Amendment in 2015, the US Congress considers the Azov Battalion to be a neo-Nazi entity, and the standard phrase follows in many of the enacted funding laws: "None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to provide arms, training, or other assistance to the Azov Battalion." For example, this phrase can be found in the following laws:
Public Law No: 117-328
Public Law No: 117-103
Public Law No: 116-93
Public Law No: 116-260
Public Law No: 115-124
Public Law No: 115-245
Public Law No: 115-31
Public Law No: 115-123

Too bad you don't know how to use the search. Otherwise, you would easily find all these links yourself.

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Russia Ukraine War has now become a curse it is not only a war but a torture to developing and developed countries.


World War II, unleashed by Nazi Germany, also had similar consequences. Rashism is the same Nazism, but implemented by the Kremlin. And such events are expected. That is why - as Nazism was destroyed, so it is necessary to destroy Rashism, otherwise the world will plunge into chaos.... World War II, unleashed by Nazi Germany, also had similar consequences. Rashism is the same Nazism, but implemented by the Kremlin. And such events are expected. That is why - as Nazism was destroyed, so it is necessary to destroy Rashism, otherwise the world will plunge into chaos....
And now Russia is at war not only against Ukraine, Russia is at war against civilization, progress, development, freedom.

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Russia Ukraine War has now become a curse it is not only a war but a torture to developing and developed countries.


World War II, unleashed by Nazi Germany, also had similar consequences. Rashism is the same Nazism, but implemented by the Kremlin. And such events are expected. That is why - as Nazism was destroyed, so it is necessary to destroy Rashism, otherwise the world will plunge into chaos.... World War II, unleashed by Nazi Germany, also had similar consequences. Rashism is the same Nazism, but implemented by the Kremlin. And such events are expected. That is why - as Nazism was destroyed, so it is necessary to destroy Rashism, otherwise the world will plunge into chaos....
And now Russia is at war not only against Ukraine, Russia is at war against civilization, progress, development, freedom.

This post has zero sense and no connection to our topic whatsoever. It's pure obvious 100% blablabla propaganda. Pretty damn low quality. You accuse others of being similar to Hitler and acting like him but for some reason if I read your post aloud in my head it reminds me of someone... interesting, huh?   Grin
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This post has zero sense and no connection to our topic whatsoever. It's pure obvious 100% blablabla propaganda. Pretty damn low quality. You accuse others of being similar to Hitler and acting like him but for some reason if I read your post aloud in my head it reminds me of someone... interesting, huh?   Grin

Apart from the EU nations and American vassals such as Japan and Australia, no one cares about this war as of now. It has been going on for more than 18 months and by now the rest of the world has realized that it is essentially a proxy war between Russia and the US, rather than one between Russia and Ukraine. For us Indians, there have been both positives and negatives from the war. As a result of sanctions, we are getting cheap crude oil and refined products from Russia, but at the same time the prices of wheat, sunflower oil, fertilizer and soya has gone up.

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