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If I didn't mark stake as you put it, I don't think those numbers on the spreadsheet for Newcastle to beat PSG & Atletico to win would show the stake I put on those two games for, unless there is a different process am unaware of, hope its not some mistaken identity here as everything is/was good on my side, a second look wouldn't be a bad idea 💡 no offence ~ Btw the Atletico game did have the stake marked Roll Eyes Anyway I understand the process now... Marking Stake helps with automation -- so that you guys don't rely on me manually counting points for 52 individuals. I manually added that Atletico mark for you after your post (actually I've been kindly doing it every round for people when I notice it, you're welcome). You can see from your other selection that you didn't mark "Stake" =) I don't get paid to do this, in case you were wondering... =) I see this as a service to the forum. So you'll forgive me if I remind people to follow instructions. No offence of course, all good! I just want everyone to enjoy, but yeah, help me out, guys, by just submitting clean and complete picks =p
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looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well
and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there
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December 11, 2023, 10:57:17 AM |
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looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well
and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there
As always, I’d rather believe that Newcastle’s streak will end than continue, it’s unlikely they’ve forgotten how to score goals Why do you consider Milan to be the favorite in the upcoming game? Newcastle have terrible results, but Milan are no better. If we take the last 10 games in all competitions, Milan have 3 wins, 2 draws and 5 losses, and Newcastle have 4 wins, 2 draws and 4 losses. Almost equal results but Newcastle plays at home. Bookmakers have Newcastle as big favourites: 1.79 - 3.92 - 3.92 It turns out to be a rather piquant situation that forces PSG to play strictly to win in Dortmund. But Dortmund hardly wants to take second place in the group and get a top opponent in the 1/8, so the game will be serious. I don’t know how this will end, but for some reason I want to make a multi-bet on the fact that both games will end in a draw. I think the final odds of 15.75 look like super value.
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looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well
and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there
Newcastle so far this season has been disappointing imho. In the EPL, they're decent at home but terrible at away matches. But with AC Milan also not being that good at the CL and it's a home match for Newcastle, they could get the win in this spot. I mean yeah, they prolly have nothing to play for anymore but don't forget that it's for pride now as they're playing in front of their supporters. But from a betting perspective, I wouldn't touch it. Could still end up with something like 1 - 1. :/ So yeah, the value side is def on AC Milan.
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Pot A and Pot B are already picked.
Pot B I am still very curious about Group F, betting 5 points on Dortmund, this is difficult for us to guess on the other hand PSG will try to win points to qualify, usually playing sometimes Dortmund is much better.
Betting 5 points for Newcastle, the odds are quite small but playing at home Newcastle always have a strong mentality this is one of their motivations to win with Milan, in theory Milan in my prediction still seems unable to press at home to Newcastle.
Bad matches away are different, but this is the Champion League, Newcastle can be more aggressive.
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looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well
and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there
Yeah, I liked their start but I think most people (myself included) overlooked BVB's pedigree in this competition. I think it's really a bit unfortunate Toon had this group full of experienced clubs. Then again, it's really the style that should have suited them and I still really think they got robbed by PSG. I'm with KTChampions though, I think Milan are the less likely to win. I feel like this is a draw -- it's my pick for the prediction game, and I got money on Dortmund to avenge last week's poor results. This may be the group of death but I feel like anyone from the other groups will be equally happy to meet the ones who progress. Each with talent but each far below what they're capable of.
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~snip Then again, it's really the style that should have suited them and I still really think they got robbed by PSG.
not just them, I was robbed by that goal as well joking aside, UEFA officials also confirmed that it wasn't a penalty, but overall, what good that has been, it was a draw and it will stay like that nevertheless, I am not planning to make a bet on Milan, just thinking that they are closer to win and also would like to see PSG out, if possible Dortmund lost two important matches in last few days, it is really hard to expect they will lose third as well, but also possible
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December 11, 2023, 09:47:03 PM |
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Damn, both Borussia and Milan offer insanely attractive odds for those that will go all-in.
I wanted to go all in on Milan, then wanted to go 3-way (Milan win, Inter draw, Borussia win) and ultimately switched to 10 points 'safety' bet.
I hate picking teams to win in situations in which they don't need points at all - but I really feel that the pick I chose wins. It will still be enough only to defend the top 5 - and only unless Milan wins and half the people pick it.
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I almost forgot about this but as soon as I laid down to sleep I immediately remember that I have to put the picks on as tomorrow I will be working late .I just submitted my picks,this time I choose 5 games with 2 points staked at each game and I choose odds of at least 2.5 up to near 4,I think since this is the last match day there will be quite some surprise results which would help me go further in the Pot B pool otherwise if the games come as people expect I am putting those results in Pot A of the pool. Tomorrow will be a very important day also for Pot A as the person who makes the most points will climb good positions and we know after this last match day the number of games will be fewer.
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It's here! I'm rooting for Newcastle (!) and Dortmund (still want the to go top) but I think the pick of the night has to be United/Bayern, I can't help enjoying every period of crap for the Red Devils, but if there's time, PSV - Arsenal should be a treat too! I see an interesting early trend in the guys who've already submitted, but so as not to influence decisions for the remaining people, I'll reserve them for after Wednesday =) Friendly reminder to all those yet to submit: six hours or so left. 25 of you left... don't break the record of 4 missing! jayce LTU_btc mv1986 Royse777 Little Mouse Igebotz bullrun2020bro notblox1 M1cha3lM Spack17 entebah 1miau icopress tokeweed rohang NotATether Rruchi Man Pulsar77 Learn Bitcoin Saint-loup arallmuus Omikifuse seek3r logfiles el che
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It's here! I'm rooting for Newcastle (!) and Dortmund (still want the to go top) but I think the pick of the night has to be United/Bayern, I can't help enjoying every period of crap for the Red Devils,
In term of game to watch then yeah but odds suck on pot B between these two teams. We need to win against Bayern Munich and hope that Copenhagen - Galatasaray ended up with a draw to proceed to the play offs. This needs more than just a miracle but I dont really care if we dont get that top 2 spot, I just want them to win against Munich tonight. It sucks when your team keep on losing and being made fun off. Home team advantage lets go boys ! Anyway, I still havent made up my mind on which team to throw all my 10 point stake on
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December 12, 2023, 10:59:17 AM |
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Damn, both Borussia and Milan offer insanely attractive odds for those that will go all-in. ~
For Pot B bets, yes. Another (in my opinion) anomaly caught my attention: in the games Dortmund - PSG and Newcastle - Milan, the odds for a draw are very high, 4.02 in the first case and 3.92 in the second. On average, bookmakers quote a draw as 3.5 in pairs where the teams are roughly equal and each needs a win. Isn't this the case? PSG need a win to ensure Newcastle don't overtake them. Newcastle needs a win to claim 2nd place. Dortmund needs a win to stay in first place and have an easy round of 16, and Milan can still make the top 2 too. It seemed to me that in these pairs there is a lot of value in a bet on a draw if we are talking about a cash bet. ~ Tomorrow will be a very important day also for Pot A as the person who makes the most points will climb good positions and we know after this last match day the number of games will be fewer.
In the playoffs it is really difficult to seriously improve your position, but still there will be 29 games ahead, which is from 0 to 87 points, so even if someone is more successful in guessing the exact scores, then only with this can you win back 10-20 points. If you take risks and guess the wins of the underdogs/draws, then the increase in points can be even greater, in fact, many participants still have a chance.
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December 12, 2023, 11:10:22 AM |
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I'm more concerned about Pot A. I'm chasing Ulven for the top spot and this is the first round in which I've had so many doubts. A lot of teams have nothing to play for, it's always a cointoss in such situations. It's a huge round - those at the top after this one have basically got their hands on the money. @buwaytress - in retrospective, it's quite a shame you couldn't transfer the 10k rewards money into BTC
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December 12, 2023, 11:48:53 AM |
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I almost forgot about this but as soon as I laid down to sleep I immediately remember that I have to put the picks on as tomorrow I will be working late .I just submitted my picks,this time I choose 5 games with 2 points staked at each game and I choose odds of at least 2.5 up to near 4,I think since this is the last match day there will be quite some surprise results which would help me go further in the Pot B pool otherwise if the games come as people expect I am putting those results in Pot A of the pool. Tomorrow will be a very important day also for Pot A as the person who makes the most points will climb good positions and we know after this last match day the number of games will be fewer. I split my bets in the opposite way, 2x5. No regrets, but just really hoping I don't get zero AGAIN. I just want a prize spot because Pot A looks lost to me. Same strat as you though Pot A my expected result. Pot B my "please let it happen" result lol @cryptofrka I was thinking the same thing! I guess BTC jumped 25% since the cash prize was deposited, so it's more like $12500 now. Annoying also we have to wait until MAY for it!!
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December 12, 2023, 12:37:14 PM |
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Since I'm way behind, I decided to be clever and try to get above average points somehow. I hope it works out. Lolol. But sad to say it usually doesn't. As for the other pot, I'll just go all in on a draw for the Man United vs Bayern Munich match. Lolol. I think I need a steak of 5 all ins or so to get back in the running. :/ That's a tall order but then again you never know... I'm still a tad hopeful I could do it.
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December 12, 2023, 12:42:57 PM |
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@buwaytress - in retrospective, it's quite a shame you couldn't transfer the 10k rewards money into BTC I was in support of converting the reward in BTC, it doesn't make sense to keep it in USDT or equivalent. I still can't understand what exactly was in sponsor's mind and how this can be beneficial.
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December 12, 2023, 04:22:58 PM |
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Don't have much expectations to achieve something in Pot B, so, went with boring predictions again. But probably will end with less than 10 points again . Can't wait for Group A finish. Don't expect lucky outcome for MU, Baayern should be angry after shameful defeat in Bundesliga. While Copenhagen - Galatasaray game is golden chance for one of teams to reach next round, it's really hard to predict something here. PSV - Arsenal and Real Sociedad - Inter sounds nice, but in general, don't have big importance as both teams already qualified. Sevilla is probably going to end their European journey even without spot in Europa League as they have to win away vs Lens. In the playoffs it is really difficult to seriously improve your position, but still there will be 29 games ahead, which is from 0 to 87 points, so even if someone is more successful in guessing the exact scores, then only with this can you win back 10-20 points. If you take risks and guess the wins of the underdogs/draws, then the increase in points can be even greater, in fact, many participants still have a chance.
With less games remaining it will be more difficult to improve your position, but still, possible. Though, you not only have to be lucky with your predictions but also that your opponents above wouldn't do very well.
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December 12, 2023, 05:40:01 PM |
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It's here! I'm rooting for Newcastle (!)
Those boys are mentally defeated & going nowhere other than home...and there is a reason experienced teams progress at this stage which they lack looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well
and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there
I like your analysis towards Newcastle and share the same sentiments !! And the fact that the Champions league has found them at a time they seem vulnerable with their current bad form, I don't see them going through this stage but worst case scenario could be dropping into the Europa League...But then again their chances to qualify at this point will lean towards PSG's performance who will want to repay that humiliating result by showing them the exit door and will throw everything they have to win their game!
These games don't have juicy odds for that jump we are all looking for in pool B
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December 12, 2023, 09:55:18 PM |
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Europa league will have new winner as Sevilla finished last in group. This season they're looking just terrible both in Europe and Spain. United is just useless, they weren't capable to do anything against Bayer - team for which this game is meaningles. Furthermore, they also didn't got positive result from other game and Copenhagen qualifies to next round. And thank you Ceballos for saving my bet with that late goal that brings win for Real .
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Sayonara United. cryptofrka and Hhampuz consolidated their positions. I think Bayern was very smart but I took some risks yet and wait for tomorrow to pay off. Europa league will have new winner as Sevilla finished last in group. This season they're looking just terrible both in Europe and Spain.
Lots of people fell for Sevilla. I did too before but not this time! @buwaytress - in retrospective, it's quite a shame you couldn't transfer the 10k rewards money into BTC I was in support of converting the reward in BTC, it doesn't make sense to keep it in USDT or equivalent. I still can't understand what exactly was in sponsor's mind and how this can be beneficial. Sponsor made the choice, we expressed a preference but happily accepted the condition, it's really quite straightforward. Not their reason (we didn't ask) but I understood immediately from my own experience in budgeting and planning that it's a simple case of volatility and accounting, which, like it or not for a corporate entity, needs to be in hard, predictable figures, possibly even in fiat. An Annual Report of sponsorships would then say: we sponsored $10,000 for this event. That would be true yesterday, today, and 10 years from now. If they'd given Bitcoin, their annual report would say X BTC, worth $10k at escrow date, worth something else at disbursement. If Bitcoin pumps, great, they can boast a bigger dollar value. If not? Then they could only report a sponsorship of a lower value at disbursement. Also, imagine the marketing fiasco of "hey, we sponsored $10k" then BTC takes a crap in May. Then you get Twitter trolls saying "yeah no, your prizes are only worth $5k". Get over it, eat the cake you got =p It's a really nice cake!
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