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[OrangeFren]

I have a much better and more advanced method to avoid such situations:
Never use FixedFloat!

I completely understand what you OF are pointing out, but there is too much news like this that comes with FixedFloat. I'm starting to suspect that their domain ff.io is actually short for FrozenFunds.

An understandable decision

In this other swap the user sent stolen coins

I'd say: "don't use stolen coins", but we all know the notion of "taint" is sold in such a way that it's an attack on fungibility, and current owners are being held liable for crimes in the past. Add the fact that FF itself is anonymous and the shadyness is complete.

Yes, that's fair. AML scoring is reading tea leaves.

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In this other swap the user sent stolen coins

I'd say: "don't use stolen coins", but we all know the notion of "taint" is sold in such a way that it's an attack on fungibility, and current owners are being held liable for crimes in the past. Add the fact that FF itself is anonymous and the shadyness is complete.

If FF confiscates a user's coins (leaving their reason aside), it could somehow be considered theft. Since we know that compliance with regulations is just an excuse, and "allegedly" stolen coins will never be returned to the original victim (ok, maybe Bybit was an exception). This means that stolen coins should receive another layer of the theft label, this time by FF.
How should such cases be treated?

[LoyceV]

This means that stolen coins should receive another layer of the theft label, this time by FF.
How should such cases be treated?

Let me just add how they handled a "taint" case in the past:

Funds from our hot addresses are automatically consolidated to our main addresses, as funds are sent from us only from our main addresses. Thus, law enforcement agencies see that the funds have been transferred to the addresses of our service.

Following the above transactions, it looks like you've "mixed" OPs funds with other funds and consolidated them into bc1qns9f7yfx3ry9lj6yz7c9er0vwa0ye2eklpzqfw. Aren't you concerned that those funds you deemed criminal are now in your own address, meaning anyone that receives Bitcoin from your exchange now receives some of those criminal funds? It shows once again that "taint" is only made-up BS.

The funds remain frozen at our addresses, and when the frozen funds are seized by the authorities, they are also sent from our addresses.

That's not true. You say the funds "remain frozen", but that can't be since you've mixed them already.
The first transaction was mixed in this transaction and that same output was used to sent to another address. The second transaction was mixed in this transaction and also sent to another address. None of the funds were frozen in your wallet, you're normally using them to pay other people.
To summarize: if those funds came from criminal activity as you claim, you've now sent it to other innocent users who now own those "tainted" Bitcoins.
It sounds very much like you only care about "taint" when it's convenient for you.

[dkbit98]

FixedFloat freezes XMR swap
Yesterday we received a report that a user who used FixedFloat to swap away from Monero had his deposit frozen.

Fixedfloat probably has one of the worst reputation for doing this, but they outdone themselves with freezing monero
I think you should add more visible warning for customers who are thinking of using them because of potentially better rates.
As for using browser new incognito...I think it's better to open them in new Tro browser window (if possible).

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FixedFloat freezes XMR swap
Yesterday we received a report that a user who used FixedFloat to swap away from Monero had his deposit frozen.

Fixedfloat probably has one of the worst reputation for doing this, but they outdone themselves with freezing monero
I think you should add more visible warning for customers who are thinking of using them because of potentially better rates.

This is a good point. How to deal with that 10 points score as a best rate in orangefren. I would suggest to delist fixedfloat but this might be an extreme opinion as it still considered a major platform, however it is proved to be one of the worst reputation.
Recently I have noticed how many trust orangefren ratings and might blindly trust it. I guess not all of them are following updates in this thread.

[LoyceV]

The user was doing multiple swaps at once with FF. One of them was from XMR, but another wasn't. In this other swap the user sent stolen coins, and since they were sent using a transparent blockchain, FF froze that swap. However, it turns out that when FF freezes a swap they freeze all the subsequent swaps this user starts.

they outdone themselves with freezing monero
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I think it's better to open them in new Tro browser window

The next step would be to freeze a Tor user's Monero because another Tor user sent them stolen funds.