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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL  (Read 47247 times)
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July 15, 2024, 05:19:20 PM
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Hopefully this is Southgate last Euro, because it's time for England to try another coach and all the England staff have to be replaced. Southgate was so tactically poor that the luxury players had to bow in the final. Cole Palmer goal was in vain, Southgate should have included him as a starter. Palmer had too little playing time to maximize his time. Overall I and several other gamblers didn't seem surprised when betting on Spain winning early on. We watched together but felt dissatisfied because England did not provide fierce resistance.

Actually Southgate is a good coach and in fact he managed to bring England twice to the Euro final, but indeed the poor selection of players actually made Southgate have to continue to lose the championship trophy, as in yesterday's final match where Southgate should have been more focused on playing players who performed well in previous matches such as Wattkins and Palmer,  But I don't know what made Southgate reserve that the two players and hope to make a miracle when the match is almost over, even though England game is better than the previous match but England looked stalemated when they attacked and finally the chances they were able to create were very minimal in endangering the Spanish goal.
Reportedly, currently England is still entrusting Southgate to handle the national team ahead of the World Cup, Although perhaps the decision will get a lot of rejection, it seems that England has no other choice at this time because the World Cup is getting closer, while to find another coach and form a new team framework will certainly cost a lot of money and time, so that England will keep Southgate.

Yeah maybe that's a fact, we all saw this match and Spain dominated from all sides even though we know England has a good squad but unable to compete with Spain. Southgate prefers Harry Kane as the main player in the lineup and this strategy has been successful in the last few matches, but Southgate forgot that this was the final match and their opponents already know how to anticipate Harry Kane in the defensive area so he couldn't move any further.

On the other hand, Spain played well and they have a great mentality. We know that before reaching the final, Spain had beaten several strong teams so that when they faced England in the final they had no problems, overall Spain should be appreciated for their consistent performance throughout the tournament.
Although Spain dominated the game in the match, but actually England was also able to put a lot of pressure on Spain on several occasions, England was actually able to keep up with the aggressiveness of Spain game but indeed England's attacking line which looked very bad actually made it difficult for England to create goals in the match
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July 15, 2024, 05:28:25 PM
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Whether or not it was a surprise that they made it to the final is something that can be debated. The reason is that in terms of the composition of the players they have, they actually have a very good squad, in every position they are occupied by well-known players whose names we are familiar with. However, they only lost in terms of the game they were able to show so far.
As a squad I say they deserve to be in the final, but game-wise there are other teams who are better than them. But unfortunately the team that had a better game had to fall first. For example, Germany, they had to meet Spain so they had to be eliminated, even though in my opinion Germany could have been a team that deserved to be in the final if they weren't so quick to face Spain. Even comparing England with teams that are considered mediocre, I don't think their game is any better.
I have to agree with what you said, in terms of game Germany or France are better than England. Spain was actually not the team most favored to win the trophy at first, but slowly they managed to impress, eliminating other strong candidates such as Germany and France. In fact, England does have better squad depth, but Gareth Southgate strategy is considered ineffective in reducing Spain's aggressive play. In my opinion, Gareth Southgate must update his strategy in the future, if he still retains his position. Spain managed to win the Euro trophy for the 4th time in history, and they really deserved it.

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July 15, 2024, 05:38:21 PM
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Are you really interested in this moronic, unclear on what grounds, created “tournament” consisting of one game?  Wink
I would love to see a serious game between Spain and Argentina, but it will be an ordinary friendly game.
By the way, it’s funny to compare the teams’ path to this match:
Spain defeated: Italy, Croatia, Albania, Georgia, Germany, France, England.
Argentina: Canada (twice), Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia
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The Spain team may have defeated the stronger teams to become the Euro champions. Argentina, on the other hand, have won against relatively minor teams. But do you think Argentina is far behind Spain? If you think that, you're living in a fool's paradise. I don't see any reason to think Argentina team is weak. Also don't forget Argentina won the SOFC World Cup. And since before the World Cup Argentina team has been in great form. Still the party has maintained continuity.

Spain's squad may be relatively strong. However, Argentina's match strategy and players' bonding is very strong. So I don't think Argentina will lose against Spain. The match between Spain and Argentina will surely be very competitive.

Why do you think for me if you can just read what I actually wrote?  Roll Eyes
It's quite funny that simple facts (the teams' path to the title) aroused some unhealthy emotions in you.



By the way, it would be more logical (and then the “tournament” would at least have some justification for its name) if first the winner of the America's Cup played with the winner of the African Cup of Nations and only then played with the European champion.

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July 15, 2024, 05:41:12 PM
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Spain defeated England to win the trophy. With this squad and with this fight, Spain really deserved to win the trophy this season. In the final match, we can say that they played a good game against England, again showing their difference and superiority. There were some unfortunate moments in the game. Especially Olmo's ball from the line in the last seconds was one of the most important moments of the game.

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July 15, 2024, 05:44:22 PM
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Yes, Harry Kane cannot be blamed, even though in last night's match he didn't show a good performance, but if you look at England's game, the one who should be blamed is the coach, Southgate was unable to utilize his star players. It can be seen that England's game is having difficulty developing, the attacks that are built are very monotonous and easy for the Spanish players to guess, and only rely on long balls, not many surprises occurred in last night's match, making the match less interesting, England must immediately improve and immediately fire Southgate who must immediately considered.

I have no doubts that Spain will become European champions this year, it's clear they control the game on the pitch very well. Once again, congratulations to the Spanish national team for becoming Euro champions in 2024
Bro, Southgate has to answer for this snoozefest versus Spain. In international football, depending on the same big names (Kane, Bellingham, and Foden) every time doesn't work. Like a broken record, Southgate refuses to adapt his strategy, particularly in crucial games. Man, I'm killing myself. Young people like Cole Palmer and Ollie Watkins here are eager and ready to play. Give them a chance! Perhaps then we could have shocked Spain and avoided ending with this expected loss. Southgate has been making dubious decisions during this entire competition. Really, bro, it's time for him to consider whether he is the appropriate leader of England
I can say that Spain won the cup comfortably thanks to Southgate. The decisions taken were quite interesting. Kane was having a bad game. He took it off in the 60th minute, but no one would have expected the change in Kane. In the half hour, Kane's probability of scoring a goal depends on his one touch, even in his worst game.

Of course, it's not just the Kane decision. The England team owned by Southgate would have been more resilient against Spain if he hadn't just done the unbelievable things he did. If we put aside that Spain is a very strong and good team.


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July 15, 2024, 05:50:23 PM
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Oh god just let it make it to page 400 and let's forget about this!!!
The football was good but it was probably my worst choice in putting bets, I simply couldn't with the basics and stick to the favorites, I just had to improvise every single time and have a near miss in the best case or a full 0 out of 5 for the day. As much as it was bad for me I think it came worse for the bookies too, there were no real major surprises really, a few draws, maybe Italy out but looking at the ods the market got the thing pretty good.

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July 15, 2024, 05:51:39 PM
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I am now only waiting for Finalissima. Euro champions Spain will play against Copa champions Argentina. Undoubtedly, the match will be very competitive.

The chemistry between Spain's players is excellent, as well as the team's match strategy. On the other hand, Argentina's team bonding is also very strong. We have seen strong and composed performances from Argentina's players in every match of the Copa America. Colombia's players attacked a lot in the final. But Argentina was tactful. Although Argentina's players attacked less, each of their attacks was strong. However, the Yamal vs Messi match will undoubtedly be very competitive.
Are you really interested in this moronic, unclear on what grounds, created “tournament” consisting of one game?  Wink
I would love to see a serious game between Spain and Argentina, but it will be an ordinary friendly game.
By the way, it’s funny to compare the teams’ path to this match:
Spain defeated: Italy, Croatia, Albania, Georgia, Germany, France, England.
Argentina: Canada (twice), Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia
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Yesterday, Spain defeated England to win the UEFA Euros Championship while Argentina defeated Colombia in the final of the Copa America to clinch the trophy which means that Spain and Argentina are going to meet each in the Finalissima. It's a dream come through for Spain's young winger Lamine Yamal who had a very impressive performance in the European championship. Lamine Yamal who was once bathed by Lionel Messi when he was few months old will have the opportunity to play against his football idol. Whoever wins that game and trophy I don't think will mean much to Lamine Yamal because his most important interest is to play against and that dream have finally come to pass for the talented footballer.
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July 15, 2024, 06:04:44 PM
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Whether or not it was a surprise that they made it to the final is something that can be debated. The reason is that in terms of the composition of the players they have, they actually have a very good squad, in every position they are occupied by well-known players whose names we are familiar with. However, they only lost in terms of the game they were able to show so far.
As a squad I say they deserve to be in the final, but game-wise there are other teams who are better than them. But unfortunately the team that had a better game had to fall first. For example, Germany, they had to meet Spain so they had to be eliminated, even though in my opinion Germany could have been a team that deserved to be in the final if they weren't so quick to face Spain. Even comparing England with teams that are considered mediocre, I don't think their game is any better.
I have to agree with what you said, in terms of game Germany or France are better than England. Spain was actually not the team most favored to win the trophy at first, but slowly they managed to impress, eliminating other strong candidates such as Germany and France. In fact, England does have better squad depth, but Gareth Southgate strategy is considered ineffective in reducing Spain's aggressive play. In my opinion, Gareth Southgate must update his strategy in the future, if he still retains his position. Spain managed to win the Euro trophy for the 4th time in history, and they really deserved it.
Spain won the trophy not only because they were the better side than England but because they came fully prepared and wasn't in any kind of presure in that game, yes they weren't the best team at the beginning when you compare the other teams that went home, But the Spainsh team was able to scale through due to their experiences in playing such competition, and this way they were able to manage and won these big teams Germany, France and England they met which any of this teams has the capacity to have won them.

 
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July 15, 2024, 06:56:04 PM
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Oh god just let it make it to page 400 and let's forget about this!!!
The football was good but it was probably my worst choice in putting bets, I simply couldn't with the basics and stick to the favorites, I just had to improvise every single time and have a near miss in the best case or a full 0 out of 5 for the day. As much as it was bad for me I think it came worse for the bookies too, there were no real major surprises really, a few draws, maybe Italy out but looking at the ods the market got the thing pretty good.

So let's be done with it and talk about 2028!

There are many countries that will want to forget this tournament, there are those who will immediately forget it with their failures and wait for the next one. It was a memorable tournament for Spain in a good way and for England in a bad way. I think England will never win this trophy. Spain will continue to break records. They have a very good new generation and there is no limit to what they can do.
In terms of football, a lot of the games were not as expected, but some of the games were very good. I think overall it was a Euro that won't be remembered too much. From the very beginning of the tournament it was more or less clear that Spain would win. I wish we could have seen more goals in the tournament.


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July 15, 2024, 07:05:14 PM
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You are so funny  Smiley. Quite right Harry Kane is a good player that help is team to succeed in many games but when it comes to final it seems so difficult for him to win, I first noticed that when he came to Bayern Munich and played his first final game with them many were saying that Bayern Munich will lose the game which I was surprised to hear that because Bayern Munich was not bad in performance then and I was anticipating for more goals because of the the presence of the Harry Kane on how he scored goals, but to my greatest surprise they failed to win the Cup and again in Euro final they failed, but still I don't believe it's a curse, it just matter of time he will win a trophy in his football career.

I don't believe there's any curse or whatever when it comes to Harry Kane and trophies. I think he's just unlucky. Bayern were already not in great form going into the cup final against Leipzig. Harry Kane or not Bayern would have lost that final. As for the Spurs, I doubt they would have even made it as far as the UCL final if Kane hadn't been there. He was their best player that season. He and Lucas Morra.
Remember when Messi was losing final after final with Argentina, people said he was cursed and all, but he has won 3 consecutive finals with his country. If normal for a player to be so unlucky every now and then, but I know he'll win trophies with Bayern. He's a good player and that wouldn't be taken from him, his mistake is staying at Tottenham for so long, he should have left after the season they got to the UCL final.

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July 15, 2024, 07:21:14 PM
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It's beginning to seem like Harry Kane is been cursed as the most unluckiest player in football history. It will be heartbreaking for him to process each he remembers that, playing in different league finals, with no victory achieved.

Kane's mentality was really tested in this case because indeed as he got older and with the large collection of awards he got individually in the end was not able to boost a single trophy overall. Although Bayern previously won when Kane only arrived a few weeks from Tottenham but I don't think that was the achievement of the results he had so this is clearly an unfortunate for a player like Kane.

It cannot be denied that indeed he is one of the very good players even he is one of the most dominant English strikers in scoring goals but in the end until now he remains a king without a crown.
But indeed hope still exists and although he always gets a series of failures but for next season he is still playing and he must prove for the competition at the club he must be able to remove the title of king without this crown at least he must be able to lift the trophy in the Bundesliga.

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July 15, 2024, 07:30:31 PM
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Big congrats to Spain on their win!  Wink  It is totally deserved undoubtedly. Spain didn't have the best squad combination in the competition in fact. But their system was running like clockwork. They were the best looking team.

Kane is a really unlucky player. Once again he lost a chance to lift a trophy. I didn't understand why Southgate subbed him off that early also by the way. It is actually hard to understand so many things about Southgate, anyway.  Grin

The Guardian has written like the FA's next target should be to bring Jürgen Klopp for the job. However this doesn't sound realistic considering he is on a career break now. There are still other candidates out there who would be much more suitable than Southgate.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/15/england-european-championship-gareth-southgate-jurgen-klopp

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July 15, 2024, 07:34:27 PM
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N.Williams was the man of the match. While there was no goal in the first half of the match, Spain took the lead with Williams' goal at the beginning of the second half, which put England under stress. In the 73rd minute, England managed to equalize the situation after Palmer's goal and could not prevent Oyarzabal's goal just before the end of the match. Oyarzabal managed to bring the cup to his country by scoring the goal that destroyed England in the 86th minute.

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July 15, 2024, 07:34:59 PM
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Yesterday, Spain defeated England to win the UEFA Euros Championship while Argentina defeated Colombia in the final of the Copa America to clinch the trophy which means that Spain and Argentina are going to meet each in the Finalissima. It's a dream come through for Spain's young winger Lamine Yamal who had a very impressive performance in the European championship.

That game will take place in 2025 so it isn't that close. Both Messi and Yamal will resume playing in their leagues along with the other players before facing each others. There will be international games in between.
It will be an interesting match between the two nations which are the best in the world right now with the failure of France and especially Brazil.

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July 15, 2024, 07:55:29 PM
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Spain's squad may be relatively strong. However, Argentina's match strategy and players' bonding is very strong. So I don't think Argentina will lose against Spain. The match between Spain and Argentina will surely be very competitive.
Surly the match between Spain and Argentina will be very competitive, with both teams looking so strong in terms of tactics stance, squad etc. Some people are just thinking about that Argentina has a good player so they will be the winners. It's true that they have good players in their squads, but you have to know that Spain also has good players in their squads. Besides that both teams have played the final and won it but you need to understand that Argentina beat a minor team like Colombia. While on the other side Spain defeated a big team, i.e., England. So using this point as evidence I can confidently say that the match will be very competitive because both sides have good players as well as experience in the final. Because both are champions of their own league, i.e Spain has become the champion of the Euro Cup and Argentina has become the champion of the Copa America.  
 
But anyway let's see what happens next in the final and who will be the winner 
Argentina or Espana
I would go for Spain because in every aspect, they are looking strong.

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July 15, 2024, 08:02:41 PM
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N.Williams was the man of the match. While there was no goal in the first half of the match, Spain took the lead with Williams' goal at the beginning of the second half, which put England under stress. In the 73rd minute, England managed to equalize the situation after Palmer's goal and could not prevent Oyarzabal's goal just before the end of the match. Oyarzabal managed to bring the cup to his country by scoring the goal that destroyed England in the 86th minute.

Spain's players performed well throughout the match. Basically the match was dominated by the players of Spain. Almost every player in Spain has performed well in his position. Especially Williams and Yamal Spain's two young players performed well in this match.

Apart from Yamal and Williams, Spain's two defenders Laporte and Cucurella also performed well in this match. These two defenders caused England to miss scoring opportunities despite several strong attacks. However, Spain's players performed well throughout the match. And they are a worthy team to be Euro champions.

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This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

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July 15, 2024, 08:46:51 PM
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Hopefully this is Southgate last Euro, because it's time for England to try another coach and all the England staff have to be replaced. Southgate was so tactically poor that the luxury players had to bow in the final. Cole Palmer goal was in vain, Southgate should have included him as a starter. Palmer had too little playing time to maximize his time. Overall I and several other gamblers didn't seem surprised when betting on Spain winning early on. We watched together but felt dissatisfied because England did not provide fierce resistance.

Yeah maybe that's a fact, we all saw this match and Spain dominated from all sides even though we know England has a good squad but unable to compete with Spain. Southgate prefers Harry Kane as the main player in the lineup and this strategy has been successful in the last few matches, but Southgate forgot that this was the final match and their opponents already know how to anticipate Harry Kane in the defensive area so he couldn't move any further.

On the other hand, Spain played well and they have a great mentality. We know that before reaching the final, Spain had beaten several strong teams so that when they faced England in the final they had no problems, overall Spain should be appreciated for their consistent performance throughout the tournament.
Spain deserve this title for their performance even since the beginning of the tournament, winning against the bigger teams. I think Southgate should be dropped as the England coach it would have better if he had at least starts with Watkins especially after his late minutes goal Netherlands that took them to the final, I wonder what Southgate was thinking putting him in the later on, definitely Spain would not give him that same opportunity he got against Netherlands, this is the final the Spain already thought of a neutralizing effect on this before the game.
Kane continues with the curse of being trophyless, sigh.

 
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Yesterday, Spain defeated England to win the UEFA Euros Championship while Argentina defeated Colombia in the final of the Copa America to clinch the trophy which means that Spain and Argentina are going to meet each in the Finalissima. It's a dream come through for Spain's young winger Lamine Yamal who had a very impressive performance in the European championship. Lamine Yamal who was once bathed by Lionel Messi when he was few months old will have the opportunity to play against his football idol. Whoever wins that game and trophy I don't think will mean much to Lamine Yamal because his most important interest is to play against and that dream have finally come to pass for the talented footballer.

Lamine Yamal really showed an impressive performance throughout the UEFA EURO 2024 and that earned him the best young player award as he is just 17 years of age and it will be a pleasure for the young talented Spanish footballer to meet and play in same space with Lionel Messi in the Finalissima since Argentina won the Copa America and Spain won the UEFA EURO competition.

Lamine Yamal looks very promising and hardworking and if he continues in this awesome performance then he's gonna do exploits at Barcelona just like Lionel Messi did. But he should not allow any form of distraction to come his way now that he is getting in the limelight of international football. Lionel Messi also started doing great jobs at a very young age and he continued and experienced huge success in his football career so if Lamine Yamal should be more focused and determined to improve his career and take it to greater heights.

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July 15, 2024, 09:08:56 PM
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Spain's players performed well throughout the match. Basically the match was dominated by the players of Spain. Almost every player in Spain has performed well in his position. Especially Williams and Yamal Spain's two young players performed well in this match.

Apart from Yamal and Williams, Spain's two defenders Laporte and Cucurella also performed well in this match. These two defenders caused England to miss scoring opportunities despite several strong attacks. However, Spain's players performed well throughout the match. And they are a worthy team to be Euro champions.
Yes that's right. Overall, from the group phase to the final, Spain deserved to be champions. Because they played very well, attractively and dominantly throughout the Euro Cup competition. Actually they don't have players who are too dominant, but they play very solidly and the coach is very good at using the existing players, especially young players like Yamal and Williams.

You could say that Spain today is very different from Spain when it won the Euros and World Cup several years ago. The Spanish squad is currently filled with players from various clubs, not just Real Madrid or Barcelona but this is truly Spain which has a very different feel with interesting and entertaining games. So they deserved to win the Euros.

For England, they were not able to take advantage of the momentum well. Even though Palmer's goal could have been momentum for England to get up and score the next goal. However, England often made mistakes in passing and lost duels in the midfield. Another mistake was that Foden was only replaced in the 88th minute, he should have been replaced earlier. England's failure seems to confirm that Harry Kane's curse continues.

 
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