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November 18, 2022, 04:08:24 AM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
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November 18, 2022, 04:51:14 AM
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Two interesting stories I would say, but they are funny. Both shows how people change so fast.

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
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The man shouldn't have stolen the $10,000 USD in the first place. He has gambling problems and he needs help. His girlfriend has the right to demand the money. It was because of her he was able to win the jackpot. She wasn't asking much though. He can still live a luxurious life for the rest of his life. Would say pay the $40 million and move on. Avoid all the problems and issue, and enjoy your life.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Not sure why everyone was siding with the boss. He was gambling with his own money. Everything he won, is his. He should have quit the training and started something with all the money he won. Would be making more I bet.

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November 18, 2022, 04:53:23 AM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

Yes, with regard to the first case, if it had been me winning such a large amount, I would have given my girlfriend considerably more, and I think that if the girlfriend takes him to court she will get considerably more than that 10,000. The story says a lot about the guy, first he steals and then he just gives her back what he stole when he has 10 million.

As for the second story, there's no way I'd give my boss that amount, which I can see is about 18,000 dollars. I'd better keep the 36,000 for myself and find another job. I doubt it's even real, the source being a tweet.

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November 18, 2022, 11:49:25 AM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.

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November 19, 2022, 03:44:43 PM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
It should be, but it's different because the girl didn't file a police report about her boyfriend stealing her money and maybe she didn't because seeing the profit she would get from what the guy won, people can change a lot when it comes to money moreover if the value is fantastic or at least it can change life.
After stealing the money, the girl could have informed the police if she wanted but she didn't do that. Here She shows her emotions towards his friend. But the behavior of that friend was not good to me, if he had given half of the percentage of the money, I would have considered him as a honest, but the behavior of that friend is completely different, he can never be a good person. After all it is true that a gambler's life has changed by the winning.

They both did things wrong, both he and she, but the story would have been different if he had lost instead of winning, things were not so good for both of them, well on the one hand it is very bad that he took that money without consent, why, in the event of losing it, how would you have paid for it? this is something that should be considered, and getting $10k is not easy at all, that has to involve a lot of effort and hard work, earning that money means that she has to sacrifice a lot of things and that all the profits go directly to her, and that It's something that sticks, that's what you have to see, even though that didn't happen.

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November 19, 2022, 03:56:24 PM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.
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November 19, 2022, 05:03:31 PM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.
Usually people want to spend a lot of money if he win the big amount from betting but in this story the character of that man is different. The man has done two wrong things one is set a bet with stolen money and on the other hand it refused to pay the original owner. But it would have been great story if the person had lost the stolen money. However, a relationship with such a character is more likely to cause harm than good. They should always be avoided.

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November 21, 2022, 01:17:32 AM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.

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November 21, 2022, 03:39:15 AM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.

Money indeed could either bring the best or worst in someone.

It just depends on the person himself on how he would let the money affect his attitude and behavior to the people surrounding him. For an instance, if a man won a lottery, he could either be humble or be boastful depending on his upbringing and his perception in general. Some people tend to be a giver when they have money. While some people tend to be greedy when they have money. It's a matter of morals actually.

Money can do so many things as well. It's really a tool a people can use to improve himself and do good things or the other way around.
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November 25, 2022, 01:44:55 AM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Correct, it is troubling how some people think that having a lot of money is somewhat wrong, as long as you earned your money in a legitimate way then there is nothing wrong with having that money.

The only thing money does is to help you show who you truly are, if you are a bad person then you will use your money to do bad tings, but if you are a good person then that money will help you to do way more things for others than what you could do on your own without money.

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November 25, 2022, 04:31:39 AM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Money is a neutral thing that does not side with the bad or the good and depends on how we use it.
If we use it for gambling, it will not guarantee us to make money from gambling and if we use the money for trading, there is a possibility that we can make money or profit.
So it all depends on what we do with the money and many people get greedy when it comes to money.
And in that case, the girl could have immediately left her boyfriend even though she only got the stolen money.

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1. My first question to the Girlfriend is will she had splitted the money had the guy lost?
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Wait what are you talking about? Guy literally stole her money from his girlfriend, so obviously he could have lost them.
It's wasn't a loan. And he should give him ALL the winnings from it back to his "girlfriend".

If you for example have robbed a bank and use the money it to buy some lottery tickets, you have committed at least 2 crimes: robbery and buying those tickets fraudulently.
If you after that tried to go back to the bank and pay what you owe, not only you would go to jail, you would have to pay fines and government would confiscate all the profits you got from your gambling spree.

Obviously you are obligated to give the profits to the one you robbed, or if you don't want to do that government will be happy to confiscate everything and let you pay the fine for your girlfriend. And she didn't even want it all.

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November 26, 2022, 05:30:13 PM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Correct, it is troubling how some people think that having a lot of money is somewhat wrong, as long as you earned your money in a legitimate way then there is nothing wrong with having that money.

The only thing money does is to help you show who you truly are, if you are a bad person then you will use your money to do bad tings, but if you are a good person then that money will help you to do way more things for others than what you could do on your own without money.

There's a saying that money is the root of all evil and in this case, it is really evident that both the boyfriend and girlfriend showed their true colors after knowing the fact that they had more money to spend. The boyfriend just wants to keep the money by himself because he was the one who earned it but and ignored the fact that he won't be in that situation if it is not because of his girlfriend's money. While the girlfriend can't also hide his true colors for demanding a humungous amount after she learned about the money.

I cannot really imagine that they are both in love with each other until that day came to their life and messed things up because of their true colors.
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There's a saying that money is the root of all evil and in this case, it is really evident that both the boyfriend and girlfriend showed their true colors after knowing the fact that they had more money to spend. The boyfriend just wants to keep the money by himself because he was the one who earned it but and ignored the fact that he won't be in that situation if it is not because of his girlfriend's money. While the girlfriend can't also hide his true colors for demanding a humungous amount after she learned about the money.

I cannot really imagine that they are both in love with each other until that day came to their life and messed things up because of their true colors.
That saying isn't true at all times because there are also people who became evil or can do crimes for other reasons like for example if they love someone else. All of us need a money because it's being used to purchase the thing that we need daily. We shouldn't think negatively about it or overthink about the bad things that can happen later on as it can only make us paranoid.

In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

It's not about the amount given that matters here most but the non challant attitude of giving back in compensation and also appreciation for the opportunity that comes through the money stolen that turns a big win, as a gambler we must learn to caution ourselves, act promptly and accurately, we don't beed to be informed about some behaviors before doing or not doing them as a mature and responsible gambler.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.

In that his cade i think the apprentice is an underaged gambler probably or a timid type that easily got scared by mere words, in other way he may be a newbie as well to gambling to be placed with such a unique lifetime opportunity, another thing is that maybe he has already announced himself about the game to his boss before and after winning which should teach many the lesson on privacy in gambling.
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November 27, 2022, 07:37:20 PM
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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.

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November 27, 2022, 08:06:38 PM
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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.
Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
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November 27, 2022, 08:12:49 PM
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In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
Someone that stole his girlfriend money, he may not be responsible at all and may not even like the girl and decide to just run away and never give the girl anything than the money stolen, or very little amount in addition to the money stolen. But if not to be biased, the guy should at least give the girl an amount that is enough for the girl to appreciate.

Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
What if the court only said that only money that was stolen and the one used for court expenses should be paid and nothing more? In court case, we can not just conclude that one person would win without consulting lawyer to know what could be the possible outcome, while lawyer may not even be favored by the judge.

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November 27, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
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They both did things wrong, both he and she, but the story would have been different if he had lost instead of winning, things were not so good for both of them, well on the one hand it is very bad that he took that money without consent, why, in the event of losing it, how would you have paid for it? this is something that should be considered, and getting $10k is not easy at all, that has to involve a lot of effort and hard work, earning that money means that she has to sacrifice a lot of things and that all the profits go directly to her, and that It's something that sticks, that's what you have to see, even though that didn't happen.


Nope, the girl don't do anything wrong.  He is just claiming the money that is supposed to be hers in the first place.  The one at fault here is the guy.  He steals the girls money.  Then when he won, he get selfish and wanted to keep most of the money by himself.  As far as I understand, the girl has the legal right to own all the money because it was his money that the guy used.  Now the guy is getting people's sentiment by saying he don't want to lose his girlfriend but at the same time does not want to give half of the winnings to the girl.  I think that don't want to lose his girlfriend line is bull****.   If he wants to keep his girl, give her what she demands, and the case would be finished.


In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
Someone that stole his girlfriend money, he may not be responsible at all and may not even like the girl and decide to just run away and never give the girl anything than the money stolen, or very little amount in addition to the money stolen. But if not to be biased, the guy should at least give the girl an amount that is enough for the girl to appreciate.

That should be but the guy gets greedy.  If the case came to court, there is a huge chance that the girl will win the case.

Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
What if the court only said that only money that was stolen and the one used for court expenses should be paid and nothing more? In court case, we can not just conclude that one person would win without consulting lawyer to know what could be the possible outcome, while lawyer may not even be favored by the judge.

That is a what-if, but the logic of the guy should have not won the money if the guy doesn't steal the girl's money is a stronger argument.  Besides, the guy would have not won the amount if he has no money to bet at all.  So it is a matter of where thus the fund came from.  More or less the best decision here would be a split but I am leaning toward the possibility of the girl getting all the money.


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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.
Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
The same can be seen in this way. If the money haven't been stolen, it could've been the same amount. She never think of anything. Just because he have made good return out of the stolen money, claiming it as her money is not fair.

In the second story, the employee is powerless a the boss is making use of his power. This happens everywhere and it is quite rare to experience such a kind of story.

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