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October 20, 2022, 04:49:25 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


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October 20, 2022, 05:09:07 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here
we don't have judge or deliberate this in favour of the girlfriend, in my own suggestion, if the money collected to gamble was on agreement or the boyfriend inform his girlfriend that the purpose of taking the money is for gambling, I'm of the opinion or in support that the boy should give the girl forty million but if the girl, she not aware that the money not going to use for gambling bet, whatever the boy feels to give her in addition with the 10k, because the money was like collected in the name of lend.


Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
I don't think that all this stories are not real, because the bet is obvious that the money belong to the apprentice, because the betting don't have anything to do with the Boss as you said. If I'm the apprentice what that will come to my mind is to establish something without letting anyone know that i won bet
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October 20, 2022, 05:15:37 PM
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He stole from his girlfriend, he should at least give her an amount of money that is worth it, given her back just 10000 naira does not worth it at all. Giving her 1 to 5 million naira is not a bad idea.

About the boss, I will not answer. What kind of apprentice? If he loses the money, will the boss give him anything in return? I will never give the boss anything but just little amount if I appreciate him as a boss.

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October 20, 2022, 05:26:30 PM
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1. My first question to the Girlfriend is will she had splitted the money had the guy lost? Although it was stingy act by the guy to gave her only 10k even its now his right to add more to the money or not since he took the risk alone. If it was me like 10 million will be going to her because I know she will still come for mine even if I gave her more so I will just use the rest I have on my to give to buy stuffs for her.

2. Its actually a self centered attitude by the boss, he played no role in the bets nor was the apprenticeship any way related to winning that bet so any money giving to the boss by the apprentice was just a gift and nothing more attach to it. Personally I will be gifting the boss 3 million of that amount

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October 20, 2022, 05:27:42 PM
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He stole from his girlfriend, he should at least give her an amount of money that is worth it, given her back just 10000 naira does not worth it at all. Giving her 1 to 5 million naira is not a bad idea.


I think we should consider the other side of the story had it been he lost in the bet, I believe he gave her back the same amount that he stole simply because his girlfriend is not worth giving more than that. May be before he won the gamble she has said a lot of bad things to him thinking that he was going to lose and pay her back the amount that he stole or her attitude towards him when she realised that her boyfriend is a gambler has not been fare, probably there must be something that is not clear in the story of OP.

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October 20, 2022, 05:40:19 PM
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Well from me if I stole my girlfriend money and she's not aware of what I used it to do then it is better for not to talk much but rather plan well with her and make a good business for her although is dependent on how serious our relationship is before I could go that extent otherwise, I will give her 10 percent of total money won from the gambling site. Then talking of an apprentice well I won't split my money because it wasn't from my boss or do I stole from him to make my bet, but what I will do is to help him with at least little percentage from the total amount won rather share my money into two, I might decide to leave the work and an enroll myself elsewhere if he didn't accepted what I gave him as an offer from my mind besides who will open to him I win such amount of money. I do care about my security coupled with the compromised system in Nigeria lack of insecurity etc. So it would be better for me to remain silent.

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October 20, 2022, 05:55:40 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

In the first story, he should give that money to her girlfriend, without her he wouldn't win those 100 millions and move from 100 down to 60 doesn't make him less millionaire. For me the request from the girl is a fair deal. But the cheap way is to cut that relation and get a new gold digger.

On the second story, even if he was an apprentice he doesn't owe anything to his boss, this was the apprentice win and he deserve to keep the full prize.

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October 20, 2022, 06:05:59 PM
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1st, the man didn't have to give his gf more than what he owed her. She's being greedy and if the man gives her something then be thankful for it. The gf would probably even bar her bf on betting on normal days, and would only allow it to happen if he wins anything.

2nd, the boss is just a vile mofo that wants to get everything in his plate. Prolly should just be the devil and ignored everyone honestly. Go somewhere far and be done with all the shit they are throwing him.

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October 20, 2022, 06:12:16 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Honestly half.  He stole it it's not like he borrowed it.  Likely to say he would have never paid her back.  If we are talking usd here what's the difference between 100mil and 50mil when you never had even close to that.  He shoukd just be thankful she doesn't report him to the police lol.  Take half and run!

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October 20, 2022, 06:21:46 PM
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Most at times is good not to be greedy, we can decide to share with girlfriend or not okay what if the money was lost for placing a bet wouldn't I pay her back her 10k?
Yes I will but since the game played and she's now demanding for the money to be shared among our two from all indications it's a self Will to give or not same thing happened to the boss who is as well demanding to share the money 50/50 which I don't somuch buy that ideas, she should leave or look for elsewhere to continue his training because his life might be at stake thinking how Nigerian bosses do treat their apprentice.
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

The girl deserves more but she has no right to dictate how much she should be given. The boyfriend should acknowledge that without her money he wouldn't have had the means to place the bet. And if he had lost the money, the girl would have been affected negatively. Maybe 5 million dollars wouldn't be a bad idea because no bank would give her such interest.

For the second story, if I was the apprentice nobody would force me to split the money in half. He is my boss on the job and cannot control my finance. I would have to give him willing and not forcefully. If he is insisting that he must dictate how much he must get, I don't think he is not the only one that can teach the skills I am learning. If I am very interested in acquiring the skills, I would go to another person to gain them. 


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October 20, 2022, 06:59:22 PM
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Well i will put myself in both stories as i was the two men who won the those huge bets. First man if i stole my girlfriend’s money  (which i don’t have  Cry  )  and won 100M i will surely split the money with her and apologize to her that i stole the money, it’s big money so enough for both of us to live a luxury life without the need of fighting each other’s because i want to take the whole prize
Second man even that I’m an apprentice to that boss and won 16M i wouldn’t share a penny with him because it’s my right and he is not involved in it no matter what people said i wouldn’t care, I’m sure no boss will share a big prize with his apprentices
And also thank you for sharing these interesting stories

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October 20, 2022, 06:59:47 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Honestly half.  He stole it it's not like he borrowed it.  Likely to say he would have never paid her back.  If we are talking usd here what's the difference between 100mil and 50mil when you never had even close to that.  He shoukd just be thankful she doesn't report him to the police lol.  Take half and run!

Yea the most important word in the headline is STOLE, technically she is entitled to
all of it! but it was him who placed the bet, if he didn't the money wouldn't have been won
so yea the fair outcome would be 50/50. I wonder what a court would rule on it?

Would the man be punished?
if he had lost the bet he most certainly would be!

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October 20, 2022, 08:07:02 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



One million sounds like a lot, but in this context we're talking about the Nigerian Naira which has an exchange rate of 436 to 1 US dollar according to Google. Still some sizable sums involved and no doubt these amounts would go much further in Nigeria, but in the global context in a place like Europe 16 million is about 37,000 euros - maybe 1.5x the average salary. Large but not necessarily life changing amounts and it sounds like in the first story the girlfriend found out her man is not really decent after all, I guess she is one of the lucky few who at least got her money back in such a situation as most would have lost it all. Unless we're talking about half a million Euros (or equivalent sum in local currency) then you might be better off keeping your profession and just buying a nice house to use.

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October 20, 2022, 08:24:56 PM
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For the first story, what would she have done if he hadn't made the 100 million? Probably she would complain to police. But if she hadn't that money he couldn't able to win that 100 million. I could've accept that girl's request, because she was the one who made it happen with her money.

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For second story, I wouldn't obey to boss. For gambler they need strategy but more than it, they need luck so boss didn't teach him how to be lucky Smiley His money;,his winning and his middle finger to greedy boss Cheesy
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October 20, 2022, 08:30:23 PM
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A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

What if the man loses that 10k that he had stolen to his girlfriend? What do you think will be the reaction of the girl? will they split up or will the man pay back the money that he had stolen?

And it just so happen that he won, so I think there is more than the story than just the money, just saying.

It was just a girlfriend and not a wife, what if the girl suddenly split up with the man after getting that 40 million dollars?

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October 20, 2022, 08:34:11 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


First, i would definitely leave my girlfriend and solo out those winnings.40 million is just too much for a demand.
Second, leave your boss and dont ever cameback.You do have the money, you could find another job with those money you had won.

Never make yourself that too low ground just because you arent on the position and not on just being too greedy but its true that
it is really just too much on what they are asking since you are the ones who do make out that bet.

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October 20, 2022, 08:45:17 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
My opinion 40M also makes sense, because it's his girlfriend's money, without that money he would not be able to win.
For second story, he shouldn't agree. If I in that position, I would to leave. Split the money in my heart certainly will not be satisfied because it is a large, for me 10% winnings from gambling, I'd better share it for all people in that's company not for boss only.

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October 20, 2022, 08:47:14 PM
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A story to end without being a problem.

Never tell anyone ~XD why do they need to tell anyone win a lot money from gambling. why not just keep silence? example like girlfriend case, he can said borrow money for some case because the take the money without telling him.

That's would be a different scenario, If he said for gambling at the time he take the money.

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October 20, 2022, 08:58:29 PM
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Most at times is good not to be greedy, we can decide to share with girlfriend or not okay what if the money was lost for placing a bet wouldn't I pay her back her 10k?
Yes I will but since the game played and she's now demanding for the money to be shared among our two from all indications it's a self Will to give or not same thing happened to the boss who is as well demanding to share the money 50/50 which I don't somuch buy that ideas, she should leave or look for elsewhere to continue his training because his life might be at stake thinking how Nigerian bosses do treat their apprentice.
I called the story a mere story, because without the boy telling her girlfriend that he has won such amount of money he would have not known that such amount of money is involved, and if actually the money was lost, it very clear that the boy will refunds the money as per say. The aspect of boss side, i will say why the apprentice will share the money equal to its boss it might be as results of ignorant, because the Boss don't have anything to do with the money, the bet money is strictly meant for the apprentice without anyone.
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October 20, 2022, 09:08:08 PM
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A story to end without being a problem.

Never tell anyone ~XD why do they need to tell anyone win a lot money from gambling. why not just keep silence? example like girlfriend case, he can said borrow money for some case because the take the money without telling him.

That's would be a different scenario, If he said for gambling at the time he take the money.
But sometimes it cant really be avoided for you to be transparent and honest on your loved ones but winning a lots of money then i would definitely do the same.
Never ever tell that you had won soo much money and just simply give back that 10k of your GF then be silent that you had that much money.
Unless if its been known because its been broadcasted or been told by other people but as long they couldnt able to prove it out then dont
accept nor tell the truth that you had won that big.  Grin


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October 20, 2022, 09:15:48 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
First, it’s my girlfriend so most probably I will also share some money with her. There’s a saying that, you can know more people if you talk about money and with that if you become more greed more likely your true personality will come out.
Second, if there’s no rulings to share your profit with your boss then why force me to split it into 50-50? I can also share some money but I’ll be the one to decide on how much I will give to him and my boss should respect it.
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
First, it’s my girlfriend so most probably I will also share some money with her. There’s a saying that, you can know more people if you talk about money and with that if you become more greed more likely your true personality will come out.
Second, if there’s no rulings to share your profit with your boss then why force me to split it into 50-50? I can also share some money but I’ll be the one to decide on how much I will give to him and my boss should respect it.
Human beings are naturally greedy but there are people who are really good on surpressing those greed and would stick out into their principle.If you do love someone then you wont really be letting that money will
be destroying  your relationship of your loved ones but be prepared that having lots of money could really affect on how you do both live since you do have the money you can spend up.
If you dont able to steal up your gfs money then you cant really have that winning on the first place.So its really just a mutual benefit.
Second, there's no such law or even just thinking the ethical way on doing so on splitting out winnings on your boss.He might be the ones giving out the job but doesnt mean
that everything you are owning will really be split up.Its just that bullshit kind of superiority.
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October 20, 2022, 09:25:08 PM
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A story to end without being a problem.

Never tell anyone ~XD why do they need to tell anyone win a lot money from gambling. why not just keep silence? example like girlfriend case, he can said borrow money for some case because the take the money without telling him.

That's would be a different scenario, If he said for gambling at the time he take the money.
This is why many still value anonymity because they don’t want to be on this situation and they want to be more secure from time to time.
Personally, I made a mistake of getting the money without a permission to my girlfriend and as a respect, I will share some profit to her to at least thank her for that money and no reason to breakup with her. Second, your boss might pressure you with that money but you should stand still and make a decision for your own, he might be the one teaching you about gambling but still, you make that money out of your luck and that’s already your own decision either to give or not.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Never mix affairs and love Wink
of course I think that if the guy robbed money to the girlfriend... she is not the love of her life. Did you will stole money from your girlfriend? Come on....
It's a nice amount of money, probably he will search for another girl Wink

Second story, if you have a such idiot as boss, just change work and go for another place. More or less , just matter of time he will made some disaster or another shitty request, better anticipate times.



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October 20, 2022, 09:45:58 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


On my case, if his girl friend demands for it, give less; if she did not give more than what he borrowed. Asking for more has a different meaning which could be related to greed. When it comes to his boss, why would he be required to split it? Did that boss contribute for his capital that he used to gamble? If no help was made, I guess his boss is not entitled for that half, much more if he's just using his position.

We are talking about gambling here. There are tendencies of losing, and if that happened rather than winnings, will these people be the same? Possibility is that, they might not.

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October 20, 2022, 09:53:53 PM
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In the first story she have got the right to ask for 40m, but it is upto the boyfriend whether to share the winning amount with her or not. He have used her money, and if he hadn't won she could've demanded for the 10k. So, the decision making is with the boyfriend.

In the second story the Boss have no rights to request the apprentice to share it 50-50. In that situation I'll just ignore and move away. There is no rule, being an apprentice one should be under the control of the boss in his all activities.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

That man in story 1 should at least give something more after paying the 10k he stole from his gf as a common courtesy to pay the hassle for using and stealing the money that ain't from him. No matter what the issue with the girl he should have added some bonus or something even if we don't know the whole story.

This story seems like there's an abuse of position/power and if I were the apprentice I would leave the boss after winning that much of a money. But we don't really know what was the full story since it would depend my decision whether I'll give something to the boss but not what he asked, unless if I have a debt that needed to pay I would gladly pay all of it.

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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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I don't think anybody should force the man to give his girlfriend 40 million dollars, the man should decide any amount he wants to give her, let's just be honest here, am sure if the man lose the 10k in gambling, the girlfriend won't really take it likely with him, she will definitely request for her 10k back which am sure she will force the man to pay back. So since the man won 100 million dollars then he can decide to return just 10k to her back, they didn't sign any agreement that if the boyfriend wins their is certain percentage he will give her and if the guy lose the 10k he won't return all the 10k their is certain amount he will return, so any amount the man gives his girlfriend then he is right.
Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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Am sure the apprentice will have been gambling for long term which he will definitely have been losing, did his boss share the amount he lose with him? They shouldn't force the boy to share the money with his boss equally, the only thing I think the boss should do is to seek for assistance then the boy can give him any amount he wish to give but they shouldn't make it mandatory for the guy to share the money 50-50. When the boy was struggling nobody knows, after winning that's when the boss want to share the money with him.
First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
The boy might decide to give his girlfriend, maybe the girl have struggled with the boy nobody knows, so I think the way he will spend the money should be left to him, Nobody should control him.
If am the boy I won't split the money I will rather abandon the training, I can learn the work from other people, I won't split the money, anything that makes me split the money then that's cheating, nobody should pressurize the boy to split the money with his boss.

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October 20, 2022, 09:58:59 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
1. Should be none, they need to marry to enjoy that fruit of a success rather than demanding it. I get the demand for the woman and the man was wrong either considering it's not his money in the first place maybe a 50-50 is good right here.

2. There will be different factors in this story like grave coercion or something like that is at play in here, that's my guess. I would be happy to abandon that training and live the life with those winnings.
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Never mix affairs and love Wink
of course I think that if the guy robbed money to the girlfriend... she is not the love of her life. Did you will stole money from your girlfriend? Come on....
It's a nice amount of money, probably he will search for another girl Wink

Second story, if you have a such idiot as boss, just change work and go for another place. More or less , just matter of time he will made some disaster or another shitty request, better anticipate times.



But with human beings greediness then you cant really be that surprised that there would be sudden changes on behavior. Cheesy Doesnt matter if you do love a person where it could really be change on point
when you do talk about money.Im not generalizing but people are way different when it comes to big sums or life changing amounts where they can dump everything that they do currently have
as long they would really be cherishing out that money that they had won.They wont really be minding about career or love as long they do have the money then
they could have everything but well it does depend on a certain individual.

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October 20, 2022, 10:10:50 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
First, it’s my girlfriend so most probably I will also share some money with her. There’s a saying that, you can know more people if you talk about money and with that if you become more greed more likely your true personality will come out.
Second, if there’s no rulings to share your profit with your boss then why force me to split it into 50-50? I can also share some money but I’ll be the one to decide on how much I will give to him and my boss should respect it.

if you do love that person, you won't only return 10k but give more. remember, you stole the money just to bet. that's not really fair if you are in a relationship. so better give her what she deserved.
but for the second one, if the boss insists 50-50, ok give it to him. but don't continue working with him. you can already see his attitude when it comes to money matters. do you think he will be a good boss to you?

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October 20, 2022, 10:16:40 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Lol, this story is like choosing his babe (that is the term that the article used) over money. So it's going to be difficult not just for the man but for anyone who have been in this position before. I guess for me, I will give the money to the girl or then marry here.

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An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

I'm not sure about this story though, why would he oblige to share half of the money to his boss?

Just quit the job and get your money simply as that. It will be stupid idea to give it to the demand of 50/50, unless he is being threatened by his boss to be murdered or killed (we don't know that extend of what people will do for money).

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
^ For the first question, this is how you will measure if your girlfriend truly loves you, because if she demands that big amount instead of waiting how much amount you will replace? It seems there is no relationship between both them if the girl demands that big amount instead the amount that you stole from here. On my side, I will split the money on a 50/50 and take her on the date, just a money dude, if she is worth it to fight against the money, then go for it.
For the second question, it depends on the situation, if there is another place to apprentice,  I will refuse my boss and find another place to apprentice. It was my money, he was just only your boss and nothing else but there are no options, I rather do what he said and split the money until you will finish your apprentice which is very important for your future job and you will earn more than what you have won today.
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October 20, 2022, 11:16:11 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

Their relationship is a pure sh*t and they shouldn't be lived together.

First of all, there should be no stealing. For let's say the man just does it for a "good" purpose then why does he only give his girlfriend 10,000 instead of sharing the money won together "if they really loved each other"?

Second, why there's a thing that the girlfriend is demanding 40 Million dollars? I don't see a valid reason that it will end up like that again, "if they really loved each other?"

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

The story is not complete. I'm curious about why it went up on the concern that the boss should also take part in the pie.

If the money was completely owned by the apprentice, he has full control of it and should not be obliged to give some to his boss.

These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

It seems to me that these stories are not interesting but maybe just a product of imagination.

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Some Peeps are just very rude and greedy in their actions. If he took some money from his girlfriend and placed a bet, then a bigger amount was realized, why didn't he simply cut a reasonable share to her? Most especially if the girl came to realise that the money was missing wherever she kept it and you told her everything.... it'll be fine if she didn't even have an idea but, will still be unfair. That'll make her know how much the guy loves her. I'm not saying that it should rather be a 50-50 stuff because, if the guy had Lost those funds to a wrong bet, the girl wouldn't have a consideration.

About the apprentice and the boss -- except the boy took his money to do whatever fetched out the cash, I don't think he has any forceful share. It should be something the boy decides wether or not to give.

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October 20, 2022, 11:55:38 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

All I can say is that their relationship was ruined by money. Money is really the root of evil. If they just show deeply in love for each other, there should be no problem even if big money is involved.

Their relationship won't be saved now.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

That's not making sense. The boss shouldn't have any part of the winnings but for gratitude, the apprentice can give some money to his boss. I really don't like the word used here as an apprentice.

It's like the boss owned that guy as a whole.

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October 20, 2022, 11:58:39 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
They're not tied yet, a simple treat would do the thing and it depends on the attitude of the woman. I'd personally give her some meals out with an extravagant restaurant and that would do her share.

As for the apprentice, how come the boss wants to split the money if it's the apprentice's money that has been bet and it's his personal choice. If the boss insists, I'll leave him as the amount is quite big enough and I'll just find another job to work for without asking for the split of my own money.
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October 20, 2022, 11:59:29 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.

Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

I don't get why the apprentice should be pressured. It's like the apprentice owes everything to the boss. I read the Twitter link but we need more information about it. Never it will lead up that the boss should also be given the money without a good reason.
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October 21, 2022, 01:53:11 AM
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1. My first question to the Girlfriend is will she had splitted the money had the guy lost? Although it was stingy act by the guy to gave her only 10k even its now his right to add more to the money or not since he took the risk alone. If it was me like 10 million will be going to her because I know she will still come for mine even if I gave her more so I will just use the rest I have on my to give to buy stuffs for her.
But he did not took a risk at all since it was not his money but the money belonged to his girlfriend, the girlfriend was the one taking the risk alone and she did not even knew that was the case, in my opinion there is a case to be argued that all the money belongs to her and not the boyfriend, it would be different if they had come to an agreement to make the bet and in that case I think a 50/50 split will be more fair, but since that is not the case everything should belong to the girlfriend.


2. Its actually a self centered attitude by the boss, he played no role in the bets nor was the apprenticeship any way related to winning that bet so any money giving to the boss by the apprentice was just a gift and nothing more attach to it. Personally I will be gifting the boss 3 million of that amount
In the second case things are clearer as the money belonged to the apprentice, if that was me I would probably not have given the boss a single cent out of my money.

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October 21, 2022, 02:32:39 AM
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1. For me it's too little to give his girlfriend 10k for winnings that reach 100 million, maybe it would be fair to give him 40 million according to what he demanded, even though it was big but remember the money came from him.

2. The boss doesn't deserve anything, because when gambling, of course, that person gets double the pressure if he loses, so it's better to get out of the apprenticeship and enjoy the win.
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October 21, 2022, 04:07:17 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


1. His girlfriend has the right to demand an amount because he stole something from her that he later on used it for gambling purposes and eventually being lucky to win that huge prize. I don't think there's any problem with that. The only problem I can see with that side of story is that they will never gonna work again, as trust issues would be the main barricade to pursue their relationship.

2. Well, here's something most of the people don't understand why that community sided with the boss. I've made a quick search about that specific apprenticeship, and found out that Alaba is a huge electronic market in Nigeria. Bosses were the one who pays most of the apprentice's expenses such as food, lodging, etc for them to do their job well and become successful eventually.
So, in this story, the boss might've taught the apprentice used his money to gamble, and that what made me understand where the boss is coming from.

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October 21, 2022, 07:20:11 AM
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The win you get because it starts from your boyfriend's money that you stole, and your girlfriend deserves a share of your winnings. And I think 40 million for your boyfriend out of the 100 million wins you got I think he deserves it maybe if it weren't for your girlfriend money you wouldn't have gotten that big of a win though maybe because it was a lucky day and you worked hard to get it too, still your boyfriend's money plays a part in all of that.

Is there such a boss, and he does not deserve it. Because the victory is obtained from your own capital and hard work without the intervention of the boss and if you want to share the victory, just buy something for him with the reason to want to share. And if your boss still wants to get some of your winnings, you better quit your apprenticeship and look elsewhere and also enjoy your wins wisely.

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October 21, 2022, 07:31:19 AM
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I have no opinion for the first story as it is a personal matter and the guy stole the money so I never agree with stealing despite that because of this stealing he won 100 million.

For the second though I have one and it is that the boss does not deserve anything as the money that the guy bet was his own,he should not have told them or maybe if they knew because it was made public they surely do not deserve 50% of the winnings,that is a plain wrong movement I see in this story.If I won that big amount and my boss asked me,of course I would have not given him because usually the boss do not give us anything extra,he pay us as much dollars as for we to not leave the job and not a single dollar more.

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October 21, 2022, 07:40:32 AM
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For the first, maybe 50 million is a fair amount because he used his 10k and didn't say anything to his girlfriend and when he won 100 million, he only returned 10k to his girlfriend. It was natural for his girlfriend to be angry because she seemed to know that her boyfriend had won 100 million. But if his girlfriend doesn't tell him the amount of his winnings and just returns the 10k right away, maybe his girlfriend won't be mad.

Second, I will abandon my training by giving 1 million naira to my boss because the money used for the apprenticeship belongs to him. His boss should be grateful that he had the 1 million naira fully given to him and not demand to ask for half the winnings. But yeah, humans are greedy Grin

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October 21, 2022, 08:22:56 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

$1m would be a reasonable amount to give her in my opinion Because after all, it was her money with which he won a big sum of money.

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Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
I'm assuming the person has borrowed money from his boss and there would be a deal between them that if they win, they will split the money into two parts. else he will repay the boss's money. If that is the case, then surely Boss is entitled to half the money.
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I will return the amount I owe back to the girl and also God knows I don't bring what I do to air how will she even know I wish such money from gambling. If I had lost in the first place, I'll receive abusive rains all over my head.
It's a wrong thing for the lady to dictate for what she must take from the boy, but she should be happy just if he gets touched to give her more than that.
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

I read the full story on OP and if I were the man, I would just let her leave me and continue to boost my business using the amount I've won. A girlfriend like that is a red flag if you're looking for a lifetime relationship. She's just your girlfriend, you're not yet obliged to give him a portion of your winnings if she asked to. You paid what you borrowed so you have nothing to owe her anymore.


Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

If I were the apprentice, I would also do the same as the 1st story, I would abandon my training and leave that dojo. You don't owe anything financially to your boss. As long as you don't have debt to him and paid properly those training courses then you don't need to split the money. A small amount that you're willing to give that will serve as a consolation for your experience there is already enough to give to your boss.
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October 21, 2022, 10:33:15 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?




basically these two cases have a motive with the same problem. the first and second stories, are very closely related to greed.

OK, let's go over one by one.
for the first case, the most basic fault of the man is stealing. whatever the reason, like it or not, he has to share the profits with his girlfriend.  because after all, without the money he stole earlier. he will get nothing.
Worse, if he loses the gamble with the stolen money, he will most likely not return it, arguing that they have a special bond as a couple. however, it seems that in this case greed pervades the two so the relationship between them is at stake.

the second story, this case is difficult for me to conclude.
not much information that can be extracted here as a consideration or assessment for me personally.
which is part of my focus on this case, why and what motivated the boss to ask for half of the win. this could be a wild opinion, in this story, we don't have much more accurate information. however, if I consider briefly. the boss had no right to claim the luck of his apprentice.

back to the focus of the problems of the two stories.
Basically, greed pervades the minds of the people involved in this story, so that they want to claim something that doesn't belong to them.

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October 21, 2022, 11:02:06 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here
Actually the boy shouldn't be in any delima as he is to make his choice between money and his girlfriend. If he really love her then why don't he give her the 40M,to continue his relationship and moreover it was her money he used that brought him the fortune. In case he prefers money to love then let him let go of her and enjoy his 100M alone. Cool

b. This decision depends on my relationship with my boss,if he is a good man and I love working with him,I will split it up for 50-50,but if he treats me in such a way I don't like and I have been with him because I just need to learn the work and go am sorry, I will not tolerant him. I will not give him a dine and will go look for a new Boss. My money,my choice..




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October 21, 2022, 12:41:53 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
He is cruel to just return back the 10K he stole without adding any compensation for stealing. At the point where he stole it he had no idea what his girlfriend intended to use that money for. By stealing the money he has forced her to forfeit what she wanted to do for his benefit as a result of that I think she deserves more than the 10K, but at the same time the girlfriend should not demand a specific amount considering that it may sound as a sense of entitlement, but something more than 10k.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
If I have been long in the apprenticeship and I am apprenticing for something freely that could earn me good money in the future and my boss has been really nice providing my needs the while I have been there, I can consider splitting it to assist him as compensation for catering for me and accepting me as an apprentice who didn't pay him.

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October 21, 2022, 12:47:46 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
He is cruel to just return back the 10K he stole without adding any compensation for stealing. At the point where he stole it he had no idea what his girlfriend intended to use that money for. By stealing the money he has forced her to forfeit what she wanted to do for his benefit as a result of that I think she deserves more than the 10K, but at the same time the girlfriend should not demand a specific amount considering that it may sound as a sense of entitlement, but something more than 10k.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
If I have been long in the apprenticeship and I am apprenticing for something freely that could earn me good money in the future and my boss has been really nice providing my needs the while I have been there, I can consider splitting it to assist him as compensation for catering for me and accepting me as an apprentice who didn't pay him.

Stealing is stealing and the result will not justify it. He stole money from his girlfriend that that's a form of being dishonest. As for me, the girlfriend has the right to demand because that was her money and she actually deserves more. She's a victim and it will be unfair if he will just returns that 10K as if nothing happens. He seems like a user.

The boss has the authority to do that because of his position but he should still be considerate and show compassion to his apprentice. They both deserve a good win and splitting it wouldn't be a good idea.
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October 21, 2022, 01:09:32 PM
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When you are losing nobody cares about you, you cover your own losses, when you are winning everyone wants a piece of you!

I guess there's no point in talking about what would we do in a similar situation... We are all different, and in moments of shock (I believe it's shocking when you win some big amounts like the first story) we react differently. The best outcome would be for them to get married and live a happy life without worrying about money ever again if there's some true love! But how to story leads us to think this money brought some problems on the surface...

The second story is about stealing... but in reading comments from the link I see there are some "unspoken" rules between "master and apprentice"! Like in the 15th century! But who am I to judge if that is some tradition there and people there are ok with that:


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October 21, 2022, 01:34:31 PM
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In the stroy 1
I think the boyfriend was ungrateful. I mean, he was ablebto make that win or take that bet because of the girlfriends financial capability. Not like the girlfriend has a right to demand whatever, after all, there was no agreement to what ever ratio in the possibility of a win. Am very sure if it were to be a lose, the girlfriend would not want to discount on what would have been expected of expected of for a refund. I think a 10% or at most 20% of the win would be appropriate. Returning the funds just as it was don't seem fair.

In story 2
It depends largely on the sort of apprenticeship. I say this because I'm yet to go though the provided link but given that it's me taking the risk and with my money, I get to decide what to give to my boss. At most, I leave if we can't reach an accord but, its definitely not going to be 50:50. It doesn't make sense!

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October 21, 2022, 01:58:37 PM
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First story:
Because the money used is money stolen from his girlfriend, so he must accepted the request of the owner of the money, because he has used the money without permission. that is if he intends to return the money.

For the second story:
If that person is in my position, the money used to bet is my money, I don't care about my boss's request. if he wants that kind of money, then bet yourself. but on the basis of humanity and respect for those who guide, I can give according to my will, without coercion.  Tongue

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In my opinion, a man who wins a large sum of money in a casino has the right to dispose of his winnings as he wishes, even if he plays with the money he borrowed. In the first situation, the guy has to give the girl back the 10,000 and thank her depending on his generosity. In the second situation, you can just tell the boss to go fuck himself. Because luck smiled on the lucky guy and not on him. 

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October 21, 2022, 02:14:55 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

Pretty simple thing IMHO: if the money was stolen from his girlfriend before, it's her money.

If a bet was subsequently placed with the girlfriend's money, she is also entitled to the winnings. That is why I do not understand why the woman does not sue for the full amount. Of course the $40m is a high amount, but with the right lawyers, one should try to get the whole $100m.

In a later settlement, you could always settle for half the amount. So why start with $40m? That doesn't make sense to me.

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October 21, 2022, 02:31:53 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

Pretty simple thing IMHO: if the money was stolen from his girlfriend before, it's her money.

If a bet was subsequently placed with the girlfriend's money, she is also entitled to the winnings. That is why I do not understand why the woman does not sue for the full amount. Of course the $40m is a high amount, but with the right lawyers, one should try to get the whole $100m.

In a later settlement, you could always settle for half the amount. So why start with $40m? That doesn't make sense to me.
She could actually sue his boyfriend for stealing the money. She has all the right to demand because his boyfriend wouldn't win such an amount without her money. If he'll seek advice from a lawyer, she'll surely get an answer of having the whole funds including the profit. The boyfriend should know his place and should pay accountable for what he did because if he won't get his lesson, he'll surely do the same thing to the poor girlfriend again.
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October 21, 2022, 02:32:56 PM
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Pretty simple thing IMHO: if the money was stolen from his girlfriend before, it's her money.
The money should be split into two equals halves and shared to settle the case. Without her money, her boyfriend would not have won that amount, and without the boyfriend's knowledge and him playing that game with her money, the money would have remained 10,000. So, it is a 50-50 case and if the matter is settled in court, that should be the verdict.
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October 21, 2022, 02:35:48 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

I couldn't stop laughing at the amazing reply of people even on the forum. I love my people because  you can't be on this forum and be bored.
Firstly from the story I didn't think the guy stole her money because she forgot the money on the guys shelf, no as if the guy took it from her bag or went to her her, secondly the guy wasn't greedy to hide the goodnews but rather shared the story with her, which I guess was out of love. And remember he also admitted to taking the money when she asked of it which he would have possibly denied.
He also offered to give her five million naira which a tangible reason of investing the other money in his business which possibly would belong to them both if they get married.
I feel that lady is really greedy and I see no reason why the guy should be having a second thought of letting her go.
My question is "WHAT IF HE LOST THE GAME AND COULDN'T AFFORD TO REFUND HER THE MONEY?"


And for the second story, i really don't know why the market community sided the boss but I don't really think the sharing formula is right

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October 21, 2022, 02:40:23 PM
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He stole from his girlfriend, he should at least give her an amount of money that is worth it, given her back just 10000 naira does not worth it at all. Giving her 1 to 5 million naira is not a bad idea.

About the boss, I will not answer. What kind of apprentice? If he loses the money, will the boss give him anything in return? I will never give the boss anything but just little amount if I appreciate him as a boss.
For the first story, I think it’s reasonable to just give the half price of his winnings to his girlfriend, regardless if she is the one who bet or not. As long as the capital belongs to his girlfriend, then it’s as good as that winnings could never be possible without the $10k from his girlfriend.

For the second story, I think splitting half the prize is never reasonable at all. Even though he’s the boss, he should not interfere with the personal life of his apprentice. It’s his money so he deserves all the rewards. Although giving just a little portion of his winnings, not totally half of it, is still a good thing to do out of respect and superiority.

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October 21, 2022, 02:41:59 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Any amount that his girlfriend says would be a reasonable amount to give since it's her money and he stole it so I feel like the guy doesn't have a favorable situation here even though he managed to multiply her money by a lot.

For the other story, i'd abandon the training or look for other ways to replace your boss since it's not worth the effort when you have that kind of boss who would suddenly decide to have a share in your winnings.

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October 21, 2022, 02:48:28 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

1. If a guy stole $10k he should go to jail and he's obligated to pay damages - $10k, the rest of the money is rightfully his.
2. I don't know how big this is (because it's some weird currency) but I think the best strategy for a student would be to send their boss to hell and keep all the money for themselves.

This is my opinion, but I understand that different people have different relationships and it’s not a pity for someone to give their girlfriend even 5 million. This is a subjective matter.
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October 21, 2022, 03:03:43 PM
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He stole from his girlfriend, he should at least give her an amount of money that is worth it, given her back just 10000 naira does not worth it at all. Giving her 1 to 5 million naira is not a bad idea.


I think we should consider the other side of the story had it been he lost in the bet, I believe he gave her back the same amount that he stole simply because his girlfriend is not worth giving more than that. May be before he won the gamble she has said a lot of bad things to him thinking that he was going to lose and pay her back the amount that he stole or her attitude towards him when she realised that her boyfriend is a gambler has not been fare, probably there must be something that is not clear in the story of OP.

Did you read the scenario, he stole the money from her.  You think it's just fair if she gets back the same amount of money.  And if he stole 10k what makes you think he would pay her back since he didn't have the money in the first place.  I think you need to re read the scenario, and if you did than your moral compass needs adjusting.

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October 21, 2022, 03:16:11 PM
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Usually, if we have a lover, we give him more and want to make him happy. But for the first story, I wonder why he only gave $10k to his girlfriend and didn't give more because it was his girlfriend's money that he stole. He is a very ungrateful person. I just hope he can realize that he has been helped by his girlfriend indirectly.

And for the second story, this is a case that might also happen elsewhere where the boss asks his employees for a share when they get something. If I were his employee, maybe I would have reported it to the police so my boss would be arrested for forcing me to give away the winnings.

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October 21, 2022, 03:21:35 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


On the first scenario since he stole the money his girlfriend has the right to demand that 40million in his 100 million earning, I believe even the girl will make a complain or the guy will be sued still he stole the money so the girl will win the case, if he don't want to be in jail and left without anything in his winning jackpot so he should give that and gamble again if he wants.
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

A confusing situation (at least the first one) and it all depends on the evidence base and the legal status of the operations that took place. If a girl has evidence that her boyfriend stole the money, then he faces a prison term (again, you need to look at the jurisdiction and see how long the term is), so if you settle the matter amicably, it may be more profitable to give 40 million.
The second case is no less confusing, I think it's worth weighing what is more important - money or "public opinion" and make a choice. For me, public opinion has zero value, but as you can see, for that student it doesn't matter at all.

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Considering such stories to be true, which is rare in the first place,

Case1 - Anybody winning money on betting has done so on their own accord, so how to wish to spend that money or pay back "debts" is their own choice and not obligation. It is wrong to steal money from anybody, of course paying back the money is an attempt to redeem, so at least the stolen amount should be returned if not with interest.

Case2 - I highly doubt this story, coming the type of account which posted the story, I am sure that the story is fake one, only used to generate buzz and get some likes and replies on twitter. Still then, what type of apprentice tells their boss about their bets, unless they took money from their boss to place the bet - in which case I would say that person is irresponsible about their money.

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Considering such stories to be true, which is rare in the first place,

Case1 - Anybody winning money on betting has done so on their own accord, so how to wish to spend that money or pay back "debts" is their own choice and not obligation. It is wrong to steal money from anybody, of course paying back the money is an attempt to redeem, so at least the stolen amount should be returned if not with interest.

Case2 - I highly doubt this story, coming the type of account which posted the story, I am sure that the story is fake one, only used to generate buzz and get some likes and replies on twitter. Still then, what type of apprentice tells their boss about their bets, unless they took money from their boss to place the bet - in which case I would say that person is irresponsible about their money.

I totally agree on case 2 and I know for sure that the two stories are some pizzy-head fabrications; just maybe to acquire traffic as you said or, gain verification.

My emphasis are on case 1 and your replies; do you mean that if it were you, all you'd do is  -- let out the money you stole from your girl's purse? Would that really make true, the love that you claimed to have for her? Do you know that if she decides to Sue you, you'll have to pay for property damages? I mean.... atleast, even if it's not a 50-50 deal, you should make things right.... after all, she didn't borrow you the money, you stole 'em 😹

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October 21, 2022, 06:47:51 PM
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Story number two I’d have to dig a little further in to. I’m not sure his mentor really deserves anything, but it would seemingly make sense for the apprentice to help him out at least a little bit.

Story number one is pretty crazy. There’s no question that he needs to give her far more than just the 10k he stole. At minimum she is deserving of at least a million and more than likely probably a couple million. After all without her he’d have none of it !

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October 21, 2022, 07:51:22 PM
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Story 1
His girlfriend deserves to get bigger money since the man used the money to win 100 million. If the man quite loves his girlfriend, I'm sure he won't mind giving her bigger money. 1-10 million for that girl seems the right amount to give. That money has a vital role to win 100 million, how can the man pay her back 10k only? The man becomes greedy after having big money, he forgets the way he earned it. I suspect, the man no longer loves the girl now. lol  Cheesy

Story 2
I don't understand why his boss wants a share of 16 million. The man used his own money, right?  Huh
If he got the money in his own way, the boss didn't deserve to get anything. Unless the man used his boss's money to win 16 million, the boss deserves to get 50:50. However, ideally, they must have an agreement first before the man used the boss's money on BET.


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October 21, 2022, 08:00:11 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



For the story 1, I would say the liable amount to be returned is 10K only cause that is what he stole apart from that he may face legal actions if there is enough evidence to prove the case in the court, but if ethically speaking then 10% is still a good deal to pay instead of 40%.

Story 2, if the money belonging to you and you won the reward then there is nothing have to be paid.









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October 21, 2022, 08:58:36 PM
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Considering such stories to be true, which is rare in the first place,

Case1 - Anybody winning money on betting has done so on their own accord, so how to wish to spend that money or pay back "debts" is their own choice and not obligation. It is wrong to steal money from anybody, of course paying back the money is an attempt to redeem, so at least the stolen amount should be returned if not with interest.

Case2 - I highly doubt this story, coming the type of account which posted the story, I am sure that the story is fake one, only used to generate buzz and get some likes and replies on twitter. Still then, what type of apprentice tells their boss about their bets, unless they took money from their boss to place the bet - in which case I would say that person is irresponsible about their money.

I totally agree on case 2 and I know for sure that the two stories are some pizzy-head fabrications; just maybe to acquire traffic as you said or, gain verification.

My emphasis are on case 1 and your replies; do you mean that if it were you, all you'd do is  -- let out the money you stole from your girl's purse? Would that really make true, the love that you claimed to have for her? Do you know that if she decides to Sue you, you'll have to pay for property damages? I mean.... atleast, even if it's not a 50-50 deal, you should make things right.... after all, she didn't borrow you the money, you stole 'em 😹

Yes, specially case number 2, however, as others have said, even if the boss is the mentor, I wouldn't split that money from him. I mean you know it fair, you didn't use anyone's money here. And just because you won big, he wanted to have part of it? that's wrong. And maybe this is really a lesson for us gamblers, never to mix love and gambling or never let anyone knows if you win huge amount of gambling money because everyone will be on your neck.

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October 21, 2022, 11:21:15 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?

If this girl will be your wife you know what you're going into when he becomes your wife, and if the girl is wise enough he can ask for more because she can sue her for stealing, better give her what she asks for and look for a better one.

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I like the comment by one guy on Twitter, you are not a slave to force anyone to give you his winnings unless they have a signed contract, he should give him based on what you want to give him, its your money, and it's your rule, people show their colors when they see you with a lot of money and you don't want to be around this kind of people.



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October 21, 2022, 11:46:07 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

This is funny as because of the money, their relationship is now in jeopardy.

A man is a piece of crap for not giving his girlfriend a fair amount while the girl becomes a slave of money when she demanded a specific amount.

Feel sad about this event but I think it's just a makeup story and not really true.

Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Apprentices or what we called it doesn't have a responsibility to give money to their boss. I don't know the story behind that case.

Though apprentice can give a share as showing a good deed maybe because of how their boss treated him good.
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October 21, 2022, 11:46:45 PM
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The story 1 reminds of those girlfriends that act as a wife as if they're already married but not yet have came to that point. They are no way to demand that amount of money from the whole $100M that has been won. Well, the boyfriend if he really loves her will give that in but I guess there's a catch why that woman is demanding him with that amount of money. If a girlfriend is supportive and really loves the man of her life, she won't demand any money from him and just let him be if he'll hand out some or none.

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October 21, 2022, 11:53:54 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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The girl has the right to demand half of the winnings since the money used is her own money without her consent.  But well, the guy can just marry his girlfriend to solve all the problem about money  Grin.  

A lesson learned here is never to share the news of your winnings with your girlfriend unless you are ready to share some of it.  Grin Grin Grin

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

There is an agreement hidden from most people.  As I read the replies, I came to the conclusion that it is generous for the Master/Boss to split the winnings.  It is taboo to us but once the boy is into an apprenticeship of the said tribe, he has no right to own anything.  All the expenses are shouldered by the boss so if things happen southward, the boss will keep on spending money for the apprenticeship of this boy.  It is the agreement between the boss and the apprentice.

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October 22, 2022, 05:39:08 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


Story 1 is a though one, if she was our wife she would be entitled to 50% of the money. But as our girlfriend I am not sure howuch she can claim. If I was in that situation I would check it with a lawyer to make sure I am not making any mistake with the law. It was her money, but he returned it and he was the one taking the risk. In case he lost the bet he would still need to return the money. Also it depends on how long are you dating, is she the love of your life and do you want to get married? There could be a compromise, like you use half of the money to only buy things together, get married and share a life together.
Story 2 seems really unfair, if you gamble with your own money why should you be forced to share it with your boss? There is no way I would have give any money to my boss. And a 50:50 split is ridiculous, rather I would quit and look for a new job. With my large winnings I would also have enough pocket money to relax until I find a new job. When it comes to money friendship stops, and a boss is even below my friends. I would be more comfortable to share my money with my girlfriend than with my boss. This makes me a bit angry, I really feel bad for the guy.
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October 22, 2022, 06:13:29 AM
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Here the first person to steal 10K and win 100 million should have given his girlfriend an additional amount. On the one hand, his crime of theft would be forgivable and they would maintain a good relationship with her. And the question that comes up in the second story, I think it's the boss being wronged by the apprentice. He is in no way entitled to take this money. Maybe boss cannot control his greed and is forcing him to pay. But according to me he is not belongs to get the payment.

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October 22, 2022, 06:58:12 AM
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Story 1 :

~ The girlfriend has the option to go to court and to lay a claim of theft against her boyfriend (or soon to be ex-boyfriend) ..and as soon as she wins that case, she then initiate a claim against the winnings... because he would not have won the money, if he did not use her money.

Story 2 :

The owner of the business does not have any claim against any of the money that the apprentice won, but if the owner of the business can show proof that the apprentice won that money, when he was supposed to work.... he can terminate the apprenticeship.  Wink

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October 22, 2022, 07:18:22 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Weird story though
1. If the man really loves his partner why should he hesitate to share the money, but it would be better if the money was directly used to buy investment goods instead of sharing it which would eventually disappear.

2. The apprentice had no obligation to share it with his boss.
But I don't know for sure the real story because from the replies to the tweets there are those who say that the boss can even have it all https://twitter.com/victor_onyi_/status/1582722604540264453 even though I don't agree with that maybe the culture there is like that that the apprentice don't have any rights

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I called the story a mere story, because without the boy telling her girlfriend that he has won such amount of money he would have not known that such amount of money is involved, and if actually the money was lost, it very clear that the boy will refunds the money as per say. The aspect of boss side, i will say why the apprentice will share the money equal to its boss it might be as results of ignorant, because the Boss don't have anything to do with the money, the bet money is strictly meant for the apprentice without anyone.
Yes, about the apprentice, the boss has nothing to do with the money. It is ignorance and if he gave the boss, he is foolish. He should not give the boss anything.

About the first one that you talked about, the girl friend can know her money lost without her boyfriend told her and that only his boyfriend has access to steal the money. We do not know what actually happened though as the whole story is not included and may not even be known or become known to the  public.

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October 22, 2022, 07:33:11 AM
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First of all there is luck matters. In first case he stolen the girl friends money and gambled. Think that if he lost. What he would do? So I think girlfriend is right. He should give 40M to her. Or if he didn't want to give so he should marry her and say its all yours.

In the second case I think the boss is greedy person. He has an eye on her money so he is asking for money. So I think he shouldn't give money to him.

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October 22, 2022, 01:38:13 PM
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With these stories we can see how money really changes the perspective of a person in the story one even though it is your girlfriend, of course, there's a chance that you give her or not because at the end it is your decision your not even his husband yet but if you really love both each other I guess this earning is really good for starting with your life, In the story two if the employee uses the company money there's a chance he will got nothing but the offer of the boss is a good thing its both win-win situation for them. But of course make sure the transaction is between only to you sometimes people give their opinions make the decision change immediately because of the influence.

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October 22, 2022, 02:00:41 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



1. If his girlfriend is "demanding" money then she is not interested in the relationship but the money. This shows she is money minded.
The guy should just give the 10k back and not anything more than that. With the amount he won he could easily get another one  Grin
But then they will also be behind him just for money sake. He and his girlfriend should come to a mutual agreement in this case.

2. If I were in his place I would not pay a single penny to the boss and pretty much quit the job and get another one.

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October 22, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



It's the right amount to give to your girlfriend because you steal from her, if she pursues the case you will have to spend more but you can negotiate I'm sure she'll understand, because you're gonna use the money for your business, tell her it's for your both future, in the second case I will abandon my training, he has no right to pressure me to give half of my rewards, he can request but not pressure me.

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October 22, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
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Here the first person to steal 10K and win 100 million should have given his girlfriend an additional amount. On the one hand, his crime of theft would be forgivable and they would maintain a good relationship with her. And the question that comes up in the second story, I think it's the boss being wronged by the apprentice. He is in no way entitled to take this money. Maybe boss cannot control his greed and is forcing him to pay. But according to me he is not belongs to get the payment.

If I were the girlfriend of this gambler, I would squeeze as much money out of him as possible and end the relationship. What is the point of having any business with a person who steals a significant amount (10k is a serious amount of money in any country) in order to place a bet. He has obvious problems with gambling addiction and I think that the money he won he will lose over time.

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October 22, 2022, 02:53:01 PM
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I don't know if these examples are true stories or not. But I have an answer to these examples.

I think the person who took his girlfriend's money without permission should go to jail. Next, he must return the amount he stole from his girlfriend. The penalty for stealing money cannot be to pay more money. The penalty for stealing money is determined by law. We are talking about a crime that must be punished according to the laws of the country.

The apprentice took a risk with his own money. If the apprentice lost money on the bet, I don't know if his boss would have paid him off. I don't think he would do such a thing. There's no need for him to do such a thing anyway. In the gambling world, everyone competes for their own luck. The boss has clearly extorted his apprentice's money here. I think this should be a clear crime too.

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October 22, 2022, 02:56:17 PM
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In the first scenario, I assume that the girlfriend didn't know her boyfriend used her money just to gamble. In this setup alone, you can see that there's only a little sense of trust and respect between them because her boyfriend didn't bother to tell her he'll borrow money and use it for gambling. It's the girl's money, and as a sign of respect to your partner, you should ask permission first before making any move about what's not yours to spend. This is why I believe it's fair and just to meet halfway with her girlfriend. Settle an agreement that's not too big and burdensome on your part if you recognize her as your support system. Afterall, you won't be able to win if you don't have the money to bet in the first place. I just find it somehow greedy that the girlfriend demanded a specific amount which is 40% of his winning because it should be up to the guy to give her a token of appreciation. I guess they just lack communication in money matters. Which is perhaps the reason why the boyfriend stole instead of letting her know.

In the second scenario, I wouldn't really give up the half of my winning to my boss especially if the money I used to bet came from my own pocket. Being a boss demanding half of the prize you didn't win, didn't give a share to the bet made, and didn't really do the greater job to make the winning happen just displays pure greediness. If you guided your apprentice to make a bet and you did it wholeheartedly, then you shouldn't expect anything in return. If your apprentice happens to win, it should be up to him whether to give you a portion of his winnings or not. It is unfair to give someone half of your winning prize especially if they didn't contribute that much. You deserve to enjoy your prize. Other people's feelings is not your responsibility.
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October 22, 2022, 06:40:36 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

Common, this is too risky and bad enough of him, he stole a money that does not belong to him, he must have been very slerk in allowing the girlfriend know as well, so this kind of person is just oppotuned to make fortune out if he stupidity he created to gamble, but it is very unfare to return back the same amount he stole from the girlfriend, that's even more worst than the stealing he made at first place.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

In this case the boss is a bad person and the people surrounded were also negative thinking minds, can they also do the same if applicable to them? I think there's conspiracy somewhere, the boss might have lias with others to get the half from the apprentice and give them some cuts as well, so they wouldn't want to go against the bad opinion and also i want to believe that the apprentice is also a young and inexperience boy if not, no where on earth you dare tries that shit with an experience gambler except for a novice.

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October 22, 2022, 08:00:05 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
What this boyfriend did is wrong since the beginning. He gambled with stolen money from his girlfriend, who is someone who was supposed to have him as one of the most trustful people in her life, therefore he betrayed her by his actions. A decent fine for this guy was to give the whole prize to his girlfriend.

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An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
If I were the apprendice I would definitelly give up on the training, because I wouldn't like to have a master with such character traits of someone who wants to take advantage of others, especially those in an inferior position. I despise this kind of individual who use his social, influential or leadership position to abuse others and have undeserved benefits.

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October 22, 2022, 09:38:20 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



On his girlfriend, because she steals from her when she can just ask her to lend him some money its right to give her a big portion not just give back the money if not for the money she stole, he would have not won that amount, and for the second case since it's his money he has the right to decide what to do with the money, he should look for another trainer than giving in to what his boss can ask him to do, you don't like this kind of boss that decides for you when it comes to money.


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October 23, 2022, 12:23:13 AM
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If I were the apprendice I would definitelly give up on the training, because I wouldn't like to have a master with such character traits of someone who wants to take advantage of others, especially those in an inferior position. I despise this kind of individual who use his social, influential or leadership position to abuse others and have undeserved benefits.
Of course, if a leader is corrupt himself, how can he teach his subordinates? And what is there to learn from that kind of leader? Qualified leadership plays a major role in making a competent leader. One thing to say here is that whoever is the keeper is also taking the position of the eater. Such people have nothing to learn. I think that apprentice should leave that place soon.

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October 23, 2022, 12:52:50 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?
IMO, it's just right for the girlfriend to demand 40 million to his boyfriend. The money that used is originally from her and in fact was stolen. He can charge his boyfriend for stealing her money but since the bet won (fortunately), the boyfriend must share the money because it didn't came from his own pocket.

Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Clearly the boss is wrong here. He take advantage the apprentice for his own good. If i'm the apprentice I will not share the money because it's really unfair. Let's say the worse case happened and the apprentice didn't win, do you think the boss will share a money for his loss? Certainly no right?

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October 23, 2022, 06:35:02 AM
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Story 1 :

Only an out-of-court settlement could make her benefit from the money won, she should be wise. No court will penalize the guy for winning thereby giving her all the money won. The court would rather tell him to return the initial money back to her if she could prove her case either in loss or gain.

Story 2 :

This is a bit tricky, especially if the owner of the work wants to advance the case under stringent terms and conditions signed by the apprentice. However, if it is to lose the apprenticeship alone, this is little or no damage, and hope the money is much. Even if the money is not much, the apprentice could look for another boss.

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October 23, 2022, 08:29:20 AM
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The guy doesn't owe this girl anything except $10,000, which he stole from her. If I were her, I would stop communicating with a man who steals money altogether. But most likely she is mercenary and the money can turn her blind eye to her boyfriend's illegal actions. I think their story will end when the guy runs out of money, and he will run out quickly if he's already gambling with other people's money.

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October 23, 2022, 09:05:40 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?
I'll give 10 percent of it without any regrets. But 40% is just too much. We are not even married yet. What if it was a loss? All I will hear is her screams about how stupid I am and I am sure she will break our relationship.
Another solution is to marry her so we could share the fortune but I doubt that will happen since she is already greedy to take almost half of the money.
That already tells how she would just spend the money on unnecessary things.

Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
I don't know much about the rules of being an apprentice but I read one comment about how the master will save the apprentice's ass if ever the bet went south and the other perks of having one. So I guess 50-50 is just fair, unlike the stolen funds.
I think both depend on the situations they are in.

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October 23, 2022, 09:26:18 AM
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The guy doesn't owe this girl anything except $10,000, which he stole from her. If I were her, I would stop communicating with a man who steals money altogether. But most likely she is mercenary and the money can turn her blind eye to her boyfriend's illegal actions. I think their story will end when the guy runs out of money, and he will run out quickly if he's already gambling with other people's money.

I agree about the guy's diagnosis - everything is pretty obvious and a fool with money loses it very quickly. But the girl's actions are quite reasonable - stealing 10k dollars is a criminal offense and having such leverage on the guy is quite reasonable to get as much money from him as possible. In addition, he should not resist much, since "they came easily, they left easily" - he still got into a fairy tale and became a millionaire, then the fact that he will have a little less millions is not very important.

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October 23, 2022, 09:50:02 AM
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In the first case, there was a very big risk of losing money, what would he tell his girlfriend if he lost her money? I'm sorry I stole your money and lost it? So it's quite fair to split them in half here. In the end, the guy had the choice to make the girl his wife if she agreed to marry the gambler Smiley and all the money would remain in the family. But even without this, everyone will have plenty of money for a comfortable life.

The second case is some kind of stupidity, such a boss and all his entourage must be removed from his life. )

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October 23, 2022, 11:17:45 AM
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In the first case, there was a very big risk of losing money, what would he tell his girlfriend if he lost her money? I'm sorry I stole your money and lost it? So it's quite fair to split them in half here. In the end, the guy had the choice to make the girl his wife if she agreed to marry the gambler Smiley and all the money would remain in the family. But even without this, everyone will have plenty of money for a comfortable life.

The second case is some kind of stupidity, such a boss and all his entourage must be removed from his life. )

When you arent still have the legality or speaking about conjugal or simply she's still your girlfriend then i dont really see the reason on why she would really be demanding that huge
pie cut on the said winnings.Although its understandable that if he didnt able to stole that 10k then he wont really be making huge money or hit the winning.
So this would really be depending on that story #1 dude if he would really be having those cut-ups but for situation #2 then its a total dumb for
his boss to make out some claims and mandated about having some share on his employee's win.


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October 23, 2022, 06:04:09 PM
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In the first case, there was a very big risk of losing money, what would he tell his girlfriend if he lost her money? I'm sorry I stole your money and lost it? So it's quite fair to split them in half here. In the end, the guy had the choice to make the girl his wife if she agreed to marry the gambler Smiley and all the money would remain in the family. But even without this, everyone will have plenty of money for a comfortable life.

The second case is some kind of stupidity, such a boss and all his entourage must be removed from his life. )
He has become rich with the money of girlfriend. Of course he is a convicted. Who needs to apologize. Here if that girlfriend forgives him then no problem but if not what to do? Confessing to someone leaves nothing to be done. @Cryptmuster said about marriage but it would not be easy either. That person may agree or not depend on her. At present girl friend is generally very weak towards money. Who owns more money usually girl friend agrees to get married in most causes.

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October 23, 2022, 07:56:18 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



These stories are both messed up and completely lack justice (I would say). In the first story, the girlfriend deserves ALL the winnings not just 40 mill due to the fact it was her stolen money. In the second story the boss deserves absolutely nothing or everything depending on who's money was used to bet. I am reading on the twitter thread a lot of people saying it was the bosses money. So that makes it a bit confusing.

I am completely leaving out cultural and social issues of different countries out of my equation because every country has a different view on whats right and wrong.

The BF who stole his GFs money is 100% a scumbag though.

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October 23, 2022, 09:25:29 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Any amount that his girlfriend says would be a reasonable amount to give since it's her money and he stole it so I feel like the guy doesn't have a favorable situation here even though he managed to multiply her money by a lot.

For the other story, i'd abandon the training or look for other ways to replace your boss since it's not worth the effort when you have that kind of boss who would suddenly decide to have a share in your winnings.
Probably, that would be the best thing to do. Never argue with your girlfriend since it’s her money after all. If she will agree with 50/50, I guess that’s good enough. Because what you have contributed is just luck, the capital is still from your girlfriend which you stole.

For the second story, if you can afford to find another training, then go for it as it’s useless to stay in a training with an undisciplined and irresponsible boss. But if you find it hard to find one, then stay with your boss but never agree with him with splitting into two your money, just give him even 1/4 of it.

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October 23, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

Her girlfriend is right he would not have won that money, if not for her money that he steal and why would he be in a dilemma
he will still have 60 million and he keeps his girlfriend if he believes that he will settle with this girl and then give her, her share.



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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?




I will be the one to decide not the boss, he did not lend the money and he did not give me any tips on the bet I will give him a tip but not split half of my winning that's too much if he asks for a split even if he is respected in his field.

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October 23, 2022, 10:46:25 PM
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Her girlfriend is right he would not have won that money, if not for her money that he steal and why would he be in a dilemma
he will still have 60 million and he keeps his girlfriend if he believes that he will settle with this girl and then give her, her share.
Indeed. It seems fair enough because it is her money.
However, I assume it is actually negotiable and should end with a good ending even if the man refuses 40 million dollars. But the man at least gives her 20 million dollars, ideally 10 - 40 million dollars isn't too much considering all the money used for betting is her girlfriend's money. In addition, she is his girlfriend too, why it is so difficult to share that amount of money with someone that he loves? Unless the man becomes greedy, it should be not a problem.

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October 24, 2022, 05:25:28 AM
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the bet money is strictly meant for the apprentice without anyone.

I was actually thinking is only me that sees same thing you are saying, there is no way him should share his money with boss or even with the girlfriend because if the guy didn't tell anyone I wonder who would say lets share or you must make it 50/50 as how?
So the apprentice decides whom to give or not, but as for the girlfriend he may compensate he with good money but not to share equally among themselves. Could it be a mere story you say?
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October 24, 2022, 07:55:44 AM
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Her girlfriend is right he would not have won that money, if not for her money that he steal and why would he be in a dilemma
he will still have 60 million and he keeps his girlfriend if he believes that he will settle with this girl and then give her, her share.
Indeed. It seems fair enough because it is her money.
However, I assume it is actually negotiable and should end with a good ending even if the man refuses 40 million dollars. But the man at least gives her 20 million dollars, ideally 10 - 40 million dollars isn't too much considering all the money used for betting is her girlfriend's money. In addition, she is his girlfriend too, why it is so difficult to share that amount of money with someone that he loves? Unless the man becomes greedy, it should be not a problem.

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Right. If it weren't for her money, he wouldn't be able to win that amount. He should at least give a considerable amount to his partner as a token of appreciation and to show gratitude. It shouldn't necessarily be 40 million, but an amount he is willing to give wholeheartedly to show he is thankful because stealing isn't right as well no matter how you put it. Asking for forgiveness and thanking for the money you "borrowed" without her knowing shouldn't be a hard thing to do if your relationship has been founded on a strong ground.

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He has become rich with the money of girlfriend. Of course he is a convicted. Who needs to apologize. Here if that girlfriend forgives him then no problem but if not what to do? Confessing to someone leaves nothing to be done. @Cryptmuster said about marriage but it would not be easy either. That person may agree or not depend on her. At present girl friend is generally very weak towards money. Who owns more money usually girl friend agrees to get married in most causes.

It probably won't work, if she marries a guy for the money they end up getting divorced anyway, but it was a joke anyway, I thought that was understandable. ) In any case, the guy's act was very bad, he stole money from his girlfriend, it destroys trust between people. This story also tells us that the guy has a gambling addiction and he plays for big money, on the basis of which we can assume that he can soon lose all the money that he managed to win. Therefore, the girl does the right thing when she demands half the money, because she understands all these problems.

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October 24, 2022, 08:49:53 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



- there should be no need to tell her winnings to convince her boyfriend that the money will be returned in full, obviously his girlfriend will sue because his winnings came from the money he stole, maybe this is karma behind his winnings so there are demands that make him a dilemma
If the woman is believed to be a life partner, there is no problem granting her demands because no one is harmed, especially for the sake of the baby.
- it is better to leave the training because the Boss does not have the right to share 50% of his winnings.  If you persist, you will be more oppressed because he will be more arbitrary in every way
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He has become rich with the money of girlfriend. Of course he is a convicted. Who needs to apologize. Here if that girlfriend forgives him then no problem but if not what to do? Confessing to someone leaves nothing to be done. @Cryptmuster said about marriage but it would not be easy either. That person may agree or not depend on her. At present girl friend is generally very weak towards money. Who owns more money usually girl friend agrees to get married in most causes.

It probably won't work, if she marries a guy for the money they end up getting divorced anyway, but it was a joke anyway, I thought that was understandable. ) In any case, the guy's act was very bad, he stole money from his girlfriend, it destroys trust between people. This story also tells us that the guy has a gambling addiction and he plays for big money, on the basis of which we can assume that he can soon lose all the money that he managed to win. Therefore, the girl does the right thing when she demands half the money, because she understands all these problems.
Yes, the major problems here could have been created. What would have happened if the man could not won the bet? Will he tell his girl friend about the stealing money? may be not. There may be debate about it. However, it is not worthy of taking money to gambling by stealing others money. It can break the good relation with in few seconds.

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October 24, 2022, 12:24:44 PM
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I think there's much to learn from OP two live story been used as an example, this is the real thing that happened and we are very fortunate to take a good cognisance of learning through it, because it's what me and you can fall a victim, not until we pass through such situations we cannot defend the level of how far we could go in relation to the two exampls made, but it's bad enough not to learn how to appreciate other fellow not to talk of giving them money, that kind of gambler that has stealing habit is detestable, his girlfriend should avoid further relationship with him, while the second story as well should look into the boss properly, he is such that is selfish and covectious, we must just believe this that live itself isn't balanced and we must be careful of the kind of people sorrounding us.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Your girlfriend deserves the money she's asking if not for her money you would not have won that amount and she can sue you for stealing if she decides it, maybe she also needs money that is why she asked you for that significant amount of money if you really love her then give in to her request, and on the second story you are the one who bet and it is your money so you get to decide the portion that you can give to your boss not him pressure you to give in.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Your girlfriend deserves the money she's asking if not for her money you would not have won that amount and she can sue you for stealing if she decides it, maybe she also needs money that is why she asked you for that significant amount of money if you really love her then give in to her request, and on the second story you are the one who bet and it is your money so you get to decide the portion that you can give to your boss not him pressure you to give in.

Taking money without telling is part of theft that can be your girlfriend or whatever. She deserves this bet money. Basically the girlfriend should take responsibility for distributing the winnings, she belongs to it. But reality shows a different picture. The girlfriend can claim she has the right. But in the 2nd story the boss has no right to ask for money.

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October 24, 2022, 04:27:13 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
for the first question:
if i were that guy i would still give $40 million to his girlfriend. because first the man had wrongly stole his girlfriend's money for gambling and the man could win $100 million because of the help of his girlfriend's money even though it was stealing but without the stolen money the man would not win at gambling and take home $100 million. let's just say that $40 million is an apology gift for stealing his money to gamble


for the second question:
i would prefer to leave the training and find another training. having 16 million naira is a lot of money and could find better training.
the first reason is that the student is betting using his personal money instead of his boss's money and as a boss it is inappropriate to ask to share the gambling winnings it is very stupid to look presumptuous. unless the student distributes money in class to the boss without the boss asking that's better

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October 24, 2022, 04:41:28 PM
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Indeed. It seems fair enough because it is her money.
However, I assume it is actually negotiable and should end with a good ending even if the man refuses 40 million dollars. But the man at least gives her 20 million dollars, ideally 10 - 40 million dollars isn't too much considering all the money used for betting is her girlfriend's money. In addition, she is his girlfriend too, why it is so difficult to share that amount of money with someone that he loves? Unless the man becomes greedy, it should be not a problem.

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The dude has serious problems with his head - he steals to gamble. So I would not be surprised by its other possible "shortcomings". By the way, I remembered about taxes - I wonder how much he has left of 100 million after paying taxes and does the girl take this into account? Maybe this can change the picture a bit.

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October 24, 2022, 05:24:52 PM
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Are this two story legit or fictional? Especially the story number one because he won a very large amount only for a not so big capital. The girl demanding 40m look so fabricated as well. I think if I am the girl I will only be contented if the original money was returned on me but I really think that my boyfriend will give me some extra cash as a kind of interest for what he borrowed. Maybe he will give me 1 to 2 million dollars.

I will be happy and grateful with that amount already. Now on the second story I wouldn't abandon my training and I will gladly follow what my boss wants because he is my boss and without him, I won't ever win a huge amount like that.

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October 24, 2022, 05:29:12 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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On this scenario, the girlfriend has every right to demand for any percentage of the winning as the money used to gamble is hers. Also, if worst comes to worst, the girlfriend will be given almost or if not the whole winnings since the funds used was stolen and there was no confirmation between them about the bet made.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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Unfortunately, for this scenario, I cannot provide any valid comment as the story seems incomplete and lack to many information on whose side to lean on. If in any case the funds used for the bet was from his salary, I don't think that the boss neither the company as well as his colleagues has any right about the winnings.

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October 24, 2022, 08:59:45 PM
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Are this two story legit or fictional? Especially the story number one because he won a very large amount only for a not so big capital. The girl demanding 40m look so fabricated as well. I think if I am the girl I will only be contented if the original money was returned on me but I really think that my boyfriend will give me some extra cash as a kind of interest for what he borrowed. Maybe he will give me 1 to 2 million dollars.

I will be happy and grateful with that amount already. Now on the second story I wouldn't abandon my training and I will gladly follow what my boss wants because he is my boss and without him, I won't ever win a huge amount like that.
Really sounds fictional eh?

You cant really believe that there are really people who would really just let these things to happen? Specially if we do talk about big amounts? Its impossible for someone to have those decisions.
It cant really be just believable that someone will really allow that their boss or gf's would really be getting some part of the winnings which is really indeed bullshit just like others been
saying on here.
If you do allow those partitioning of winning then its up to your choice but there are some decisions which are bit off or really just too much because
its not your responsibility on giving part of winnings.

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October 24, 2022, 09:36:22 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



I think the girl is being so greedy and selfish in this case. The man to me is a honest and gentle man because from the first story, it doesn't seem to me like the man stole the money from the girl because the money was in his house and she forgot it while going to make her hair and then he used it for a greater purpose for them both while hoping for a positive result of winning.
Firstly he didn't hide the winning from the girl, which some greedy and ungrateful men would have done and maybe for the period just get to refund the ten thousand back to her, but he told her of the winning and even the exact amount, Ghosh that is rare and even offered to pay her 5 million, this is the height of greed from the girl as the guy also told her what he Intendee doing with the money.

I really don't know why the marketers supported the boss in the second story because the Nigeria I know wouldn't let the boy even give his boss upto a million. I think the sharing formula was wrong.

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October 24, 2022, 09:41:57 PM
 #120

These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

this is a moral issue, because in terms of law the guy returned the money he took, so she shouldn't charge him more than that, because if he lost everything he would have to pay back all the money he took from her. but on the moral issue he has to give her 50% of the value he earned, that would be the best attitude of a person with character. but I keep asking myself: how did she find out he made so much money? it seems like everyone plays in nigeria and when someone wins is widely reported in the news, doesn't that put the winners at risk? if thieves find out that person X won millions, then it's easy to go and rob that person who won. in the article it says that he himself told her, but I find that very strange, because then how did it end up in the news channels?

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

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How the hell can this employee be a person who doesn't think? with that amount of money he didn't even need this job anymore, he could create his own business, how old is this employee? Just reading this story makes me angry, I can't even imagine if I saw this employee, I would tell him that luck like the one he had doesn't appear twice and that he needs to take all his money to save and open a business

I really don't know why the marketers supported the boss in the second story because the Nigeria I know wouldn't let the boy even give his boss upto a million. I think the sharing formula was wrong.

if he goes to court he can make the boss return all the money and if the boss doesn't have the amount the court can pledge the company in favor of the employee, but it seems to me that the employee is very dumb

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October 24, 2022, 10:43:49 PM
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for the first question:
if i were that guy i would still give $40 million to his girlfriend. because first the man had wrongly stole his girlfriend's money for gambling and the man could win $100 million because of the help of his girlfriend's money even though it was stealing but without the stolen money the man would not win at gambling and take home $100 million. let's just say that $40 million is an apology gift for stealing his money to gamble
It make sense that the guy won't win if he hasn't stole his girlfriend's money. The girlfriend could act as the victim because it was her money that was stolen.

But luckily, the guy had won a lot and for sure there won't be pursuing for any sue because of the act and she just wants a hefty amount of share from that win.

It's on the guy now if he'll realize the situation that he's in. Well, because of the money that he's got, that will make him think untouchable and he can just dump his girlfriend if that's his way of thinking but hopefully not.

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October 24, 2022, 10:59:10 PM
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~snip~
First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

In the first case, it's pretty clear to me he has to give her the same amount he took, $10k. If he instead of betting and winning would have bought something else, she would have asked for the $10k. So what he did with the money is irrelevant. Also, the fact that the money originally was hers also doesn't matter. If you take a $10k loan from the bank you only pay back the $10k (plus any fees, interest, etc). What you do with the money is irrelevant to the lender. So, if he wants to be nice, he could give her, say, $20k. That's a 100% ROI for her.

In the second case, I would probably have left. I wouldn't want to stay in that environment. Actually I would have left in both cases, the girlfriend and the boss sound like horrible people.

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October 24, 2022, 11:07:47 PM
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How the hell can this employee be a person who doesn't think? with that amount of money he didn't even need this job anymore, he could create his own business, how old is this employee? Just reading this story makes me angry, I can't even imagine if I saw this employee, I would tell him that luck like the one he had doesn't appear twice and that he needs to take all his money to save and open a business

The 2nd story isn't just an employee - employer relationship.  There is more than that.  It is the practice of one tribe where a person become apprentice and his boss supply the basic needs of the person.  It is also agreed that the apprentice is not allowed to own anything.  It is something like, slave - master relationship where the master has the right to all the asset of the slave.   This is actually unacceptable for us but it is what it is in their culture.

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October 24, 2022, 11:18:19 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here


Well, reading this I thought what if the person had lost the 10K bet, then from where would he return her money? His girlfriend would have killed him? Isn't?

He took too much risk in the first place and he was lucky to win the bet. Now we can understand the frustration and greediness of the Girlfriend.
You can argue that asking 40% of the money is immoral but then was stealing the girlfriend's money was morally good  Huh


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October 25, 2022, 08:26:32 PM
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The guy doesn't owe this girl anything except $10,000, which he stole from her. If I were her, I would stop communicating with a man who steals money altogether. But most likely she is mercenary and the money can turn her blind eye to her boyfriend's illegal actions. I think their story will end when the guy runs out of money, and he will run out quickly if he's already gambling with other people's money.
$10k is a big amount already and the guy steals it without the girl knowing it and what if the guy lose it all? Do you think he can be able to pay that easily? No I don't think so, that is why the girl has the rights to demand that high. If not then the girl can take this case in the court just like some of the users in this thread said. All person can change so why not give this guy a second chance?

And I don't think he will ever steal money again judging on the amount that he won. It will take him ages to spend that all. What about the second story? Won't you give your own argument with it? But for me, the player there was lucky that his boss is kind and only demands 50 percent. Some boss will demand more than that. I won't think twice anymore but I'll share the winnings immediately before my boss change his mind.

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October 26, 2022, 07:45:04 AM
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I feel like in story one, I would feel guilty and give some money to her. At least like %25. Maybe even %50 if I really feel passion and love her. Considering my own girlfriend.
In second story I really can't understand how boss can claim money like that. It feels like thievery to me. I would never split that money because it totally belongs to me. I got that money through labor and through wages. Boss has no legal say on it, he has no emotional contribution.
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October 26, 2022, 09:23:58 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Here, of course, the guy did not act honestly towards his girlfriend and could just share his winnings of 100 million naira ($231,481) because he used someone else's money without the consent of the owner, so she demands 40 million naira, which is still noble on her part.

Well, with regard to the second story, if the bet concerns the topic on which the guy receives training from his boss, then in principle he won thanks to the knowledge he received from him and another nuance is that in case of refusal to share the winnings, the student may simply lose the place of study, so here he is in double dependence.
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October 26, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.


First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend


I would love to  comment on this because this is a clear story of complete greediness and not trusted person, Imagine stealing His Girls money just to gamble? and then after winning just giving back the capital he stole?

If the girlfriend can prove that he stole her money? maybe brining him into court and maybe penalizing him for Stealing will be the best way.

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October 26, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
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What reckless steps do gamblers take for the sake of betting for the dream of a big jackpot.

These two stories seem funny if you are not a participant in them. But once you have a vested interest, it all turns into a real drama.

If we consider Story 1, would the girlfriend also demand to share the losses (40% based on the requirement of 40 million) between two if her boyfriend lost the borrowed $ 10k? I am sure that she would have demanded from her boyfriend the full amount to fully compensate her. So, I'm not sure that she has every moral right to demand 40 million. In general, this whole story is a little absurd and seems to be a fiction that no dreamer will come up with: he took money without asking, made a bet and became a millionaire. The owner of the money demands a part of the winnings, although there were no contractual obligations and the money taken from her was returned in full. Nonsense.

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I feel like in story one, I would feel guilty and give some money to her. At least like %25. Maybe even %50 if I really feel passion and love her. Considering my own girlfriend.
In second story I really can't understand how boss can claim money like that. It feels like thievery to me. I would never split that money because it totally belongs to me. I got that money through labor and through wages. Boss has no legal say on it, he has no emotional contribution.

This tells us how live itself is not balanced, the two stories where actually the opposite of each other, frombthe first one, the gambler stole from his girlfriend and yet cheated her by not showing appreciation, such gambler could bebso desperate for anything, the second one got oppressed by the boss just because of being an apprentice, that isn't fare enough as well, should everyone continue to behave in like manners then this world entirely will be so terrible for a living, everyone stepping on each other to make it forcefully, such an oppression is kicked against for a good living and i will rather be careful with my steps from people found in such regards.

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October 26, 2022, 01:28:49 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend
I would love to  comment on this because this is a clear story of complete greediness and not trusted person, Imagine stealing His Girls money just to gamble? and then after winning just giving back the capital he stole?

If the girlfriend can prove that he stole her money? maybe brining him into court and maybe penalizing him for Stealing will be the best way.
Yeah, it wouldn't make sense if he just gave away the capital he stole while he stole it from his own girlfriend. If I were his girlfriend, I would take him to court on charges of stealing money and using it to gamble so that he has to pay for my losses both materially and morally Grin

Maybe he didn't come up with a better excuse and tell him honestly that he stole the girl's money for a gamble, so the girl got angry and demanded he gives her more money.

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October 26, 2022, 03:34:39 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Both stories already have an element of greed there, the girlfriend is greedy and the boss is also so greedy.

The first story in betting betting, I take the point here.
Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet.
the guy shouldn't return more than $10k, if it's true that the money he stole belonged to his girlfriend, he should have returned it without his girlfriend knowing, so the guy doesn't have to pay his girlfriend up to $40k, that's ridiculous, luckily he won the bet, try the money he stole belonging to his girlfriend and lose, of course the story is also different, the demands are in detention, because the man committed the theft.



In my opinion, the student does not need to be afraid and obey his boss, gambling is personal, besides the money he uses is internship money, as far as I know the apprentice is personal money that must be prepared for learning or training programs, the boss has no right to regulate personal,the disciple did not need to hear the boss.

If the student wins 16 million naira gambling, if he wants to give it to the boss, it is personal voluntary, there is no compulsion for that, that's my opinion.

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October 26, 2022, 04:00:52 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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The essence of the first story teaches us the meaning of honesty. Her boyfriend was angry because the man took money by stealing, I think anyone would be angry if the most trusted person did such a disgraceful act.
About his girlfriend demanding 40 million dollars is too much in my opinion, there is no need for him to make that claim because the culprit is his male friend.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I respect him as a boss, but not for the share of the winnings I get. I didn't give anything to the boss because I used my own money to bet. I don't care if he's angry or not, my status as an apprentice there, I can find a job elsewhere if he don't accept me in his place.

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October 26, 2022, 04:43:29 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here
The essence of the first story teaches us the meaning of honesty. Her boyfriend was angry because the man took money by stealing, I think anyone would be angry if the most trusted person did such a disgraceful act.
About his girlfriend demanding 40 million dollars is too much in my opinion, there is no need for him to make that claim because the culprit is his male friend.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here
I respect him as a boss, but not for the share of the winnings I get. I didn't give anything to the boss because I used my own money to bet. I don't care if he's angry or not, my status as an apprentice there, I can find a job elsewhere if he don't accept me in his place.
In the second story the boss, burning with jealousy and unable to do anything, asked him for money Unreasonably. Apprentice should have told him directly that he is not a financial partner. But there is nothing to learn from that kind of teacher. Can he teach who has no morals? That place should be abandoned as soon as possible.

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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


In the first case, it is only fair to give the girlfriend an amount that she demands regardless if the money is just miniscule or not. It's a matter of principle, you stole someone's money for one, and invested it in a very risky venture that has more chances of ever failing than you winning. So at the end of the day it's only fair she gets the 40 million dollars, the 10k capital isn't yours anyways.

For the second scenario, I would promptly nope the heck out of that partnership regardless if he's become a valuable mentor to me or not. The fact that the mentor, has in no way aided the apprentice towards the 16 million naira and is promptly demanding a 50-50 split just because is a big no-no for me.
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October 26, 2022, 11:12:44 PM
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For the first case, I want to present a thought experiment.

If he loses the money, the girlfriend would ask for $10K.

If he buys something with the money, like a car, etc, the girlfriend would ask for $10k.

I don't see a reason why, other than greed, the girlfriend would ask for more than $10k if what he bought got appreciated to millions.

For example, if you get a loan for $10k and earn millions with it, you only pay back $10k (plus interest, which could apply here as well).

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October 26, 2022, 11:20:02 PM
 #137

These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here
The essence of the first story teaches us the meaning of honesty. Her boyfriend was angry because the man took money by stealing, I think anyone would be angry if the most trusted person did such a disgraceful act.
About his girlfriend demanding 40 million dollars is too much in my opinion, there is no need for him to make that claim because the culprit is his male friend.
Both did it wrongly, the guy took and stole the money from her girlfriend. While the girlfriend takes advantage of what he did and is really asking that much.
Both of them can simply be happy without demanding each other a lot and enjoy the money altogether happily. But because of such demands, that made the gap for both of them.

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October 26, 2022, 11:57:01 PM
 #138

These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here
The essence of the first story teaches us the meaning of honesty. Her boyfriend was angry because the man took money by stealing, I think anyone would be angry if the most trusted person did such a disgraceful act.
About his girlfriend demanding 40 million dollars is too much in my opinion, there is no need for him to make that claim because the culprit is his male friend.
Both did it wrongly, the guy took and stole the money from her girlfriend. While the girlfriend takes advantage of what he did and is really asking that much.
Both of them can simply be happy without demanding each other a lot and enjoy the money altogether happily. But because of such demands, that made the gap for both of them.
Even myself as a boyfriend or the man itself would really be changing up my views into my girlfriend where you could really have those thoughts that shes really that too greedy on asking that much.
Yes, its her money had been used but she dont have the rights on asking on her part since no one knows if he would be lucky enough into that time on making bets.
Stealing 10k is a huge thing which i do understand on girls side but asking that huge partition or part is never been a good sight.
You are just proving that you are greedy and doesnt mind off about in between relationship.

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October 27, 2022, 04:44:41 AM
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Both did it wrongly, the guy took and stole the money from her girlfriend. While the girlfriend takes advantage of what he did and is really asking that much.
Both of them can simply be happy without demanding each other a lot and enjoy the money altogether happily. But because of such demands, that made the gap for both of them.
Even myself as a boyfriend or the man itself would really be changing up my views into my girlfriend where you could really have those thoughts that shes really that too greedy on asking that much.
Yes, its her money had been used but she dont have the rights on asking on her part since no one knows if he would be lucky enough into that time on making bets.
Stealing 10k is a huge thing which i do understand on girls side but asking that huge partition or part is never been a good sight.
You are just proving that you are greedy and doesnt mind off about in between relationship.
She's a gold digger.
If they really are partners in life, they should consider the best thing for both of them. But she's only thinking about herself and doesn't want to let it pass off the mistake of his boyfriend which is also a bad thing.
Weighing things into this situation will depend on both parties and how they're going to address things like what they're facing. Well, it's both win for them as they've got huge money.

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October 27, 2022, 07:19:12 AM
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Both did it wrongly, the guy took and stole the money from her girlfriend. While the girlfriend takes advantage of what he did and is really asking that much.
Both of them can simply be happy without demanding each other a lot and enjoy the money altogether happily. But because of such demands, that made the gap for both of them.
Even myself as a boyfriend or the man itself would really be changing up my views into my girlfriend where you could really have those thoughts that shes really that too greedy on asking that much.
Yes, its her money had been used but she dont have the rights on asking on her part since no one knows if he would be lucky enough into that time on making bets.
Stealing 10k is a huge thing which i do understand on girls side but asking that huge partition or part is never been a good sight.
You are just proving that you are greedy and doesnt mind off about in between relationship.
She's a gold digger.
If they really are partners in life, they should consider the best thing for both of them. But she's only thinking about herself and doesn't want to let it pass off the mistake of his boyfriend which is also a bad thing.
Weighing things into this situation will depend on both parties and how they're going to address things like what they're facing. Well, it's both win for them as they've got huge money.

Sure, the girl exhibits greediness the moment he want his guy to give her a 40% share of his winnings. As a partner, you shouldn't demand like that when you didn't work for it in the first place. You just have to wait and see if your partner will recognize and appreciate you. After all, if they want to give you a portion of his blessings, they will do so, wholeheartedly. It's not something you force and oblige them to do for you.

However, the guys has his fair share of fault too. Him getting the money with no permission is a big red flag as well. If something is not yours, you shouldn't get your hands on it. Otherwise. you are disrespecting the owner, Which in this case is his girlfriend. I believe this couple lack in communication. Or perhaps they already outgrew each other but just don't want to break up because of convenience. Because clearly, respect isn't shown in their relationship given their attitude towards each other: the guy stealing his girlfriend's money and the girl demanding unreasonable amount to his boyfriend.
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October 27, 2022, 08:17:41 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


Honestly the girlfriend wouldn't have had an idea if he had won if he hadn't told her right? Or supposing he had lost, it would have been the 10k she'd have been demanding for right?
 I don't think he needs to be cajoled to giving whatever that suits him, after all it's his choice and his money.

 And as to the case of the apprentice, as long as it wasn't your money I used to play the game, I don't see why I need to split the money with you.

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October 27, 2022, 08:57:55 AM
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Even myself as a boyfriend or the man itself would really be changing up my views into my girlfriend where you could really have those thoughts that shes really that too greedy on asking that much.
Yes, its her money had been used but she dont have the rights on asking on her part since no one knows if he would be lucky enough into that time on making bets.
Stealing 10k is a huge thing which i do understand on girls side but asking that huge partition or part is never been a good sight.
You are just proving that you are greedy and doesnt mind off about in between relationship.

Stealing money is worst IMO, than the girl asking for 50% compensation.  It is just lucky the guy isn't charged with theft.  That is a huge consideration of the girl to the guy.  If I am the girl, the hell with the share, I can just charge him with theft and get the 100% of the winnings since it is my money that guy spent.  It is very possible with the law to get 100% of the winnings since the money used was the girl's money.

Speaking of the relationship, the guy is the first one to breach the trust by stealing the girl's money and as I stated, the guy can be charged with theft.  It is a complete bullcrap that the girl is the evil one here.

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October 27, 2022, 09:14:38 AM
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She's a gold digger.
If they really are partners in life, they should consider the best thing for both of them. But she's only thinking about herself and doesn't want to let it pass off the mistake of his boyfriend which is also a bad thing.
Weighing things into this situation will depend on both parties and how they're going to address things like what they're facing. Well, it's both win for them as they've got huge money.

Sure, the girl exhibits greediness the moment he want his guy to give her a 40% share of his winnings. As a partner, you shouldn't demand like that when you didn't work for it in the first place. You just have to wait and see if your partner will recognize and appreciate you. After all, if they want to give you a portion of his blessings, they will do so, wholeheartedly. It's not something you force and oblige them to do for you.

However, the guys has his fair share of fault too. Him getting the money with no permission is a big red flag as well. If something is not yours, you shouldn't get your hands on it. Otherwise. you are disrespecting the owner, Which in this case is his girlfriend. I believe this couple lack in communication. Or perhaps they already outgrew each other but just don't want to break up because of convenience. Because clearly, respect isn't shown in their relationship given their attitude towards each other: the guy stealing his girlfriend's money and the girl demanding unreasonable amount to his boyfriend.
Yeah, that's why weighing the situation is hard so, whatever happens, they've got all of the decision there. That's why looking at both of them, they have to give each other what they deserve because if we'll analyze it, both has participation and one wouldn't get money without each other's back. Hopefully, the ending of this situation won't affect their relationship and they just need to have an agreement where they'll be contented for each share, whatever the amount will be shared.

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October 27, 2022, 09:42:50 AM
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~ First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? ~

Stealing money from your girlfriend, even though it's only 10,000 naira($23 USD), is no doubt a bad act. It's not a surprise that "the lady felt cheated" when he offered her only 5,000,000 naira after winning 100M. But let's forget about the guy because being such a cheater and also a greedy person, he's not worth our attention. The girl should be happy with taking $11.5k from him, and leave him as soon as possible.

What would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? All the money he won. Only in that case he would rehabilitate himself in her eyes, imo.

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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



In my opinion, arguing with a girl is a very bad idea. 

Girls are very vindictive and can take revenge.  So more, he stole money from the girl, that is, he committed a very bad deed.  Therefore, I would give the girl 40,000,000 dollars and at the same time I would consider that I got off very lightly. 

As for the relationship with the boss, I would treat the boss to a good drink, but I would not give him money.  The boss should have moral satisfaction that he taught his student so well that he wins such a lot of money.

 And moral satisfaction is more valuable than any money

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October 27, 2022, 10:36:15 AM
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What kind of story is this? People always surprise me with their rare stories. Anyway, for that girlfriend, I think she may as well consider not getting anything from his boyfriend and move on with her original money. She need to let go of him because that guy will be more furious against her once that money has been all used. That if she is the usual girl in the romantic movie but if she is not, I think she will gonna fight for her right for that money and might even get everything from that man if she sues him and win the case.

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October 27, 2022, 02:30:44 PM
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What kind of story is this? People always surprise me with their rare stories. Anyway, for that girlfriend, I think she may as well consider not getting anything from his boyfriend and move on with her original money. She need to let go of him because that guy will be more furious against her once that money has been all used. That if she is the usual girl in the romantic movie but if she is not, I think she will gonna fight for her right for that money and might even get everything from that man if she sues him and win the case.
If it is related to gambling, there will probably be a lot of stories that will surprise us because when people start gambling more often, they can do anything to earn money. And that's what often happens around us.

But the man should have known that the money he used resulted from stealing his girlfriend's money, which was not good. It's natural for his girlfriend to be angry, especially after finding out that the guy earned a lot of money and only gave her the initial money.

But for story two, I sometimes think that the apprentice's money is his own money and he doesn't ask anyone else. But his boss asked to split the money into two parts even though he did not participate in the gambling.

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October 27, 2022, 03:53:45 PM
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But for story two, I sometimes think that the apprentice's money is his own money and he doesn't ask anyone else. But his boss asked to split the money into two parts even though he did not participate in the gambling.

That should be the case but the relationship of the apprentice and the boss is special.  It is something like a Master and a slave where the slave has no right to own anything.  Everything the slave(apprentice) has is bound to his Master(Boss) and it is recognized by the community.  It is also the reason why the people around them favor the Boss even though the apprentice won the money.  To think of it according to the tribe law, even though the money comes from the apprentice, prior to their agreement, the money can be considered as a property of the Boss.  Splitting the winnings to 50-50 is a generous act of the boss, by the law of the tribe and agreement the money won should be owned by the Boss.

~ First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? ~

Stealing money from your girlfriend, even though it's only 10,000 naira($23 USD), is no doubt a bad act. It's not a surprise that "the lady felt cheated" when he offered her only 5,000,000 naira after winning 100M. But let's forget about the guy because being such a cheater and also a greedy person, he's not worth our attention. The girl should be happy with taking $11.5k from him, and leave him as soon as possible.
What would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? All the money he won. Only in that case he would rehabilitate himself in her eyes, imo.

Better marry the girl first before giving all the money to her Grin. At least anything they have would be a conjugal property.  Giving all the money to the girl without marrying her first is just nuts since there is a possibility that the girl would leave him after surrendering all the money to her.

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What kind of story is this? People always surprise me with their rare stories. Anyway, for that girlfriend, I think she may as well consider not getting anything from his boyfriend and move on with her original money. She need to let go of him because that guy will be more furious against her once that money has been all used. That if she is the usual girl in the romantic movie but if she is not, I think she will gonna fight for her right for that money and might even get everything from that man if she sues him and win the case.
But why do you think she has to be the one to give up on the money? In the case of slots if you play with the card of someone else the casino can void your winnings, as you are not using your own money and this could lead to players robbing other players.

And this case seems similar to that, the guy used money which did not belong to him by stealing from the girlfriend, so not only the girlfriend deserves half of that money, in my opinion she deserves all the money, so if anything she should sue her boyfriend and try to get all the money from him.

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What kind of story is this? People always surprise me with their rare stories.

These are exceptional, extremely improbable stories that fill the headlines of gambling related sites.

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

You have to think that we are talking about Nigerian currency, Naira, and that the 40 million is about $100k, so it is more understandable. I think if I were the girlfriend, I would report him for theft if he doesn't agree but overall I find it pathetic.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

Well, if I were the apprentice, I'd tell the boss to go fuck himself.

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October 28, 2022, 03:38:08 AM
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What kind of story is this? People always surprise me with their rare stories. Anyway, for that girlfriend, I think she may as well consider not getting anything from his boyfriend and move on with her original money. She need to let go of him because that guy will be more furious against her once that money has been all used. That if she is the usual girl in the romantic movie but if she is not, I think she will gonna fight for her right for that money and might even get everything from that man if she sues him and win the case.
But why do you think she has to be the one to give up on the money? In the case of slots if you play with the card of someone else the casino can void your winnings, as youa re not suing your own money and this could lead to players robbing other players.

And this case seems similar to that, the guy used money which did not belong to him by stealing from the girlfriend, so not only the girlfriend deserves half of that money, in my opinion she deserves all the money, so if anything she should sue her boyfriend and try to get all the money from him.
I do think it would be acting too rash on the part of the girlfriend, if she either sues the boyfriend or request for the whole proceed of win. Only a part should be shared to her, and she should be content with it as there is love in sharing.
What if the boyfriend didn't expose to the girl about the winning, she would probably forgive him for stealing her cash.

As regards the apprentice, if I were the one, the boss has no right to claim what I win from gambling. I would even stop learning under him and find a reasonable venture to invest in.

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October 28, 2022, 06:05:16 AM
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But for story two, I sometimes think that the apprentice's money is his own money and he doesn't ask anyone else. But his boss asked to split the money into two parts even though he did not participate in the gambling.

That should be the case but the relationship of the apprentice and the boss is special.  It is something like a Master and a slave where the slave has no right to own anything.  Everything the slave(apprentice) has is bound to his Master(Boss) and it is recognized by the community.  It is also the reason why the people around them favor the Boss even though the apprentice won the money.  To think of it according to the tribe law, even though the money comes from the apprentice, prior to their agreement, the money can be considered as a property of the Boss.  Splitting the winnings to 50-50 is a generous act of the boss, by the law of the tribe and agreement the money won should be owned by the Boss.
But this boss shouldn't have done that and knew he wasn't giving money or anything that could make the apprentice place a bet and win a lot of money. And he also didn't have to ask for a share by dividing the prize money between the two because it wasn't from his money. And the boss must understand that the money used for gambling comes from the apprentice's money and not from the boss. But that's the reality of this life; weak people have to give in to people who have power without being able to do anything.

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October 28, 2022, 05:28:57 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


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Well, I do believe that if the guy stole the money from his girlfriend to gamble he has a serious addiction problem, so he should at least split the amount won in half and pay the additional 10k he stole. after that he should use the money to do some gambling detox.

As for the guy who decided to split his prize with his boss, he is being robbed. Or either the guy is a retard and the boss was a bloodsucking thief or he has some kind of submissive relation with the boss and doesn't want to let go.
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October 28, 2022, 06:36:44 PM
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But this boss shouldn't have done that and knew he wasn't giving money or anything that could make the apprentice place a bet and win a lot of money. And he also didn't have to ask for a share by dividing the prize money between the two because it wasn't from his money. And the boss must understand that the money used for gambling comes from the apprentice's money and not from the boss. But that's the reality of this life; weak people have to give in to people who have power without being able to do anything.

Definitely under normal circumstances.  But as per the rule of apprenticeship that both parties agree, it was stated that the apprentice has no right to own anything and any property of the apprentice is owned by the boss.  There shouldn't be any argument here if we base the decision on the law of the tribe.  As I stated before, the boss is being generous in this story because he has the right to take all the winnings.   We may call the boss greedy but it was made legal because of the law of apprenticeship of the tribe.

But in a normal situation, disregarding the agreement between the two parties, it is really absurd that the boss will go after the winnings of the apprenticeship.  I pretty much have the same sympathy but things in the story aren't about what we think but about the rule and agreement between the two parties, the boss and the apprenticeship.

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October 28, 2022, 06:52:26 PM
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I do think it would be acting too rash on the part of the girlfriend, if she either sues the boyfriend or request for the whole proceed of win. Only a part should be shared to her, and she should be content with it as there is love in sharing.
What if the boyfriend didn't expose to the girl about the winning, she would probably forgive him for stealing her cash.

As regards the apprentice, if I were the one, the boss has no right to claim what I win from gambling. I would even stop learning under him and find a reasonable venture to invest in.
The Boyfriend only agreed to return the exact amount he stole (10k was stolen and the same 10k returned after such win no). Returning the exact money that was stolen after winning such huge amount isn't good for the fact the girlfriend is aware of how much he won then giving her an amount that will force smile from her face will save a lot of issues. She was obviously requesting 40 million dollars out of her own greed but it can be settled between them has long has the boyfriend offers something attractive enough.

On the other hand the deed has been done but the apprentice might have his reasons for conceding to the pressure from neighbours around. Sometimes publications don't carry the full story but as long as the apprentice left home rich then he lost nothing altogether.
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October 28, 2022, 07:05:23 PM
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She's a gold digger.

She is just demanding what she think is right.

If they really are partners in life, they should consider the best thing for both of them. But she's only thinking about herself and doesn't want to let it pass off the mistake of his boyfriend which is also a bad thing.

How about the guy? What do you call the the guys offense of stealing her girlfriend's money?  We are too quick in judging the girl because of her request but forgot that the guy did a more serious crime.

Weighing things into this situation will depend on both parties and how they're going to address things like what they're facing. Well, it's both win for them as they've got huge money.

Definitely it is not to up to us to solve their dilemmas.  We can just give our opinion and that's it.

I do think it would be acting too rash on the part of the girlfriend, if she either sues the boyfriend or request for the whole proceed of win. Only a part should be shared to her, and she should be content with it as there is love in sharing.
What if the boyfriend didn't expose to the girl about the winning, she would probably forgive him for stealing her cash.

As regards the apprentice, if I were the one, the boss has no right to claim what I win from gambling. I would even stop learning under him and find a reasonable venture to invest in.
The Boyfriend only agreed to return the exact amount he stole (10k was stolen and the same 10k returned after such win no). Returning the exact money that was stolen after winning such huge amount isn't good for the fact the girlfriend is aware of how much he won then giving her an amount that will force smile from her face will save a lot of issues. She was obviously requesting 40 million dollars out of her own greed but it can be settled between them has long has the boyfriend offers something attractive enough.

It was the girl's money that was used to gamble so literally it is the girls winning  Grin.  It is also generous for the girl to ask only 40m and not demanding the whole winnings.
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October 28, 2022, 07:23:25 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfiend?
But in this case, had it been the boyfriend never won this 100million and lost the 10k, would she have requested for 40million? Because thou the money belongs to her, the money would have never multiplied by itself to 100million without the boyfriend taking the initiative to brainstorm and bet, of which he was lucky. So to me, he actually has the right to all the money, because even if the money was borrowed from bank with daily interest, 10k can never accumulate a interest of 40million, not even in the next 200years from now. But normally is good to appreciate, and if I'm the boyfriend, what i will do is give my girlfriend 10million to start business and not 10k.



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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

Second, assumingg you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
From the way this sound, it seems maybe the apprentice was working in a betting shop, and as someone whorking in a betting shop, your noss in a bit has control over your activities, and if as long as the game was bet during his work hours, then he can equally request for a share of the money, but instead of 50/50, for me, i would have been better shared at 40/60, while the owner goes home with the lion share

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October 28, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.


I'm going to look at this from a legal angle. I think maybe the girlfriend is looking or considering the fact that the boyfriend stole the money. Maybe she is could be going for damages or remedy for stealing her money and in court she could get some relief and the court may look at the consideration of trauma or depression that she might have gone through depending on her financial status. So the court will look at the winning money to make judgement.

On the other side too, I read the story and from the story, she forgot the money in the man's house at the shelf. So it may not be that the man stole it if a competent lawyer handles the case to defend the boyfriend, only that he didn't remind the lady of the money but used it for a necessity at the time. It is a matter to be looked into rigorously and going to be an interesting matter to adjudicate upon in court because it has different dimension to it, from forgetting it on the shelf, not stealing it but used it for necessity at the time , not reminding her of forgotten money.


First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?


Well for remedy sake I think she will get something substantial but not $40m. It won't be 60:40 nope. 10% of the winning money will be considerate IMO, that is $10m.



Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.


Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


This is simple. The apprentice didn't borrow the betting money from the boss neither did he borrow it from him so why splitting for 50:50 ? No not fair. This is not a fair decision even from the response from tweeter users responding. The  apprentice can only appreciate his boss with whatever he so wish and if the boss refuse, he can walk away to start learning somewhere else.


Note: For both cases, I didn't consider losing from both bets because that is also possible and if this had happened, the bettor would be left to bear the losing brunt alone, so why even requiring some money from the bettor just because there is a winning. This aspect of my judgement is typical of another judge different from the two above.  Grin Grin

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October 28, 2022, 08:22:59 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?
It will depend on how serious i take her as my girlfriend, if shes good enough to be my wife, i will just marry her and we both spend the money together for the rest of our lives, together with our children of course.

But on the other hand, if shes not a wife material, i will give her her requested 40 million and make sure she is happy before we split, i will give her  the 40 million because if i had lost the game as well as the money, she would have understood with me after explaining to her.

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Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
I will split the money with him if i was still under his custody when i won the money, that is if i am living under his roof.
But in a situation where i am not living with him, hes not the one feeding me, clothing me, taking care of my personal needs, i am not splitting the money him no matter what, if he needs financial help, i will willingly decide whether to help him or not, but him forcing me to split my winning, that will not work.

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November 03, 2022, 08:32:18 AM
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Stealing money from your girlfriend, even though it's only 10,000 naira($23 USD), is no doubt a bad act. It's not a surprise that "the lady felt cheated" when he offered her only 5,000,000 naira after winning 100M. But let's forget about the guy because being such a cheater and also a greedy person, he's not worth our attention. The girl should be happy with taking $11.5k from him, and leave him as soon as possible.
What would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? All the money he won. Only in that case he would rehabilitate himself in her eyes, imo.

Better marry the girl first before giving all the money to her Grin. At least anything they have would be a conjugal property.  Giving all the money to the girl without marrying her first is just nuts since there is a possibility that the girl would leave him after surrendering all the money to her.

Marriage is not something to be f*cking around with. It's a serious thing, maybe the most serious thing in your life. That guy who first stole her money, and then decided to not share the prize 50/50 ... Well, it's better to give him even more money than marry him. I really hope that that girl left him for good. And feel bad that gambling is associated with such pieces of sh*t as the guy in question.

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November 03, 2022, 04:22:49 PM
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Stealing money from your girlfriend, even though it's only 10,000 naira($23 USD), is no doubt a bad act. It's not a surprise that "the lady felt cheated" when he offered her only 5,000,000 naira after winning 100M. But let's forget about the guy because being such a cheater and also a greedy person, he's not worth our attention. The girl should be happy with taking $11.5k from him, and leave him as soon as possible.
What would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? All the money he won. Only in that case he would rehabilitate himself in her eyes, imo.

Better marry the girl first before giving all the money to her Grin. At least anything they have would be a conjugal property.  Giving all the money to the girl without marrying her first is just nuts since there is a possibility that the girl would leave him after surrendering all the money to her.

Marriage is not something to be f*cking around with. It's a serious thing, maybe the most serious thing in your life. That guy who first stole her money, and then decided to not share the prize 50/50 ... Well, it's better to give him even more money than marry him. I really hope that that girl left him for good. And feel bad that gambling is associated with such pieces of sh*t as the guy in question.
Of course, money and life partner are two different things, one is associated with life and the other is necessary in the way of life. But marriage is not a game. The topic of marriage should not have come up in this regard. Moreover, a person who steals money and refuses to share it. It is very clear that the man never be honest. That person regarded as a selfish who can behave differently whenever needed. For that reason, if you have such friends, it is best to avoid them.

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November 04, 2022, 04:44:29 AM
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Stealing money from your girlfriend, even though it's only 10,000 naira($23 USD), is no doubt a bad act. It's not a surprise that "the lady felt cheated" when he offered her only 5,000,000 naira after winning 100M. But let's forget about the guy because being such a cheater and also a greedy person, he's not worth our attention. The girl should be happy with taking $11.5k from him, and leave him as soon as possible.
What would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? All the money he won. Only in that case he would rehabilitate himself in her eyes, imo.

Better marry the girl first before giving all the money to her Grin. At least anything they have would be a conjugal property.  Giving all the money to the girl without marrying her first is just nuts since there is a possibility that the girl would leave him after surrendering all the money to her.

Marriage is not something to be f*cking around with. It's a serious thing, maybe the most serious thing in your life. That guy who first stole her money, and then decided to not share the prize 50/50 ... Well, it's better to give him even more money than marry him. I really hope that that girl left him for good. And feel bad that gambling is associated with such pieces of sh*t as the guy in question.
It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

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November 04, 2022, 04:45:53 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Well for story 1, I think he would only give the $10k to the girlfriend, he wouldn't give her more, because in the case that he was lost, what would he have given the girlfriend? I should have done everything to recover that money and return it to him in full, so it seems to me that it's fine m,, because he took the risk, not her, everything was in his hands, not hers, it was wrong that he took them So, however, he gave them to him, then nothing has happened, in the second case of the boss's story, I didn't understand very well why he has to give the money to the boss, and I wouldn't mind the option of others, for me let them speak what they want.


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November 04, 2022, 10:36:27 AM
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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.
And now the girl knows what her boyfriend is like and hopefully she breaks their relationship and never call him again. Besides, even if it's only a few dollars, stealing is still not a good thing, especially if the girl has a lot of money.

His girlfriend is also not a know-it-all and thanks the girl because she only returned the money she stole without giving any extra money even though she had already won a lot of money. It certainly wasn't appropriate for the girl.

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November 04, 2022, 10:57:22 AM
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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.
And now the girl knows what her boyfriend is like and hopefully she leave their relationship and never call him again. Besides, even if it's only a few dollars, stealing is still not a good thing, especially if the girl has a lot of money.

Her boyfriend is also not an ungrateful person to the girl because he only returns the money he stole without giving any extra money even though he already won a lot of money. It certainly wasn't appropriate for the girl.

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November 04, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
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This guy's actions indicate that he has a serious problem - a gambling addiction.

I think the girl should think carefully about what she is going to do next and I think she should leave him because if he is cheating on her then they will never have a happy life no matter how they distribute the money they win. Money has a way of running out and you never know what this guy will do next time. This whole story could end very differently. If he stole money from her so easily, it suggests that next time he might ask her to take out a loan from the bank. And that is one of the dumbest decisions you can make.

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November 05, 2022, 03:37:08 AM
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This guy's actions indicate that he has a serious problem - a gambling addiction.

I think the girl should think carefully about what she is going to do next and I think she should leave him because if he is cheating on her then they will never have a happy life no matter how they distribute the money they win. Money has a way of running out and you never know what this guy will do next time. This whole story could end very differently. If he stole money from her so easily, it suggests that next time he might ask her to take out a loan from the bank. And that is one of the dumbest decisions you can make.
It could be. Because if he thought about the girl, he wouldn't steal the money but surely he would say if he wanted to borrow it for a while. Although he didn't say he wanted to use the money to gamble, but at least he said he wanted to borrow the money for a while.

And when he manages to win a lot of money from his gambling, he has to tell his girl and ask her not to tell anyone else. And maybe he could marry his girl and buy a house for them to live in. It was bound to have a happy ending like the stories.

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November 05, 2022, 05:55:50 AM
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This guy's actions indicate that he has a serious problem - a gambling addiction.

I think the girl should think carefully about what she is going to do next and I think she should leave him because if he is cheating on her then they will never have a happy life no matter how they distribute the money they win. Money has a way of running out and you never know what this guy will do next time. This whole story could end very differently. If he stole money from her so easily, it suggests that next time he might ask her to take out a loan from the bank. And that is one of the dumbest decisions you can make.
It could be. Because if he thought about the girl, he wouldn't steal the money but surely he would say if he wanted to borrow it for a while. Although he didn't say he wanted to use the money to gamble, but at least he said he wanted to borrow the money for a while.

And when he manages to win a lot of money from his gambling, he has to tell his girl and ask her not to tell anyone else. And maybe he could marry his girl and buy a house for them to live in. It was bound to have a happy ending like the stories.

I don't think the end of this story will be like in fairy tales, unless of course he makes every effort to do so. A man who steals money from his significant other clearly puts gambling ahead of a relationship. It seems to me that if he takes a course of treatment for gambling addiction he will be able to return the girl's trust and make his and her life better. But as we know very often gambling addicts do not realize that they have problems or just do not want to admit it in order not to seem weak in the eyes of others. 

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November 05, 2022, 09:43:07 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



Well for story 1, I think he would only give the $10k to the girlfriend, he wouldn't give her more, because in the case that he was lost, what would he have given the girlfriend? I should have done everything to recover that money and return it to him in full, so it seems to me that it's fine m,, because he took the risk, not her, everything was in his hands, not hers, it was wrong that he took them So, however, he gave them to him, then nothing has happened, in the second case of the boss's story, I didn't understand very well why he has to give the money to the boss, and I wouldn't mind the option of others, for me let them speak what they want.


Yes, but if the scenario is the other way around. most likely the man would not pay back the money he had stolen if he suffered a loss in the end. in the case of the first story, the basic mistake the man made was "stealing". although in fact the money he stole, was his lover's money.
from a legal point of view, that person had committed a fatal mistake by taking something that did not belong to him.
by only returning $10k of the stolen money, the man is completely not responsible for his actions. he ignores something fatal, besides stealing, his relationship with his lover is another gamble.

On the other hand, as you said. in this story, we don't have much more accurate information to judge. which makes me curious, what is the motivation of the boss to ask for half of the money won by his apprentice. apart from these two stories, we are shown with examples the story of how this dispute began, and how greed pervades people who don't actually have full rights to their claims.

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November 06, 2022, 02:47:13 AM
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This guy's actions indicate that he has a serious problem - a gambling addiction.

I think the girl should think carefully about what she is going to do next and I think she should leave him because if he is cheating on her then they will never have a happy life no matter how they distribute the money they win. Money has a way of running out and you never know what this guy will do next time. This whole story could end very differently. If he stole money from her so easily, it suggests that next time he might ask her to take out a loan from the bank. And that is one of the dumbest decisions you can make.
It could be. Because if he thought about the girl, he wouldn't steal the money but surely he would say if he wanted to borrow it for a while. Although he didn't say he wanted to use the money to gamble, but at least he said he wanted to borrow the money for a while.

And when he manages to win a lot of money from his gambling, he has to tell his girl and ask her not to tell anyone else. And maybe he could marry his girl and buy a house for them to live in. It was bound to have a happy ending like the stories.

I don't think the end of this story will be like in fairy tales, unless of course he makes every effort to do so. A man who steals money from his significant other clearly puts gambling ahead of a relationship. It seems to me that if he takes a course of treatment for gambling addiction he will be able to return the girl's trust and make his and her life better. But as we know very often gambling addicts do not realize that they have problems or just do not want to admit it in order not to seem weak in the eyes of others. 
I actually hope their relationship is not continued and the girl can find a better man than her boyfriend because it can happen again in the future. The man seems to have a problem with gambling or maybe he is addicted to gambling because he stole his girl's money just to gamble. After this incident, I feel that the girl will find it difficult to trust the guy again, especially since the guy doesn't share his winnings fairly with the girl. And I think it's also true that gambling addict doesn't realize that they are already a gambling addict or they try to hide it from other people.

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November 06, 2022, 11:36:10 PM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.

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November 07, 2022, 05:12:13 AM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
It should be, but it's different because the girl didn't file a police report about her boyfriend stealing her money and maybe she didn't because seeing the profit she would get from what the guy won, people can change a lot when it comes to money moreover if the value is fantastic or at least it can change life.

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November 07, 2022, 10:46:48 AM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
It should be, but it's different because the girl didn't file a police report about her boyfriend stealing her money and maybe she didn't because seeing the profit she would get from what the guy won, people can change a lot when it comes to money moreover if the value is fantastic or at least it can change life.
After stealing the money, the girl could have informed the police if she wanted but she didn't do that. Here She shows her emotions towards his friend. But the behavior of that friend was not good to me, if he had given half of the percentage of the money, I would have considered him as a honest, but the behavior of that friend is completely different, he can never be a good person. After all it is true that a gambler's life has changed by the winning.

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November 08, 2022, 03:16:58 AM
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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.
And now the girl knows what her boyfriend is like and hopefully she breaks their relationship and never call him again. Besides, even if it's only a few dollars, stealing is still not a good thing, especially if the girl has a lot of money.
actually , She must put an end with the relationship but not with the case she must file against her boyfriend .
stealing is stealing and that is against the law , she only have to prove it happened and then let the court decide.
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His girlfriend is also not a know-it-all and thanks the girl because she only returned the money she stole without giving any extra money even though she had already won a lot of money. It certainly wasn't appropriate for the girl.
maybe He tries to hide the winning , and just happened that it leaked and  the girl find it out.
I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
actually it is not about the money but about the relationship they had before the winning comes.

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November 08, 2022, 05:16:45 AM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
It should be, but it's different because the girl didn't file a police report about her boyfriend stealing her money and maybe she didn't because seeing the profit she would get from what the guy won, people can change a lot when it comes to money moreover if the value is fantastic or at least it can change life.
After stealing the money, the girl could have informed the police if she wanted but she didn't do that. Here She shows her emotions towards his friend. But the behavior of that friend was not good to me, if he had given half of the percentage of the money, I would have considered him as a honest, but the behavior of that friend is completely different, he can never be a good person. After all it is true that a gambler's life has changed by the winning.
If the girl really didn't report the guy to the police, he should be grateful because he didn't have to be involved in the theft case and as a form of gratitude, the guy could give the winning money to the girl. Although not entirely, it can make the girl happy to receive the winning money. But hopefully, the girl and guy's relationship will end because of his dishonesty in stealing her money. And hopefully, the guy also realizes that what he did was wrong so if he still intends to continue his relationship with the girl, he must be able to change for the better.
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So if the guy didn't mention the win and instead just simply gave her the money this would be a non-story...

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November 08, 2022, 01:35:53 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

  - First, the story is very unrealistic, I'm sorry Sir. But anyway, let's assume that it happened, based on the boyfriend's story, the 10k was being used into gambling. That means he has no intention of returning in case the 10k is lost. But the boyfriend won 100M$ in gambling and the girlfriend found out what the boyfreind did, so I think the girlffriend has the right to ask for her share because it was her money that was used.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million nairas on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts which are 50 - 50. As the story goes, the people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to follow. It is important to remember that the money used in betting belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

  - In this situation, the story is messed up, Sorry again Sir. But let's assume again that this is true, of course, if I was the apprentice I wouldn't agree because my apprenticeship is out of my gambling and I used my own money to bet. It doesn't matter if my boss gets angry and removes me from being an apprentice, it's fine because this amount will help a lot.

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November 08, 2022, 01:58:19 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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What kills women faster than money on earth doesn't exist, she even had the courage to threaten to leave the man if he refuse to give her 40M, had it been that game didn't go as predicted, the lady would have wanted to kill the guy for using her money to play the game. The lady could sue him if she want but I'm confident that she would lose the case in a single court visit because there was no agreement on an amount and 5M is a good amount to appreciate her for her kind gesture for allowing him to use the money for 2 days, at least he admitted he took the money. Cool

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

The Boss has no right over the boy's money but an amount could be given as an appreciation, I can see some comments that are bitter, they want to suck and reap the boy for using money that he could have lied of been lost and the highest the boss would do is, he may demand for his money. We should learn to appreciate when people give from something we aren't entitled to because here, it wasn't the boss that played that game.

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November 08, 2022, 03:00:48 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
After reading the story, the guy should've let his girlfriend go because demanding 40 Million is not reasonable enough to threat him that she will leave him if she won't get what she demanded and seriously that will be just a start because she will use the guy's love to take advantage. He should be more thankful than being sorry because that money revealed his girlfriend's character.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

Can't really comment because the story is incomplete. I mean, what training? The apprentice's bet is not connected to his boss, why would he agree to split the money in half? And those people who sided with their boss, do their voice matter? Clearly not.

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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

  - First, the story is very unrealistic, I'm sorry Sir. But anyway, let's assume that it happened, based on the boyfriend's story, the 10k was being used into gambling. That means he has no intention of returning in case the 10k is lost. But the boyfriend won 100M$ in gambling and the girlfriend found out what the boyfreind did, so I think the girlffriend has the right to ask for her share because it was her money that was used.

Yes, no doubt the lady has a right to ask for her share of the money, but not to the extent of requesting for a whopping $40million, because that's actually a huge sum of money even though the money used was hers. But you never can tell, because for her to have requested such an amount of money, there must be a reason behind it not mentioned in that story (i.e either they broke up or had serious Issues before the game was finally confirmed to be winning). Because money is one thing never to underestimate in this life, as when some people have money, then they tend to show their true colour. But in this case, I will still blame the guy for returning just only $10,000 after using it to win $100million, because that is a definition of what I will call "greed"  (I.e a greedy person).

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November 08, 2022, 08:08:50 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

The reasonable amount that the person must give to his girlfriend is $10,000 + some damages (an amount that is less than $10,000). The girlfriend cannot demand around $40 million since her basis for such amount is without merit. Assuming that the person lost the entire amount, then the girlfriend is only entitled to $10,000 + damages. As a form of compromise, the person must at least pay some sort of damages on her part due to the theft that caused.

On the second issue, I would definitely abandon my training. My boss has no authority or whatsoever on the proceeds that I won personally on the gambling website. He is using his authority to abuse his power and demand some sort of funds on his part.

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November 08, 2022, 08:12:07 PM
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We just need to understand how cruel this world can be regardless of being under gambling or not this is what can happen to anyone at any time from anybody, but we need to know our rights, stand by it and not condole intimidation from any means regardless of the person involved, our right must be taken, anyone nthat cheated his fellow to gamble and wins will never makeba progress with it's kind of money because of the pretence it was built upon by riding on others toss to make your own stand, the two stories gives a direct insight on how a gambler could manipulate cheats on others including the casino if possible and how others could oppress a gambler as well.

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November 08, 2022, 09:35:13 PM
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We just need to understand how cruel this world can be regardless of being under gambling or not this is what can happen to anyone at any time from anybody, but we need to know our rights, stand by it and not condole intimidation from any means regardless of the person involved, our right must be taken, anyone nthat cheated his fellow to gamble and wins will never makeba progress with it's kind of money because of the pretence it was built upon by riding on others toss to make your own stand, the two stories gives a direct insight on how a gambler could manipulate cheats on others including the casino if possible and how others could oppress a gambler as well.
Stand when you are in right and also there's no one could really be able to stop you whenever you do make out decisions.You are the ones who do make out such win and there's no right for other people to get
some portion of it which is something that they should'nt really be demanding even if its your girlfriend or other closest people you do have. Stand on your ground and dont let or make yourself do follow
on what other people been saying even if he's your boss, he has no rights on asking for some  part of your winning.Its totally bullshit for someone on considering out on doing so.
You have won that money by your own luck even though you had get or stole some funds but they arent right to say such demand.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.
If this test is somehow taken then various things can be realized. But choosing a life partner with such tests will not be very effective. Because people don't give much priority to the outside world when they go to the casino. If a girlfriend wants to examine her boyfriend when he playing casino. She doesn't get him according to her expectation. Because there are many gambler who are very much addicted about casino but he really loves his girl friend. In this concern addiction create a great problem. But what is seen in story 1 is that the man refuses to pay his girlfriend consciously which really affects his personality negatively.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.

In my perspective, both of them are at fault and surely, that big win wasn't a lucky moment for the both of them because it revealed their true colors and characters. The boyfriend should ought to know that he wouldn't have that kind of winnings if he didn't have the money from his girlfriends, regardless if it's stolen or not, he should know that her girlfriend is at least entitled more than that. And for the girlfriend, she too revealed her true color because she demanded a 40 Million while threatening her boyfriend to leave him if he won't give her that 40M.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.

In my perspective, both of them are at fault and surely, that big win wasn't a lucky moment for the both of them because it revealed their true colors and characters. The boyfriend should ought to know that he wouldn't have that kind of winnings if he didn't have the money from his girlfriends, regardless if it's stolen or not, he should know that her girlfriend is at least entitled more than that. And for the girlfriend, she too revealed her true color because she demanded a 40 Million while threatening her boyfriend to leave him if he won't give her that 40M.
With that kind of girlfriend behavior then it would definitely be leaving her.If she truly loves you then she wont really be demanding that too huge and would just wait up whether you would be giving her some
money or not and not acting like that shes entitled nor have that full rights on asking but well there are some point though since its her money afterall.This thing could really be arranged up
well in negotiation between you two. There's no need on making things getting more bigger but if things gets more messy then it would really be just right on leaving instead.
I cant really let go that huge amount of money on someone who do asking out too much.

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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

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November 10, 2022, 01:18:00 AM
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

People really can change when they see money.

And the amount is relative to each person, so someone might do crazy things for $5, others for $1,000, and others for $1M+.

For most people it's just the amount that matters, not if it's the right thing to do.

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November 10, 2022, 12:57:49 PM
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

People really can change when they see money.

And the amount is relative to each person, so someone might do crazy things for $5, others for $1,000, and others for $1M+.

For most people it's just the amount that matters, not if it's the right thing to do.
And money is an attraction for people to get it even in the wrong way.
We have seen how greedy people are to get money, even by stealing money from their own lovers.
Gambling often makes us think that many criminal cases are like those two happening around us.
And as much as possible, we do not get caught in the same situation as the two cases so we can enjoy the money without anyone knowing where the money comes from.
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

Clearly, respect isn't present in the relationship of the guy who stole money from his girlfriend. They don't know how to communicate well which lead to this scenario. I also don't agree to share an almost half of the chunk of his winnings to his girlfriend. It's still his own doing. He should take the credit and he should be the one to utilize it. But it's also improper to just give back what he technically stole. He could have share a reasonable amount as a way of giving thanks.

Regarding the boss and the employee, the employee could have a gentle-supportive personality in which as much as possible they avoid conflicts. If ever this is really the case, it'll be likely that he'll not enjoy his winning because of people pleasing. It's just really frustrating that some people will take advantage of you just because they are superior and they know you can't really budge.
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

People really can change when they see money.

And the amount is relative to each person, so someone might do crazy things for $5, others for $1,000, and others for $1M+.

For most people it's just the amount that matters, not if it's the right thing to do.
Exactly, money does not create character flaws on a person, it simple reveals them for everyone to see.

And while some are seduced with very low amounts of money there are others  which need way more money to be tempted, but at the end those people still suffer from the same character flaws, this is why it is so difficult to find people in which we can trust completely these days and when you find a person like that you treasure them as they are incredibly rare.

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~Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.
If this test is somehow taken then various things can be realized. But choosing a life partner with such tests will not be very effective. Because people don't give much priority to the outside world when they go to the casino. If a girlfriend wants to examine her boyfriend when he playing casino. She doesn't get him according to her expectation. Because there are many gambler who are very much addicted about casino but he really loves his girl friend. In this concern addiction create a great problem. But what is seen in story 1 is that the man refuses to pay his girlfriend consciously which really affects his personality negatively.

Nope. If you really love your girlfriend, it will be she what you are addicted to, nothing else. You can be addicted to giving her various gifts, to caring about her, to be around her and so on, and definitely not to a thing that puts her on the second place in your life, a thing like gambling.

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~Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.
If this test is somehow taken then various things can be realized. But choosing a life partner with such tests will not be very effective. Because people don't give much priority to the outside world when they go to the casino. If a girlfriend wants to examine her boyfriend when he playing casino. She doesn't get him according to her expectation. Because there are many gambler who are very much addicted about casino but he really loves his girl friend. In this concern addiction create a great problem. But what is seen in story 1 is that the man refuses to pay his girlfriend consciously which really affects his personality negatively.

Nope. If you really love your girlfriend, it will be she what you are addicted to, nothing else. You can be addicted to giving her various gifts, to caring about her, to be around her and so on, and definitely not to a thing that puts her on the second place in your life, a thing like gambling.

I do agree with you. If the boyfriend really loved his girlfriend, he would've called his girlfriend from the very moment he won that kind of amount, treat her in a fancy restaurant and would give her what she deserved because he wouldn't have that kind of money without that money he took secretly in the first place. But no, the boyfriend planned to hide the fact and just want to give her the exact money he took. Anyway, the moral of the story is money will indeed reveal the person's true color.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.

In my perspective, both of them are at fault and surely, that big win wasn't a lucky moment for the both of them because it revealed their true colors and characters. The boyfriend should ought to know that he wouldn't have that kind of winnings if he didn't have the money from his girlfriends, regardless if it's stolen or not, he should know that her girlfriend is at least entitled more than that. And for the girlfriend, she too revealed her true color because she demanded a 40 Million while threatening her boyfriend to leave him if he won't give her that 40M.
With that kind of girlfriend behavior then it would definitely be leaving her.If she truly loves you then she wont really be demanding that too huge and would just wait up whether you would be giving her some
money or not and not acting like that shes entitled nor have that full rights on asking but well there are some point though since its her money afterall.This thing could really be arranged up
well in negotiation between you two. There's no need on making things getting more bigger but if things gets more messy then it would really be just right on leaving instead.
I cant really let go that huge amount of money on someone who do asking out too much.

As I said above, both of them are at fault because on the first place, the man should have avoided an argument if he have just gave his girlfriend the money she deserved. But based on the story shared by the OP, the man has no intention at all in giving his girlfriend a fraction of the money he won and just planned on his own business. Now that his girlfriend knew the story, I'm sure she will be barking until she receive her part. So, I guess they don't really love each other at all because they let this issue to ruin what they had.

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It is better for the girlfriend that she found out what kind of person he is before the relationship became more serious, after all for a marriage to be successful trust is indispensable and the boyfriend showed he is not worthy of it.

Not only he stole from his girlfriend in order to gamble, but after he won he was petty enough to only give back the money he stole, those are not the qualities that anyone is looking for on their long term partner and if anything the girlfriend deserves at minimum half of the money if not even more than that.

It is a gambling related story, and what I like about it is that it shows that gambling can help to reveal what kind of a person you are dealing with. Let's not concentrate on what a piece of sh*t this guy is, let's see what has helped us to discover about it. It's gambling. Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.

In my perspective, both of them are at fault and surely, that big win wasn't a lucky moment for the both of them because it revealed their true colors and characters. The boyfriend should ought to know that he wouldn't have that kind of winnings if he didn't have the money from his girlfriends, regardless if it's stolen or not, he should know that her girlfriend is at least entitled more than that. And for the girlfriend, she too revealed her true color because she demanded a 40 Million while threatening her boyfriend to leave him if he won't give her that 40M.
With that kind of girlfriend behavior then it would definitely be leaving her.If she truly loves you then she wont really be demanding that too huge and would just wait up whether you would be giving her some
money or not and not acting like that shes entitled nor have that full rights on asking but well there are some point though since its her money afterall.This thing could really be arranged up
well in negotiation between you two. There's no need on making things getting more bigger but if things gets more messy then it would really be just right on leaving instead.
I cant really let go that huge amount of money on someone who do asking out too much.

As I said above, both of them are at fault because on the first place, the man should have avoided an argument if he have just gave his girlfriend the money she deserved. But based on the story shared by the OP, the man has no intention at all in giving his girlfriend a fraction of the money he won and just planned on his own business. Now that his girlfriend knew the story, I'm sure she will be barking until she receive her part. So, I guess they don't really love each other at all because they let this issue to ruin what they had.

This is one example of the tragic things that will happen to someone if they can't control themselves and get lost in gambling addiction.
Doing everything including stealing to get gambling satisfaction.
It was so lucky that he was able to win that much, we don't even know how much money the guy spent to end up winning 100 million.
We can only assume with their problems, because we can't really feel what they are feeling.
Of course there may be many other factors that make her boyfriend dare to demand money for his winnings.
From the beginning all these problems were created by that man, that man who ruined everything they had in their relationship with that girlfriend.
I assumed with that kind of money, of course the guy would leave his girlfriend and find another girlfriend.









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November 17, 2022, 06:15:27 PM
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

People really can change when they see money.

And the amount is relative to each person, so someone might do crazy things for $5, others for $1,000, and others for $1M+.

For most people it's just the amount that matters, not if it's the right thing to do.
That is greediness on the part the guy that use his girlfriend's to gamble after winning 100 million he is not willing to part with 40 million that is 40% to 60 %, I think this is fair enough for both parties had it been the guy didn't have access to his girlfriend money the opportunity of winning such a huge amount of money must have elasped invariably lost his chances.
In the case of apprentice and his boss both stories are similar scenario while the former is also very greedy person and not willing to part with the money at a certain ratio having gamble the latter's money, the money should also be shared 40:60 or 50:50.

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November 17, 2022, 09:11:58 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

What these two stories come back to ultimately is trust, intelligence and doing the right thing - rather than gambling. In the first example it appears that the girlfriend was going out with a thief and that should have been enough to end the relationship, getting her money back was a bonus but hopefully some police action was taken with the crime being reported. I doubt there was any way to make up after that point. The second story to me seems like one of two things: either 16 million Naira is not enough to last you very long without a job (or they could have just quit) or the person was naive & foolish to share the money with their boss because they had zero claim to it, maybe they were working with such snakes it would have been more clever not to tell anyone.

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November 17, 2022, 09:42:24 PM
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The guy stealing his girlfriend's money in the story means that the money was collected without the girl's knowledge. If the girl was aware of it, she won't have allowed his boyfriend to gamble with her money. Whatever the guy feels like, is what he will give to the girl. Not 10k or a 40million dollars. Opening up a business for the girl is enough.

About the apprentice and the boss, I won't just listen to him or succumbed to his demands. He should take whatever I give to him. This kind of rubbish will only happen when they see you don't have anyone to speak for you. How can people be this greedy

People really can change when they see money.

And the amount is relative to each person, so someone might do crazy things for $5, others for $1,000, and others for $1M+.

For most people it's just the amount that matters, not if it's the right thing to do.
That is greediness on the part the guy that use his girlfriend's to gamble after winning 100 million he is not willing to part with 40 million that is 40% to 60 %, I think this is fair enough for both parties had it been the guy didn't have access to his girlfriend money the opportunity of winning such a huge amount of money must have elasped invariably lost his chances.
In the case of apprentice and his boss both stories are similar scenario while the former is also very greedy person and not willing to part with the money at a certain ratio having gamble the latter's money, the money should also be shared 40:60 or 50:50.
When you are on gambling addiction and did really come into a point on which you are already stealing someones money even if she's your girlfriend then it is really just right that she would be asking
out for some share considering that its her money had been used for you to bet on.You wont really be able to win up money if you havent used her money which means that it is really just
right but we do see that 40% is that much? Yes on some point but its not really that bad deal off, considering that you had won something on the money that isnt yours.
What if the result turns out to be negative or you had lost that 10k? For sure you would really be fucking up yourself on how you would really be repaying that.
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~Only half-jokingly, I want to say the following: Wanna marry a guy? Go to a casino with him first, and there you'll see what he really is.
If this test is somehow taken then various things can be realized. But choosing a life partner with such tests will not be very effective. Because people don't give much priority to the outside world when they go to the casino. If a girlfriend wants to examine her boyfriend when he playing casino. She doesn't get him according to her expectation. Because there are many gambler who are very much addicted about casino but he really loves his girl friend. In this concern addiction create a great problem. But what is seen in story 1 is that the man refuses to pay his girlfriend consciously which really affects his personality negatively.

Nope. If you really love your girlfriend, it will be she what you are addicted to, nothing else. You can be addicted to giving her various gifts, to caring about her, to be around her and so on, and definitely not to a thing that puts her on the second place in your life, a thing like gambling.

I do agree with you. If the boyfriend really loved his girlfriend, he would've called his girlfriend from the very moment he won that kind of amount, treat her in a fancy restaurant and would give her what she deserved because he wouldn't have that kind of money without that money he took secretly in the first place. But no, the boyfriend planned to hide the fact and just want to give her the exact money he took. Anyway, the moral of the story is money will indeed reveal the person's true color.
Which is by the way the natural reaction when someone earns a big amount when they gamble, the very first thing you want to do is to tell them your success story with someone else because you want to share your happiness with them.

The fact the boyfriend did not do this and instead he decided to hide the whole thing and just return the amount he stole from his girlfriend tell us a lot about him, not only about his feelings for his girlfriend but also how anyone that ever gets to know him should not ever trust him.

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November 18, 2022, 04:08:24 AM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
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November 18, 2022, 04:51:14 AM
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Two interesting stories I would say, but they are funny. Both shows how people change so fast.

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.
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The man shouldn't have stolen the $10,000 USD in the first place. He has gambling problems and he needs help. His girlfriend has the right to demand the money. It was because of her he was able to win the jackpot. She wasn't asking much though. He can still live a luxurious life for the rest of his life. Would say pay the $40 million and move on. Avoid all the problems and issue, and enjoy your life.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?
Not sure why everyone was siding with the boss. He was gambling with his own money. Everything he won, is his. He should have quit the training and started something with all the money he won. Would be making more I bet.

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November 18, 2022, 04:53:23 AM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

Yes, with regard to the first case, if it had been me winning such a large amount, I would have given my girlfriend considerably more, and I think that if the girlfriend takes him to court she will get considerably more than that 10,000. The story says a lot about the guy, first he steals and then he just gives her back what he stole when he has 10 million.

As for the second story, there's no way I'd give my boss that amount, which I can see is about 18,000 dollars. I'd better keep the 36,000 for myself and find another job. I doubt it's even real, the source being a tweet.

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November 18, 2022, 11:49:25 AM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.

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November 19, 2022, 03:44:43 PM
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I think the issue here is that the penalty for stealing depends on what the person did with the stolen goods, but I think it shouldn't.

It shouldn't matter if you put the money in the bin or won the lottery with it, the penalty for stealing it should be the same in both cases.
It should be, but it's different because the girl didn't file a police report about her boyfriend stealing her money and maybe she didn't because seeing the profit she would get from what the guy won, people can change a lot when it comes to money moreover if the value is fantastic or at least it can change life.
After stealing the money, the girl could have informed the police if she wanted but she didn't do that. Here She shows her emotions towards his friend. But the behavior of that friend was not good to me, if he had given half of the percentage of the money, I would have considered him as a honest, but the behavior of that friend is completely different, he can never be a good person. After all it is true that a gambler's life has changed by the winning.

They both did things wrong, both he and she, but the story would have been different if he had lost instead of winning, things were not so good for both of them, well on the one hand it is very bad that he took that money without consent, why, in the event of losing it, how would you have paid for it? this is something that should be considered, and getting $10k is not easy at all, that has to involve a lot of effort and hard work, earning that money means that she has to sacrifice a lot of things and that all the profits go directly to her, and that It's something that sticks, that's what you have to see, even though that didn't happen.

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November 19, 2022, 03:56:24 PM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

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November 19, 2022, 05:03:31 PM
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Regarding the first case, returning at least 100x of borrowed money can be considered as good gesture, otherwise, I don't think it is fair for both parties. Just returning 10k main amount is greedy decision, I also should demand for some extra since he should lose everything with single wrong bet too. Anyways hope it doesn't end in court to reach final decision point according to law.

A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.
Usually people want to spend a lot of money if he win the big amount from betting but in this story the character of that man is different. The man has done two wrong things one is set a bet with stolen money and on the other hand it refused to pay the original owner. But it would have been great story if the person had lost the stolen money. However, a relationship with such a character is more likely to cause harm than good. They should always be avoided.

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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

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November 21, 2022, 03:39:15 AM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.

Money indeed could either bring the best or worst in someone.

It just depends on the person himself on how he would let the money affect his attitude and behavior to the people surrounding him. For an instance, if a man won a lottery, he could either be humble or be boastful depending on his upbringing and his perception in general. Some people tend to be a giver when they have money. While some people tend to be greedy when they have money. It's a matter of morals actually.

Money can do so many things as well. It's really a tool a people can use to improve himself and do good things or the other way around.
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Correct, it is troubling how some people think that having a lot of money is somewhat wrong, as long as you earned your money in a legitimate way then there is nothing wrong with having that money.

The only thing money does is to help you show who you truly are, if you are a bad person then you will use your money to do bad tings, but if you are a good person then that money will help you to do way more things for others than what you could do on your own without money.

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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Money is a neutral thing that does not side with the bad or the good and depends on how we use it.
If we use it for gambling, it will not guarantee us to make money from gambling and if we use the money for trading, there is a possibility that we can make money or profit.
So it all depends on what we do with the money and many people get greedy when it comes to money.
And in that case, the girl could have immediately left her boyfriend even though she only got the stolen money.
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November 25, 2022, 09:10:13 AM
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1. My first question to the Girlfriend is will she had splitted the money had the guy lost?
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Wait what are you talking about? Guy literally stole her money from his girlfriend, so obviously he could have lost them.
It's wasn't a loan. And he should give him ALL the winnings from it back to his "girlfriend".

If you for example have robbed a bank and use the money it to buy some lottery tickets, you have committed at least 2 crimes: robbery and buying those tickets fraudulently.
If you after that tried to go back to the bank and pay what you owe, not only you would go to jail, you would have to pay fines and government would confiscate all the profits you got from your gambling spree.

Obviously you are obligated to give the profits to the one you robbed, or if you don't want to do that government will be happy to confiscate everything and let you pay the fine for your girlfriend. And she didn't even want it all.

Example link: National Lottery scratch card fraud: Men jailed over £4m jackpot claim

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November 26, 2022, 05:30:13 PM
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A wonderful example on how a money would ruin anything. In this story, it is his own girlfriend and the man doesn't even want to share of his winnings and will only want to return what he had taken. It's a reasonable action of course but it's already common sense that he should've give her more especially that he won big time as it's not really a big deal because it is his own girlfriend whom he will share his lifetime with. It's just sad that they might've already departed each other after that incident.

Money is basically an incentive, it can also bring the best of people. Sometimes it brings the worst as well as in this case, but money itself is not really bad or good. It's a tool in the end.
Correct, it is troubling how some people think that having a lot of money is somewhat wrong, as long as you earned your money in a legitimate way then there is nothing wrong with having that money.

The only thing money does is to help you show who you truly are, if you are a bad person then you will use your money to do bad tings, but if you are a good person then that money will help you to do way more things for others than what you could do on your own without money.

There's a saying that money is the root of all evil and in this case, it is really evident that both the boyfriend and girlfriend showed their true colors after knowing the fact that they had more money to spend. The boyfriend just wants to keep the money by himself because he was the one who earned it but and ignored the fact that he won't be in that situation if it is not because of his girlfriend's money. While the girlfriend can't also hide his true colors for demanding a humungous amount after she learned about the money.

I cannot really imagine that they are both in love with each other until that day came to their life and messed things up because of their true colors.

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November 27, 2022, 07:15:03 PM
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There's a saying that money is the root of all evil and in this case, it is really evident that both the boyfriend and girlfriend showed their true colors after knowing the fact that they had more money to spend. The boyfriend just wants to keep the money by himself because he was the one who earned it but and ignored the fact that he won't be in that situation if it is not because of his girlfriend's money. While the girlfriend can't also hide his true colors for demanding a humungous amount after she learned about the money.

I cannot really imagine that they are both in love with each other until that day came to their life and messed things up because of their true colors.
That saying isn't true at all times because there are also people who became evil or can do crimes for other reasons like for example if they love someone else. All of us need a money because it's being used to purchase the thing that we need daily. We shouldn't think negatively about it or overthink about the bad things that can happen later on as it can only make us paranoid.

In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

It's not about the amount given that matters here most but the non challant attitude of giving back in compensation and also appreciation for the opportunity that comes through the money stolen that turns a big win, as a gambler we must learn to caution ourselves, act promptly and accurately, we don't beed to be informed about some behaviors before doing or not doing them as a mature and responsible gambler.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.

In that his cade i think the apprentice is an underaged gambler probably or a timid type that easily got scared by mere words, in other way he may be a newbie as well to gambling to be placed with such a unique lifetime opportunity, another thing is that maybe he has already announced himself about the game to his boss before and after winning which should teach many the lesson on privacy in gambling.

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November 27, 2022, 07:37:20 PM
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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.

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November 27, 2022, 08:06:38 PM
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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.
Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
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November 27, 2022, 08:12:49 PM
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In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
Someone that stole his girlfriend money, he may not be responsible at all and may not even like the girl and decide to just run away and never give the girl anything than the money stolen, or very little amount in addition to the money stolen. But if not to be biased, the guy should at least give the girl an amount that is enough for the girl to appreciate.

Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
What if the court only said that only money that was stolen and the one used for court expenses should be paid and nothing more? In court case, we can not just conclude that one person would win without consulting lawyer to know what could be the possible outcome, while lawyer may not even be favored by the judge.

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November 27, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
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They both did things wrong, both he and she, but the story would have been different if he had lost instead of winning, things were not so good for both of them, well on the one hand it is very bad that he took that money without consent, why, in the event of losing it, how would you have paid for it? this is something that should be considered, and getting $10k is not easy at all, that has to involve a lot of effort and hard work, earning that money means that she has to sacrifice a lot of things and that all the profits go directly to her, and that It's something that sticks, that's what you have to see, even though that didn't happen.


Nope, the girl don't do anything wrong.  He is just claiming the money that is supposed to be hers in the first place.  The one at fault here is the guy.  He steals the girls money.  Then when he won, he get selfish and wanted to keep most of the money by himself.  As far as I understand, the girl has the legal right to own all the money because it was his money that the guy used.  Now the guy is getting people's sentiment by saying he don't want to lose his girlfriend but at the same time does not want to give half of the winnings to the girl.  I think that don't want to lose his girlfriend line is bull****.   If he wants to keep his girl, give her what she demands, and the case would be finished.


In the story, there is nothing wrong on what the girl acted but it's normal that she will ask for something because it was her own money that his boyfriend use. I am sure that if the same scenario happened to us, we will also act the same. If there is wrong here, that must be the guy because he is very greedy.
Someone that stole his girlfriend money, he may not be responsible at all and may not even like the girl and decide to just run away and never give the girl anything than the money stolen, or very little amount in addition to the money stolen. But if not to be biased, the guy should at least give the girl an amount that is enough for the girl to appreciate.

That should be but the guy gets greedy.  If the case came to court, there is a huge chance that the girl will win the case.

Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
What if the court only said that only money that was stolen and the one used for court expenses should be paid and nothing more? In court case, we can not just conclude that one person would win without consulting lawyer to know what could be the possible outcome, while lawyer may not even be favored by the judge.

That is a what-if, but the logic of the guy should have not won the money if the guy doesn't steal the girl's money is a stronger argument.  Besides, the guy would have not won the amount if he has no money to bet at all.  So it is a matter of where thus the fund came from.  More or less the best decision here would be a split but I am leaning toward the possibility of the girl getting all the money.


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November 27, 2022, 11:51:39 PM
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The only person that has some legal right to claim a percentage of the winning is the girlfriend, since her money was stolen to place the bet, she has the right to claim interest and the total amount may become the bases on which the amount in interest will be demanded.
But the boss's and the apprentice's case a totally different and the boss just want to take advantage of the apprentice's inability to defend himself by demanding a 50/50 split of the total amount.
Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
The same can be seen in this way. If the money haven't been stolen, it could've been the same amount. She never think of anything. Just because he have made good return out of the stolen money, claiming it as her money is not fair.

In the second story, the employee is powerless a the boss is making use of his power. This happens everywhere and it is quite rare to experience such a kind of story.

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December 01, 2022, 03:48:39 AM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.
Yes, you're right, the girlfriend or partner you have is a person who can share everything you have in any way, I also think that having a lot of money without having anyone is something much more devastating and sad, and there are people who they have everything but they don't have the most important thing, because they can't even have a company, so for that reason I think that in these cases things can be different, and if you start living with it, well, not only 10 million, but the 100 million will belong to both of them, although sometimes the woman takes advantage of it much more than the man, in the case of work she would not even have paid attention to that boss, there are people in the world who are very clever, and they are the dumbest out there.

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December 01, 2022, 04:03:05 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Gambling is a bad addiction that changes a person's normal behavior and if a gambler becomes completely addicted to gambling, he loses his normal mental balance and will do anything to gamble as seen in this story of a man who staked  an amount against his girlfriend and Placed bets for gambling which is a heinous act. Such incidents ruin the life of a gambler as well as an innocent person.  Which is a heinous crime


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December 01, 2022, 04:48:31 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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I thought things are suppose to be share between you and someone you called a lover? What type of a man will steal from his girlfriend in the first place? I think this person is a gambling addict, he is also a greedy type that is why he only returned the exact amount he stole.

This shows where his girlfriend belongs in the relationship.


Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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In my country most apprentices take money from their boss from time to time, I mean the boss helps their fellow apprentice with what they can afford, food, transport fee and some times even where to stay or live...

If the boss is demanding for a split 50-50 then the boss must have done some part in the apprentice's life.

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December 01, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
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I thought things are suppose to be share between you and someone you called a lover? What type of a man will steal from his girlfriend in the first place? I think this person is a gambling addict, he is also a greedy type that is why he only returned the exact amount he stole.

This shows where his girlfriend belongs in the relationship.

when I saw this story I thought the same thing, if he didn't have money he wouldn't be able to play and consequently he wouldn't be able to win anything, so in this case he should be grateful to his girlfriend and would give her 50% of everything he won because in Just to be fair, he put in a lot of effort to win so it's 50% and his girlfriend put in the money he took to play so it's 50% of the effort his girlfriend made, but this guy is mean, he was selfish and greedy, his girlfriend should leave him and any woman who gets involved with this guy will simply shed a lot of tears, I hope women pay close attention to his face and stay away from him for their own good

In my country most apprentices take money from their boss from time to time, I mean the boss helps their fellow apprentice with what they can afford, food, transport fee and some times even where to stay or live...

If the boss is demanding for a split 50-50 then the boss must have done some part in the apprentice's life.

in my country the labor laws are very clear, when a worker signs a contract he is agreeing with the terms of the contract and at no time should the boss charge money from the employee, this is a crime in my country, if a worker wins the lottery , this is a worker's private life thing, it's his money and the boss shouldn't meddle in the worker's private life and shouldn't charge the worker money for winning the lottery prize, but there are cases in which they are an exception, for example can be given to the case where the boss is a personal friend of the worker and they live together outside of work, in this case if the boss gives the worker money to play in the lottery and the employee wins then he can charge something, or else if in this case the boss lends money to the worker and the worker wins the lottery so the boss can charge something

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December 01, 2022, 10:07:36 AM
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In my country most apprentices take money from their boss from time to time, I mean the boss helps their fellow apprentice with what they can afford, food, transport fee and some times even where to stay or live...

If the boss is demanding for a split 50-50 then the boss must have done some part in the apprentice's life.
When the boss deserve that the apprentice under his control has progressed financially and he has failed to control his greed in that situation and he knows that he can easily get a share of the money from him. Here I think that the man has no right to ask for winning money. Then how can he be a partner. But he may request the apprentice to give him some portion of the money. It depends on the apprentice. People generally cannot control their greed. This is also another proof.

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December 01, 2022, 05:57:24 PM
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Yes in the first story, the girl has the right to demand what is she missing. At the first place the guy took her money without consent and it is tagged as stole money, if it will be in the court I think the girl will win the case even though they are not married but the thing is, it is stolen. In the second story, the boss doesn't have any right not unless it has a another side of the story, but if he just demand to have some because it is his employee then that's what we call, power tripping and it is not good, he can file a case for that since he has a money.
The same can be seen in this way. If the money haven't been stolen, it could've been the same amount. She never think of anything. Just because he have made good return out of the stolen money, claiming it as her money is not fair.

In the second story, the employee is powerless a the boss is making use of his power. This happens everywhere and it is quite rare to experience such a kind of story.

The essence of these two stories is actually not the gambling, Op's story really attracts us to provide conclusions or assumptions. although this story is closely related to gambling. but its essence is money. how money becomes a struggle between lovers, a boss and his apprentice. and what about when greed overtook both parties who won money from the gambling. and how that actually, the girlfriend and the intern boss, have no right to claim money that is not rightfully theirs.

although in this story, both the girlfriend and the boss have their claims. however, basically they are not entitled to ask for half of the winnings they get for whatever reason. so at the core of this story, describes how when greed overwhelms those involved in this story.

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December 02, 2022, 04:09:35 AM
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The essence of these two stories is actually not the gambling, Op's story really attracts us to provide conclusions or assumptions. although this story is closely related to gambling. but its essence is money. how money becomes a struggle between lovers, a boss and his apprentice. and what about when greed overtook both parties who won money from the gambling. and how that actually, the girlfriend and the intern boss, have no right to claim money that is not rightfully theirs.

although in this story, both the girlfriend and the boss have their claims. however, basically they are not entitled to ask for half of the winnings they get for whatever reason. so at the core of this story, describes how when greed overwhelms those involved in this story.
While I think you are right on your assessment that this is more about the money itself than about gambling, I disagree with you on one point, the girlfriend deserves at least half of the money and maybe even more than that, while I agree the boss does not deserves anything.

The girlfriend deserves that much money because it was her money, which was taken without permission by the way, if we were talking about a business started between the two of them, with the girlfriend giving the starting capital while the boyfriend gave his time and hard work we will agree she deserves half of the business because without her money the business would not have started to begin with, so why this logic should not apply to gambling as well?

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December 02, 2022, 04:21:23 AM
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In my country most apprentices take money from their boss from time to time, I mean the boss helps their fellow apprentice with what they can afford, food, transport fee and some times even where to stay or live...

If the boss is demanding for a split 50-50 then the boss must have done some part in the apprentice's life.
When the boss deserve that the apprentice under his control has progressed financially and he has failed to control his greed in that situation and he knows that he can easily get a share of the money from him. Here I think that the man has no right to ask for winning money. Then how can he be a partner. But he may request the apprentice to give him some portion of the money. It depends on the apprentice. People generally cannot control their greed. This is also another proof.
are you guys talking about Gambling here? or other business opportunities about that splitting  part? because I think that apprentice is something that needed to learn and earn but not to take money from the one who thought him because that is different person and what we called capitalist .

but about gambling I believe that if the other one has the capital and the other one who played? then the winning must be split equally as they become industrial partner .

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December 02, 2022, 04:29:23 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend?


the idea of Him taking his girlfriend money without Her consent is already a flag that must be settled first before the dividing of the win.

if I were the girl friend ? I will ask for more than half because it is her money and not the winner .

it comes that He only bet for her and she is the real winner here.

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December 02, 2022, 08:29:59 PM
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The essence of these two stories is actually not the gambling, Op's story really attracts us to provide conclusions or assumptions. although this story is closely related to gambling. but its essence is money. how money becomes a struggle between lovers, a boss and his apprentice. and what about when greed overtook both parties who won money from the gambling. and how that actually, the girlfriend and the intern boss, have no right to claim money that is not rightfully theirs.

although in this story, both the girlfriend and the boss have their claims. however, basically they are not entitled to ask for half of the winnings they get for whatever reason. so at the core of this story, describes how when greed overwhelms those involved in this story.
While I think you are right on your assessment that this is more about the money itself than about gambling, I disagree with you on one point, the girlfriend deserves at least half of the money and maybe even more than that, while I agree the boss does not deserves anything.

The girlfriend deserves that much money because it was her money, which was taken without permission by the way, if we were talking about a business started between the two of them, with the girlfriend giving the starting capital while the boyfriend gave his time and hard work we will agree she deserves half of the business because without her money the business would not have started to begin with, so why this logic should not apply to gambling as well?

First of all what I say is the essence of this story, and I speak in general terms. what you say I totally agree, that the woman should get at least a bigger share of the stolen money then returned by her boyfriend. even so, I don't forget to include, both the girlfriend and the boss have their respective claims on the winnings from the betting results of these two people. although it felt a little off, from the apprentice boss's side. however, we do not have any more detailed information to draw any conclusions from.

I'm not sure a boss would ask for half of his apprentice's bet winnings if he didn't have a hand in his bet. like the first story, only in this case there is no more detailed information.

so, I conclude in general. the essence of this story is the money factor, and because the money won from gambling makes the people involved in this story part of greed.

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December 04, 2022, 07:29:54 PM
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He must be greedy to steal his girl friend for the money. He is lucky to get back the money in gambling. But think in another way, I don’t think the money is equal to one real girl friend. Selling of woman for the money is not the good option. Instead he can use his own health to earn more and make the placement. Because 10k dollars is not the high money to sell his girlfriend. One can earn 10k dollars in a year, if he work continuously like anything. His work is like the maximum money to get his target. The second fun factor is his girlfriend ask his share of 40 million dollars as her share. Their won’t any wrong on the female action from my point. In the second story, he should not share his bet to his boss. If he not shared such things, he never going to forced by the boss.



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December 04, 2022, 09:16:08 PM
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First of all what I say is the essence of this story, and I speak in general terms. what you say I totally agree, that the woman should get at least a bigger share of the stolen money then returned by her boyfriend. even so, I don't forget to include, both the girlfriend and the boss have their respective claims on the winnings from the betting results of these two people. although it felt a little off, from the apprentice boss's side. however, we do not have any more detailed information to draw any conclusions from.

I'm not sure a boss would ask for half of his apprentice's bet winnings if he didn't have a hand in his bet. like the first story, only in this case there is no more detailed information.

so, I conclude in general. the essence of this story is the money factor, and because the money won from gambling makes the people involved in this story part of greed.

On the girl's case I think we both agree that the girl should get at least half of the winnings after returning the stolen money.

While on the boss and apprentice case.. I believe there is a story behind it.  In their village, once a person undergoes an apprenticeship, his boss will be responsible of the apprentice's needs in return for the boss having the authority over the property of the apprentice during his stay.  The bet and winnings happen during the stay of the apprentice under his boss.  In the logical understanding of the agreement between the two.  The money, the apprentice won should be the property of his boss given by the scenario explained earlier.  It is a generous part of the boss to settle 50/50 when in legal terms, it should be the boss's property.

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December 13, 2022, 05:18:33 AM
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In my country most apprentices take money from their boss from time to time, I mean the boss helps their fellow apprentice with what they can afford, food, transport fee and some times even where to stay or live...

If the boss is demanding for a split 50-50 then the boss must have done some part in the apprentice's life.
When the boss deserve that the apprentice under his control has progressed financially and he has failed to control his greed in that situation and he knows that he can easily get a share of the money from him. Here I think that the man has no right to ask for winning money. Then how can he be a partner. But he may request the apprentice to give him some portion of the money. It depends on the apprentice. People generally cannot control their greed. This is also another proof.

When you make a deal with someone according to what they do, you must be very clear about what you do, because otherwise in a case like that, the person who is known as the boss can take advantage of the apprentice, that is something that It almost always happens, although I do not agree with taking advantage of people, another thing is that it is written down, there if there is nothing to do anymore, that is something that no one can interfere with, however this is what a person accepts or not such treatment, and in my case if I were the boss I would not take advantage of people, because that is something that does not look very good, and I would feel bad afterwards, I think that conscience is something that many people cannot do escape, I believe that no one can escape.

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December 13, 2022, 05:43:07 AM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?



I read the story of those two dudes, now about the first story, if you look at the scenario for me they should be 50/50 in the division, why? because the Boyfriend is a gambler, he couldn't gamble the day he won because he didn't have money to gamble, now what he did was he stole his Girlfriend's money, it doesn't say that he will borrow to her money first. He won't win 100M$ if not with the woman's money, or won't win if he didn't get his GF's 10k, so they really should be split.

In the second story, if I'm the apprentice, it's up to me to choose if I continue my training, maybe if I give my boss the spring inside me because it wasn't his money that I used to win the gambling,  My boss's face is thick if he demands me to divide him.

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December 13, 2022, 07:14:16 AM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?


It's a risk I took with her own money without her consent of which she would have asked for a refund if I had loss the money, but because the bet was a success she's now asking for $40M for herself. Now what if I had lose the money would she have decided we split the amount. No! I don't think so. As a girlfriend I can only give her a 10% of the total amount and not an amount she's insist on. She's my girlfriend so invariably some fractions of the 90% left with me will still be spent on her as the relationship advances.

On the second story, I'll say the boos to the apprentice was just greedy and trying to show a bossman supremacy over his apprentice and that is wrong if we are to go by the idea that,"should he the boss had won the 16million would he have given the apprentice a 50-50 share of the money"?   In my opinion I will only give him an appreciable amount so he can use it to acquire some more equipments into the workshop to make work great. But giving him 50-50 I won't do that cause I also have a dream too I won't be an apprentice forever. I'll rather leave his shop and go seek for apprenticeship in another area am not well known and continue my learning.

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December 13, 2022, 07:23:00 AM
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First of all what I say is the essence of this story, and I speak in general terms. what you say I totally agree, that the woman should get at least a bigger share of the stolen money then returned by her boyfriend. even so, I don't forget to include, both the girlfriend and the boss have their respective claims on the winnings from the betting results of these two people. although it felt a little off, from the apprentice boss's side. however, we do not have any more detailed information to draw any conclusions from.

I'm not sure a boss would ask for half of his apprentice's bet winnings if he didn't have a hand in his bet. like the first story, only in this case there is no more detailed information.

so, I conclude in general. the essence of this story is the money factor, and because the money won from gambling makes the people involved in this story part of greed.

On the girl's case I think we both agree that the girl should get at least half of the winnings after returning the stolen money.

While on the boss and apprentice case.. I believe there is a story behind it.  In their village, once a person undergoes an apprenticeship, his boss will be responsible of the apprentice's needs in return for the boss having the authority over the property of the apprentice during his stay.  The bet and winnings happen during the stay of the apprentice under his boss.  In the logical understanding of the agreement between the two.  The money, the apprentice won should be the property of his boss given by the scenario explained earlier.  It is a generous part of the boss to settle 50/50 when in legal terms, it should be the boss's property.

It's really justifiable that the girl would get some of the winnings of his boyfriend because it is her money to begin with. If it weren't for her fund, then the guy won't probably win that kind of amount. It's also a form of token of appreciation for her if ever the guy will give her some wholeheartedly. It shouldn't even be an issue if they are really comfortable with one another and wants each other to be successful in the future together.

Money matters should really be talked upon. Agreement not only verbally, but written with the presence of a lawyer is essential most especially if the amount involved is big and you can't afford to lose it. Money can be a source of greediness so we should always be careful on who we will trust.
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December 13, 2022, 08:03:21 AM
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A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

He stole the money and he didn't collect or borrow the money from her and stolen money is not meant to return, so for him returning the money back to her is good thing. He has a good heart.  Grin but he would have given something nice since the money he stole from her gave him the good luck to win the huge amount.


An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.
50/50? The boss is greedy, and those who said the boy should share the money 50/50 are given injustice and jungle justice. The boy used his personal money to place a bet and won the bet and people are saying he should share it equal with his boss is like the boy has no family members in the world again. That is nonsense.

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December 13, 2022, 11:19:15 AM
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It's really justifiable that the girl would get some of the winnings of his boyfriend because it is her money to begin with. If it weren't for her fund, then the guy won't probably win that kind of amount. It's also a form of token of appreciation for her if ever the guy will give her some wholeheartedly. It shouldn't even be an issue if they are really comfortable with one another and wants each other to be successful in the future together.

Money matters should really be talked upon. Agreement not only verbally, but written with the presence of a lawyer is essential most especially if the amount involved is big and you can't afford to lose it. Money can be a source of greediness so we should always be careful on who we will trust.

The relationship was built on money, not love, and that is exactly what both of them demonstrated, but the lady displayed more greed on her own side. I thought sometimes relationships do lead to marriage if the couples succeed, which can be done through understanding, but this situation begs for separation, however, my stand remains the same, she can't decide what the guy must give her, even if the guy used her money in the first place. What if the guy loses the bet in the first place? She wouldn't have the authority to ask the guy to double the money, and even if a jury is supposed to rule on this case, the guy will win.

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I think it would be better if the girl reconciles with her friend and settles everything the boy steals his money to bet but later returns it. He would not return the money if he wished the girl's friend has been tempted to win more in the bet. And in the second story, the money used for the bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss so he usually has to obey because everyone has supported the boss so he can't do anything alone. They have fear of losing money which keeps them away from this exciting game it is exciting as well as offers golden opportunity to earn lots of money.
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.
Yes, you're right, the girlfriend or partner you have is a person who can share everything you have in any way, I also think that having a lot of money without having anyone is something much more devastating and sad, and there are people who they have everything but they don't have the most important thing, because they can't even have a company, so for that reason I think that in these cases things can be different, and if you start living with it, well, not only 10 million, but the 100 million will belong to both of them, although sometimes the woman takes advantage of it much more than the man, in the case of work she would not even have paid attention to that boss, there are people in the world who are very clever, and they are the dumbest out there.

It's natural for women to take more advantage than men, especially if it's a man she really loves because she will do more for the man she loves. So if he can split the money, much more than before, surely his girl won't let him down especially if she finds out that her boyfriend won huge prize money. His girl would devise a better plan for them and use the money to improve their lives. There's no point in having a lot of money but not having someone or someone else we love because we also won't enjoy that money even if we use it for something we think is valuable.

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To the first story both the boy and girl involved in that betting was very greedy. Firstly boy was greedy to sell his girlfriend for the money and addiction to the gambling such things should not be encouraged at any ideology. Because gambling should encourage based on the fun and not based on big win or addiction. To the second one, the boss should not greedy to stole all the assets of the worker. Because the workers had won only by the hard work and he not plugged the fruit from the some on tree. It was the by route of the owner and not accepted by the workers for sure.
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It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.
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December 17, 2022, 10:44:13 PM
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It's natural for women to take more advantage than men, especially if it's a man she really loves because she will do more for the man she loves. So if he can split the money, much more than before, surely his girl won't let him down especially if she finds out that her boyfriend won huge prize money. His girl would devise a better plan for them and use the money to improve their lives. There's no point in having a lot of money but not having someone or someone else we love because we also won't enjoy that money even if we use it for something we think is valuable.

Lol, men do take advantage of women too.  So it is mutual when it comes to taking advantage.  Both do the same thing, no one is way ahead.  Hopefully these two partner will come to a mutual decision to get married and forget things of the past.  I read the guys don't want to lose the girl, so I think the offer of getting married will be accepted by the girl because the feeling is mutual and the girl will have the right to access the wealth of the guy since I believe it will be a conjugal property let alone there is a story behind that money accrual.

It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.

Better read the story behind it than jump to a conclusion.  You will never know what really happens if you just jump to a conclusion without any kind of background reading. 

The guys is an apprentice and the boss is his master, and the master and apprentice agreement is that the master will cover the apprentice's needs in return for the master owning anything the apprentice accrued during the time of apprenticeship

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December 27, 2022, 01:39:13 PM
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I don't mind giving a generous amount to my girlfriend since, well obviously she's my girlfriend, but also because it was her money that made me win that 100 million. It was plain wrong to just give back 10k. But I think I am not legally obliged to cut 40 million off my prize for her. I think I would only give her 10 million.

In the second story, I won't be giving any amount to my boss. Why should I? Does he have a right to a portion of my prize? I don't think he has. I'd be glad to leave my job of that company and start a business of my own with my winning.
After all, she is my girl who accompanies me every day and if I don't give her the winning money, how can we have a more serious relationship? Marrying her is every couple's dream, especially if we can win a lot of money from gambling and we use that money to marry my girl.

In the second story, I prefer to quit my job and pay the company a fine. After all, the fine wouldn't be as big as the winning money I got. Meanwhile, from the winning money, I can create a new business and maybe even bigger than that company.
Yes, you're right, the girlfriend or partner you have is a person who can share everything you have in any way, I also think that having a lot of money without having anyone is something much more devastating and sad, and there are people who they have everything but they don't have the most important thing, because they can't even have a company, so for that reason I think that in these cases things can be different, and if you start living with it, well, not only 10 million, but the 100 million will belong to both of them, although sometimes the woman takes advantage of it much more than the man, in the case of work she would not even have paid attention to that boss, there are people in the world who are very clever, and they are the dumbest out there.

It's natural for women to take more advantage than men, especially if it's a man she really loves because she will do more for the man she loves. So if he can split the money, much more than before, surely his girl won't let him down especially if she finds out that her boyfriend won huge prize money. His girl would devise a better plan for them and use the money to improve their lives. There's no point in having a lot of money but not having someone or someone else we love because we also won't enjoy that money even if we use it for something we think is valuable.

In that you are absolutely right, it would be very sad to go anywhere and enjoy the great things and pleasures of life but alone, on the other hand, when there is a partner, or you have a family, it is something else, happiness is at best more comprehensive, in matters like this sometimes it is a lottery, both having a good woman, and that the woman helps the man to generate a good life plan, and having the necessary money to be happy at least for the rest of life with that person, and that's where what you say comes in, a woman who helps the man grow together and very quickly, that is actually what is sought with or without money.


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December 27, 2022, 02:32:40 PM
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It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.
Most of boss are greedy and doesn't care with you, they only care with money. If they see fresh money and they had a relation or control over the money, they will trying to get it all, if they're humble they will give you maybe around 10%.

Even you're not work with your boss again, your boss will not happy if you not share the money, it's nothing surprise if your boss might tell to everyone about your bad in order to make the other boss don't want to hire you.

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December 27, 2022, 04:00:13 PM
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Most of boss are greedy and doesn't care with you, they only care with money. If they see fresh money and they had a relation or control over the money, they will trying to get it all, if they're humble they will give you maybe around 10%.

Even you're not work with your boss again, your boss will not happy if you not share the money, it's nothing surprise if your boss might tell to everyone about your bad in order to make the other boss don't want to hire you.

Bosses and workers are all greedy, they want to maximize their money per unit of time.

Workers want to get paid more per hour, and bosses want to reduce costs, it's just natural.

But what we saw here is different, I don't see how it's connected to the activity the worker was doing.

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December 27, 2022, 04:05:08 PM
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The guys is an apprentice and the boss is his master, and the master and apprentice agreement is that the master will cover the apprentice's needs in return for the master owning anything the apprentice accrued during the time of apprenticeship
If there is such a an agreement, then the master is definitely entitled to half of the share of wining amount. And the winner should pay half to his master in keeping with the agreement.

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Most of boss are greedy and doesn't care with you, they only care with money.
Greed is not only in the bosses but in every human being. If you were not greedy for money, would you do any job? of course, Not!

If they see fresh money and they had a relation or control over the money, they will trying to get it all,

I don't know which country you are from, but such an attitude is not acceptable at all. If you work for someone, you are not his/her slave. He/she pays you money for the work you do for him, not alms.

it's nothing surprise if your boss might tell to everyone about your bad in order to make the other boss don't want to hire you.
Is your boss goin to visit company to company just to inform them that they should not hire you. Crazy.

However, Still, your boss cannot stop you from working online. Whatever skill you have, you can work online from their stores.
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December 27, 2022, 04:17:27 PM
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training, or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

In story one, first stealing is wrong. Second, the girlfriend should demand for a percentage maybe 5% - 10% or sue him.
Although she may lose if she cannot prove that the money was stolen.

In story two, the boss has no claim to the money whatsoever.
What would have been his reaction if his apprentice has lost the money.
Would he also share in bearing the loss?
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December 27, 2022, 04:33:28 PM
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It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.

No, OP said it in the first post that the money belonged to the apprentice. In this case it's clear and simple - the boss has nothing to do with the win and he should not get anything from it.
Maybe if I was friends with him I'd give him a tip, buy him a gift or treat him to a meal, but I wouldn't share the win and by law I wouldn't have to.

The first situation is much more difficult as the money was borrowed. Technically the man shouldn't share the win because the girlfriend wasn't even there when he gambled and they had no written agreement before he went gambling.
Being in this situation I'd give her a bonus like return 2 times the borrowed money as a thank you. I'd say she brought me luck. He didn't give her anything and that made her angry.
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These are two gambling stories that are very interesting

Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

*Read the full story here

1 naira = $ 0.02 which means the man won $ 223,898 and I think it is very natural for the woman to ask the man for more money because the initial capital of the man's victory came from the woman. that woman must fight for her rights.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

*Read the different opinions of people here

that boss is a jerk, the apprentice must struggle to enjoy his own money, there is no reason for him to give half of his winnings to the boss where he is an apprentice, it is better for him to just leave the place where he is an apprentice because there are still many jobs he can get at out there.


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December 27, 2022, 06:32:03 PM
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It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.
In fact, it is not appropriate for the boss to ask for a 50-50 win split. What's more, the winnings and the money used belong to the apprentice himself.
If the apprentice loses, is the boss also willing to replace the money used for the bet by 50%.
So it can be concluded that the boss has no right to ask for even a cent of winnings from an apprentice.

Regarding a man who has to give what his girlfriend asks for, of course there is some truth to this because a girlfriend is someone who can accompany and provide support for men.
What's more, a real man must be able to understand and must be able to make his partner happy.

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December 27, 2022, 07:24:18 PM
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1 naira = $ 0.02 which means the man won $ 223,898 and I think it is very natural for the woman to ask the man for more money because the initial capital of the man's victory came from the woman. that woman must fight for her rights.

I also agree with you and if that woman takes the case to court I'm sure that in court it will be the judge's understanding that the man pays the woman 40% - 50% of the earnings and another point is that I think the woman shouldn't be with that anymore man, even though he won, that doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong, which was taking money without authorization and taking it to the game of chance, that's something serious. one day he will take the money to eat and he will put it in the game of chance and he will make everyone starve, when a person starts taking money that does not belong to him and uses it for games of chance then that person is already addicted to games of chance

that boss is a jerk, the apprentice must struggle to enjoy his own money, there is no reason for him to give half of his winnings to the boss where he is an apprentice, it is better for him to just leave the place where he is an apprentice because there are still many jobs he can get at out there.

this employee who agreed to give money to the boss is he guilty, what kind of person can he be so stupid? everyone knows that he has the right to use his own money, the boss has no right to anything, so this employee who gave money to the boss must have some kind of mental illness or else he is someone with a very low level of education because it is not normal that this employee does not know about labor laws and does not know his rights as a citizen and as an employee

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December 28, 2022, 04:01:39 PM
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It is not easy for you to split the win 50-50 with your boss,it is only a greedy boss that will demand for this. Was it his boss that gave him the money in which he used in gambling ? For peace to reign and to continue working with my boss,I might accept it. The boy should give his girlfriend what she demanded for,if not for her money he wouldn't have won the game that is to say that the money brought him good luck.

No, OP said it in the first post that the money belonged to the apprentice. In this case it's clear and simple - the boss has nothing to do with the win and he should not get anything from it.
Maybe if I was friends with him I'd give him a tip, buy him a gift or treat him to a meal, but I wouldn't share the win and by law I wouldn't have to.

The first situation is much more difficult as the money was borrowed. Technically the man shouldn't share the win because the girlfriend wasn't even there when he gambled and they had no written agreement before he went gambling.
Being in this situation I'd give her a bonus like return 2 times the borrowed money as a thank you. I'd say she brought me luck. He didn't give her anything and that made her angry.

I very much agree with this.

The scenario wherein the boss have so much guts to ask for a share when in fact he has no contribution to the bet made by his employee is pure greed. I see no reason why the employee should give him a portion of his prize aside from being given to wholeheartedly and not being told to do so. This is because all of the money that was gambled was the employee's fund in the first place. The boss didn't do something for them to win or whatever. Hence, he has no right to ask for a part of it, what more a half of it knowing he has no direct involvement aside from being the boss.

Regarding the stolen money from partner, it's not right to steal money, but it's not right either to demand a half or more than half of the winnings because you weren't the one who gambled. The much better situation would be given a portion of the winning prize, perhaps twice or thrice the money borrowed as a token. Criticize the act so that respect will still remain, then celebrate together. Since after all, they are still a couple.
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December 28, 2022, 04:36:08 PM
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In fact, it is not appropriate for the boss to ask for a 50-50 win split. What's more, the winnings and the money used belong to the apprentice himself.
If the apprentice loses, is the boss also willing to replace the money used for the bet by 50%.
So it can be concluded that the boss has no right to ask for even a cent of winnings from an apprentice.

That is very true. Only because the apprentice won the money the boss had the guts to ask for a 50% share.
We are sure that if he would have lost a big amount then his boss wouldn't have paid him half of what he has lost.
This is a good example and a really smart idea to show the boss his mistake.

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Regarding a man who has to give what his girlfriend asks for, of course there is some truth to this because a girlfriend is someone who can accompany and provide support for men.
What's more, a real man must be able to understand and must be able to make his partner happy.

It also depends on how close they are in their relationship. I mean people these days are in a casual relationship just for fun.
In this case, why would a person share his winnings with the other.
But if they are indeed very close and comfortable with each other then they won't even hesitate to share the winning amount.
It's just a matter of how good their understanding towards each other is.

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December 28, 2022, 05:34:23 PM
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I very much agree with this.

The scenario wherein the boss have so much guts to ask for a share when in fact he has no contribution to the bet made by his employee is pure greed. I see no reason why the employee should give him a portion of his prize aside from being given to wholeheartedly and not being told to do so. This is because all of the money that was gambled was the employee's fund in the first place. The boss didn't do something for them to win or whatever. Hence, he has no right to ask for a part of it, what more a half of it knowing he has no direct involvement aside from being the boss.

The reason is, in this thread there is no more detailed explanation regarding the boss' claim to the intern. in fact, we cannot draw conclusions based solely on a very short story. it is possible that the boss of the apprentice, had a big hand in the winnings obtained from the gambling won by the apprentice. notwithstanding, that the money at stake was purely that of the apprentice. however, because this story is short and does not provide detailed information.

So, it's hard to judge more objectively.

Regarding the stolen money from partner, it's not right to steal money, but it's not right either to demand a half or more than half of the winnings because you weren't the one who gambled. The much better situation would be given a portion of the winning prize, perhaps twice or thrice the money borrowed as a token. Criticize the act so that respect will still remain, then celebrate together. Since after all, they are still a couple.

Well, this story is a little unique but complicated and not as simple as you say. the problem is, the money used for gambling is the woman's money that the man stole. if only, the man had lost his bet. what is most likely to happen, whether the man will return the money to his girlfriend. we don't know for sure, because, if a gambler who has done everything including stealing for this hobby. chances are, he won't pay it if he loses the bet. but, if we refer to them as lovers. of course the fairest is to share a little more with the woman, because after all without the woman's money. the man will not get his victory.

apart from this story. as I said, that the essence of these two stories is how when greed overpowers the people involved in these stories.

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December 28, 2022, 06:04:07 PM
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The reason is, in this thread there is no more detailed explanation regarding the boss' claim to the intern. in fact, we cannot draw conclusions based solely on a very short story. it is possible that the boss of the apprentice, had a big hand in the winnings obtained from the gambling won by the apprentice. notwithstanding, that the money at stake was purely that of the apprentice. however, because this story is short and does not provide detailed information.

So, it's hard to judge more objectively.

I couldn't agree more. Many questions will be raised up quickly because the story is too short and it's hard to give an opinion as there's so many elements lacking just like what you've said. The whole context will change if there's any words that will be added in the story, so same here, I cannot really judge about who is at fault. Is it the boss or the apprentice? OP should've shared more details regarding the 2nd story.

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December 28, 2022, 09:05:45 PM
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The reason is, in this thread there is no more detailed explanation regarding the boss' claim to the intern. in fact, we cannot draw conclusions based solely on a very short story. it is possible that the boss of the apprentice, had a big hand in the winnings obtained from the gambling won by the apprentice. notwithstanding, that the money at stake was purely that of the apprentice. however, because this story is short and does not provide detailed information.

So, it's hard to judge more objectively.

I couldn't agree more. Many questions will be raised up quickly because the story is too short and it's hard to give an opinion as there's so many elements lacking just like what you've said. The whole context will change if there's any words that will be added in the story, so same here, I cannot really judge about who is at fault. Is it the boss or the apprentice? OP should've shared more details regarding the 2nd story.
You are right on which it is really that hard to make out some suggestions or comments on a situation which it isnt really totally been pointed out on how the heck that boss is really that obliged to get some part of
his employees winning? If we do just simply talk about ethical things then you arent that obliged to get a portion of it even if you are the boss, its none of your business on what are the things that your employee
is dealing with.Even his your boss but you dont have the rights on asking up something which he do owns unless if he do owe some debt or loans then it is really just right to ask for that but
asking for some partition of winning is just really that no sense.

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Regarding the stolen money from partner, it's not right to steal money, but it's not right either to demand a half or more than half of the winnings because you weren't the one who gambled. The much better situation would be given a portion of the winning prize, perhaps twice or thrice the money borrowed as a token. Criticize the act so that respect will still remain, then celebrate together. Since after all, they are still a couple.
When it comes to the first story I think that if things were managed a little bit differently a completely different outcome would have happened, but since this is not the case and most likely they are not a couple anymore due to the lack of trust between each other then the partner which got their money stolen is asking for so much more as a way to get revenge on the dishonest boyfriend, which is why the amount of money she wants is so high despite her contribution to the win.
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December 28, 2022, 10:42:36 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Difficult questions to be answered, because even for law lawyers this is an answer that varies a lot from the personal interpretation of the case and the details of the circumstances.

In the first case, the right thing would be to give all the money to his girlfriend, after all, the man used money that was not his, did not warn (stole) and acted with extreme coldness when trying to return only the 10 thousand trying not to be noticed.
Obviously, the yield of this amount was the result of luck or the man's effort, so maybe he deserves some part, but in my opinion it would be less than 50%.

In the second question, obviously the apprentice should keep 100% of the profits, because he used knowledge he acquired, with his money and effort or luck. The boss doesn't deserve a penny.

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December 30, 2022, 03:54:21 PM
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The reason is, in this thread there is no more detailed explanation regarding the boss' claim to the intern. in fact, we cannot draw conclusions based solely on a very short story. it is possible that the boss of the apprentice, had a big hand in the winnings obtained from the gambling won by the apprentice. notwithstanding, that the money at stake was purely that of the apprentice. however, because this story is short and does not provide detailed information.

So, it's hard to judge more objectively.

I couldn't agree more. Many questions will be raised up quickly because the story is too short and it's hard to give an opinion as there's so many elements lacking just like what you've said. The whole context will change if there's any words that will be added in the story, so same here, I cannot really judge about who is at fault. Is it the boss or the apprentice? OP should've shared more details regarding the 2nd story.
You are right on which it is really that hard to make out some suggestions or comments on a situation which it isnt really totally been pointed out on how the heck that boss is really that obliged to get some part of
his employees winning? If we do just simply talk about ethical things then you arent that obliged to get a portion of it even if you are the boss, its none of your business on what are the things that your employee
is dealing with.Even his your boss but you dont have the rights on asking up something which he do owns unless if he do owe some debt or loans then it is really just right to ask for that but
asking for some partition of winning is just really that no sense.

Seems that way. Reading the story will somehow make your eyebrows raise because it turns out that the boss was quite demanding, bossy and bully in the office especially after the fact that the one who won the bet worth 16 Million Naira is just an apprentice which gave him no choice but to give the boss's demands of 50-50.
Later on, you'd ask yourself some questions because somehow, it's too good to be true and honestly, nobody would demand something like that because the boss wasn't the one who bought the ticket. So, maybe the boss gave the apprentice some idea about his bets which turns out positive that's why a demand came out.

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December 30, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.

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Only the guy in the first scenario is warranted ro pay for the money he was able to fork from another person. To top it all off he literally stole this money to bet which in itself is a problem worthy of another discussion. So by all means and matters the guy is supposed to pay the girlfriend not only for the 10k he stole to bet and win, but for a good portion of his winnings too. The second guy's master is a real dicj if I do say so myself. Especially if the apprenticeship doesn't even involve any form of gambling technicque imparting or lesson-teaching, then he most definitely did not deserve to get a piece of the pie and accept that fact, not to be so indignant and so pompous about how he helped the kid win when there's really no involvement of him in the whole ordeal.

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December 30, 2022, 06:16:08 PM
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Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.
Sometimes, the conversation will be a disaster and a struggle. Especially when it involves a lot of money.
 And many relationships break up because of money-related issues which are very sensitive in some people. It's not certain that they'll always be together. We can't judge here. But did the girl know that the money was used for gambling. but yes or no, at least the guy should give more money than just the money he takes from his girl. If it weren't for the money, he wouldn't have gotten the big prize.


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Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.
Sometimes, the conversation will be a disaster and a struggle. Especially when it involves a lot of money.
 And many relationships break up because of money-related issues which are very sensitive in some people. It's not certain that they'll always be together. We can't judge here. But did the girl know that the money was used for gambling. but yes or no, at least the guy should give more money than just the money he takes from his girl. If it weren't for the money, he wouldn't have gotten the big prize.
Then another question now would be, if the guy had lost the money and told the girl that he gambled with the money and lost it, do you think the girl would have understood and see reasons with the guy.?

Well, all the same, if I was the guy, I will not let the girl know the total amount of money I won, and what ever amount I am comfortable with giving to her is what I would give to her, another thing is that she is happy, and that I would make sure of, it's as simple as that.

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December 30, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
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The reason is, in this thread there is no more detailed explanation regarding the boss' claim to the intern. in fact, we cannot draw conclusions based solely on a very short story. it is possible that the boss of the apprentice, had a big hand in the winnings obtained from the gambling won by the apprentice. notwithstanding, that the money at stake was purely that of the apprentice. however, because this story is short and does not provide detailed information.

So, it's hard to judge more objectively.

I couldn't agree more. Many questions will be raised up quickly because the story is too short and it's hard to give an opinion as there's so many elements lacking just like what you've said. The whole context will change if there's any words that will be added in the story, so same here, I cannot really judge about who is at fault. Is it the boss or the apprentice? OP should've shared more details regarding the 2nd story.
You are right on which it is really that hard to make out some suggestions or comments on a situation which it isnt really totally been pointed out on how the heck that boss is really that obliged to get some part of
his employees winning? If we do just simply talk about ethical things then you arent that obliged to get a portion of it even if you are the boss, its none of your business on what are the things that your employee
is dealing with.Even his your boss but you dont have the rights on asking up something which he do owns unless if he do owe some debt or loans then it is really just right to ask for that but
asking for some partition of winning is just really that no sense.

The reason is, the link that Op shared in the second story was lifted from someone's tweet. what we know, that twitter can only write limitedly. so, there is no information that we can get in more detail. automatically our assessment will never be objective, because if we refer to this story it could involve the sentimental side of the tweet writer who made this news viral.

after all, we cannot verify the legitimacy of the news source. I'm sure the Op just wants to know the respondents from our members in the community. and on the other hand, I guess Op is a pretty smart guy when it comes to creating threads. I think he wants to see various responses from members that involve a psychological side. at least, that's what I caught that way from the Op thread side.

So in essence, the essence of this story. not on the gambling, but what about when money gets involved the people who are involved in the drama of these two stories. and how, when greed involves lovers, the boss and his apprentice. I think the point is like that. even so, if my assumption is different from most people. please understand.

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December 30, 2022, 07:54:06 PM
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Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.
Sometimes, the conversation will be a disaster and a struggle. Especially when it involves a lot of money.
 And many relationships break up because of money-related issues which are very sensitive in some people. It's not certain that they'll always be together. We can't judge here. But did the girl know that the money was used for gambling. but yes or no, at least the guy should give more money than just the money he takes from his girl. If it weren't for the money, he wouldn't have gotten the big prize.
Then another question now would be, if the guy had lost the money and told the girl that he gambled with the money and lost it, do you think the girl would have understood and see reasons with the guy.?

Well, all the same, if I was the guy, I will not let the girl know the total amount of money I won, and what ever amount I am comfortable with giving to her is what I would give to her, another thing is that she is happy, and that I would make sure of, it's as simple as that.
You cant really judge a person on how they would be reacting or something that would be talking or speaking about huge winnings or money.Majority would really be changing up along the way specially if it does involved

money.No matter where you do look then $10k isnt something small which you could really just ignore and do say its okay if your bf or someone do stole in into you.If your boyfriend did tell that he had won
then that anger inside would definitely or normally would really be cooled down which is a normal reaction or emotion to feel on.
Somehow there are people who cant just really be that too confident on telling up things and most of the time they would really be just keeping it a secret for themselves.

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December 31, 2022, 07:47:00 PM
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Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.
Sometimes, the conversation will be a disaster and a struggle. Especially when it involves a lot of money.
 And many relationships break up because of money-related issues which are very sensitive in some people. It's not certain that they'll always be together. We can't judge here. But did the girl know that the money was used for gambling. but yes or no, at least the guy should give more money than just the money he takes from his girl. If it weren't for the money, he wouldn't have gotten the big prize.


As you mention money issues can be a very delicate topic and depending on the personality of the person in question there could be a way to save the situation or not, however since the boyfriend stole from the girlfriend, lied about his profits, gave only the bare minimum back and then she found the truth, then it is a given that the situation is impossible to repair now by having a conversation and most likely it will require the services of lawyers to determine how the money should be distributed.
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Reasonable amount for what? Is there any amount that we can consider reasonable? They are in a relationship right, they are supposed to share those winnings as they both play a big role to get that. They need to talk seriously and that's only the solution.
Sometimes, the conversation will be a disaster and a struggle. Especially when it involves a lot of money.
 And many relationships break up because of money-related issues which are very sensitive in some people. It's not certain that they'll always be together. We can't judge here. But did the girl know that the money was used for gambling. but yes or no, at least the guy should give more money than just the money he takes from his girl. If it weren't for the money, he wouldn't have gotten the big prize.


As you mention money issues can be a very delicate topic and depending on the personality of the person in question there could be a way to save the situation or not, however since the boyfriend stole from the girlfriend, lied about his profits, gave only the bare minimum back and then she found the truth, then it is a given that the situation is impossible to repair now by having a conversation and most likely it will require the services of lawyers to determine how the money should be distributed.
Basically the man is ready to break their relationship starting when he stole the money he used to bet and not because he just returned the bare minimum and not the demand of his girlfriend. Their relationship won't be fix even if the gambler follows the demand of his girlfriend. The trust between the both of them is ruined and their colors where revealed because of money. This kind of stories can happen in real life that's why I personally don't borrow or use other people money in gambling because money is one of the many reason why people break their trust and relationships.
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~snip~
Basically the man is ready to break their relationship starting when he stole the money he used to bet and not because he just returned the bare minimum and not the demand of his girlfriend. Their relationship won't be fix even if the gambler follows the demand of his girlfriend. The trust between the both of them is ruined and their colors where revealed because of money. This kind of stories can happen in real life that's why I personally don't borrow or use other people money in gambling because money is one of the many reason why people break their trust and relationships.

Well if the man didn't mention the gambling part and simply just returned the money he took, no issue would have happened.

Actually he could have added a bit more for interest and she would probably would have been happy about it.

The idea that she would ask for way more because she knows what he did with the money doesn't make too much sense to me. That would be like a bank loan turning into a business investment. In a bank loan you have to return the money no matter what, in a business investment you get exposure to the same risk the company goes. They are different things.

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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.
The teacher could not control his greed because of the high amount of betting reward. He himself had made sure that his apprentice would agree to pay him half of that amount of money. One hand his moral degradation and on the other he exerted pressure on the apprentices. He has completely neglected his responsibilities on this issue. So the apprentice should leave the place quickly. He will not get proper education from that teacher or advisor.

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January 01, 2023, 07:01:16 AM
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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.
The teacher could not control his greed because of the high amount of betting reward. He himself had made sure that his apprentice would agree to pay him half of that amount of money. One hand his moral degradation and on the other he exerted pressure on the apprentices. He has completely neglected his responsibilities on this issue. So the apprentice should leave the place quickly. He will not get proper education from that teacher or advisor.
because sometimes people who are apprentices in a business company, people who are apprentices are too close to their bosses like their own brothers. there are many cases of apprentices in companies who are very close to their superiors when there is anything they help each other.
So, from that case, most likely as I said, the boss dared to ask for a 50/50 share of the winnings of the gamble. Even though the boss can't be like that, like being impolite and having no morals but if the two of them are close then the boss doesn't even think about morals.
very sad to see cases like this happen to apprentices.

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January 01, 2023, 07:21:40 AM
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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.
The teacher could not control his greed because of the high amount of betting reward. He himself had made sure that his apprentice would agree to pay him half of that amount of money. One hand his moral degradation and on the other he exerted pressure on the apprentices. He has completely neglected his responsibilities on this issue. So the apprentice should leave the place quickly. He will not get proper education from that teacher or advisor.

Well, your boss or your teacher is not taking care of you and other students; they are only thinking of your salary or the pay you'll be giving. Sadly, this is really the truth, as some people are doing this because they are only after money. You, as a student, should be aware of this since you are also the one giving salary on this, so you should leave immediately. This kind of people should not be rendering their job as it is unfair to all of us
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January 01, 2023, 07:38:34 AM
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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.
The teacher could not control his greed because of the high amount of betting reward. He himself had made sure that his apprentice would agree to pay him half of that amount of money. One hand his moral degradation and on the other he exerted pressure on the apprentices. He has completely neglected his responsibilities on this issue. So the apprentice should leave the place quickly. He will not get proper education from that teacher or advisor.
because sometimes people who are apprentices in a business company, people who are apprentices are too close to their bosses like their own brothers. there are many cases of apprentices in companies who are very close to their superiors when there is anything they help each other.
So, from that case, most likely as I said, the boss dared to ask for a 50/50 share of the winnings of the gamble. Even though the boss can't be like that, like being impolite and having no morals but if the two of them are close then the boss doesn't even think about morals.
very sad to see cases like this happen to apprentices.
In reality, it's possible to build closeness between apprentice and the boss. However it doesn't mean the boss earned a right to demand a share for his apprentice's winning just because they're close. In this story, people sided with the boss, isn't it strange? Probably if this situation happened to us, we will not share (or atleast hesitate) our winnings to our boss since we won it alone and if worse happened the boss won't shoulder your losses right? Thus it's unfair.

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January 01, 2023, 03:43:20 PM
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Story 1
A man stole his girlfriend's 10k to place a bet. He won 100 million and returned 10k to his girlfriend. His girlfriend is furious and demands 40 million dollars.

Taking someone else's money without permission is bad behavior and it is a crime. Even dating or married people shouldn't take each other's money without their partner's permission. This behavior would be a crime. Compensation for this crime cannot be to repay more of the money taken without permission. We cannot make up for a wrong with another wrong.

Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

Boss practices reminiscent of the conditions of slavery also exist in modern countries, but the behavior in the example is totally unacceptable as it means going too far. If I had earned that money, I would have tried everything not to give the money to my boss.

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January 01, 2023, 03:55:44 PM
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Story 2
An apprentice who won 16 million naira on BET was asked by his boss to split the money into two parts. This 50 - 50. As the story goes, people sided with his boss, and he had no choice but to comply. It's important to remember that the money used to bet belongs to the apprentice, not the boss.

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I'm just wondering about this story number 2, why the boss dares to tell the apprentice to share 50/50 of what he won in gambling when it has nothing to do with what he is studying here?

Why is the apprentice's boss the one who gives him all his fees or expenses every day of his life? is this his relative? does he owe his boss? because if there is none, it means that the apprentice's boss has no right to share what he won.
The teacher could not control his greed because of the high amount of betting reward. He himself had made sure that his apprentice would agree to pay him half of that amount of money. One hand his moral degradation and on the other he exerted pressure on the apprentices. He has completely neglected his responsibilities on this issue. So the apprentice should leave the place quickly. He will not get proper education from that teacher or advisor.
Anyone will get greedy looking money. The same has happened with the boss. He had tried to use his power to take a portion of the winning from the apprentice. This is completely unfair, but people will stand in favour of the boss as they believe in getting granted for the support. The apprentice wasn't able to take this problem with someone, so it is good to move from the place than staying responsible under the boss.
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January 01, 2023, 04:42:42 PM
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Basically the man is ready to break their relationship starting when he stole the money he used to bet and not because he just returned the bare minimum and not the demand of his girlfriend. Their relationship won't be fix even if the gambler follows the demand of his girlfriend. The trust between the both of them is ruined and their colors where revealed because of money. This kind of stories can happen in real life that's why I personally don't borrow or use other people money in gambling because money is one of the many reason why people break their trust and relationships.

Well if the man didn't mention the gambling part and simply just returned the money he took, no issue would have happened.

Actually he could have added a bit more for interest and she would probably would have been happy about it.

The idea that she would ask for way more because she knows what he did with the money doesn't make too much sense to me. That would be like a bank loan turning into a business investment. In a bank loan you have to return the money no matter what, in a business investment you get exposure to the same risk the company goes. They are different things.
But the man had already said that he had won a lot of money gambling and it was normal that his girlfriend demanded more money because, after all, the guy had stolen her girlfriend's money. But his girlfriend has also gone too far to ask for a lot of money to give to her boyfriend. They can discuss this matter carefully without any third party that will interfere in their affairs. But if anger and emotions have played a role in his girlfriend, it will not solve the problem. Considering their relationship status, he could give her more than he already took.
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January 01, 2023, 05:15:24 PM
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he had won a lot of money gambling and it was normal that his girlfriend demanded more money because, after all, the guy had stolen her girlfriend's money. But his girlfriend has also gone too far to ask for a lot of money to give to her boyfriend. They can discuss this matter carefully without any third party that will interfere in their affairs. But if anger and emotions have played a role in his girlfriend, it will not solve the problem. Considering their relationship status, he could give her more than he already took.
Yeah in my opinion also, that girl friend deserved more than 50% share as the whole betting money was belonging to her and only the knowledge and actions were from the boyfriend side. Even stealing seems like a wired part here, in some culture, that money is common for both of them as they are into a relationship either legally or not. So, we may leave off that stealing part.

Because, if that betting came to the knowledge of girlfriend before placed; I am sure she should not have allowed to place at first hand; only men could take that kind of brave decision and that boyfriend took that bet for all 10k because that was not his money (fully or partially or by any tradition). So, I guess that stealing got big role in that case but needs to be forget when sharing the profits. Really a peculiar case!
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January 01, 2023, 06:42:57 PM
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~snip~
Basically the man is ready to break their relationship starting when he stole the money he used to bet and not because he just returned the bare minimum and not the demand of his girlfriend. Their relationship won't be fix even if the gambler follows the demand of his girlfriend. The trust between the both of them is ruined and their colors where revealed because of money. This kind of stories can happen in real life that's why I personally don't borrow or use other people money in gambling because money is one of the many reason why people break their trust and relationships.

Well if the man didn't mention the gambling part and simply just returned the money he took, no issue would have happened.

Actually he could have added a bit more for interest and she would probably would have been happy about it.

The idea that she would ask for way more because she knows what he did with the money doesn't make too much sense to me. That would be like a bank loan turning into a business investment. In a bank loan you have to return the money no matter what, in a business investment you get exposure to the same risk the company goes. They are different things.

Do you think that relationships can be built on deception?

Personally, I think that people who love each other should trust each other completely and not hide anything from each other.

This guy was very lucky to win a lot of money, and he could have lost all of it. None of us know where that would have led. But if the girl had told him that he had stolen money from her, he probably would have ended up in jail.

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January 01, 2023, 07:11:46 PM
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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Difficult questions to be answered, because even for law lawyers this is an answer that varies a lot from the personal interpretation of the case and the details of the circumstances.

In the first case, the right thing would be to give all the money to his girlfriend, after all, the man used money that was not his, did not warn (stole) and acted with extreme coldness when trying to return only the 10 thousand trying not to be noticed.
Obviously, the yield of this amount was the result of luck or the man's effort, so maybe he deserves some part, but in my opinion it would be less than 50%.

I agree with you on this, since the money is from his GF's purse the winning proceeds should be 100% given to his gf, the girl is a little generous because she only asked for 50%.

In the second question, obviously the apprentice should keep 100% of the profits, because he used knowledge he acquired, with his money and effort or luck. The boss doesn't deserve a penny.


There is an agreement between the apprentice and the boss where the boss will take care of the apprentice's needs while the boss has the authority over all the assets acquired by the apprentice during the apprenticeship.  That agreement made the boss have the right to the lottery wins, this time the boss is actually being generous.

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First, in your opinion, what would be a reasonable amount to give his girlfriend? Second, assuming you were the apprentice in the story, would you abandon your training or would you have given in to the pressure to split the money with your boss?

Difficult questions to be answered, because even for law lawyers this is an answer that varies a lot from the personal interpretation of the case and the details of the circumstances.

In the first case, the right thing would be to give all the money to his girlfriend, after all, the man used money that was not his, did not warn (stole) and acted with extreme coldness when trying to return only the 10 thousand trying not to be noticed.
Obviously, the yield of this amount was the result of luck or the man's effort, so maybe he deserves some part, but in my opinion it would be less than 50%.

I agree with you on this, since the money is from his GF's purse the winning proceeds should be 100% given to his gf, the girl is a little generous because she only asked for 50%.

In the second question, obviously the apprentice should keep 100% of the profits, because he used knowledge he acquired, with his money and effort or luck. The boss doesn't deserve a penny.


There is an agreement between the apprentice and the boss where the boss will take care of the apprentice's needs while the boss has the authority over all the assets acquired by the apprentice during the apprenticeship.  That agreement made the boss have the right to the lottery wins, this time the boss is actually being generous.

in first case I would never put my g/f on the bet and in second case I would be fair in splitting the money
if the money belong to my employee - I would not claim it.

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