2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions

[FanEagle]

The thing about movies like the whale is that acting is not just about being able to portray someone, it's about making the people believe that you are that person, and that's the hard part. This dude gained so much weight, and they still had to put so much prosthetics on him to make him look even fatter, and he did convinced everyone that he was having this trouble.

Let's realize for a moment that he was very fit, go back to the mummy and you will see how fit he was, so he had to gain some weight but he was already "not fit" before any of this as well, so he knows a bit about this pain. All of which combined with his acting skills made sure that he actually provided some amazing talent and skill to portray someone. Christian Bale is famous for this as well, losing and gaining weight is not simple, it's morphing your body to the role, it's an amazing dedication and definitely deserves awards.

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[Rikafip]

But the film was a box office disappointment, and despite a budget of close to $40 million it could only gross around $10 million. Now I want to see whether the jury has courage to select a film, that has been rejected by the audience.

I don't think that box office success is high on the Academy priority list when choosing winner for the best picture award. Its more about lobbying than anything else tbh, and every once in a while the best movie in selection gets the award.

I haven't watched the movie yet but I watched the trailer and I really think he deserve the Oscar I am sure that I will be placing a bet on that one.

How can you say the he deserves Oscar based on on a 2 minutes trailer, and without seeing at least few other performances from other actors? I haven't watched the The Whale yet as it hasn't arrived in my country, but from the performances I have seen so far, Colin Farrell has been the best. But in the end it all depends whether odds given are good enough to place the bet (if odds end up being like 1.2-1.3 on Brendan Fraser, I will pass).

Assuming that he won the Oscar, wouldn't that be awesome as it's been around 20 years when he do his last movie and I really admire his movie when I was a little bit young.

While its been that long from his last big success, he made a couple of  movies in recent years, its just that none of them were very good and he didn't have a lead role.

[Sithara007]

But the film was a box office disappointment, and despite a budget of close to $40 million it could only gross around $10 million. Now I want to see whether the jury has courage to select a film, that has been rejected by the audience.

I don't think that box office success is high on the Academy priority list when choosing winner for the best picture award. Its more about lobbying than anything else tbh, and every once in a while the best movie in selection gets the award.

If you conduct a public poll between The Fabelmans and Avatar: The Way of Water, then 99% of the people are going to chose the latter option. But then the opinions of Oscar jury is so different from that of the ordinary people. They won't even consider a film such as Avatar for any of their awards (despite collecting more than $1 billion around the world till now).

The first part (Avatar 1) back in 2009 won the Oscar for Best Visual Effects. Also, it won the Oscars for Best Art Direction (Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg) and Best Cinematography (Mauro Fiore).

This time also, it may win the same award (Oscar for Best Visual Effects), but I will be terribly disappointed if it is the only award this film wins at Oscars.

[uneng]

The thing about movies like the whale is that acting is not just about being able to portray someone, it's about making the people believe that you are that person, and that's the hard part. This dude gained so much weight, and they still had to put so much prosthetics on him to make him look even fatter, and he did convinced everyone that he was having this trouble.

Let's realize for a moment that he was very fit, go back to the mummy and you will see how fit he was, so he had to gain some weight but he was already "not fit" before any of this as well, so he knows a bit about this pain. All of which combined with his acting skills made sure that he actually provided some amazing talent and skill to portray someone. Christian Bale is famous for this as well, losing and gaining weight is not simple, it's morphing your body to the role, it's an amazing dedication and definitely deserves awards.

I think Brendan Fraser is a good pick on this award, because besides the movie, his real life story is being shared intensily on the internet. I didn't go deeper, but I heard he had many difficults in his career and personal life during the last decades, after The Mummy movies. I believe he had or still has depression and fights against it with all his effort. I suppose they will give him the Best Actor Oscar because somehow he portrays the pain he felt in real life on this movie.

[bittraffic]

But the film was a box office disappointment, and despite a budget of close to $40 million it could only gross around $10 million. Now I want to see whether the jury has courage to select a film, that has been rejected by the audience.

I don't think that box office success is high on the Academy priority list when choosing winner for the best picture award. Its more about lobbying than anything else tbh, and every once in a while the best movie in selection gets the award.

If you conduct a public poll between The Fabelmans and Avatar: The Way of Water, then 99% of the people are going to chose the latter option. But then the opinions of Oscar jury is so different from that of the ordinary people. They won't even consider a film such as Avatar for any of their awards (despite collecting more than $1 billion around the world till now).

The first part (Avatar 1) back in 2009 won the Oscar for Best Visual Effects. Also, it won the Oscars for Best Art Direction (Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg) and Best Cinematography (Mauro Fiore).

This time also, it may win the same award (Oscar for Best Visual Effects), but I will be terribly disappointed if it is the only award this film wins at Oscars.

The best Visual effect will be for Avatar. Seem very easy for that movie to get such an award. Somehow I feel not very fair since all the effects are computer generated. For me, Avatar 2 has a terrible story that could go up to Avatar 10. They made a new watermen race in that world and a new messiah who could be the girl in Avatar 3.

Oscar Jury has different criteria and of course, those juries know how to scrutinize a film and will look at the film from different angles. And they may prefer the film that features it all for awards that are given more importance like Best Actor, Actress, and Director.

[Sithara007]

The best Visual effect will be for Avatar. Seem very easy for that movie to get such an award. Somehow I feel not very fair since all the effects are computer generated. For me, Avatar 2 has a terrible story that could go up to Avatar 10. They made a new watermen race in that world and a new messiah who could be the girl in Avatar 3.

Oscar Jury has different criteria and of course, those juries know how to scrutinize a film and will look at the film from different angles. And they may prefer the film that features it all for awards that are given more importance like Best Actor, Actress, and Director.

Avatar in all probability will win the Oscar for Best Visual Effects once more. And it is not fair to say that they don't deserve it as the visuals are all computer generated. In that case what prevents the other films from doing the same? I watched Avatar 2 a few days ago in IMAX and I was astounded with the visual effects. It is not just the software, but the skills that go in from the technicians as well. Anyway, I am more interested in the award for best picture. I don't think that it will go to Avatar 2, since the jury is biased against it.

[beerlover]

But the film was a box office disappointment, and despite a budget of close to $40 million it could only gross around $10 million. Now I want to see whether the jury has courage to select a film, that has been rejected by the audience.

I don't think that box office success is high on the Academy priority list when choosing winner for the best picture award. Its more about lobbying than anything else tbh, and every once in a while the best movie in selection gets the award.

It is so unimportant that I have seen movies not even be on 100+ screenings that got awards, not the best picture maybe but other stuff. The reason? As long as it goes through the whole award shows before the Oscars, and gets good grades, that means it's already "shown" to the world, like you have been to Cannes? That's fine, and you had a legal way of saying it was public? Like maybe 50 screenings on New York and 50 in some other state etc? Like Hollywood maybe? Then you should be fine.

Obviously it's much better if you just go around those and then have like 3000+ places air it, that would be much better, but how much viewed has absolutely zero connection to getting an award.

[klidex]

Well, if you're right, sometimes there are things that children can see at a certain moment and we can't have enough speed to capture them, in fact, in my case I have to be very aware of my son, well With his mother he began to watch things from horror movies and that caused him terrible damage, because he has to sleep accompanied, of course he did that while I was not there, because we are no longer with my child's mother, currently I have another wife and a baby, and to remove that fear from my 7-year-old son is very difficult, it has cost me a lot, so sometimes because of someone's ignorance the children suffer.

Kids of these days are more smarter than the kids of our time - they know movies - songs - season and to my surprise they like Korean, Turkish and other languages series - thanks to the subtitle and other language translation that people get a chance to know about these dramas and plays and movies as well

Yes, it is true that today's children prefer to watch action films and some Korean drama films compared to animated cartoons or the like, they even memorize the names of the actors in these films.
I also wonder why today's children prefer this to playing with friends their own age and even worse when they are watching the film they even forget the time and forget they have to study, it is very different from when I was a child, it was even more it's nice to meet and play together playing silly games.
As for betting on the Oscar award, I am not at all interested.

[SquallLeonhart]

But the film was a box office disappointment, and despite a budget of close to $40 million it could only gross around $10 million. Now I want to see whether the jury has courage to select a film, that has been rejected by the audience.

I don't think that box office success is high on the Academy priority list when choosing winner for the best picture award. Its more about lobbying than anything else tbh, and every once in a while the best movie in selection gets the award.

It is so unimportant that I have seen movies not even be on 100+ screenings that got awards, not the best picture maybe but other stuff. The reason? As long as it goes through the whole award shows before the Oscars, and gets good grades, that means it's already "shown" to the world, like you have been to Cannes? That's fine, and you had a legal way of saying it was public? Like maybe 50 screenings on New York and 50 in some other state etc? Like Hollywood maybe? Then you should be fine.

Obviously it's much better if you just go around those and then have like 3000+ places air it, that would be much better, but how much viewed has absolutely zero connection to getting an award.

The sad thing is that most of the world do not watch these movies after the Oscars, and even though box office results do not matter in awarding any movie if they are good, it is also quite obvious that there would be a lot more people watching it AFTER one of them wins it. Like let's assume the fabelmans win it like everyone assumes they would, I guarantee you 100% that it would have a higher box office just a few weeks later, there will be rush to movies to watch it all over again.

The only difference is that it wasn't the box office that give it the award, but it would be award that gives it the box office and that is an inevitable reality without a doubt.

[decodx]

The best Visual effect will be for Avatar. Seem very easy for that movie to get such an award. Somehow I feel not very fair since all the effects are computer generated. For me, Avatar 2 has a terrible story that could go up to Avatar 10. They made a new watermen race in that world and a new messiah who could be the girl in Avatar 3.

Oscar Jury has different criteria and of course, those juries know how to scrutinize a film and will look at the film from different angles. And they may prefer the film that features it all for awards that are given more importance like Best Actor, Actress, and Director.

Avatar in all probability will win the Oscar for Best Visual Effects once more. And it is not fair to say that they don't deserve it as the visuals are all computer generated. In that case what prevents the other films from doing the same? I watched Avatar 2 a few days ago in IMAX and I was astounded with the visual effects. It is not just the software, but the skills that go in from the technicians as well. Anyway, I am more interested in the award for best picture. I don't think that it will go to Avatar 2, since the jury is biased against it.

It's true that movies like Avatar have a strong advantage in the visual effects category at awards shows like the Oscars. These movies often rely heavily on computer-generated imagery (CGI) to create their fantastical worlds and characters, which are often impressive and visually stunning. However, it's important to note that creating high-quality visual effects requires a lot of skill and expertise. It's a highly technical and challenging field, and I think all the artists and technicians who work in it deserve recognition for their hard work and talent.

That being said, I think that the Top Gun: Maverick will also have a pretty good chance at taking home an Academy Award for Best Visual Effects. The movie has some really impressive CGI, especially when it comes to the aerial dogfighting scenes. I think it might be a close race between these two for which one wins the category, but my money is on Top Gun: Maverick.

[klidex]

Yes, it is true that today's children prefer to watch action films and some Korean drama films compared to animated cartoons or the like, they even memorize the names of the actors in these films.
I also wonder why today's children prefer this to playing with friends their own age and even worse when they are watching the film they even forget the time and forget they have to study, it is very different from when I was a child, it was even more it's nice to meet and play together playing silly games.
As for betting on the Oscar award, I am not at all interested.

The BTS - is the biggest crush of the girls in all the region.
There is BTS army and they are huge fans of them. These were the roommates. and now they rule the world. What a life these guys lived.

It seems that if this is done continuously and more and more teenagers are following it, I am sure that in the next few years the quality of thinking in adolescents will decrease.
However, a teenager must have a developed mind and look for broad insights instead of being a big fan of one band or film actor.
In fact, it's okay to follow or be a fan, but there must still be limits, only naturally and not making it the most important thing.

[Distinctin]

The only thing that interests me about the Oscars is whether public interest in this ceremony will hit a new bottom. As far as I understand, last year the interest was at historically low levels. In fact, I poorly understand the meaning of this prize, since on the one hand it is subjective, and on the other hand it is determined by a cabal, let's say people whose opinion I don't give a damn about.

last time oscar was a pure drama  -- i hope this time they would not do the kind of slapping drama again
among the list of movies I haven't watched even the single one- I am going to watch all of them and will bring forth my suggestions

That was funny really but at the same time I felt it was very inappropriate as it could ruin the Oscar awarding, and it really did. Hopefully, everything will fall in its right place this time. Well, those movies are quite impressive and interesting. I just have to finish them watching before I can actually cast my vote.

[Viscore]

Well, if you're right, sometimes there are things that children can see at a certain moment and we can't have enough speed to capture them, in fact, in my case I have to be very aware of my son, well With his mother he began to watch things from horror movies and that caused him terrible damage, because he has to sleep accompanied, of course he did that while I was not there, because we are no longer with my child's mother, currently I have another wife and a baby, and to remove that fear from my 7-year-old son is very difficult, it has cost me a lot, so sometimes because of someone's ignorance the children suffer.

Kids of these days are more smarter than the kids of our time - they know movies - songs - season and to my surprise they like Korean, Turkish and other languages series - thanks to the subtitle and other language translation that people get a chance to know about these dramas and plays and movies as well

Yes, it is true that today's children prefer to watch action films and some Korean drama films compared to animated cartoons or the like, they even memorize the names of the actors in these films.
I also wonder why today's children prefer this to playing with friends their own age and even worse when they are watching the film they even forget the time and forget they have to study, it is very different from when I was a child, it was even more it's nice to meet and play together playing silly games.
As for betting on the Oscar award, I am not at all interested.

Kids these days have different way of thinking compared to us before. And their interest might have also been shifted like they focus more on drama and horror movies, gone are the days where cartoons and comedy are the kids favorites. However, I haven’t been interested in Oscar’s betting even before, although I love to watch some of these movies but I have not thinking betting on them.

[bitgov]

Kids these days have different way of thinking compared to us before. And their interest might have also been shifted like they focus more on drama and horror movies, gone are the days where cartoons and comedy are the kids favorites. However, I haven’t been interested in Oscar’s betting even before, although I love to watch some of these movies but I have not thinking betting on them.

People and kids are not much interested in award these days - they are more interested in games and action movies.
And we were more interested in awards. The trend is changing. I remember we were so interested in awards and we knew who got what award.

[darewaller]

The best Visual effect will be for Avatar. Seem very easy for that movie to get such an award. Somehow I feel not very fair since all the effects are computer generated. For me, Avatar 2 has a terrible story that could go up to Avatar 10. They made a new watermen race in that world and a new messiah who could be the girl in Avatar 3.

Oscar Jury has different criteria and of course, those juries know how to scrutinize a film and will look at the film from different angles. And they may prefer the film that features it all for awards that are given more importance like Best Actor, Actress, and Director.

Avatar in all probability will win the Oscar for Best Visual Effects once more. And it is not fair to say that they don't deserve it as the visuals are all computer generated. In that case what prevents the other films from doing the same? I watched Avatar 2 a few days ago in IMAX and I was astounded with the visual effects. It is not just the software, but the skills that go in from the technicians as well. Anyway, I am more interested in the award for best picture. I don't think that it will go to Avatar 2, since the jury is biased against it.

It's true that movies like Avatar have a strong advantage in the visual effects category at awards shows like the Oscars. These movies often rely heavily on computer-generated imagery (CGI) to create their fantastical worlds and characters, which are often impressive and visually stunning. However, it's important to note that creating high-quality visual effects requires a lot of skill and expertise. It's a highly technical and challenging field, and I think all the artists and technicians who work in it deserve recognition for their hard work and talent.

That being said, I think that the Top Gun: Maverick will also have a pretty good chance at taking home an Academy Award for Best Visual Effects. The movie has some really impressive CGI, especially when it comes to the aerial dogfighting scenes. I think it might be a close race between these two for which one wins the category, but my money is on Top Gun: Maverick.

The visual effects is not really a category for the movie itself but for the company that did the CGI and that's still good but that doesn't tell much about the movie. No matter how much it was pushed and pushed and pushed on marketing, even didn't let End Game to have the highest box office and put first Avatar on theatres again just for another run in order to get the top box office to make more marketing on the second one, I have to say Avatar will never be a good "movie".

It is about improvement of the cinematic technology and nothing more. For acting, script, and everything else, even producing, its not the best movie at all, its just there to flex on the tech they can use to make a movie and that's it.

[bitgov]

It's true that movies like Avatar have a strong advantage in the visual effects category at awards shows like the Oscars. These movies often rely heavily on
The visual effects is not really a category for the movie itself but for the company that did the CGI and that's still good but that doesn't tell much about the movie. No matter how much it was pushed and pushed and pushed on marketing, even didn't let End Game to have the highest box office and put first Avatar on theatres again just for another run in order to get the top box office to make more marketing on the second one, I have to say Avatar will never be a good "movie".

It is about improvement of the cinematic technology and nothing more. For acting, script, and everything else, even producing, its not the best movie at all, its just there to flex on the tech they can use to make a movie and that's it.

In my opinion the most controversial movie goes to OSCAR - one of the movies JOYLAND which is a Pakistani movies and is banned in Pakistan and nominated for Oscar while people of Pakistan are unable to watch it on the big screen here.

[dezoel]

The difference is that we are not really interested in things taking 3 hours when it can be in 3 minutes. Sure amazing movies such as Lord of the Rings would have been awesome even this day, because it shows not just clear and understandable story telling, and won 11 oscars if I am not wrong, but also it was packed with amazing scenes back to back.

However, if you want to talk about some feelings for 3 hours, I am sorry but it is harder to get box office. Still not impossible, maybe after they get an Oscar they could get high box office, but do not expect beforehand. Now we have this invention called smart phones that show me more in 30 minutes than I can see in 100 hours of award movies.

So, those tiktoks and reels may not be good for us because we are older, but kids aged 20-22 and under grew up with them, and that is all they knew and that is why they have much much lower attention span, and we had less than our parents, soon we won't even have movies that are 3 hours long but 30 minutes long on digital platforms like netflix and disney.

[alegotardo]

The difference is that we are not really interested in things taking 3 hours when it can be in 3 minutes. Sure amazing movies such as Lord of the Rings would have been awesome even this day, because it shows not just clear and understandable story telling, and won 11 oscars if I am not wrong, but also it was packed with amazing scenes back to back.

However, if you want to talk about some feelings for 3 hours, I am sorry but it is harder to get box office. Still not impossible, maybe after they get an Oscar they could get high box office, but do not expect beforehand. Now we have this invention called smart phones that show me more in 30 minutes than I can see in 100 hours of award movies.

So, those tiktoks and reels may not be good for us because we are older, but kids aged 20-22 and under grew up with them, and that is all they knew and that is why they have much much lower attention span, and we had less than our parents, soon we won't even have movies that are 3 hours long but 30 minutes long on digital platforms like netflix and disney.

You said very interesting... smartphones.

In the past people still left the house a lot to go to the movies, their intention was to spend an entire afternoon or evening away from home.
So, it's okay if they have to wait half an hour in line for popcorn, another half hour to get in and three hours of movies, because then they'll still spend a few more hours at some restaurant or bar with friends.

Nowadays people don't go out to see movies in theaters anymore (not like they used to), they prefer to watch 40 minutes of an episode of their favorite series, or 5 minutes of a youtuber's daily story, or 5 seconds of a funny video of a tiktoker.

The way we have fun in front of a screen has changed a lot and movies need to adapt to this new reality.

[bittraffic]

The difference is that we are not really interested in things taking 3 hours when it can be in 3 minutes. Sure amazing movies such as Lord of the Rings would have been awesome even this day, because it shows not just clear and understandable story telling, and won 11 oscars if I am not wrong, but also it was packed with amazing scenes back to back.

However, if you want to talk about some feelings for 3 hours, I am sorry but it is harder to get box office. Still not impossible, maybe after they get an Oscar they could get high box office, but do not expect beforehand. Now we have this invention called smart phones that show me more in 30 minutes than I can see in 100 hours of award movies.

So, those tiktoks and reels may not be good for us because we are older, but kids aged 20-22 and under grew up with them, and that is all they knew and that is why they have much much lower attention span, and we had less than our parents, soon we won't even have movies that are 3 hours long but 30 minutes long on digital platforms like netflix and disney.

You said very interesting... smartphones.

In the past people still left the house a lot to go to the movies, their intention was to spend an entire afternoon or evening away from home.
So, it's okay if they have to wait half an hour in line for popcorn, another half hour to get in and three hours of movies, because then they'll still spend a few more hours at some restaurant or bar with friends.

Nowadays people don't go out to see movies in theaters anymore (not like they used to), they prefer to watch 40 minutes of an episode of their favorite series, or 5 minutes of a youtuber's daily story, or 5 seconds of a funny video of a tiktoker.

The way we have fun in front of a screen has changed a lot and movies need to adapt to this new reality.

Yet 20 years from now the generation today who spend 5 minutes on youtube stories will still think their generation is better than the old ones who spend hours just lining up to a popcorn stall and watching a 3-hour movie. Give them an interesting story that affects and relates to thier lives and they will surely watch them and even talk about it in the pub.

A country that is just devastated by war will have a generation that will most likely be interested in watching war movies and talking about wars.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's true that movies like Avatar have a strong advantage in the visual effects category at awards shows like the Oscars. These movies often rely heavily on
The visual effects is not really a category for the movie itself but for the company that did the CGI and that's still good but that doesn't tell much about the movie. No matter how much it was pushed and pushed and pushed on marketing, even didn't let End Game to have the highest box office and put first Avatar on theatres again just for another run in order to get the top box office to make more marketing on the second one, I have to say Avatar will never be a good "movie".

It is about improvement of the cinematic technology and nothing more. For acting, script, and everything else, even producing, its not the best movie at all, its just there to flex on the tech they can use to make a movie and that's it.

In my opinion the most controversial movie goes to OSCAR - one of the movies JOYLAND which is a Pakistani movies and is banned in Pakistan and nominated for Oscar while people of Pakistan are unable to watch it on the big screen here.

Have you seen Avatar yet? I haven't seen that movie, I can't deny that I started to watch it but I only saw it for 5 minutes and it didn't catch my attention, of course, I'll be honest, I haven't gone to see it in the cinema, I was watching it in a downloaded version and of course I saw it with good quality and it had very poor sound quality, it's something that I didn't think, besides, it was a pirated version that they downloaded and I didn't like it because it brought a lot of advertising, and that advertising was mostly from a rather scam casino, and that It was something that really overwhelmed my patience, I didn't like it at all, so I'd rather see it in the movies, but at this point I think it's no longer in the movies.