2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions

[dezoel]

Yet 20 years from now the generation today who spend 5 minutes on youtube stories will still think their generation is better than the old ones who spend hours just lining up to a popcorn stall and watching a 3-hour movie. Give them an interesting story that affects and relates to thier lives and they will surely watch them and even talk about it in the pub.

A country that is just devastated by war will have a generation that will most likely be interested in watching war movies and talking about wars.

I wouldn't say that one generation is better than the other, it's all based on what people want and everyone has their right to want whatever they want. Me and my spouse are from the generation that goes to a cinema and wait in line to buy a popcorn and spend a night basically fully on that movie, whereas if you are at home, even if you spend 3 hours watching something on Netflix, you have more than 3 hours and that means it just won't work for you, won't be enough, you need to do something else as well.

But, that doesn't mean kids who like to watch 5-10 episodes of their favourite show that night is any better or worse, it's just preference and that's fine, that's good, we need all kinds of options available to us.

[TimeTeller]

Kids these days have different way of thinking compared to us before. And their interest might have also been shifted like they focus more on drama and horror movies, gone are the days where cartoons and comedy are the kids favorites. However, I haven’t been interested in Oscar’s betting even before, although I love to watch some of these movies but I have not thinking betting on them.

People and kids are not much interested in award these days - they are more interested in games and action movies.
And we were more interested in awards. The trend is changing. I remember we were so interested in awards and we knew who got what award.

I believe, most people are not really interested when it comes to betting like this kind of global award.
Though of course, we are interested to see those movies in the list like the Avatar as it grossed billion dollars in the cinemas.
Not many people are into betting as this kind of award is usually dependent on the judges' mood and criteria.
And the public doesn't know about such considerations, we are more on which movies are worth spending money inside the cinema.
Some of us are still interested on who gets what? But to the extent of betting on this, I believe not are keen on doing so.

[jakelyson]

Kids these days have different way of thinking compared to us before. And their interest might have also been shifted like they focus more on drama and horror movies, gone are the days where cartoons and comedy are the kids favorites. However, I haven’t been interested in Oscar’s betting even before, although I love to watch some of these movies but I have not thinking betting on them.

People and kids are not much interested in award these days - they are more interested in games and action movies.
And we were more interested in awards. The trend is changing. I remember we were so interested in awards and we knew who got what award.

I believe, most people are not really interested when it comes to betting like this kind of global award.
Though of course, we are interested to see those movies in the list like the Avatar as it grossed billion dollars in the cinemas.
Not many people are into betting as this kind of award is usually dependent on the judges' mood and criteria.
And the public doesn't know about such considerations, we are more on which movies are worth spending money inside the cinema.
Some of us are still interested on who gets what? But to the extent of betting on this, I believe not are keen on doing so.

Movie critics have different tastes actually. What is good to normal viewers is bad to them and vice versa. I am usually intrigued by the winners of the awards before and would watch them. Mostly, I find the winners of Best Picture boring. That is why I would be a bad bettor if I will bet on this kind of betting. I would bet on the picture I enjoyed and that would not win because critics like boring and too much talking stuff.

The way we have fun in front of a screen has changed a lot and movies need to adapt to this new reality.

It already has. That is why we have so many streaming services right now and Oscar also includes movies that are not out in cinemas but only played in stream services. I still enjoy watching movies on the big screen. The experience is just different. I also enjoy watching movies on the big tv screen, at home, and relaxed. It's just about the mood.

[STT]

I believe, most people are not really interested when it comes to betting like this kind of global award.

The main interest is monetary because even a nomination will secure their next film.  Its not the award by itself per say but the overall ladder up it gives in the wider game, their entire career will be enhanced by this one day they receive this award.  Its hard to do anything wrong after you receive an Oscar, Will Smith smacking someone in the chops doesnt matter as much as he got the award later on; he will be fine because his films win awards so he is set for life and so is everyone on his film set.
  Win an Oscar and you are immortal, be popular in a film 30 years ago and you might still struggle to get a part in an advert when you are old its unfortunate that there are plenty of out of work actors who struggle despite prior success; its not an easy business despite appearances.

[bbc.reporter]

Kids these days have different way of thinking compared to us before. And their interest might have also been shifted like they focus more on drama and horror movies, gone are the days where cartoons and comedy are the kids favorites. However, I haven’t been interested in Oscar’s betting even before, although I love to watch some of these movies but I have not thinking betting on them.

People and kids are not much interested in award these days - they are more interested in games and action movies.
And we were more interested in awards. The trend is changing. I remember we were so interested in awards and we knew who got what award.

I very much agree! However, for people who still love movies and who also like to gamble for entertainment, what is the best form of entertainment if it is not entertainment betting hehehe.

The categories for best supporting actor and best supporting actress have also been created. I am not quite certain why Ke Huy Wuan is the very big favorite. I speculate this will change after the Golden Globe awards and the official announcement for nominations.

Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All at Once Wins - 1.36
Brendan Gleeson - The Banshees of Inisherin Wins - 3.24
Paul Dano - The Fabelmans Wins - 4.50
Ben Whishaw - Women Talking Wins - 7.00
Brian Tyree Henry - Causeway Wins - 10

Source https://coinplay.com/line/tv-games/2374009-academy-awards-2023-special-bets/154787178-academy-awards-2023-best-supporting-actor-winner



Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin Wins - 2.50
Jessie Buckley - Women Talking Wins - 2.62
Claire Foy - Women Talking Wins - 5.50
Jamie Lee Curtis - Everything Everywhere All at Once Wins - 6?00
Hong Chau - The Whale Wins - 7.50

Source https://coinplay.com/line/tv-games/2374009-academy-awards-2023-special-bets/154787179-academy-awards-2023-best-supporting-actress-winner


In any case, this is the predictions in Gold Derby. I am also not quite certain why many Gold Derby followers consider Everything Everywhere all at Once a very good movie. I might watch it again hehe. I was not very moved or entertained. I reckon the concept was a something that we have witnessed in other movies already.

https://www.goldderby.com/odds/combined-odds/oscars-nominations-2023-predictions/

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm currently on vacation and getting caught up on all the latest and greatest movies that have gone on this past year.  Tomorrow I've got a ticket for a $7 entry to Wakanda Forever (the nice lazy boy seats) and plan on going to see Avatar the day after or the following.  Plan on watching The Whale really soon as well.  Certainly will have to put the Spielberg movie on my watch list as well.  Will report back for my picks!

[Sithara007]

I'm currently on vacation and getting caught up on all the latest and greatest movies that have gone on this past year.  Tomorrow I've got a ticket for a $7 entry to Wakanda Forever (the nice lazy boy seats) and plan on going to see Avatar the day after or the following.  Plan on watching The Whale really soon as well.  Certainly will have to put the Spielberg movie on my watch list as well.  Will report back for my picks!

Never thought that the ticket prices here in India would be higher than those in the United States. If I want to watch Avatar: The Way of Water, then I need to spend around $12 to purchase tickets for 3D IMAX. Cheaper options are also available, but those are 2D or 3D without IMAX. Cheapest tickets are available for around $2.50. BTW, this movie has already collected more than $2 billion from all around the world and may end up overtaking Avatar 1 by today. At this point, Avatar 1 has a gross collection of $2,922 million compared to $2,797 million for Avatar 2.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In particular, I know that many are fans of many movies but I have something in mind, some films or the ones that most promise have disappointed me, I don't know if it is because of their content or because of the way they write now, there is no longer something extraordinary As there are some things that can be left out things that are not so flashy.

Science fiction movies are the ones that I like the most, but to be honest, none for me have a level that I say impressed me, in the thread before this I remember that many were criticizing the Matrix movie a lot, but to be honest I thought it was a very interesting movie.

[Rikafip]

I am not quite certain why Ke Huy Wuan is the very big favorite. I speculate this will change after the Golden Globe awards and the official announcement for nominations.

Looking at those odds, I don't understand either. At the moment, it is a bad bad and for me personally at least two actors were better in their roles (Brendan Gleeson and Barry Keoghan for Banshees a The only thing I can think of why everyone is pushing "Everything Everywhere All at Once" is because it has certain amount of wokeness, and we know that Academia loves these kind of things. Anyway, 1.36 on him is not worth the risk, looks like this year I will go for surprises and not the favorites.

Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin Wins - 2.50

This wouldn't be a bad bet imho, she did a good job there.

[Finestream]

In particular, I know that many are fans of many movies but I have something in mind, some films or the ones that most promise have disappointed me, I don't know if it is because of their content or because of the way they write now, there is no longer something extraordinary As there are some things that can be left out things that are not so flashy.

Science fiction movies are the ones that I like the most, but to be honest, none for me have a level that I say impressed me, in the thread before this I remember that many were criticizing the Matrix movie a lot, but to be honest I thought it was a very interesting movie.

The movies right now are already much different than before. I cannot say that today are more interesting and more appealing to watch, as I have bigger interest too way back then. Also, maybe I was just stuck with more jobs right now that I have no time for me time and unable to watch fine movies while relaxing. But, hopefully I can watch these nominated movies and I’ll get back then as to what movie made me totally captured.

[KTChampions]

In particular, I know that many are fans of many movies but I have something in mind, some films or the ones that most promise have disappointed me, I don't know if it is because of their content or because of the way they write now, there is no longer something extraordinary As there are some things that can be left out things that are not so flashy.

Science fiction movies are the ones that I like the most, but to be honest, none for me have a level that I say impressed me, in the thread before this I remember that many were criticizing the Matrix movie a lot, but to be honest I thought it was a very interesting movie.

Maybe the problem is not in the films, but in the fact that you have become older and there is little to surprise you? At least that's what I think about myself. For example, the last two parts of the Alien fandom are great (I love sci-fi too) but the experience of watching Alien: Covenant will never compare to watching the first part (which looks ridiculous right now) simply because it's not new anymore.

[Viscore]

Yet 20 years from now the generation today who spend 5 minutes on youtube stories will still think their generation is better than the old ones who spend hours just lining up to a popcorn stall and watching a 3-hour movie. Give them an interesting story that affects and relates to thier lives and they will surely watch them and even talk about it in the pub.

A country that is just devastated by war will have a generation that will most likely be interested in watching war movies and talking about wars.

I wouldn't say that one generation is better than the other, it's all based on what people want and everyone has their right to want whatever they want. Me and my spouse are from the generation that goes to a cinema and wait in line to buy a popcorn and spend a night basically fully on that movie, whereas if you are at home, even if you spend 3 hours watching something on Netflix, you have more than 3 hours and that means it just won't work for you, won't be enough, you need to do something else as well.

But, that doesn't mean kids who like to watch 5-10 episodes of their favourite show that night is any better or worse, it's just preference and that's fine, that's good, we need all kinds of options available to us.

Also, we can’t expect for the different generations to have the same interests and preferences too. Today’s generation are more likely interested in technology and everything about robotics and computer. But I don’t see it working for me either. I still prefer those old type movies rather than seeing these modern ones.

[molsewid]

In particular, I know that many are fans of many movies but I have something in mind, some films or the ones that most promise have disappointed me, I don't know if it is because of their content or because of the way they write now, there is no longer something extraordinary As there are some things that can be left out things that are not so flashy.

Science fiction movies are the ones that I like the most, but to be honest, none for me have a level that I say impressed me, in the thread before this I remember that many were criticizing the Matrix movie a lot, but to be honest I thought it was a very interesting movie.

Maybe because it depends in you're own perspective. You might want something that others cannot, it is just that maybe when they conduct the survey or something to come up with the tally there are some people who chooses the same thing. It really depends on how we interpret and expect things, I like technology, CGI etc as well but I am not into marvels nor Avatar that is on the list.

[AmoreJaz]

In particular, I know that many are fans of many movies but I have something in mind, some films or the ones that most promise have disappointed me, I don't know if it is because of their content or because of the way they write now, there is no longer something extraordinary As there are some things that can be left out things that are not so flashy.

Science fiction movies are the ones that I like the most, but to be honest, none for me have a level that I say impressed me, in the thread before this I remember that many were criticizing the Matrix movie a lot, but to be honest I thought it was a very interesting movie.

Maybe because it depends in you're own perspective. You might want something that others cannot, it is just that maybe when they conduct the survey or something to come up with the tally there are some people who chooses the same thing. It really depends on how we interpret and expect things, I like technology, CGI etc as well but I am not into marvels nor Avatar that is on the list.

indeed! each one of us has different perspectives towards movies. most of the time, we also have different understanding on how good or great a movie is. and with that, you can understand that judges of this certain event have their own criteria as well. and that is why it is hard to bet on this kind of betting lines. there is no defined criteria because it depends on how the judges are evaluating  a certain category. much better to sit back and relax and enjoy the movie.

[alegotardo]

Maybe because it depends in you're own perspective. You might want something that others cannot, it is just that maybe when they conduct the survey or something to come up with the tally there are some people who chooses the same thing. It really depends on how we interpret and expect things, I like technology, CGI etc as well but I am not into marvels nor Avatar that is on the list.

At least the films are well categorized, so it is a little less difficult to choose the best ones, as the organization already places in each category the best judges who have more affinity and taste for the category they are judging.
Voting is usually direct. The Academy has about 6 to 7 thousand voting members and each one of them can only vote in the area of their specialty.
Obviously, for best film, best actor, and others where it is not possible to have this clear separation, it gets a little more complicated and this is perhaps the reason for so much controversy in which "average" films end up being nominated instead of others that most of the public might consider to be better.

Still about the best film, for those who don't know how the voting works, I explain:

All judges organize a ranking of what their favorite movies are, they don't just choose, but several and put their preference from the first to the last.
The film that occupies the first place in more than 50% of the lists is declared the winner, but if none of them manages to be at the top of the rank of at least half of the voters, a system of exclusion of the least voted appears as an alternative tiebreaker.

[Chikito]

indeed! each one of us has different perspectives towards movies. most of the time, we also have different understanding on how good or great a movie is. and with that, you can understand that judges of this certain event have their own criteria as well. and that is why it is hard to bet on this kind of betting lines. there is no defined criteria because it depends on how the judges are evaluating  a certain category. much better to sit back and relax and enjoy the movie.

Many factors calculate are not by the viewer or movie watcher but by the Jury in accordance with their expectation. overall, they will look at the technical and deep storyline of the movie, which sometimes we think is good but the jury says is nothing. So if someone wants to bet in oscar so just make it entertainment, don't take it too seriously, just use small money, maybe for example if you have fund $155 on-site use at least $5, so if you lose not as expectation you will not too disappointing.

[Rikafip]

At least the films are well categorized, so it is a little less difficult to choose the best ones, as the organization already places in each category the best judges who have more affinity and taste for the category they are judging.
Voting is usually direct. The Academy has about 6 to 7 thousand voting members and each one of them can only vote in the area of their specialty.

I just wanna further explain this is true only for nomination process, in which editors nominate editors, cinematographers nominate fellow cinematographers etc. For an actual Oscar awards, all members can vote in all categories, no matter the branches. And yeah, Academy now has more than 10k members.

Obviously, for best film, best actor, and others where it is not possible to have this clear separation, it gets a little more complicated and this is perhaps the reason for so much controversy in which "average" films end up being nominated instead of others that most of the public might consider to be better.

This is true only for the Best Picture in for which every Academy member can nominate its favorite, while only members of actor branch nominate actors for all 4 categories.

All judges organize a ranking of what their favorite movies are, they don't just choose, but several and put their preference from the first to the last.
The film that occupies the first place in more than 50% of the lists is declared the winner, but if none of them manages to be at the top of the rank of at least half of the voters, a system of exclusion of the least voted appears as an alternative tiebreaker.

This is correct, only the Best Picture has preferential voting. Some will say that it is more fair, but I personally don't like this system as it causes the most "agreeable" movie to win instead those that actually take some risk.

[redsun114]

Oscars are not really a wagering thing if you ask me, maybe I am wrong but isn't it basically decided already. Like unless something shocking happens, the fabelsmans should win it, spielberg should get the director and Cate Blanchett for the female and Brandon Fraser for the male. Those four categories are basically locked already and nobody is expecting anything else. Could it be ever possible to get shocked with some different result?

Well, of course and it has happened before but it's very rare and only with one of them. So, you could definitely gamble on these four, and will come out in profit unless something very unexpected happens. Oscars are rarely unexpected, people know who will get it.

[KTChampions]

Oscars are not really a wagering thing if you ask me, maybe I am wrong but isn't it basically decided already. Like unless something shocking happens, the fabelsmans should win it, spielberg should get the director and Cate Blanchett for the female and Brandon Fraser for the male. Those four categories are basically locked already and nobody is expecting anything else. Could it be ever possible to get shocked with some different result?

Well, of course and it has happened before but it's very rare and only with one of them. So, you could definitely gamble on these four, and will come out in profit unless something very unexpected happens. Oscars are rarely unexpected, people know who will get it.

If bookmakers accept bets on all outcomes, then it is obvious that the result is not predetermined (at least no one knows it in advance). Or do you think that if the result was known in advance, then bookmakers would give insiders the opportunity to take money from themselves? I am sure that in this case they would not accept bets on some outcomes.

[libert19]

Oscars are not really a wagering thing if you ask me, maybe I am wrong but isn't it basically decided already. Like unless something shocking happens, the fabelsmans should win it, spielberg should get the director and Cate Blanchett for the female and Brandon Fraser for the male. Those four categories are basically locked already and nobody is expecting anything else. Could it be ever possible to get shocked with some different result?

Well, that's why the obvious choices have lesser multiplier compared to the possible 'shocking' results.