2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions

[Sithara007]

Knowing how desperate some organizers can get for relevance and viewers, this year there could be some unexpected "accidents" as well. 

I don't think that incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock was planned, so I don't expect anything like that happening this year neither. Well, at least not organized by Academy but I doubt any actor would want to follow Smith's steps considering all the consequences (10 years ban from Oscars, movies delayed) that seriously affected his career.

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock. But in the end, it was Will Smith who ended up on the losing side. Rock is someone who didn't had anything to lose and actually he provoked Smith for some cheap publicity. But overall, it left a bad taste for the viewers like me who were watching the event live. And I can see that Rock hasn't stopped his provocations. A few days back, he starred in a Netflix special, in which he mocked and made fun of Will Smith. He even ridiculed Smith's role in Emancipation.

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[Rikafip]

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock.

Dunno, for me it wasn't hard to take a side because Smith is obviously wrong there and there is no excuse for his behavior. But since he was insecure and wanted to appear "man" in his wife's eyes (while she is having affairs with other men lol), he did that stupid thing were he end up looking even more pathetic.

Rock is someone who didn't had anything to lose and actually he provoked Smith for some cheap publicity. But overall, it left a bad taste for the viewers like me who were watching the event live. And I can see that Rock hasn't stopped his provocations. A few days back, he starred in a Netflix special, in which he mocked and made fun of Will Smith. He even ridiculed Smith's role in Emancipation.

That's what comedians do and that's why the are often hosts in these ceremonies and if you think that what Rock said is bad, what would you say then about Rickey Gervais and his Golden Globes bits? If comedians can't take jokes, who can?

[noormcs5]

Besides the betting on the possible winners of this year.
Is anyone else expecting to see if something wacky and crazy happens during the night of the awards this year? 

I have read around the internet there was a 50% boost on the viewers, and a huge increase on the interest for the Oscars, because of what happened with Will Smith a year ago.

Knowing how desperate some organizers can get for relevance and viewers, this year there could be some unexpected "accidents" as well. 

You reminded me of that incident which was one of the unique unforgettable event in Oscar history. Even almost year have gone by, but the debate is still on as whether this was a planned action or it happened in reality. No one has a definite answer for this.

Yes, the hype of oscar is there and i am sure this incident will be discussed in one way or another in 2023 Oscar award.

For those who haven't seen this, here you can watch on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t1CC7-UFE

[FatFork]

Knowing how desperate some organizers can get for relevance and viewers, this year there could be some unexpected "accidents" as well. 

I don't think that incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock was planned, so I don't expect anything like that happening this year neither. Well, at least not organized by Academy but I doubt any actor would want to follow Smith's steps considering all the consequences (10 years ban from Oscars, movies delayed) that seriously affected his career.

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock. But in the end, it was Will Smith who ended up on the losing side. Rock is someone who didn't had anything to lose and actually he provoked Smith for some cheap publicity. But overall, it left a bad taste for the viewers like me who were watching the event live. And I can see that Rock hasn't stopped his provocations. A few days back, he starred in a Netflix special, in which he mocked and made fun of Will Smith. He even ridiculed Smith's role in Emancipation.

I don't think it's fair to assume that Chris Rock's actions were motivated solely by a desire for cheap publicity. After all, he is a comedian and it's his job to use humor to comment on current events and popular culture. Humor and satire are important parts of our cultural discourse, it's important to recognize that, and I believe he was hired for that reason. While some may have found his jokes about Will Smith and his wife distasteful, it's possible that they were not intended to be mean-spirited or hurtful. Regarding the Netflix special, I haven't seen it myself, so I can't speak to whether or not Rock's jokes about Smith were in poor taste.

And let's be real here, when you physically attack someone in front of millions of people, it's pretty unlikely that you'll get a lot of support - no matter what the occasion. So, I think it's safe to say that Smith definitely deserved the backlash he received for that one.

[STT]

It was highly unusual thing to do, obviously he lost his temper but a slap is hardly an extreme for censure especially.    Oscars should thank him for the publicity raised as some commentators have noted Oscars have lost their lead advantage to other ceremonies and awards for relevance.  I know the Oscars is often largely guided by the most dominant theme at that time in society, the war in Europe would seem relevant, refugee plight and so on possibly.  Any film related to those topics might do better, I guessed Hopkins in his last Oscar win would do better because senior dementia has been of some highlight recently.

[Sithara007]

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock.

Dunno, for me it wasn't hard to take a side because Smith is obviously wrong there and there is no excuse for his behavior. But since he was insecure and wanted to appear "man" in his wife's eyes (while she is having affairs with other men lol), he did that stupid thing were he end up looking even more pathetic.

The justification given by Will Smith is that Chris Rock made offensive comments about the appearance of his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. He made comments regarding her hair, and Smith was offended because Jada's hair loss condition resulted from a medical issue (Alopecia). Anyway, I believe that both the sides are wrong here. No one should make fun of medical conditions, and at the same time, it is not civilized manner to respond by slapping people who make such comments. Anyway, hopefully this year's award ceremony will be devoid of such incidents.

[Hispo]

Knowing how desperate some organizers can get for relevance and viewers, this year there could be some unexpected "accidents" as well. 

I don't think that incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock was planned, so I don't expect anything like that happening this year neither. Well, at least not organized by Academy but I doubt any actor would want to follow Smith's steps considering all the consequences (10 years ban from Oscars, movies delayed) that seriously affected his career.

Perhaps it was not planned but the Academy may realize that the drama sells, and even though Will Smith got "punished" for losing control during the awards.
The organizers of the event know that people has gotten more interest in the Oscars, since the incident last year. they could feel tempted to keep the interest going somehow.

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock.

Dunno, for me it wasn't hard to take a side because Smith is obviously wrong there and there is no excuse for his behavior. But since he was insecure and wanted to appear "man" in his wife's eyes (while she is having affairs with other men lol), he did that stupid thing were he end up looking even more pathetic.

The justification given by Will Smith is that Chris Rock made offensive comments about the appearance of his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. He made comments regarding her hair, and Smith was offended because Jada's hair loss condition resulted from a medical issue (Alopecia). Anyway, I believe that both the sides are wrong here. No one should make fun of medical conditions, and at the same time, it is not civilized manner to respond by slapping people who make such comments. Anyway, hopefully this year's award ceremony will be devoid of such incidents.

Anyone aware of Chris Rock's performances (and other host's performances) would have expected some jokes on other's during the Oscars. If they wanted something different, then they should have had someone else on the stage.

Back when all this happened,by the way, I was confused, because at first Will laughed at the joke (his wife was not) and then he decided to step up and slap Chris...

[bbc.reporter]

@Betwrong. The final voting for the Oscar awards this year are done on March 2 to March 7 and very much similar to the years before, there are some leaks in information that the oddmakers can collect and change the odds correspondingly.

In any case, the odds did not change. I am quite certain Everything Everywhere will win the Oscar for best picture. I speculate the Hollywood agenda this year is forget everything, enjoy your life heehehe.

I thought it's about constant fighting for understanding between generations and between people in general, but, well, maybe it's because I'm living in the midst of the war for the last year I see fighting even in movies. Now I think it's both, and you are right too.

Was that the movie's storyline hehehe? What I saw immediately was the LGBTQ agenda and on a conservative Asian family hehe. The messaging has become stronger and it is being displayed everywhere. I am not against LGBTQ, however, the methods used by the creators of movies and television series are forcing it on us already. This is not good, I reckon.

In any case, you have made good bet. It appears that the Oscars voters have again chosen a happy movie this year.

[Sithara007]

Here in India, a lot of hype was generated after the song "Naatu Naatu" got shortlisted. And there is a good chance that it may win the Oscar for best original song. This time the media is also covering the Oscars with a lot of interest, since the song got shortlisted. The song is taken out from the Indian film RRR, which was a grand success at the box office when it was released. The last time an Indian entry won the Oscar was way back in 2009, when AR Rahman won the award for best song (Jai Ho from the movie Slumdog Millionaire).

[rdbase]

Here in India, a lot of hype was generated after the song "Naatu Naatu" got shortlisted. And there is a good chance that it may win the Oscar for best original song. This time the media is also covering the Oscars with a lot of interest, since the song got shortlisted. The song is taken out from the Indian film RRR, which was a grand success at the box office when it was released. The last time an Indian entry won the Oscar was way back in 2009, when AR Rahman won the award for best song (Jai Ho from the movie Slumdog Millionaire).

That name of the film that won over a decade ago brought back memories of an Indian having a major role in an Oscar winning film.
Had not even heard of this film RRR being nominated before so thank you for mentioning it because after just doing a quick search, it does look like an interesting watch.
I like these type of period pieces and having it set in India makes it that much more intriguing to audiences here in North America.

The only film I had seen was Everything Everywhere All At Once on the list of nominees for this years Academy Awards.
Only because it was on a streaming service so no necessity to go to the theater for about a year now.
Probably will just wait for Avatar way of water to drop on there as well.

[bittraffic]

Difficult to take a side in the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock.

Dunno, for me it wasn't hard to take a side because Smith is obviously wrong there and there is no excuse for his behavior. But since he was insecure and wanted to appear "man" in his wife's eyes (while she is having affairs with other men lol), he did that stupid thing were he end up looking even more pathetic.

Rock is someone who didn't had anything to lose and actually he provoked Smith for some cheap publicity. But overall, it left a bad taste for the viewers like me who were watching the event live. And I can see that Rock hasn't stopped his provocations. A few days back, he starred in a Netflix special, in which he mocked and made fun of Will Smith. He even ridiculed Smith's role in Emancipation.

That's what comedians do and that's why the are often hosts in these ceremonies and if you think that what Rock said is bad, what would you say then about Rickey Gervais and his Golden Globes bits? If comedians can't take jokes, who can?

Chris handled it well though. He didn't retaliate but continued the hosting. I say Oscar is the kind of gathering where it's normal to joke around and smile even when the joke isn't as pleasant as you want. Smith acted as if Chris doesn't joke that much even then.

@Betwrong. The final voting for the Oscar awards this year are done on March 2 to March 7 and very much similar to the years before, there are some leaks in information that the oddmakers can collect and change the odds correspondingly.

In any case, the odds did not change. I am quite certain Everything Everywhere will win the Oscar for best picture. I speculate the Hollywood agenda this year is forget everything, enjoy your life heehehe.

I thought it's about constant fighting for understanding between generations and between people in general, but, well, maybe it's because I'm living in the midst of the war for the last year I see fighting even in movies. Now I think it's both, and you are right too.

Was that the movie's storyline hehehe? What I saw immediately was the LGBTQ agenda and on a conservative Asian family hehe. The messaging has become stronger and it is being displayed everywhere. I am not against LGBTQ, however, the methods used by the creators of movies and television series are forcing it on us already. This is not good, I reckon.

In any case, you have made good bet. It appears that the Oscars voters have again chosen a happy movie this year.

It can't be a happy movie when a conspiracy theorist comes to spoil it all because Michelle Yeoh is Chinese. Some of them are already claiming they own the NBA, but now also Hollywood?   Kidding 

I'm also kind of looking into the agenda of movies including the war and zombie movies seem to be sending a message to us all.

[bitgolden]

Rock is someone who didn't had anything to lose and actually he provoked Smith for some cheap publicity. But overall, it left a bad taste for the viewers like me who were watching the event live. And I can see that Rock hasn't stopped his provocations. A few days back, he starred in a Netflix special, in which he mocked and made fun of Will Smith. He even ridiculed Smith's role in Emancipation.

That's what comedians do and that's why the are often hosts in these ceremonies and if you think that what Rock said is bad, what would you say then about Rickey Gervais and his Golden Globes bits? If comedians can't take jokes, who can?

Chris handled it well though. He didn't retaliate but continued the hosting. I say Oscar is the kind of gathering where it's normal to joke around and smile even when the joke isn't as pleasant as you want. Smith acted as if Chris doesn't joke that much even then.

I think it's clear that Rock did nothing wrong, it's just a joke and comedians should not be punched for just making a joke. Look I understand never wanting to see someone because of a joke, or I understand boycotting him, if you feel strongly about it, do not give him your money, or even tweet about how he is not a good person or something, I think it's called "cancelling" these days, back in the day we called it boycotting. If enough people do it and agree with you, they won't earn more money.

But Chris Rock did nothing of sorts, hell he just sold his latest set to netflix, which is why I highly doubt that he was wrong, it wasn't even 99% will smith, 1% rock, it was 100% will smiths fault.

[nullama]

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I don't think that incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock was planned, so I don't expect anything like that happening this year neither. Well, at least not organized by Academy but I doubt any actor would want to follow Smith's steps considering all the consequences (10 years ban from Oscars, movies delayed) that seriously affected his career.

It was absolutely not planned at all.

Chris Rock was so surprised but he managed to keep it cool. He was actually about to say a comeback but wisely stopped and said nothing.

The complete opposite to Will Smith who basically exploded and ruined the rest of his career in a few minutes where he lost complete control of himself.

[Betwrong]

Here in India, a lot of hype was generated after the song "Naatu Naatu" got shortlisted. And there is a good chance that it may win the Oscar for best original song. This time the media is also covering the Oscars with a lot of interest, since the song got shortlisted. The song is taken out from the Indian film RRR, which was a grand success at the box office when it was released. The last time an Indian entry won the Oscar was way back in 2009, when AR Rahman won the award for best song (Jai Ho from the movie Slumdog Millionaire).

It's like one of the surest things that will happen during the 95th Academy Awards: Naatu Naatu winning the Oscar for best original song. I like the song, and the scene overall, and I'm proud that it was shot in Kyiv, the city where I live, the city I love more than any other place in the world.



See the building on the background? It's the Mariinskyi Palace, the official residence of the President of Ukraine. It is in the city center, and since there's a nice park around it, every Kyivan was around at least a couple of times.


The ceremony is just around the corner



Make your last bets, guys. And good luck!

[FanEagle]

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I don't think that incident with Will Smith and Chris Rock was planned, so I don't expect anything like that happening this year neither. Well, at least not organized by Academy but I doubt any actor would want to follow Smith's steps considering all the consequences (10 years ban from Oscars, movies delayed) that seriously affected his career.

It was absolutely not planned at all.

Chris Rock was so surprised but he managed to keep it cool. He was actually about to say a comeback but wisely stopped and said nothing.

The complete opposite to Will Smith who basically exploded and ruined the rest of his career in a few minutes where he lost complete control of himself.

I agree, it was 100% honest reaction and not something that was planned. I still think that it made no sense at all and to react like that to a joke is beyond bonkers. I used to love Will Smith so much, he used to be like an idol to me and he talked about how hard work was the most important thing.

I love his quote "if me and you go on a threadmill together, either you are getting off first, or I am dying", it shows that there is a higher limit to humans than humans care to accept, and I agreed with that a lot. After this incident, and people started talking about other things that he did, which highlighted all his bad sides, I realized he wasn't as good of a person as I thought he might be.

[nullama]

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I agree, it was 100% honest reaction and not something that was planned. I still think that it made no sense at all and to react like that to a joke is beyond bonkers. I used to love Will Smith so much, he used to be like an idol to me and he talked about how hard work was the most important thing.

I love his quote "if me and you go on a threadmill together, either you are getting off first, or I am dying", it shows that there is a higher limit to humans than humans care to accept, and I agreed with that a lot. After this incident, and people started talking about other things that he did, which highlighted all his bad sides, I realized he wasn't as good of a person as I thought he might be.

Well, people are complicated.

And every humans has different parts of a human inside them, they are good and evil in the same person. There's no 100% good person, or 100% bad person, each person is capable of inflicting pain to other and to love others.

Judging someone for one specific action is not really that wise, although it's a popular thing to do.

[decodx]

The Oscar Award ceremony is just a few hours away. Have you decided on your top picks yet? It's time to start making some tough choices! Which films and performances have truly resonated with you this year? Will your picks align with the Academy's choices, or will there be some surprises?

So, grab some popcorn, sit back, and let's see who takes home the coveted golden statuettes. 

[STT]

I still think that it made no sense at all and to react like that to a joke is beyond bonkers.

In the context of an open relationship it made sense, his first reaction was to laugh it off but the joke was not anything close to polite, it was a real low blow.  Personally I see no problem with his extreme objection but a slap officially counts as violence which means it wasn't really anything that could have been planned or will be repeated this year in any way but yea it was nothing that made sense at the time so I first thought it was a joke of some kind.   No side bet for extreme repeat exists that Ive seen sadly :p

[Hispo]

So it seems Guillermo del Toro got his third Oscar for his animated movie "Pinocchio".
I have not seen it yet, but I am aware of how work intensive can stop-motion movies be, for the sake of the spectacular results. So I am almost sure it is a well deserved award for Mr. Del Toro and his team.

Of course, congratulations for those who predicted Del Toro's win and got some money off that bet. 

[nullama]

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In the context of an open relationship it made sense, his first reaction was to laugh it off but the joke was not anything close to polite, it was a real low blow.  Personally I see no problem with his extreme objection but a slap officially counts as violence which means it wasn't really anything that could have been planned or will be repeated this year in any way but yea it was nothing that made sense at the time so I first thought it was a joke of some kind.   No side bet for extreme repeat exists that Ive seen sadly :p

At the end of the day the person that loses his cool and acts violently will always lose in the eyes of the world.

It doesn't really matter if they're right or wrong. If they react violently then they lose already.

Chris Rock actually ended up being the winner here because he kept his cool and carried on taking the high ground. He was about to reply something but didn't because he knew it was better not to react.

Will Smith reacted so poorly that he lost his whole career in that event.