2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions

[nullama]

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Cool story bro. 

How experienced you are in the movie industry, how many movies you produced so far or worked on in any capacity that you claim you can do a much better work than Nolan? Gotta love guys like you that probably never suceeded at anything in their life, telling how better they would be than people who are actually doing it for a living.

It's easier to simply write something in a forum or critique someone else's work than actually doing something yourself.

That's always been the case, and that's what separates the great with the masses.

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[yazher]

It's easier to simply write something in a forum or critique someone else's work than actually doing something yourself.

That's always been the case, and that's what separates the great with the masses.

I use to edit videos with Adobe After Effects and other video tools and I'm telling you it was not that easy to make a 1-minute cool video with some effects in it back then and it took me almost 1 week to do so. Now when it comes to movies there are lots of people involved in their professional fields and sometimes the movie still looks like it hasn't been taken care of by professionals because the scene and effects are somewhat common but these people who criticize wanted to tell the directors and the cameramen what to do, doesn't know the truth of the matters is and the hard works to produce that single movie that they bashed in the internet nowadays.

[CarnagexD]

But, I promise you, I can make a better movie with that budget and that cast, not me personally as a director, but give me the money and let me be a producer and I can hire the same director but hire a different script, not because this will suck, we haven't even seen it, but it is a reward season movie and that sucks, people hate on Marvel but at least they do movies for the public, not for awards.

Cool story bro. 

How experienced you are in the movie industry, how many movies you produced so far or worked on in any capacity that you claim you can do a much better work than Nolan? Gotta love guys like you that probably never suceeded at anything in their life, telling how better they would be than people who are actually doing it for a living.

Would like to know too. I think that's why there's a saying that "if you want to make it right, do it yourself." But I can't promise that everyone will believe you are right after just criticizing someone else's work without proving yourself first.

[Betwrong]

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I for one, watched some of this year's nominees several times, but watching Avatar: The Way of Water and The Fabelmans was torture to me, and I couldn't even watch them halfway through. ... Yes, we are so different. But let's not start killing each other because of that.

Agree about Avatar, I was bored out of my mind and coulnd't wait for it to finish and get out of cinema, while The Fablemans I liked way more than I thought I will.

And for me it was one of the best things on the 95th Academy Awards that, despite seven nominations, The Fablemans didn't win a single Oscar. I know that it is very likely that I'm wrong, but I see it as a start of a new era in cinematography. The era where there will be less films like The Fablemans and Avatar: The Way of Water(4 nominations,1 Oscar for Best Visual Effects), and more movies like Everything Everywhere All at Once, which took all the major Oscars(for me, at least): Best Picture, Best Director and Best Original Screenplay.

(I don't want to look like troll here. I respect your opinion regarding The Fablemans. In fact, my wife loved the  the film very much, and I even placed a bet, on her behalf, on The Fablemans winning the Best Picture Oscar. Fortunately, it was a small bet. )

[Rikafip]

And for me it was one of the best things on the 95th Academy Awards that, despite seven nominations, The Fablemans didn't win a single Oscar. I know that it is very likely that I'm wrong, but I see it as a start of a new era in cinematography. The era where there will be less films like The Fablemans and Avatar: The Way of Water(4 nominations,1 Oscar for Best Visual Effects), and more movies like Everything Everywhere All at Once, which took all the major Oscars(for me, at least): Best Picture, Best Director and Best Original Screenplay.

I find The Fabelmans and Avatar to be quite different type of movies; while first one is pretty intimate drama where Spielberg reveals some quite personal stuff and its sort of autobiopic, Avatar is a pure blockbuster whose sole purpose is to make as much money as possible and a way for Cameron to play with the cutting edge movie technologies.

I think Oscars reached point of no return as for so many years its more important about what movie is (minorities, lgbtq) than an actual quality of the movie which make them less relevant than ever before making it a movie equivalent of Eurovision song contest.

[nullama]

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I find The Fabelmans and Avatar to be quite different type of movies; while first one is pretty intimate drama where Spielberg reveals some quite personal stuff and its sort of autobiopic, Avatar is a pure blockbuster whose sole purpose is to make as much money as possible and a way for Cameron to play with the cutting edge movie technologies.

I think Oscars reached point of no return as for so many years its more important about what movie is (minorities, lgbtq) than an actual quality of the movie which make them less relevant than ever before making it a movie equivalent of Eurovision song contest.

The Oscars are just a show, it's like any other TV contest really.

If you actually want to know what the best movies are, then the Oscars is probably not the best way to get that information. First of all, it's extremely US based(understandably), even with it's foreign section. Second, it's all just a show anyway, so they want a lot of people paying attention to it. That's usually not the best indication of quality.

Things like movie forums or specialized magazines, etc, would probably be a better source of information to get to know the best movies.

[Sithara007]

The Oscars are just a show, it's like any other TV contest really.

If you actually want to know what the best movies are, then the Oscars is probably not the best way to get that information. First of all, it's extremely US based(understandably), even with it's foreign section. Second, it's all just a show anyway, so they want a lot of people paying attention to it. That's usually not the best indication of quality.

Things like movie forums or specialized magazines, etc, would probably be a better source of information to get to know the best movies.

I agree with your comment. There are about 9,500 individuals who are eligible for vote within the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (some 500 or so don't have voting rights). And from what we have seen over the years, their preferences are much different from the general public (but then, need to admit the fact that different people have wildly different taste as far as movies are concerned). To decide whether I need to watch a movie or not, I usually depend on ratings and reviews at websites such as IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes.

[Rikafip]

The Oscars are just a show, it's like any other TV contest really.

Of course they are just a show, but you obviously fail to understand is that they affect movie industry whether you like it or not. Thing is, big movie companies see which type of the movie has more chances for an Oscar so when they get on a table 2 scripts (one that fits all the current agenda and the one that doesn't deal with stuff like that) take a guess which one is more likely to get picked and financed. And in the end it afects all of us and that's one of the reason why we are experiencing the worst movie decade in the last 50-60 years.

I agree with your comment. There are about 9,500 individuals who are eligible for vote within the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (some 500 or so don't have voting rights). And from what we have seen over the years, their preferences are much different from the general public (but then, need to admit the fact that different people have wildly different taste as far as movies are concerned).

Gotta be honest, taste of an average person is crap and it would be even worse if anyone can vote. If it wasn't then all those crappy superhero movies wouldn't make billions.

[lizarder]

If you actually want to know what the best movies are, then the Oscars is probably not the best way to get that information. First of all, it's extremely US based(understandably), even with it's foreign section. Second, it's all just a show anyway, so they want a lot of people paying attention to it. That's usually not the best indication of quality.

Oscar has the qualifications for the films selected to be nominated, even though its base only covers the United States but there are other requirements for films to be nominated, so I think films that have been nominated for Oscar are one of the best films, while indications of quality need not be doubted because they have the conditions to be included in the nomination.

From the several revenue tracks that I see on social media, many film industries hope to be included in the nominations made by the Oscars, which means that the credibility of the Oscars cannot be doubted.

Things like movie forums or specialized magazines, etc, would probably be a better source of information to get to know the best movies.

There are many other ways to get to know the best films made by the film industry, not only in the nominations made by the Oscars and I think everyone must be different in seeing the best films because not everyone's taste is the same.