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May 22, 2023, 08:11:36 PM
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I think poverty is a part that will never go away, we need the poor to work washing clothes or cleaning the house, if they are rich people certainly won't want to work cleaning the house, and all the food on the dining table is the result of farmers, fishermen, drivers and many poor people who play a role in providing the necessities of life.

I prefer to say it with cycles. if someone is rich, it means there is someone who is poor. but in this modern era, poverty can be defined broadly depending on how the individual is. some are poor in heart, poor in feelings, poor in attitude and the last is poor in wealth. Likewise with rich, we can define it differently. there are many people who are rich in wealth, but poor in mind. there are also people who are poor in wealth, but rich in heart. I mean, rich in character, tolerance, kindness and a soft heart. we can define everything, according to the way we see it from different points of view.

But when it comes to the title of this thread, we agree with what you're saying. that in truth, poverty is a part that can never be separated and will never disappear. and, some of the examples you have mentioned.another problem is what keeps people poor, the human capital itself. opportunity, lack of privilege, education, culture, and all kinds of things. that in essence, the rich need the poor and the poor need the rich. we usually call it, symbiosis mutualism.

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May 22, 2023, 09:59:49 PM
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I prefer to say it with cycles. if someone is rich, it means there is someone who is poor. ....
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In relation to the modern world (we are talking about developed countries), this assumption of yours is a big mistake!
This "scheme" was a reality in the Middle Ages, when wealth or poverty was, in fact, limited to your resources, and the ability to take from another. Now the world has changed .. And for a long time! No need to SELECT, you can offer your good ideas and get paid for it, without turning others into poverty! Moreover - a rich man, in a normal world, in addition to the fact that he gets rich himself, he also gives:
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- taxes
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May 22, 2023, 11:30:08 PM
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I think poverty is a part that will never go away, we need the poor to work washing clothes or cleaning the house, if they are rich people certainly won't want to work cleaning the house, and all the food on the dining table is the result of farmers, fishermen, drivers and many poor people who play a role in providing the necessities of life.

I prefer to say it with cycles. if someone is rich, it means there is someone who is poor. but in this modern era, poverty can be defined broadly depending on how the individual is. some are poor in heart, poor in feelings, poor in attitude and the last is poor in wealth. Likewise with rich, we can define it differently. there are many people who are rich in wealth, but poor in mind. there are also people who are poor in wealth, but rich in heart. I mean, rich in character, tolerance, kindness and a soft heart. we can define everything, according to the way we see it from different points of view.

But when it comes to the title of this thread, we agree with what you're saying. that in truth, poverty is a part that can never be separated and will never disappear. and, some of the examples you have mentioned.another problem is what keeps people poor, the human capital itself. opportunity, lack of privilege, education, culture, and all kinds of things. that in essence, the rich need the poor and the poor need the rich. we usually call it, symbiosis mutualism.
There's no such thing about equality on this world on which if there's rich then there are ones who are poor. Why they do stay poor? People doesnt really get contented and this is why they would really be finding

up ways for them to make their lives better.Just like on what others said above that there are people who are really just that contented on what they do currently have and doesnt mind on having that progress
or having that improvement on their way of living. Somewhat economic problems does really contribute for this overall problem but of course it isnt something that you would convince up yourself
that you cant do better than it. If you dont want to be poor then you should work hard and be wise in regarding with your decisions in life and dive in if ever you do
see an opportunity.

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May 22, 2023, 11:30:30 PM
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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.

Laziness is one of the reasons many people remain poor, but it's not the only reason. And those living in a country ravaged by war, corrupt government, and devalued currency...For those people, no matter how hard they try, they can never get out of poverty. I mean, the living environment will also determine most of your life, there is nothing you can do if you are living in countries with such a bad government. Poverty is really terrible, and no one wants to be poor, but many people have no choice.

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May 23, 2023, 05:11:08 AM
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I think poverty is a part that will never go away, we need the poor to work washing clothes or cleaning the house, if they are rich people certainly won't want to work cleaning the house, and all the food on the dining table is the result of farmers, fishermen, drivers and many poor people who play a role in providing the necessities of life.

I prefer to say it with cycles. if someone is rich, it means there is someone who is poor. but in this modern era, poverty can be defined broadly depending on how the individual is. some are poor in heart, poor in feelings, poor in attitude and the last is poor in wealth. Likewise with rich, we can define it differently. there are many people who are rich in wealth, but poor in mind. there are also people who are poor in wealth, but rich in heart. I mean, rich in character, tolerance, kindness and a soft heart. we can define everything, according to the way we see it from different points of view.

But when it comes to the title of this thread, we agree with what you're saying. that in truth, poverty is a part that can never be separated and will never disappear. and, some of the examples you have mentioned.another problem is what keeps people poor, the human capital itself. opportunity, lack of privilege, education, culture, and all kinds of things. that in essence, the rich need the poor and the poor need the rich. we usually call it, symbiosis mutualism.
The grand old question of rich-and-poor, drawn in the wild color palette of heart, mind, and cold hard cash! Kinda feels like a Picasso piece on a rollercoaster, wouldn’t you say? Indeed, the terms 'wealth' and 'poverty' wear more hats than a milliner on derby day. It's not all about the Benjamins, my friends. Your perspective - extolling the treasures of character, tolerance, and benevolence as genuine gold - gets a solid thumbs-up from yours truly. Yet, it's also vital to peer through the looking glass at the societal scaffolding that keeps economic disparities on life support. The scarcity of educational prospects and privileges? They're buried deeper than a meerkat’s breakfast, influencing this game of wealth divide.

Yet, this talk of 'mutual back-scratching' between the haves and have-nots - now, that's a tightrope act! It could be seen as justifying a status quo that only expands the wealth gap. Instead, how about we dream up a utopia where opportunities are handed out not based on one's bank balance but their grit and potential? Wouldn't that be a cocktail of silly and profound?

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May 23, 2023, 03:27:58 PM
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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.

Laziness is one of the reasons many people remain poor, but it's not the only reason. And those living in a country ravaged by war, corrupt government, and devalued currency...For those people, no matter how hard they try, they can never get out of poverty. I mean, the living environment will also determine most of your life, there is nothing you can do if you are living in countries with such a bad government. Poverty is really terrible, and no one wants to be poor, but many people have no choice.

Mate I think laziness is not much a factor sometimes it is a short of hereditary. I have seen many people that were tagged lazy doing well, some own businesses that are up and running. Some of them it is just their nature being lazy but they are successful in their fields which you can not comprehend.

Lastly, in the midst of bad governance, billionaires are made because they take advantage to knowing where the lapses are and proffer solution to make amends. If one can do this atleast that one could be able to tell the story to convince others coming up

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May 23, 2023, 04:03:44 PM
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I also keep asking myself why some people stay or die poor. From my point of view, some people stay or die poor because they were born into impoverished families. These are beggars because they don't have primary jobs to provide their primary needs, and it is tough for them to make a big step to change their lives because of a lack of education. While some people stay poor because they ignore good opportunities that could lead them to success, they don't want to leave their comfort zone in exchange for their non-convenient and non-exciting lives. And then the sad part is some people keep working hard and have already tried many things to earn extra money, but they are still poor. Because of the corrupt government in their country, they didn't have the chance to save their money, and most of their income went to taxes, bills, and necessities. Lastly, Lack of financial literacy, these people do not know how to spend their money wisely, and they mostly want to spend their money on their wants instead of their necessities.

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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.
Everyone naturally wants to be rich, and everyone naturally wants to leave poverty. But indeed not everyone can succeed in leaving poverty. Even people who work hard tirelessly every day don't necessarily become rich. It's not just hard work and laziness. but it's all about how we think smartly so that our work can be rewarded with higher salaries. We must be good at making opportunities not just looking for opportunities. Expand insight and improve the skills we master. and well laziness must be abandoned to do so. and luck is also another factor that is needed.

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May 23, 2023, 06:30:39 PM
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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.
Everyone naturally wants to be rich, and everyone naturally wants to leave poverty. But indeed not everyone can succeed in leaving poverty. Even people who work hard tirelessly every day don't necessarily become rich. It's not just hard work and laziness. but it's all about how we think smartly so that our work can be rewarded with higher salaries. We must be good at making opportunities not just looking for opportunities. Expand insight and improve the skills we master. and well laziness must be abandoned to do so. and luck is also another factor that is needed.

Yup definitely luck is always the big factor aside from knowledge, skills and every other aspect to succeed, poverty is the last thing a person would love to live with if having an option to choose, like what you have said not everyone have that chance to change their life and those who got that opportunities always try not to waste as they want to live a comfortable life.

Being a poor is not something that you can control, there are some instances that you can't avoid that lead you to this state.

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May 23, 2023, 06:46:13 PM
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Everyone naturally wants to be rich, and everyone naturally wants to leave poverty. But indeed not everyone can succeed in leaving poverty. Even people who work hard tirelessly every day don't necessarily become rich. It's not just hard work and laziness. but it's all about how we think smartly so that our work can be rewarded with higher salaries. We must be good at making opportunities not just looking for opportunities. Expand insight and improve the skills we master. and well laziness must be abandoned to do so. and luck is also another factor that is needed.

Yup definitely luck is always the big factor aside from knowledge, skills and every other aspect to succeed, poverty is the last thing a person would love to live with if having an option to choose, like what you have said not everyone have that chance to change their life and those who got that opportunities always try not to waste as they want to live a comfortable life.

Being a poor is not something that you can control, there are some instances that you can't avoid that lead you to this state.
Correct. That is the reality that occurs in life today. Sometimes things are easy for some people and sometimes things are harder for some people. But basically we should not give up with the circumstances we face. As long as we are alive and healthy, we can still have the opportunity to change circumstances to a better standard of living. keep trying and trying is one way that we can continue to do. but of course by continuing to study every step we have taken before. But indeed not everyone who works hard will guarantee good results. luck and relationships are also important to increase the chances of success.

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May 23, 2023, 09:33:39 PM
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Everyone naturally wants to be rich, and everyone naturally wants to leave poverty. But indeed not everyone can succeed in leaving poverty. Even people who work hard tirelessly every day don't necessarily become rich. It's not just hard work and laziness. but it's all about how we think smartly so that our work can be rewarded with higher salaries. We must be good at making opportunities not just looking for opportunities. Expand insight and improve the skills we master. and well laziness must be abandoned to do so. and luck is also another factor that is needed.

Yup definitely luck is always the big factor aside from knowledge, skills and every other aspect to succeed, poverty is the last thing a person would love to live with if having an option to choose, like what you have said not everyone have that chance to change their life and those who got that opportunities always try not to waste as they want to live a comfortable life.

Being a poor is not something that you can control, there are some instances that you can't avoid that lead you to this state.
Correct. That is the reality that occurs in life today. Sometimes things are easy for some people and sometimes things are harder for some people. But basically we should not give up with the circumstances we face. As long as we are alive and healthy, we can still have the opportunity to change circumstances to a better standard of living. keep trying and trying is one way that we can continue to do. but of course by continuing to study every step we have taken before. But indeed not everyone who works hard will guarantee good results. luck and relationships are also important to increase the chances of success.
There are really things which are really meant for us and this isnt something that could be advanced for someone to determine. No matter how hard we do deal off with it but if luck and things do goes into the opposite

side then you would really still fail. This is why there are some people who are really that afraid on taking up such risks just because of these kind of possible chances or circumstances which would really be experienced along the way or simply they do really just that afraid on failing or committing those mistakes but thinking up sensibly is that if you do like to achieve up that kind of scenario or condition
then you should work hard and do meet and sustain those struggles or challenges that you might experience along the way.

You wouldnt progress if you wont try or would really be tending to face up those challenges. You wouldnt really be just able to reach out a certain state if you wont really be testing
or taking up a risks on doing so.

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There are many factors that can lead to poverty
•Family background
•Bad governance
•Poor education
•Conflicts
•Inequality
• Lack of Infrastructures
 However no one is meant to be poor forever, despite the above listed factors that leads to poverty, there are many lazy people out there who are reluctant to work or make ends needs they either depend on begging or stealing from others to survive.
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You wouldnt progress if you wont try or would really be tending to face up those challenges. You wouldnt really be just able to reach out a certain state if you wont really be testing
or taking up a risks on doing so.

Indeed, great achievements require great sacrifices. For those living in favorable environments, a change in fortune can potentially occur based on the effort and hard work they put in.

However, in certain cases, like in Somalia or Africa, the influence of government and the surrounding environment is incredibly hard to evade. Hard work alone is insufficient to break free from the wilderness and embrace a luxurious life in those countries. Taking risks or jeopardizing something significant is also immensely challenging in order to attain a higher standard of living.
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May 24, 2023, 04:08:51 AM
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I think poverty is a part that will never go away, we need the poor to work washing clothes or cleaning the house, if they are rich people certainly won't want to work cleaning the house, and all the food on the dining table is the result of farmers, fishermen, drivers and many poor people who play a role in providing the necessities of life.

Although the gap between rich and poor in society is a painful and unfair problem for many people. But I agree with what you said, our world would become chaotic or even destroyed if everyone was rich and no one had to work.
But I am sure that will never happen, the rich will never let the poor have the opportunity to rise to their level, only a few can rise up to get rich on their own. And the rich will also seek to destroy each other because no one wants to be poorer and enslaved. That is the nature of human society.

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May 24, 2023, 06:00:25 AM
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Everyone naturally wants to be rich, and everyone naturally wants to leave poverty. But indeed not everyone can succeed in leaving poverty. Even people who work hard tirelessly every day don't necessarily become rich. It's not just hard work and laziness. but it's all about how we think smartly so that our work can be rewarded with higher salaries. We must be good at making opportunities not just looking for opportunities. Expand insight and improve the skills we master. and well laziness must be abandoned to do so. and luck is also another factor that is needed.

Yup definitely luck is always the big factor aside from knowledge, skills and every other aspect to succeed, poverty is the last thing a person would love to live with if having an option to choose, like what you have said not everyone have that chance to change their life and those who got that opportunities always try not to waste as they want to live a comfortable life.

Being a poor is not something that you can control, there are some instances that you can't avoid that lead you to this state.
Correct. That is the reality that occurs in life today. Sometimes things are easy for some people and sometimes things are harder for some people. But basically we should not give up with the circumstances we face. As long as we are alive and healthy, we can still have the opportunity to change circumstances to a better standard of living. keep trying and trying is one way that we can continue to do. but of course by continuing to study every step we have taken before. But indeed not everyone who works hard will guarantee good results. luck and relationships are also important to increase the chances of success.
There are really things which are really meant for us and this isnt something that could be advanced for someone to determine. No matter how hard we do deal off with it but if luck and things do goes into the opposite

side then you would really still fail. This is why there are some people who are really that afraid on taking up such risks just because of these kind of possible chances or circumstances which would really be experienced along the way or simply they do really just that afraid on failing or committing those mistakes but thinking up sensibly is that if you do like to achieve up that kind of scenario or condition
then you should work hard and do meet and sustain those struggles or challenges that you might experience along the way.

You wouldnt progress if you wont try or would really be tending to face up those challenges. You wouldnt really be just able to reach out a certain state if you wont really be testing
or taking up a risks on doing so.
The balance between hard work, resilience, and a pinch of luck indeed creates the quintessential recipe for success. However, I beg to differ on one point: not all success relies on luck. Success, more often than not, is the child of persistence and wisdom, combined with an ability to learn from failures.

Take a technical look at this equation: if we say success equals effort plus aptitude plus luck, we often overlook the critical variable of 'adaptability.' Life isn't a static algorithm but a dynamic, ever-changing landscape. Adaptability, or our ability to learn from mistakes and grow, carries weight equal to, if not greater than, luck.

The fear of failure and risks is understandable and, to a degree, logical. But from a pragmatic standpoint, risks, much like in trading or even in a scientific experiment, are inherent and necessary for growth. Failure should not be a deterrent but a stepping stone. It's an integral part of the process, as essential as trials in a scientific method

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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.

Laziness is one of the reasons many people remain poor, but it's not the only reason. And those living in a country ravaged by war, corrupt government, and devalued currency...For those people, no matter how hard they try, they can never get out of poverty. I mean, the living environment will also determine most of your life, there is nothing you can do if you are living in countries with such a bad government. Poverty is really terrible, and no one wants to be poor, but many people have no choice.
In several African states, I've seen a country with the lowest income. I simply think that they work very hard to earn money. they walk several tens of kilometers every day just to earn a few bucks. I think, it's not just a matter of hard work. I think they just haven't got enough education to make a lot of money from anywhere else. In addition, the government also plays an important role in this matter. However, education is very important to start economic improvement. there are so many reasons why people are stuck in poverty.

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May 24, 2023, 07:45:15 AM
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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.

Laziness is one of the reasons many people remain poor, but it's not the only reason. And those living in a country ravaged by war, corrupt government, and devalued currency...For those people, no matter how hard they try, they can never get out of poverty. I mean, the living environment will also determine most of your life, there is nothing you can do if you are living in countries with such a bad government. Poverty is really terrible, and no one wants to be poor, but many people have no choice.
In several African states, I've seen a country with the lowest income. I simply think that they work very hard to earn money. they walk several tens of kilometers every day just to earn a few bucks. I think, it's not just a matter of hard work. I think they just haven't got enough education to make a lot of money from anywhere else. In addition, the government also plays an important role in this matter. However, education is very important to start economic improvement. there are so many reasons why people are stuck in poverty.
the influence of the government and a country is very decisive for every citizen who is poor or still rich, I agree that being poor or rich is not always because of one's hard work but there are many other things that support this, one example is government interference.
if to choose of course no one wants to live in poverty but many of them are poor because of compulsion which is difficult to get out of it.
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As crazy as this might sound it's true, some people are comfortable with the way they are living their lives, someone cared for a woman living on the street with her two kids, this guy went ahead to rent an apartment for these woman and her kids and bought foods stuff for them, this went on for a month and while the guy was looking for a job for the woman, she vanished with her kids, and she didn't take anything from the apartment, the bed sheets, cooking tools and expensive things are still all intact.

She wrote down a letter for the guy that she prefers her old way of living, that the guy should not bother to look for them, that she has traveled back to her village, like I have said before, some people just preferred their way of living and we feel mercy for them in their current state, not knowing that they don't feel pity for themselves.

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Maybe people are still in a low economy in this era of an increasingly developing world involving them in terms of their lack of knowledge and interest in knowing the times, basically this is what dominates them to develop and make them rich and have many things and targets lifetime to be reached.
In general, there are still many people who experience difficulties nowadays caused by several things, such as not being able to continue their education better. And they also cannot develop their economy in life so that the target of becoming rich is still very difficult for some people to achieve because they still have to struggle with some of the limitations that they still have today.

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To be honest, there are many ways they can generate both in terms of FIAT or Cryptocurrency in the form of virtual currency / say with digital currency, maybe one of which we take from Investment and this is not directed directly to Bitcoin, because Investment can also be done in real form, namely Gold, but we are predominant for Bitcoin digital Investment, but they can't use it because maybe their lack of knowledge about this.
Investments can indeed be made anywhere as long as the assets purchased for the investment are still good enough in the eyes of the public at this time. For example, gold and Bitcoin, although both are different investments, both are still good enough to be owned by some people in terms of investment. But for now I see Bitcoin as a good opportunity for investment before the price becomes more expensive than the current price.

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May 24, 2023, 08:31:16 AM
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In my own opinion I feel nobody wants to be poor or remain poor, cause they're many opportunities out there to get wealthy it's either they refuse to take those opportunities or they're too lazy to work or are comfortable with the way they're.
There's no excuse for being poor, cause like I said, they're many opportunities but taking them is the thing, laziness is one of the key factors to poverty.

Laziness is one of the reasons many people remain poor, but it's not the only reason. And those living in a country ravaged by war, corrupt government, and devalued currency...For those people, no matter how hard they try, they can never get out of poverty. I mean, the living environment will also determine most of your life, there is nothing you can do if you are living in countries with such a bad government. Poverty is really terrible, and no one wants to be poor, but many people have no choice.
In several African states, I've seen a country with the lowest income. I simply think that they work very hard to earn money. they walk several tens of kilometers every day just to earn a few bucks. I think, it's not just a matter of hard work. I think they just haven't got enough education to make a lot of money from anywhere else. In addition, the government also plays an important role in this matter. However, education is very important to start economic improvement. there are so many reasons why people are stuck in poverty.
the influence of the government and a country is very decisive for every citizen who is poor or still rich, I agree that being poor or rich is not always because of one's hard work but there are many other things that support this, one example is government interference.
if to choose of course no one wants to live in poverty but many of them are poor because of compulsion which is difficult to get out of it.
Yes, basically the problem of poverty is so complex and difficult for someone who is born into a poor family to become rich,
many obstacles but that does not mean it is impossible,
this is where the important role of government and the need to make appropriate policies.
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