Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling???

[paxmao]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

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[Oshosondy]

I have not used ChatGPT before, but I think they are used to make some task possible which is related to chatting and fetching out the suitable answers from elsewhere. I have only learned about how it can be used in trading and not other places, so my answer may not be accurate at all. Also even if it can be used for other things, I do not think it can be up to what you are talking about, but there might be some AI that can be used for that purpose. You can correct me if I am wrong because my knowledge on AI is very little.

[Synchronice]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

There is no way an AI will be capable to destroy online poker gaming. I mean, the game is played between two to ten players, each of them have different combination of cards, there is no way an AI can build a strategy out of thin air because there are a lot of combinations that its opponents may have in hand.
Imagine, an AI can beat a person in chess game because it knows opponent's pieces and knows where they are located. Because of that, an AI is capable to mathematically calculate every possible way and always act according to the best one but Poker is a guess what your opponent has game. If I have good cards on hand, absolutely no one and nothing will be able to beat me.

An AI robot may have an advantage in real-life poker matches if it's advanced and capable to understand the emotions of its' opponents as they change facial expression.

[bitbollo]

I believe that there is just a big hype behind AI and a whole series of ad hoc messages released by various media campaigns are trying to sell this technology as something "incomparable".
I don't believe at all that we are so close to systems that are so strong that they beat human nature in itself.

[coin.princess]

I haven't think of that before, do the AI could give you suggestion if you input to them your cards and the present cards in the banker? I think that could be really helpful in some situations but don't you think that could be cheating or not? I tried to play with ChatGPT with chess and it looks like it can play chess very well, the knowledge of the this AI is really good so there's no doubt that it can be used in gambling sites.

[Beparanf]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

There is no way an AI will be capable to destroy online poker gaming. I mean, the game is played between two to ten players, each of them have different combination of cards, there is no way an AI can build a strategy out of thin air because there are a lot of combinations that its opponents may have in hand.

I think it’s possible because an AI can easily calculate the winning percentage of the initial hands quickly same when the flop, turn and turn card is available. Actually the can easily play bluff once it analyze the game play of other players based on the past rounds like Player A keeps bluffing, Player B is just playing with good hands and etc. The advantage of having an AI was it can easily calculate the winning percentage and risk involved on the hands.

It can play proficient because it doesn’t have emotion and will just play based on stats which is a common advantage of pro player aside from bluffing since bluffing is not always being use by the pro or else they can easily be setup by a trap.

[piebeyb]

Until now I'm still confused about how to use chatgpt to beat poker online, if we have to play against opposing players why should we use chatgpt or AI because basically poker games also require the skill of bluffing opponents like I usually do when playing poker and against other people in poker table, but maybe for poker machines it might be used because AI technology is currently being widely used to help facilitate human work.

Right now I have never even tried it to think about how to beat the dealer or someone at the gambling table or online poker using chatgpt AI technology, after all it also requires a human touch too if we use it, to be honest I often find threads like this discussing chatgpt AI technology and gambling, they want to find a way to win using technology. it's pretty much impossible to beat the bookies except against someone.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Why chatgpt?

There are plenty of RTA (Real Time Assistance) programs for poker available already.
Also, if it gets out that a player is using such programs this has resulted in getting banned on sites like Pokerstars or GGpoker.
There have even been some prominent cases such as Chris Brewer  . Some examples:

https://www.tympanicklaw.com/blog/2022/05/bombshell-cheating-allegations-rock-poker-community/
https://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room-news/211765-ggpoker-reimburses-over-4000-players-following-recent-rta/


These programs have so much data already, it would take a while until chatgpt would have the same % of "poker knowledge" to be an alternative I think.

[death69]

Ah, precisely! Why limit ourselves to poker luminaries? Let's condition ChatGPT to vanquish every game ever devised. Pshaw, human inventiveness—who needs it when AI is at our disposal, am I right? Why even partake in games when loss is virtually impossible? We might as well recline and assign the toil to the machines.

But truly, friends. The concept of nurturing an AI to trounce human adversaries isn't only achievable—it's already a reality. So, why confine ourselves to poker? Let's take it to the max and authorize machines to rule the Earth. I, for one, salute our novel robotic rulers.

[ololajulo]

It remains a complex and challenging task to train an AI system to play professional online poker, as there are many practical and ethical considerations to take into account. This type of endeavor must be approached with caution and comply with legal and ethical guidelines

[xSkylarx]

I dont play poker but ive been playing with chatGPT and what is the capabilities on this, the computation between what is the best play on the situation like what are my probability of winning and what are the possible cards of the opponent could be calculated easily. I don't really see as of the moment the use of chatGPT in gambling games only its prediction capabilities but not sure in the upcoming months as the OpenAI is putting some addons and now a lot of developers using its API but lets see

[Cantsay]

GPT this, GPT that. If yoou take a good look at chatGPT you'll notice that those in-charge of the project didn't even promote it that much it was you and I that helped them in the promotion the same way we are also promoting it with this thread of yours,yeah, I know that's nto the aim of this thread but just take a secinds to think about it.

As for the Op itself, I don't think it's going to be a easy task to get it to do something like that remember that poker is not like football where you can already analyse the whole game based on the individual players of a team, since poker is a game of skills it will be difficult but if we're just basing it on amatuers as you mentioned then it migth become doable.

[ryzaadit]

At this stage.

No, there has some another thread with ChatGPT to predict the Champion LEAGUE and their data are using the old data from previous season. I don't think the AI can destroy because they cannot make some updated data.

IMO, they only can be play with basic strategy. The different AI has no emotion, comparing to human.

[Negotiation]

ChatGPT is an innovative chatbot app powered by cutting edge AI technology where access to data is very easy. They usually do not provide any strategy for gambling and do not protect the data whether you need help understanding the rules of a game or deciding on your next move, the chat GPT AI can often find the information you need. Therefore the sites should be well monitored so that the players can play efficiently.

[aioc]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

The AIs are in their early stage so far many industries are already using them, which why is so many speculations going on about their usage, they have covered the writing industries and the engineering industry, so we really don't know if these AIs are capable on doing this in the gambling industry what they have done in other industries, they have not yet tested accurately on in-game poker but there's a lot of articles about AIs giving methods and strategies on how to win on Poker.

Like this guide ChatGPT on Poker – AI Reveals The Secret to Winning (2023)

[yahoo62278]

No matter what ChatGPT cannot give you as a player winning cards. All it could do is give you quick odds on whether to make a call or whatnot in a pot. Yes it's still cheating, but it's not a guaranteed win for you. Luck still plays a role. You are just going to win more often then you lose because you now know the odds. At least that's how I take it.

[Wexnident]

I don't think so? I mean it's not like the game had a set amount of moves like chess, bluffing, and the like can happen and AI's can't exactly know what their cards would be or the opponent's card during the draw. It's still up to luck in the end. It's not going to turn a game of luck into something that can be read, even with thousands of data available, it won't become the AlphaGo of poker simply because of how poker works. It may be harder to defeat it since it has the know-hows of what to do, but unless it can actually start reading human emotions/face, then we can only expect it to fold on cards that are bad and fight on cards that are good. Maybe a bluff here and there can work, but it won't exactly feat a person who can bluff themselves, if they knew what they were doing.

[Eureka_07]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Dude. This is too muh. I mean, ChatGPT doesn't even have latest data. If I remember it correctly, its most recent data is for year 2021. So with that, how can it beat a poker player without having real-time data?
Bots can be trained with poker, but not chatGPT because (I assume) of that reason. It needs to have real-time data.

[Saint-loup]

There is no way an AI will be capable to destroy online poker gaming. I mean, the game is played between two to ten players, each of them have different combination of cards, there is no way an AI can build a strategy out of thin air because there are a lot of combinations that its opponents may have in hand.
Imagine, an AI can beat a person in chess game because it knows opponent's pieces and knows where they are located. Because of that, an AI is capable to mathematically calculate every possible way and always act according to the best one but Poker is a guess what your opponent has game. If I have good cards on hand, absolutely no one and nothing will be able to beat me.

An AI robot may have an advantage in real-life poker matches if it's advanced and capable to understand the emotions of its' opponents as they change facial expression.

I don't agree with you, because it would mean that good poker players are just lucky, but I don't think it's true because good players know the odds consciously or not, they are able to assess how other players are likely to have better hands than them from the cards dealt on the table and in their hands, and then how they are likely to win or to lose. In addition they are able to guess how other players play when they have good hand or bad hand from what they've seen in the previous round.

[jrrsparkles]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

The existing version of chatGPT doesn't have such features but in future definitely they can be automated to do such things with their own decisions and if it became possible they might end the career of casual poker players because system can simply outrun them cause especially they made it for but I don't think casinos will allows that to happen because it's potential will be the end of profit if this happens.