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April 07, 2024, 11:58:59 PM
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That grandfather's a fool. At his age, you should have your own vegetable garden, grow fresh fruits and vegetables, enjoy fishing, hunting, traveling to other countries. Take grandchildren to visit, to help his family, not to gamble. We all know that in many countries at such an old age it is not recommended to drive a car as it is associated with high risks. What this grandfather was hoping for by gambling is not quite clear to me. Probably he wanted to make a big score and immediately die from an overabundance of dopamine.

The idea of a ransom for his granddaughter seems absurd to me. I think this grandfather needs to be treated.
That's right, of course everyone who is addicted will of course have a bad impact on themselves so this will be very detrimental to themselves and some even harm other people because of their addiction to gambling and for those who are old and still continue to do so. gambling, of course, this will be very difficult for those closest to them if that person does not have an income and even though they have an income, of course this is still not good because we often see someone who loses in a bet, they will not be able to control their emotions and it is very unfortunate if The person is old and emotions will certainly cause disease for them.

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April 07, 2024, 11:59:46 PM
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That grandfather's a fool. At his age, you should have your own vegetable garden, grow fresh fruits and vegetables, enjoy fishing, hunting, traveling to other countries. Take grandchildren to visit, to help his family, not to gamble. We all know that in many countries at such an old age it is not recommended to drive a car as it is associated with high risks. What this grandfather was hoping for by gambling is not quite clear to me. Probably he wanted to make a big score and immediately die from an overabundance of dopamine.

The idea of a ransom for his granddaughter seems absurd to me. I think this grandfather needs to be treated.
That's right, of course everyone who is addicted will of course have a bad impact on themselves so this will be very detrimental to themselves and some even harm other people because of their addiction to gambling and for those who are old and still continue to do so. gambling, of course, this will be very difficult for those closest to them if that person does not have an income and even though they have an income, of course this is still not good because we often see someone who loses in a bet, they will not be able to control their emotions and it is very unfortunate if The person is old and emotions will certainly cause disease for them.
Regret is always at the end, people do changed when they had already messed up and thats a usual case. Gambling business was so profitable on which this is the main reason on why it is that something
making huge revenue due to that very common gambler behavior. They would really be that having that kind of impulsive approach and feeling towards gambling specially on making money.
Once this thing is on your mind then the main thing that you do have or priority is to play no matter what.

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April 08, 2024, 04:34:16 AM
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Addiction to anything is harmful. It's not just about gambling. Even if we become addicted to a good thing, it will cause us physical or mental harm.

There are many downsides to gambling addiction. I have seen many people who are addicted to gambling and then gradually become addicted to other drugs. Many drink regularly and to excess. As a result, he becomes mentally and physically weak.

Many people lose their money due to gambling addiction. I knew a few rich people. Who had a lot of wealth. But they lost all their wealth within 2-3 years due to gambling addiction. This is why we should always be very careful.

Due to gambling addiction, we often see relationships with family members deteriorate. Loss of money naturally leads to bad mood and misbehaves with family members.

We should gamble carefully and try to avoid gambling addiction as much as possible. I think spending extra money and time on gambling will gradually increase the chances of getting addicted to it.

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April 08, 2024, 07:05:02 AM
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Addiction to anything is harmful. It's not just about gambling. Even if we become addicted to a good thing, it will cause us physical or mental harm.

There are many downsides to gambling addiction. I have seen many people who are addicted to gambling and then gradually become addicted to other drugs. Many drink regularly and to excess. As a result, he becomes mentally and physically weak.

Many people lose their money due to gambling addiction. I knew a few rich people. Who had a lot of wealth. But they lost all their wealth within 2-3 years due to gambling addiction. This is why we should always be very careful.

Due to gambling addiction, we often see relationships with family members deteriorate. Loss of money naturally leads to bad mood and misbehaves with family members.

We should gamble carefully and try to avoid gambling addiction as much as possible. I think spending extra money and time on gambling will gradually increase the chances of getting addicted to it.

This is true.

A person can be addicted to many things, alcohol, gambling, social media, etc.

It's all in the mind, and they are not achieving their true potential if they are still stuck with an addiction.

Also, many addictions cost a lot of money, specially gambling.

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April 08, 2024, 08:04:41 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

you have to be intimate to the person to know for sure if they're addicted and if the thing is a problem in their life or not
not so simple at first glance
I talked with people who were addicted online but never met someone in person, at least not to gambling
met addicted people to other things which are more commons and more acessible.
That is an excellent point; it might be tough to tell if someone is suffering from a gambling addiction especially if you don't know them well. However, there are several warning indicators to look out for, such as abrupt behavioural changes, unexplained financial difficulties, or becoming more secretive or evasive. If you feel that someone you know is battling with a gambling addiction, approach them with compassion and offer help.
The people that keeps complaining of becoming addicted to gambling need to check themselves and see if they are doing the right thing that would guarantee them to make money rather then becoming addicted to gambling. Gambling can be a good way to make free money so with that one need to be very careful on the kind of decisions we are making for us to keep seeing results that would benefit us as gamblers. To keep getting good results as gamblers, it is mandatory for one to keep upgrading and updating strategy that would last longer with more subtle way to bet without going extra miles to seek for funds to play games.
To avoid gambling addiction, it is necessary to be self-aware and make sound decisions. It's true that gambling can be enjoyable and even exciting, but it is always important to use caution and strategy.
Plus, Regularly assessing your behaviours and modifying your strategy will help you maintain control. Setting time and money limitations, experimenting with different sorts of gambling, and learning from previous experiences can all lead to better outcomes.
Balancing enjoyment with responsibility is essential for reducing addiction dangers while also having fun and maybe gaining money. We should always remember that gambling always includes risks and should not be counted on as a guaranteed or primary source of income but only as a way to have fun and reduce stress.

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April 08, 2024, 10:15:15 PM
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To avoid gambling addiction, it is necessary to be self-aware and make sound decisions. It's true that gambling can be enjoyable and even exciting, but it is always important to use caution and strategy.
Plus, Regularly assessing your behaviours and modifying your strategy will help you maintain control. Setting time and money limitations, experimenting with different sorts of gambling, and learning from previous experiences can all lead to better outcomes.
Balancing enjoyment with responsibility is essential for reducing addiction dangers while also having fun and maybe gaining money. We should always remember that gambling always includes risks and should not be counted on as a guaranteed or primary source of income but only as a way to have fun and reduce stress.
   By acknowledging that you are not addicted and accepting responsibility for your actions, you can make better decisions. Your free will is the strongest tool you have to bring about change in your life. Changing a behavior requires a genuine desire to do so. No one is forcing you to engage in harmful activities like gambling or substance abuse. These choices are entirely up to you, based on the lies and truths you tell yourself. Research shows that people only overcome behavioral problems when they truly want to. While addiction may seem powerful, ultimately, it is your choice whether to put a cigarette in your mouth or consume alcohol or pills. Some may argue that withdrawal is an excuse, but it's important to be honest with yourself about your actions and intentions.
   If you're using money meant for your child's needs to gamble, you are deceiving yourself about the purpose of that money. Honesty with yourself is crucial in making the decision not to place a bet. Programs like Alcoholics Anonymous and Gamblers Anonymous have helped many people, but they have high dropout rates and a flawed approach. They deny the existence of free will and emphasize a diseased perspective. Instead of helping people change their behaviors, they primarily focus on managing the consequences. Groups for gamblers can be especially damaging, as they encourage you to publicly declare yourself as an addict who can't be trusted with money. This often leads to losing jobs and friends. It doesn't have to be difficult to quit gambling; you simply need to genuinely want to stop. When you're honest with yourself and truly see your actions for what they are, you will be able to put an end to destructive habits. Until then, any excuses or theories about addiction are merely untrue justifications. The choice is yours. Choose your free will and a life of freedom instead of self-imposed limitations.
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April 08, 2024, 10:26:41 PM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

It got me thinking, we really need to have each other’s backs in this community. Whether it’s setting up better support systems for those who find themselves in too deep, or just spreading the word about safe play, there’s a lot we can do.
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It got me thinking, we really need to have each other’s backs in this community. Whether it’s setting up better support systems for those who find themselves in too deep, or just spreading the word about safe play, there’s a lot we can do.

Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.

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That is the height of it. I can't emagine how someone would go this far to the extent of kidnaping his own grand daughter all because he want his son in-law to pay a ransom of $72k to pay off his gambling loan. That is the reason why we keep on talking about gambling addiction and how it affects us in somany ways. Come to think of it how can a man of 65 years will still be playing gamble at his age? Like I always said gambling could be fun and can change someone's financial status but not what we can take to another dimension.
When I head this story, I wasn't surprised at all, I asked myself, if someone can go as far as taking his own life as a result of gambling addiction then is there a length people cannot go?  I've seen even worst cases. This is why people should be very mindful of gambling, especially when you know that you have a very poor self control, because sometimes it's not even about the effects and pains it brings to the victim, it's sometimes mostly about the effect on the people closest to the victim. Just imagine the emotional tension and the pressure he must've put the family through because of this single act which he would've avoided if only he had a little bit more of self-control.
As long as it is gambling addiction, nothing is surprising because a gambling addict is like drug addict that can go any length to satisfy that urge. The stories of gambling addicts are just too numerous and most of them are never shared. There was a time that robbery increased in my neighborhood. Eventually some of the arm robbers were caught and to our greatest surprised, almost all of them were people who spend most of their time in the gambling shops. This shows that the money they steal still goes back into gambling.
Lol, indeed people can really go to any length just to satisfy their gambling addiction and you know the worst part of gambling addiction? No amount of win is ever enough for them, even if they make 1000x in a day, they'll still have the urge to keep gambling to win more, and the cycle will keep repeating until they've lost everything they've won and even more, and then you'll see them running around looking for where to borrow or get more money to continue gambling. And that's where you see that desperation that leads them to the point of going to any length just to continue gambling to win back what they reckless lost and even when they get the money, they'll still throw it away to gambling.

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It got me thinking, we really need to have each other’s backs in this community. Whether it’s setting up better support systems for those who find themselves in too deep, or just spreading the word about safe play, there’s a lot we can do.

Yes, we do. I think sharing what we experience will help out those who are just starting or thinking about playing the game that we play. I think slots are the ones that can get you deep especially if you hit a multiplier that will surprise you.
It happened to me and now I am longing to play again although I am still trying to control myself because I want to play it in one sweep with a good amount in my wallet that will prolong the game and maybe give me a chance to hit the same multiplier.

But for those with access to money the instant they lost, I beg you to never go back after you deplete your wallet, don't deposit yet. Take a rest or a breather and just clear your minds first because if you are doing it for revenge losses may come and it leads to gambling addiction.

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April 09, 2024, 09:06:44 PM
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the people who keep complaining about anything should check themselves
lol
complaining leads us to no other place than misery and bad vibes.
and if you're here for so long you know that vibes matter.

to have good results as a gambler you probably need accoountability, knowing when to stop and emotional awareness.

I usually complain when I lose my bet but only on that specific time and not all throughout my day after I lose. This is entertainment we are getting on gambling, we lose some and we win some. Most important thing is the experience even the losses it helps us to appreciate more when we win.

Sometimes winning just a mere 100$ for a day of gambling is almost special to us because we lose big time in the past so experiencing a little bit of win can be easily appreciated since we know how hard to win.

I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

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I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

Yeah, at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to stop before it's too late.

Many people get frustrated when they lose and start blaming anyone else but themselves.

I think it's fair to say that the behavior you are describing is the most popular. It's not a good one though.

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April 11, 2024, 07:06:59 AM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
If you want to make gambling safe then you do not really have too many options, you either stop gambling altogether or you use play money when gambling, those are the only two ways in which you can make gambling perfectly safe, but the moment you use money for your hobby, you need to also take the responsibility for the losses you may suffer, there is no way around it, as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
If you want to make gambling safe then you do not really have too many options, you either stop gambling altogether or you use play money when gambling, those are the only two ways in which you can make gambling perfectly safe, but the moment you use money for your hobby, you need to also take the responsibility for the losses you may suffer, there is no way around it, as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Indeed, but most gamblers can't deal with it, emotions and greed always hurting them when they are involve with their gambling sessions surely after suffering from a defeats they will be out of control with their emotions pushing them to do things unusual, gambling addictions creates un-balance ways of thinking, like what you said if you wanted not to be involve and not to suffer on losing your money better to play with games that are not requires real money.

But once you start using your hard-earned money, that's where the pressure will begin, after experiencing either winning or losing, your appetite increase and without good emotional control, you'll wreck everything and will create addiction inside you.

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April 11, 2024, 09:44:27 AM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.

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April 11, 2024, 10:28:57 AM
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Indeed, but most gamblers can't deal with it, emotions and greed always hurting them when they are involve with their gambling sessions surely after suffering from a defeats they will be out of control with their emotions pushing them to do things unusual, gambling addictions creates un-balance ways of thinking, like what you said if you wanted not to be involve and not to suffer on losing your money better to play with games that are not requires real money.

But once you start using your hard-earned money, that's where the pressure will begin, after experiencing either winning or losing, your appetite increase and without good emotional control, you'll wreck everything and will create addiction inside you.

Playing demo games is like a wasting of time to addicted gamblers. Moreover, I'm not an addicted gambler but I don't find it interesting playing games where money is not involve. And yes, the emotional aspect of gambling is not being properly talk about as it requires. Gambling is one of the source that lead to numerous unhealthy behaviors you can think of, thus, having a strong emotional control is very necessary.

It's saddening addicts overlook the signs of their addiction until it grows to stage where it becomes difficult to handle. For everyone out there seeing those signs should please take a break and do something calming. Don't try to force things when they are not working. It's better to miss the industry than to allow addiction to destroy your life.

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April 11, 2024, 01:28:13 PM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.
Gambling addiction's a serious issue. Some folks get caught up in it, and we need to help 'em out. The best way to do that is by spotting the warning signs early. Its about noticing changes - more money going out, changes in mood, that kind of thing. Its about being smart, preventive.

Now, the support system we have right now? Frankly, its not good enough. Its inadequate, needs a serious upgrade. Folks need practical strategies, not just empty promises. Therapy's part of it, but we need to make it accessible, make it work for the people who need it most.

We need a revolution in how we think about gambling. We need to make it safe, responsible, with safeguards to help folks who slip up. Its possible, believe me. Its not just about the money, its about protecting people, giving them a fair chance to beat this. We can make gambling great again, the right way.

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April 11, 2024, 02:38:07 PM
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I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

Yeah, at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to stop before it's too late.

Many people get frustrated when they lose and start blaming anyone else but themselves.

I think it's fair to say that the behavior you are describing is the most popular. It's not a good one though.

the crazy thing is that for some this will be much easier said than done
blaming others, revenge gambling, not being able to stop, are all commons behaviors

I wonder if there's a another way but I'm afraid there isn't.

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April 11, 2024, 03:02:22 PM
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That is the height of it. I can't emagine how someone would go this far to the extent of kidnaping his own grand daughter all because he want his son in-law to pay a ransom of $72k to pay off his gambling loan. That is the reason why we keep on talking about gambling addiction and how it affects us in somany ways. Come to think of it how can a man of 65 years will still be playing gamble at his age? Like I always said gambling could be fun and can change someone's financial status but not what we can take to another dimension.

What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
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April 11, 2024, 04:04:02 PM
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.




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