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November 08, 2023, 05:26:22 AM
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It's hard to stop when you are already in the momentum either you are experiencing losing streak or you are in positive with good numbers of winning streaks, most of the time, instead of quitting your way you will push your way to play more, thinking that there's always more positive outcome that can happen or if you are losing chasing that money and trying to recover is also part of those big factors to lead you in becoming a gambling addicted person.

There are many side effects and it will be depends on different types of gamblers who failed to control and being dominated by gambling addiction.
Yes, that's right, when we have won, of course we will continue to place bets to be able to get even bigger wins and of course we will spend all the winnings we have so that nothing is left behind, including the capital we brought to place bets.

This happens because we cannot control ourselves in gambling, therefore it would be good for us to be able to control ourselves so that we don't get addicted to gambling because if we are addicted to gambling it will certainly have a bad impact on us, especially in terms of finances, we will spend more money on gambling rather than for our own needs.
There's no good intention in our life once a person became addicted to a gambling, No matter how many times we advice to them to have a self control in playing, they wouldn't listen because their mind focused to the other side, aiming to win and to get the grand prize. Sometimes even if they have no money, they will find a solution like lending a money or selling some of their personal things and properties just to get a money to sustain their addiction.
We will see this same character in most gamblers. Where a gambler starts gambling at some stage they will become addicted. People who greed more are more likely to become addicted. If any good advice is given to him at that time, he will react adversely. Their instinct is always to win at gambling. At some point, when they repeatedly lose gambling and empty their bankroll, they begin to behave differently, starting from borrowing money to manage their bankroll. Some times they take part in elligal activities. Gambling is not a problem, but once these symptoms appear, they can become deadly.

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November 08, 2023, 05:32:29 AM
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You're not getting it, the theory is that this is what's happening but it's not unless you've experienced it yourself because if you've experienced winning big then you know that the high of being a winner is going to cloud your judgment combine that with peer pressure and the fallacious mindset that your first win might not just be your only win for that day and first thing you know, you're just putting back the money that you've won back into gambling hoping to get another win.
I just think that if we win gambling with friends, they can pressure us to continue playing instead of deciding to stop. And most of us will follow friends' invitations and not stop even though we want to stop gambling. This is where we have to be able to refuse friends' invitations to return to gambling because we are tired and need rest or whatever the reason is. And as good friends, they don't need to force us to continue gambling because they know their friends' limits will be different from theirs. In this case, we are the ones who decide the limits and must be able to uphold those limits so that we do not continue gambling. If our friends still want to gamble, we just let them and we can watch them gamble at the table.

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November 08, 2023, 01:46:07 PM
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That's why if we are gambling with friends, we have to know our limits so that we don't cross the line and don't spend money gambling. Never borrow money to gamble because it will not give good results, especially if we experience a lot of losses, including the money we borrow. We will also have difficulty returning the money we borrow because all the money is lost at the gambling table without us having the opportunity to win.
safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

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November 08, 2023, 01:53:05 PM
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That's why if we are gambling with friends, we have to know our limits so that we don't cross the line and don't spend money gambling. Never borrow money to gamble because it will not give good results, especially if we experience a lot of losses, including the money we borrow. We will also have difficulty returning the money we borrow because all the money is lost at the gambling table without us having the opportunity to win.
safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .
The decision to initially budget a certain amount of money to for gambling at a given period of time and to temporary quit gambling immediately the money is exhausted without a major win from the concerned gambler is on thing every gambler must do in other not to exceed their expected limits in gambling.
But the sad reality is that many gamblers just go to gambling centers as well as online gambling without prior plan about their spendings in gambling and which in so many occasions has resulted to regrets after they must have lost more than they can bear. Gambling involves staking a certain amount of money in other to win more and that's why a gambler isn't supposed to determine his gambling limit by the limits of others around him rather should plan himself before gambling.

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November 08, 2023, 01:56:15 PM
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That's why if we are gambling with friends, we have to know our limits so that we don't cross the line and don't spend money gambling. Never borrow money to gamble because it will not give good results, especially if we experience a lot of losses, including the money we borrow. We will also have difficulty returning the money we borrow because all the money is lost at the gambling table without us having the opportunity to win.
safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

I agree with your statement, it is indeed a safer way and is really recommended for all gamblers whether they are experienced or even beginners, still a budget must be the main concern because that will determine whether you are a responsible gambler who can accept all the risks that might occur or not. In my opinion, usually those who do not like to pay attention in terms of the amount of money they will budget are that they put a little hope there, such as putting big money with the aim of getting a big win, even though gambling is nothing more than an entertainment activity, but well forget it maybe they are prospective gamblers who will be addicted.

As you said that gambling addicts will not think about that, but instead they want to bring a bigger budget because they think with a large amount of opportunities or chances of winning will be bigger or higher, even though the actual facts do not say that. And well hopefully they can immediately realize and be able to reduce the amount of the budget, because that's the best thing so they don't suffer too much with big losses.

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November 09, 2023, 12:10:01 AM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Any addict will not value the money they need to pay for their craving.

The same happens with alcohol. It doesn't matter how much they are paying, an alcoholic will continue buying more and more bottles until they are broke.

Similar to a gambling addict, they will keep betting until they are broke.

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November 09, 2023, 05:47:34 AM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .
This means that we must always remember that when gambling, we always limit the use of money so that we don't lose a lot of money because in gambling, the loss can come at any time while winning is difficult. Gambling is indeed only for fun and not to make money, so we also have to remember that we gamble for fun, and if we have had enough fun, we should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. By always limiting gambling, we can prevent a lot of losses and if we win, we will always try to stop gambling immediately rather than continuing to gamble because that could make us lose again.

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November 09, 2023, 01:35:27 PM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Any addict will not value the money they need to pay for their craving.

The same happens with alcohol. It doesn't matter how much they are paying, an alcoholic will continue buying more and more bottles until they are broke.

Similar to a gambling addict, they will keep betting until they are broke.
Addiction is really a sickness, people who are addicted to gambling can be termed sicklers because that is their sickness,it brings pain to them almost every minute,and the most annoying part of it is that they find it very difficult to stop it.It is important for every gambler to know that he or she has a problem and a sickness that he must look for a way to stop,if not,their life wont make any sense.I know every gambler has a day that they will laugh,but those days are always very hard to come.
I know I'm also suffering from gambling addiction,but now I have known how to live within my means to avoid being broke every minute.

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November 09, 2023, 03:12:27 PM
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Being addicted to gambling is really as if someone is mad in real life, but in this case, it's only on the way he gambles and he's likely most to be affected by the way he live his life as well, addiction will take our time and also stops us from having interest on other things, we are most likely to be broke, being an addicted gambler because all the money we have will always be chanelled towards gambling, we may loose focus on other things in such a way.
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November 09, 2023, 03:14:43 PM
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That's why if we are gambling with friends, we have to know our limits so that we don't cross the line and don't spend money gambling. Never borrow money to gamble because it will not give good results, especially if we experience a lot of losses, including the money we borrow. We will also have difficulty returning the money we borrow because all the money is lost at the gambling table without us having the opportunity to win.
safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Yes, you are right, with a plan or target set at the beginning, they will play with limits, I hope all gamblers are like this, although there are people who gamble with a target but they hesitate when they get a win, they hesitate to stop or continue. But many people continue their game when they get a win, because maybe they think they are lucky and if they continue it is still lucky so they can get a bigger win, but most of the time it is the opposite, by continuing their game they lose and the winnings they get are also hasbi and there is a sense of regret or annoyance.

I hope all gamblers do what you said so that there is no resentment or regret at the end, and they should also realize that not every round they will be lucky.

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November 09, 2023, 04:10:01 PM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Any addict will not value the money they need to pay for their craving.

The same happens with alcohol. It doesn't matter how much they are paying, an alcoholic will continue buying more and more bottles until they are broke.

Similar to a gambling addict, they will keep betting until they are broke.
Addiction is really a sickness, people who are addicted to gambling can be termed sicklers because that is their sickness,it brings pain to them almost every minute,and the most annoying part of it is that they find it very difficult to stop it.It is important for every gambler to know that he or she has a problem and a sickness that he must look for a way to stop,if not,their life wont make any sense.I know every gambler has a day that they will laugh,but those days are always very hard to come.
I know I'm also suffering from gambling addiction,but now I have known how to live within my means to avoid being broke every minute.

Yes addiction is indeed a disease and in my opinion it is a disease that exists in the human subconscious which lies in our brain and mindset, so of course in my opinion this is not an ordinary disease and none other than because it is difficult to find a cure. I think the cure to be able to stop this problem is in themselves, the question is whether or not they want to stop from these activities, some say yes but absolutely not with any action because their little hearts actually still want to gamble and I say that is nothing more than just nonsense.

I think whether or not it is difficult for someone to get out of the addiction zone depends on themselves because all control is in themselves and their minds, although yes I understand that if you are already addicted then it is quite difficult to get out of gambling because almost all of their minds have been dominated by curiosity and lust for opportunities in gambling which are actually just traps. Of course it's not easy, and indeed they also need help from other people such as maybe their closest family with some suggestions, and in my opinion they should start to reduce their budget or gambling time if they really want to stop because with that I'm sure slowly your interest in gambling will decrease.

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November 09, 2023, 04:15:43 PM
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Being addicted to gambling is really as if someone is mad in real life, but in this case, it's only on the way he gambles and he's likely most to be affected by the way he live his life as well, addiction will take our time and also stops us from having interest on other things, we are most likely to be broke, being an addicted gambler because all the money we have will always be chanelled towards gambling, we may loose focus on other things in such a way.
That's why people are always reminded to gamble responsibly because if you are addicted, exactly as you say, it's nothing more than someone who is crazy, that's why I, as a gambler, always give advice and remind beginners, of course those who are just getting into gambling, so that they don't gamble. go beyond the limit because if that is done then the potential for addiction will very easily stick.

People who are addicted will never care about anything around them, even family or other activities, that's why gambling addicts are very lonely and even their lives are irregular, especially if they go bankrupt because of gambling and then become poor, it really looks sad, as much as possible, never become an addict if We feel that it is best to reduce gambling activities so that the desire to gamble decreases.

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November 09, 2023, 04:19:47 PM
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Being addicted to gambling is really as if someone is mad in real life, but in this case, it's only on the way he gambles and he's likely most to be affected by the way he live his life as well, addiction will take our time and also stops us from having interest on other things, we are most likely to be broke, being an addicted gambler because all the money we have will always be chanelled towards gambling, we may loose focus on other things in such a way.
Experiencing a gambling addiction will definitely have a bad impact on our lives and if we work and earn the income we will use more of it for gambling, when we experience a gambling addiction it will certainly be very difficult to control ourselves. the games we play because we are only chasing the losses we had previously and it will be very unlikely that we can win the games we play.

Yes, you are right, if this continues to happen, it is very likely that we will go bankrupt and this will be a big problem for us and it will be very difficult to be able to focus on other things so it will really affect the life we live.

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November 09, 2023, 04:43:56 PM
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We will see this same character in most gamblers. Where a gambler starts gambling at some stage they will become addicted. People who greed more are more likely to become addicted. If any good advice is given to him at that time, he will react adversely. Their instinct is always to win at gambling. At some point, when they repeatedly lose gambling and empty their bankroll, they begin to behave differently, starting from borrowing money to manage their bankroll. Some times they take part in elligal activities. Gambling is not a problem, but once these symptoms appear, they can become deadly.
Everything you have said here are exactly what I'm seeing in the life of my younger bother. Suddenly the young man has started showing signs of addiction in gambling. He started by stealing money from my mother and spend it all on gambles, when there was no more money to steal, he started using his properties to gamble and several times I have paid money to redeem his properties like phones, footwears, cloths from people he borrowed money from just to place bet. All the symptoms mentioned above are visible in my younger brother's life. We have talked to him severally and we are tired of it, but we don't want to give up on him. What do you suggest we do now that he has these symptoms?   

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November 09, 2023, 05:06:46 PM
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the point is: when gambling you can get the high of winnings but you also get the "downs" of losing
sometimes losing can make you want to gamble again so you win

with drugs there's usually no instant "down", down comes later (as a hangover let's say)

I suspect they act on slightly different pathways in the brain but we'd have to investigate more to be sure

definitely and interesting subject.
The cerebellum is the system that controls all the activities we anticipate in daily, and that involves gambling. Dealing with gambling as an addicts is definitely going to be really challenging. The results gamblers gets from winning and losing are both slightly different. Gambling comes with ultimate targets which is to earn profits in the system, what's the ratio doubling the initial capital deposited? Though it depend on the solid strategy that follows. Gamblers are persuaded to keep wagering in the system, with the hope of having the urge to win gigantic in the system.

what do you think are the biggest reasons that make gamblers who have rules and a clear system not to stick to their system, slip and make mistakes?
being too greedy?

interesting thing to think about

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I think there's a crossover between gambling and drug addiction but many things are really different too
with drugs the person usually has a good experience
with gambling the experience could be good or bad, but even with bad experiences the addicted gambler keep hooked to it and craving for more.

I think it is quite literally the same.

When gambling, the person does feel a "high" when winning. If the gambler only experiences losses, it is very unlikely they would come back. That's why casinos design their games so that you win some times, and lose some times (with more losing), so that your brain gets the dopamine release of the wins. That's the hook.

Similarly, drugs like alcohol produce a "high" while you keep sipping your beer. That's why you need to keep drinking as it's the increase of alcohol that makes you feel good.

the point is: when gambling you can get the high of winnings but you also get the "downs" of losing
sometimes losing can make you want to gamble again so you win

with drugs there's usually no instant "down", down comes later (as a hangover let's say)

I suspect they act on slightly different pathways in the brain but we'd have to investigate more to be sure

definitely and interesting subject.

Very interesting subject, but I think there is one major difference that goes a bit missing here and that is the influence of substances that have an unavoidable effect on hormonal balances in the body and specifically in the brain. Depending on the drugs you take, but especially chemical substances fuck the brain from all directions. Gambling is indeed slightly different in that you don't manipulate your hormonal balance through exogenous chemical shocks. You still have lots of excess cortisol when you lose or also are highly excited when winning, but it is still a different mechanism as no substance collides with the natural synthesis of hormones.

great point, makes a lot of sense
there are different kinds of habits and they can trigger in a behavorial way or in a chemical way, different kinds of addiction.

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I think there's a crossover between gambling and drug addiction but many things are really different too
with drugs the person usually has a good experience
with gambling the experience could be good or bad, but even with bad experiences the addicted gambler keep hooked to it and craving for more.
Gambling and drug addiction are totally different things and should never be compared. If you want to see how different they are, ask the question, what is the motivation for both? Gamblers are motivated by the hope that they will win while drug addicts are motivated by the need to feel good and forget their sorrow or depression. So the targets and motivation are totally different.

Besides, you never can tell the extent a drug addict can go just to take the substance; the same can not be said of gamblers. Gamblers are law abiding citizens and are responsible tax payers as well. On the other hand, drug is forbidden and mostly done against the law.


literally they have different meanings and purposes, but in theory both have the same characteristics, namely that they are equally difficult to cure if they are at the addiction stage, whether it is gambling addiction or drug addiction, both have the same bad impact mental health and financial.

Gamblers and users do have different desires and yes, as you said, gamblers are law-abiding citizens, but that doesn't mean they justify this activity. In my country, it is very against gambling, so even if we know someone is gambling, even though they are law-abiding, it will still be considered bad just like drug addicts who are considered bad by society.

it's like they say in India:
same same, but different

that' why I said it's similar, but definitely not the same.

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November 09, 2023, 05:10:06 PM
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Being addicted to gambling is really as if someone is mad in real life, but in this case, it's only on the way he gambles and he's likely most to be affected by the way he live his life as well, addiction will take our time and also stops us from having interest on other things, we are most likely to be broke, being an addicted gambler because all the money we have will always be chanelled towards gambling, we may loose focus on other things in such a way.
I've made promise never to break my rules just to gamble. The madness of gambling addicts is as a result of pure addictions to the system, constant noticing and using pressures to pave paths to generate profits from the system. Gambling serves important purposes for most people, some have used gambling to achieve basic necessities of life and some have been drained and fallen to square one in life due to their participation in gambling. These set of people have become addicts who are after nothing but to keep gambling and recording heavy losses which would have shoots their standards to somewhere significant.

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November 09, 2023, 06:18:48 PM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Any addict will not value the money they need to pay for their craving.

The same happens with alcohol. It doesn't matter how much they are paying, an alcoholic will continue buying more and more bottles until they are broke.

Similar to a gambling addict, they will keep betting until they are broke.
well, that why I say as a regular gambler (not yet addicted) it would be better to appreciate the money they have before everything turns bad when a regular gambler does not appreciate the money he has and ends up becoming addicted just because he feels he has lost all his money and keeps chasing defeat.

and if we talk about the similarities between alcoholics and gambling addicts, they are indeed the same. but there are also people who drink alcohol only to warm their bodies, only drink it once or twice because they feel that alcohol can damage their body organs and it is better to drink just a little.
just like ordinary gamblers who value their money because they already know the bad effects of gambling so they only use small amounts to provide entertainment for themselves.

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November 09, 2023, 11:22:16 PM
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Being addicted to gambling is really as if someone is mad in real life, but in this case, it's only on the way he gambles and he's likely most to be affected by the way he live his life as well, addiction will take our time and also stops us from having interest on other things, we are most likely to be broke, being an addicted gambler because all the money we have will always be chanelled towards gambling, we may loose focus on other things in such a way.
I've made promise never to break my rules just to gamble. The madness of gambling addicts is as a result of pure addictions to the system, constant noticing and using pressures to pave paths to generate profits from the system. Gambling serves important purposes for most people, some have used gambling to achieve basic necessities of life and some have been drained and fallen to square one in life due to their participation in gambling. These set of people have become addicts who are after nothing but to keep gambling and recording heavy losses which would have shoots their standards to somewhere significant.


Coming to the point where you only think is to continue playing, addiction to gambling fully dominates you and there's nothing else that encircling inside your brain but to please the pleasure of your desire.  I think with addiction there's no wrong with what you think you're doing, to the point that you already dealing with something unusual and something that no one would think that will ever do.


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November 09, 2023, 11:50:01 PM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

Any addict will not value the money they need to pay for their craving.

The same happens with alcohol. It doesn't matter how much they are paying, an alcoholic will continue buying more and more bottles until they are broke.

Similar to a gambling addict, they will keep betting until they are broke.
Savings, emergency funds, investment funds.. All of those things would be neglected and would really be that forgotten on the time that they've been doing gambling.
We do know that its not something that we could really be able to think up on the time that we are gambling because our intent and hopes are really to make that huge
income or profit with it. As long you do have that kind of intent and impressions or views towards gambling then there's no way that  you could really be able to make
yourself that be stopping anytime soon. You would completely stop on the time that you would really be experiencing huge loss or doesnt have more money to proceed further.

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November 09, 2023, 11:59:03 PM
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safest thing is just to plan from home to bring enough money to gamble and keep in mind to appreciate money, no matter how small. indeed gambling addicts will not think about this no matter how much money they bring to gamble but as a regular gambler it is better to always remember how gambling works just to have fun so you don't need to bring too much money to gambling and don't need to follow other friends gambling styles. .

A lot of people do seem to copy or imitate another persons playing style and capabilities. They wouldn’t mind or are plain ignorant of the financial strength of such people and would copy them at their own detriment.
This could make one place bets with much more money than they can comfortably afford and when they end up losing such amount, there is the urgent need to try and get such funds back and the individual would end up spending more money than initially planned.
It’s safest to plan and actually stick to said plans whenever there is something that warrants spending money.
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