The madness of gambling addicts.

[nullama]

~snip~
Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

That would depend on the country but I get what you're saying.

Drugs are seen as a criminal offense, whereas they really are a health related issue.

I think there's a lot of historical things that made it like that.

Portugal for example changed all these laws and treats drug use as a health issue and not a criminal one.

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[junder]

There is a wide difference between drug addiction and gambling addiction. A rich person can choose a good clinic to cure his drug addiction if he wants. Many things can be arranged to serve him. He is also easy to identify but identifying an addicted gambler can be very difficult. Especially if he doesn't understand his addiction well. Gamblers also know that gambling is viewed socially negatively, which makes them reluctant to share their addiction with others. As a result, there is no way to understand that he is addicted. While the drug addict gets rid of his addiction or may not but the gambling addict does not get that benefit. For this an addicted gambler has to make his own decisions. However, drug addiction or gambling addiction both are difficult for the poor to recover from that position.

Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

That's true, because most countries probably don't allow people to consume drugs because there are laws regarding drug use. If you are addicted to drugs, you can be in trouble with the law, which of course will have consequences such as going to prison for a certain period of time or something else. It's true what you say, maybe the authorities like the police won't care if someone is addicted to gambling, unless they commit criminal acts, such as stealing and robbing. but in my opinion there are times when gambling can also become a problem with the police, because some countries also do not allow gambling activities. with gambling addiction, in my opinion, it will be difficult to recover, even with the help of people who are experts in healing their thinking, because people who are addicted to gambling have problems with their thinking and mental health, so it's not a physical injury but a mental one. and with drugs they won't be able to recover easily, of course if they want to recover they have to be able to resist the urge to use drugs, which in my environment is called "sakau".

What is clear is that in my opinion, addiction to these two things is equally bad, there is no benefit to be had, the things that can happen are bad things, mentally damaging. Addiction to these two things can lead them to mental damage and can make them crazy or have a mental disorder, of course, if it's like that then the chances of recovery are almost non-existent. Maybe it's true that in order to recover they have to get support from their family, no matter how bad we are, it seems like family will still help to lead to something positive.

[Jody.Drummer]

~snip~
Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

That would depend on the country but I get what you're saying.

Drugs are seen as a criminal offense, whereas they really are a health related issue.

I think there's a lot of historical things that made it like that.

Portugal for example changed all these laws and treats drug use as a health issue and not a criminal one.

I'm looking at this from the other side, and maybe I'll set the record straight, on the other hand I quite agree with you that it depends on the country itself, I mean it depends on the laws and regulations in a country, but as far as I know anything that can harm yourself and also even has the potential to harm others as a result of your actions then it should be prohibited, let's focus on the idea of "harm" which is that drug addiction and gambling addiction are both harmful, right? Yes, and both have the potential to make other people especially those around them spread this type of virus which of course can increase the population of addicts.

So if we look at it from the disadvantage side then obviously all countries should ban it, it's not about crime but more about activities or bad habits that can be detrimental, but on the other hand maybe I would say that drugs and gambling are habits that can lead to some criminal acts, and maybe you already know about how desperate gamblers and drug addicts are when they don't have money to realize their desires which is not uncommon for us to see and hear in some news media that many have to steal, rob and cheat to get money in order to finance their bad habits.

[nullama]

~snip~
I'm looking at this from the other side, and maybe I'll set the record straight, on the other hand I quite agree with you that it depends on the country itself, I mean it depends on the laws and regulations in a country, but as far as I know anything that can harm yourself and also even has the potential to harm others as a result of your actions then it should be prohibited, let's focus on the idea of "harm" which is that drug addiction and gambling addiction are both harmful, right? Yes, and both have the potential to make other people especially those around them spread this type of virus which of course can increase the population of addicts.

So if we look at it from the disadvantage side then obviously all countries should ban it, it's not about crime but more about activities or bad habits that can be detrimental, but on the other hand maybe I would say that drugs and gambling are habits that can lead to some criminal acts, and maybe you already know about how desperate gamblers and drug addicts are when they don't have money to realize their desires which is not uncommon for us to see and hear in some news media that many have to steal, rob and cheat to get money in order to finance their bad habits.

You can die from consuming pretty much anything.

Even drinking too much water too fast can kill you.

I don't think that is a good metric for banning substances.

There was a paper published in the lancet about substance damage to the user and society. Beer and tobacco were way higher than cannabis for example, yet they are legal and cannabis illegal (in some places).

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~
I'm looking at this from the other side, and maybe I'll set the record straight, on the other hand I quite agree with you that it depends on the country itself, I mean it depends on the laws and regulations in a country, but as far as I know anything that can harm yourself and also even has the potential to harm others as a result of your actions then it should be prohibited, let's focus on the idea of "harm" which is that drug addiction and gambling addiction are both harmful, right? Yes, and both have the potential to make other people especially those around them spread this type of virus which of course can increase the population of addicts.

So if we look at it from the disadvantage side then obviously all countries should ban it, it's not about crime but more about activities or bad habits that can be detrimental, but on the other hand maybe I would say that drugs and gambling are habits that can lead to some criminal acts, and maybe you already know about how desperate gamblers and drug addicts are when they don't have money to realize their desires which is not uncommon for us to see and hear in some news media that many have to steal, rob and cheat to get money in order to finance their bad habits.

You can die from consuming pretty much anything.

Even drinking too much water too fast can kill you.

I don't think that is a good metric for banning substances.

There was a paper published in the lancet about substance damage to the user and society. Beer and tobacco were way higher than cannabis for example, yet they are legal and cannabis illegal (in some places).

This makes me remember that there is a law that is being debated in Colombia, we all know that Colombia has a lot of fame regarding drugs, from Pablo Escobar, the Toad Cartel, among other things, that still exist in Colombia, now The new president proposed a bill where he wants to legalize Cannabis, cocaine and among other drugs, this in order to end addictions with drug trafficking, where each person has the right to consume a fraction in mg of a certain drug, where it is not punishable or anything like that, many have not wanted this to happen, because it would expand the degree of addiction in the world, happening primarily in Colombia, I don't know what effect it could have or if I find it a positive effect to this, but it is something that is not common, it is something that is not normal, however these things can happen in many ways according to the interpretation of many people, if you ask me, I do not agree why the drug It has brought many ugly things to many people and even death, it is something that is not very good, but since now in the world there are so many freedoms and things that seem unpleasant to me are legal, well I do not know now how to deal with these types of things nor do I know what Think now, the only thing is that I will educate my children to instill in them those values that to taught me.

I don't know if this drives addicts more crazy, but the style of these laws is a double-edged sword and I don't know if in the end they help or make addicted people worse.

[nullama]

~snip~
This makes me remember that there is a law that is being debated in Colombia, we all know that Colombia has a lot of fame regarding drugs, from Pablo Escobar, the Toad Cartel, among other things, that still exist in Colombia, now The new president proposed a bill where he wants to legalize Cannabis, cocaine and among other drugs, this in order to end addictions with drug trafficking, where each person has the right to consume a fraction in mg of a certain drug, where it is not punishable or anything like that, many have not wanted this to happen, because it would expand the degree of addiction in the world, happening primarily in Colombia, I don't know what effect it could have or if I find it a positive effect to this, but it is something that is not common, it is something that is not normal, however these things can happen in many ways according to the interpretation of many people, if you ask me, I do not agree why the drug It has brought many ugly things to many people and even death, it is something that is not very good, but since now in the world there are so many freedoms and things that seem unpleasant to me are legal, well I do not know now how to deal with these types of things nor do I know what Think now, the only thing is that I will educate my children to instill in them those values that to taught me.

I don't know if this drives addicts more crazy, but the style of these laws is a double-edged sword and I don't know if in the end they help or make addicted people worse.

An easy way to find out is to look at the prohibition in the US.

For years they banned the sell of alcohol in the US.

This created a massive black market, with gangs making a lot of money.

People still got their alcohol, but they paid their money to the underworld, plus any kid could easily buy it as they don't ask for ID.

The easiest way to stop the black market was to make it legal. That way you can actually regulate it.

Now the black market of alcohol in the US is almost non-existent in comparison to the legal one. Plus the government can tax it, and get money from it, regulate it so that kids don't get access to it, etc.

It's as simple as supply and demand.

People want drugs, that won't change. Just make them legal and the underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.

[bakasabo]

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

[mammusu]

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

When this kind of thing becomes illegal almost all over the world, they can still smuggle it in various ways and that is a huge amount of money for them. In fact, it is not uncommon for the authorities who are supposed to eradicate this to be involved in it, which is natural because they will get huge amounts of money from this illegal business. I agree with you that there is no peace with things that destroy the brains of the younger generation like this drug. You are also right, legalizing it would only make things work better for them and it would seem like they are doing the right thing if this is legalized.

I really agree with what you say, we should fight this because this will make a future that should be good become a bad future. Moreover, their targets are young people. We know that young people are generational assets whose youth is destroyed by drugs, so that will make them have a bad future and that will have a big impact on development in the country or even the world.

[Blitzboy]

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

When this kind of thing becomes illegal almost all over the world, they can still smuggle it in various ways and that is a huge amount of money for them. In fact, it is not uncommon for the authorities who are supposed to eradicate this to be involved in it, which is natural because they will get huge amounts of money from this illegal business. I agree with you that there is no peace with things that destroy the brains of the younger generation like this drug. You are also right, legalizing it would only make things work better for them and it would seem like they are doing the right thing if this is legalized.

I really agree with what you say, we should fight this because this will make a future that should be good become a bad future. Moreover, their targets are young people. We know that young people are generational assets whose youth is destroyed by drugs, so that will make them have a bad future and that will have a big impact on development in the country or even the world.

This is a horrible calamity for our youth, our nations' future. Smugglers mainly care about money, right? The terrible fact that some of those charged with stopping this are involved? Disgraceful. Absolutely shameful. We must fight this fiercely.

No, legalising drugs will never work. Like saying, if you cant beat them, join them. Wrong! Strengthen enforcement, increase penalties, and cut the money supply. No profit, no incentive. Business is straightforward.

These are our kids, the future leaders, innovators, and creators. We let drugs ruin them? I refuse. Fight back. Resisting this plague makes our nations great again. This fight is for our civilization's future, not just today.

[borovichok]

There is a wide difference between drug addiction and gambling addiction. A rich person can choose a good clinic to cure his drug addiction if he wants. Many things can be arranged to serve him. He is also easy to identify but identifying an addicted gambler can be very difficult. Especially if he doesn't understand his addiction well. Gamblers also know that gambling is viewed socially negatively, which makes them reluctant to share their addiction with others. As a result, there is no way to understand that he is addicted. While the drug addict gets rid of his addiction or may not but the gambling addict does not get that benefit. For this an addicted gambler has to make his own decisions. However, drug addiction or gambling addiction both are difficult for the poor to recover from that position.

Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

Despite the disparity you have noted, when an addicted gambler commits a crime due to his addiction he will be treated like a criminal not minding the reason he committed the crime. Remember there is no justification for committing a crime. An incident happened in my state where a gambler after losing, beat up one of the workers in a casino and he was arrested. Sometimes addiction can make a person commit a crime no wonder some countries in their wisdom to prevent gambling-related crime, prohibited gambling activity in their country.

It will be imperative to note here that some gamblers do not have self-control and disciple which are two attributes needed to be a responsible gambler. When an individual has self-control, he will not commit a crime no matter how much he loses and he will not even exceed his limit because gambling doesn’t control him but rather he controls his gambling.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~
This makes me remember that there is a law that is being debated in Colombia, we all know that Colombia has a lot of fame regarding drugs, from Pablo Escobar, the Toad Cartel, among other things, that still exist in Colombia, now The new president proposed a bill where he wants to legalize Cannabis, cocaine and among other drugs, this in order to end addictions with drug trafficking, where each person has the right to consume a fraction in mg of a certain drug, where it is not punishable or anything like that, many have not wanted this to happen, because it would expand the degree of addiction in the world, happening primarily in Colombia, I don't know what effect it could have or if I find it a positive effect to this, but it is something that is not common, it is something that is not normal, however these things can happen in many ways according to the interpretation of many people, if you ask me, I do not agree why the drug It has brought many ugly things to many people and even death, it is something that is not very good, but since now in the world there are so many freedoms and things that seem unpleasant to me are legal, well I do not know now how to deal with these types of things nor do I know what Think now, the only thing is that I will educate my children to instill in them those values that to taught me.

I don't know if this drives addicts more crazy, but the style of these laws is a double-edged sword and I don't know if in the end they help or make addicted people worse.

An easy way to find out is to look at the prohibition in the US.

For years they banned the sell of alcohol in the US.

This created a massive black market, with gangs making a lot of money.

People still got their alcohol, but they paid their money to the underworld, plus any kid could easily buy it as they don't ask for ID.

The easiest way to stop the black market was to make it legal. That way you can actually regulate it.

Now the black market of alcohol in the US is almost non-existent in comparison to the legal one. Plus the government can tax it, and get money from it, regulate it so that kids don't get access to it, etc.

It's as simple as supply and demand.

People want drugs, that won't change. Just make them legal and the underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.

Yes, in fact that is what they see in the government, but I couldn't say for sure what would actually happen, I think there would be many deaths from overdoses, and that is what they perhaps want to avoid, and it is difficult, because In society, a series of events can occur that can be unfortunate and cause the loss of many things, not only lives but also people who really are not very well mentally and start taking drugs because they will be dangerous health conditions. , it could be a solution, but what you say makes a lot of logic, the worst thing is the side effects, which will be disastrous.

I think that the USA has been maintaining a policy of very extensive freedoms, I don't know, maybe it could be because we are living in a time where things are happening because they have to happen like this and things are being revealed that before we saw them almost as a taboo, only that drugs have such a harmful effect on people that that is what is not recommended, I also assume that each of us is responsible for our actions, there the biggest problem would be in the adolescents who have access.


I think that the most difficult thing will be the effect they can have on the children, parents have to talk to them a lot, be very jealous with them in that sense, it is something that we must take care of.

[Fredomago]

Despite the disparity you have noted, when an addicted gambler commits a crime due to his addiction he will be treated like a criminal not minding the reason he committed the crime. Remember there is no justification for committing a crime. An incident happened in my state where a gambler after losing, beat up one of the workers in a casino and he was arrested. Sometimes addiction can make a person commit a crime no wonder some countries in their wisdom to prevent gambling-related crime, prohibited gambling activity in their country.

No excuses at all, they made that mistake they need to suffer out from it. Though we continue hearing or reading cases like this there's nothing that a gambler can do if they fall to this kind of situation, as there are emotions that push them and lead them to make something unexpected realizing it after the crime they've committed.

It will be imperative to note here that some gamblers do not have self-control and disciple which are two attributes needed to be a responsible gambler. When an individual has self-control, he will not commit a crime no matter how much he loses and he will not even exceed his limit because gambling doesn’t control him but rather he controls his gambling.

Yup, not generalizing but most of those who suffer from addictions are types of gamblers who can't control their emotions, they are being control and dominated by gambling inside them and they are doing things which is unusual.

[Litzki1990]

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

Drugs not only destroy the drug addict but if there is one drug addict in a family then the whole family is destroyed. The brain of a drug addict is never normal, abnormal activity occurs in the brain of a drug addict. A drug addict always tries to hide himself and does not like to behave normally as we normally behave. A person addicted to drugs always tries to commit crimes. A person who is addicted to gambling certainly never wants to kill someone or commit any such heinous crime but when one is addicted to drugs he does any heinous act for money. All kinds of heinous acts including kidnapping, murder, drug trafficking for money are done through a drug addict.

[Su-asa]

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

Drugs not only destroy the drug addict but if there is one drug addict in a family then the whole family is destroyed. The brain of a drug addict is never normal, abnormal activity occurs in the brain of a drug addict. A drug addict always tries to hide himself and does not like to behave normally as we normally behave. A person addicted to drugs always tries to commit crimes. A person who is addicted to gambling certainly never wants to kill someone or commit any such heinous crime but when one is addicted to drugs he does any heinous act for money. All kinds of heinous acts including kidnapping, murder, drug trafficking for money are done through a drug addict.

Are you insinuating that it's also the same to gamblers? If drugs addicts don't only destroys their self but destroys both their family members, which means even a gamble addict destroys his families. The children of addicted gamblers or drugs addicts suffers more than another one in the family. The addicted people might are different but when it comes to something that deals with money it affects everyone in family. It doesn't have to be that you must kill someone before it affects, every gamblers and drugs addicts don't start at once, it takes a little time for the person to like what he is doing.

[Hirose UK]

Despite the disparity you have noted, when an addicted gambler commits a crime due to his addiction he will be treated like a criminal not minding the reason he committed the crime. Remember there is no justification for committing a crime. An incident happened in my state where a gambler after losing, beat up one of the workers in a casino and he was arrested. Sometimes addiction can make a person commit a crime no wonder some countries in their wisdom to prevent gambling-related crime, prohibited gambling activity in their country.

No excuses at all, they made that mistake they need to suffer out from it. Though we continue hearing or reading cases like this there's nothing that a gambler can do if they fall to this kind of situation, as there are emotions that push them and lead them to make something unexpected realizing it after the crime they've committed.

Agree with you, those who do it, for whatever reason have still committed quite fatal mistake because crime is something that really harms other people.
Even if the crime is committed for good reason, it is still not something that can be accepted what more because they are addicted to gambling, they get serious problems which are much more difficult and make themselves considered loser.
It all depends on the mindset and attitude of each gambler, if they cannot have good control then it is clear that they will just continue to do whatever makes them feel satisfied.
Gambling addicts like this will find it increasingly difficult to cure and even though they have received the punishment they deserve, there is always the possibility of reoffending.

It will be imperative to note here that some gamblers do not have self-control and disciple which are two attributes needed to be a responsible gambler. When an individual has self-control, he will not commit a crime no matter how much he loses and he will not even exceed his limit because gambling doesn’t control him but rather he controls his gambling.

Yup, not generalizing but most of those who suffer from addictions are types of gamblers who can't control their emotions, they are being control and dominated by gambling inside them and they are doing things which is unusual.

Thinking of gambling addict is different from normal people and they are controlled by emotions that arise as result of excessive gambling activities and cannot be suppressed.
Cases like this have happened lot and this is the reason why gambling is also considered bad thing because it is all the result of gamblers doing unexpected stupid things and harming other people.

[bakasabo]

I think it it wrong to compare gambling and alcohol or drugs addictions. Alcohol destroys brain and liver, drugs in general slowly kill people. Gambling does nothing of that. I have never heard that excessive usage of gambling has lead to death. I have never heard that gambling lead to organs damage. Gambling can lead only to loosing money. That is why I find it wrong to compare or those two or three into one sentence.

[Lucasgabd]

~snip~
yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

Yeah, but at the end of the day most people can do it, at least gradually.

It is hard of course, and everyone is different, but it is simply one day at a time.

I agree, should be doable for everyone if they want
and I put it in bold because from practical experience I say that it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped
and no one is coming to save us, we have to find the best way in life by ourselves.

Well, the way you talk means to me that you are supported by a person who does like to help, but when you need help from others, no one gives it to you, and I think that has happened to a lot of people, well it has happened to many of us, But I think we have to start from that so that we don't get disappointed in those things, at least I'm very happy when I know that I'm helping a person, whether with words or whatever, but helping, do you know why? because that is the only thing that we practically come to this life to help, and to serve, because apart from that you have not realized that you help someone, with whatever it is, because it is a great satisfaction, I know that many people are not like that, but even when We feel that no one helps us and if we have a place to help, then in some way life rewards us, I say something, we will never be alone, sometimes a person can have a lot of money and be a multi-millionaire, but they don't have the health that we need. Also, they don't have the happiness that we still have even though they have so much money, because those things sometimes don't matter.

Here in the forum there are people who need help, they don't say it, but I know they need it, sometimes these types of topics are understandable because there are many ways of thinking and many ways of seeing the problems, but sometimes a piece of advice, no matter how It's silly that it seems, it helps, or can help someone get out of their addiction or that condition, in fact we are people at some point because we have to help, we have to serve others, and then we don't have to suffer, but through our children we could see those Blessings , or through our loved ones, that is something that goes away like that, but I have seen that people who act badly, in some way in the vine pay for it, and keep in mind Surely before dying you pay for the bad that you have done, and we don't know what comes after death, etnoncs the more we can help people I think that is the idea of this, of the thread, of the forum, of everything.

actually I'm supported by myself only but I have a good network of people and family who I can talk to and who would help me if I needed (financially, emotionally, so forth and so on)
my first comment was more relating to therapy, you can force someone to seek this kind of help even if they need it... but when we say "help" I see now that it can mean many things


I agree with you regarding the possibility of knowing if someone need help by the way they type, even easier to do it if you're close to the person and can feel the energy and listen to how they speak

[Rampagoe004]

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

Usually a gambler who is initially overconfident will play several large bets because he is very sure that he will win those bets. And when they lose, greed will envelope them and make them continue to increase their bets to make up for their previous losses. That's what makes someone addicted to gambling. And it would be bad behavior if you don't have the money to make a deposit. It all started due to being too confident and greedy. Therefore, being a responsible gambler is something that every gambler must have. And that requires support from friends who also gamble. Therefore, it is very important to know the nature of your fellow gamblers.

[piebeyb]

I think it it wrong to compare gambling and alcohol or drugs addictions. Alcohol destroys brain and liver, drugs in general slowly kill people. Gambling does nothing of that. I have never heard that excessive usage of gambling has lead to death. I have never heard that gambling lead to organs damage. Gambling can lead only to loosing money. That is why I find it wrong to compare or those two or three into one sentence.

Yes, it's true that gambling addiction cannot be equated with alcoholism, let alone drug addiction, because gambling will not damage anything inside, unlike alcohol and drugs, but gambling addiction can also damage the mind inside, even though it doesn't look painful or so badly that it affects the organs. but know that sometimes illness and pain come because of anxiety within a person so that it ends up being painful in the end. although it does not hurt internal organs and cause death.

There are several cases where someone who is addicted to gambling and has a lot of debt from loan sharks also ultimately makes the decision to end his life by committing suicide because his mental state is making him worse and worse, for me all three are the same even though there are slight differences but in the end everything will be the same Also, gambling addiction can also cause death, although not because of something that damages the organs such as alcohol and drugs, but the danger of mental illness is also quite dangerous because it can make people excessively frustrated and ultimately make them kill themselves. So it's not surprising that there have been quite a lot of gambling addicts committing suicide in my country recently because they were in debt because of gambling.

[BlackBaron]

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

Usually a gambler who is initially overconfident will play several large bets because he is very sure that he will win those bets. And when they lose, greed will envelope them and make them continue to increase their bets to make up for their previous losses. That's what makes someone addicted to gambling. And it would be bad behavior if you don't have the money to make a deposit. It all started due to being too confident and greedy. Therefore, being a responsible gambler is something that every gambler must have. And that requires support from friends who also gamble. Therefore, it is very important to know the nature of your fellow gamblers.

This type of person does not learn how to gamble, follows instinct and considers it a benchmark for winning a bet, which in essence there is no guarantee of winning. Principles like that very quickly make a person bankrupt and depressed, because in his mind he can win and return the money he has lost in betting. This sense of self-confidence is misplaced, and it is difficult to bring awareness to people who hold such principles.