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July 04, 2023, 03:23:22 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.
Last season was a very bad season for Real Madrid. They failed to do anything in the Primera and they were very harshly humiliated by Manchester City in the Champions League. Next season they won't have Benzema, their best player. So I don't know how they can do well next year.

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July 04, 2023, 03:56:53 PM
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Last season was a very bad season for Real Madrid. They failed to do anything in the Primera and they were very harshly humiliated by Manchester City in the Champions League. Next season they won't have Benzema, their best player. So I don't know how they can do well next year.
It's a shame what Real Madrid experienced last season, they seemed to have lost their way in the domestic league and in the Champions League they couldn't do what they usually did to silence their opponents in the second leg. But last season Manchester City was the best team at the moment and with their squad depth far above Real Madrid, it was only fitting that Manchester City could bring Real Madrid home in the semifinals of the Champions League. Now Ancelotti's job is even tougher as a replacement for Benzema is not yet available for next season's Champions League and Real Madrid could be in a stalemate to score goals if they don't have a great forward for the number 9 shirt next.

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July 04, 2023, 04:09:06 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.
Last season was a very bad season for Real Madrid. They failed to do anything in the Primera and they were very harshly humiliated by Manchester City in the Champions League. Next season they won't have Benzema, their best player. So I don't know how they can do well next year.

To be honest, even though I'm not a Real Madrid fan, but when it comes to Real Madrid, of course, Real Madrid still deserves to be called the best club. Yes indeed, although last season Real Madrid failed to win the trophy in La Liga and also in the Champions League, but I still recognize that Real Madrid remains one of the best clubs in the world.

Also, even though Benzema won't be playing for Real Madrid next season, I'm sure that won't make Real Madrid any weaker or less productive. Because after all, Real Madrid have also been left behind by their key players, their great players and their star players.
But the truth is, Real Madrid have always managed to make and or reshuffle to regenerate their squad. Therefore, Real Madrid are used to this kind of situation and surely, Real Madrid will be able to handle it well.

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July 04, 2023, 04:21:55 PM
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Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.
Real Madrid are the best team in Champions League history, but they weren't the best team in Europe last season as they failed to win the title. Even Real Madrid wasn't the best team in Spain last season as Barcelona managed to win two titles. I won't blame you for assuming that Real Madrid is the best team in the history of the Champions League, of course I agree. But you also have to admit that they were one of the worst teams last season in the Champions League compared to Inter and Manchester City.

I also have to say the same as everyone else even if Real Madrid have a great history in the Champions League. When they fail to make it to the final and win the title, it is only fair for them to be called a bad team in terms of performance and achievements.

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July 04, 2023, 04:26:19 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.

@Yawa2020, if I understand correctly, you mentioned that Real Madrid may not be the best club in the world overall, but they excel in the Champions League. Now, let me ask you, is there any other league that is more captivating than the Champions League? As long as the most-watched league in the world is dominated by a specific club, it's reasonable to consider them the best in the world, and they will continue to hold that title until another championship can match their achievements.

Real Madrid may have had a bad season because I was also not happy with their achievement last season but they are still in good shape, they didn't add to the team when they won the last Champions League and I believe Marcelo left the club which must have contributed to their underperformance but I think this season should be better when they resume back with some new exceptional players.

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July 04, 2023, 05:03:27 PM
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Real Madrid are really making an aggressive signing campaign
in my opinion since Barcelona has recovered they have woken up a little and the competition is always good, especially the beauty of the matches and the competition
I really hope a strong third team joins, I don't know, Sevilla? What do you think

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July 04, 2023, 05:58:51 PM
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A lot of people thinking City will win it again but we need to think about two things before we can decide, I wouldn't bet right now of course. First of all we need to consider how City will be, they will have some changes in the roster and that means they are not going to be that easy to predict what's going to happen, they haven't had their "big" transfer of the season so far and I think they will have it either this month or latest start of next month.

After we are certain what the roster will be like for City, we also need to start looking into other teams that have a chance, if those teams could have a good result or not and if they could end up getting big names instead, that could definitely end up changing some stuff for sure.

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July 04, 2023, 06:09:55 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.

The Real Madrid team was quite strong last season. But I doubt if they can stay stable next season. Because Real Madrid lost their best striker Benzema. However, Real Madrid's overall performance is very good. The bonding between the players is excellent. And so I don't think Real Madrid's performance will deteriorate too much after losing Benzema. I think Madrid's performance in La Liga and Champions League will continue in the next season as well.

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July 04, 2023, 06:10:35 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.
Given that a team has won the highest number of Champions League trophies ever, we are completely wrong to think that they will win the Champions League trophy every season. Because the other teams participating in the Champions League all dream of winning the Champions League trophy. Everyone prepares and among all the preparations, those who prepare better and who can consistently perform well on the field at the end of a season are seen as the team that has achieved success.

Such was the case with Manchester City who won the Champions League trophy last season. Along with Manchester City, Real Madrid was considered as one of the most favorites to win the Champions League trophy. But in the end, Manchester City secured the Champions League title by defeating Real Madrid in the semi-finals and Inter Milan in the final.  
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July 04, 2023, 06:42:47 PM
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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.
Of the many trophies Real Madrid has won, I think it's appropriate to say Real Madrid is the best team even though last season Real Madrid failed to win the UCL. Because I don't think it's fair to say Real Madrid has gone bad after their failure last season. After all, at this time Real Madrid is also still trying to get the best players to be even better next season by keeping their minds calm even though they failed to win the league last season.
Last season was a very bad season for Real Madrid. They failed to do anything in the Primera and they were very harshly humiliated by Manchester City in the Champions League. Next season they won't have Benzema, their best player. So I don't know how they can do well next year.

Real Madrid is the best team because they have won more trophies than any other team (some teams have only won a fraction of them), and when you look at the team's roster, nothing has changed. Only the addition of Karim Benzema has led some to believe that Real Madrid won't be able to perform as well as they once did, but when the league season begins, I think everyone will realise that Real Madrid still has young players like Vini Jr., Rodrigo, Camavinga and Bellingham, a new sign player, I think these guys will contribute well to Real Madrid's 2023–2024 season.
Real Madrid should cool off so they can develop plans and sign young players rather than waste time on mbappe, who does not want to leave PSG this year.

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July 04, 2023, 06:46:57 PM
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A lot of people thinking City will win it again but we need to think about two things before we can decide, I wouldn't bet right now of course. First of all we need to consider how City will be, they will have some changes in the roster and that means they are not going to be that easy to predict what's going to happen, they haven't had their "big" transfer of the season so far and I think they will have it either this month or latest start of next month.

After we are certain what the roster will be like for City, we also need to start looking into other teams that have a chance, if those teams could have a good result or not and if they could end up getting big names instead, that could definitely end up changing some stuff for sure.
I will not think about who will be the winner because it is still very long, their league has not yet started let alone the Champions League of course this is still very far away, so I will not conclude anything because obviously other teams also have the same plan to win the Champions League but the proof cannot be done before this season starts of course it will be seen from the other side.

The transfer window will be an interesting thing from every other European club, besides Manchester City there are other teams that make transfers with big spending to recruit several players while Manchester City only bought a few players to strengthen their lines in the sense that this team is still quite stable, but anything can happen to beat other teams I believe that.

Every new season there must always be a reshuffle in the players, I believe Manchetser City will still be the strongest candidate, other teams are the same this is a big enough competition league, to bet later when the preliminary round starts it will be even more interesting.

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July 04, 2023, 06:54:55 PM
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Real Madrid next season will surely be better than this season because in this transfer process they will made an effort to sign players that can really add quality to their side. Bellingham is undoubtedly a very talented player. With an experienced squad like Madrid, he will become more experienced. In my opinion, Bellingham become a legendary player for Madrid in the future like Modric. I think Bellingham has the potential. Also Real Madrid need to strong striker like Kylian Mbappé. Madrid must succeed in bringing Mbappe from PSG.

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July 04, 2023, 07:24:21 PM
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Real Madrid are really making an aggressive signing campaign
in my opinion since Barcelona has recovered they have woken up a little and the competition is always good, especially the beauty of the matches and the competition
I really hope a strong third team joins, I don't know, Sevilla? What do you think

Sevilla won't join, but Atletico Madrid looks likely. Sevilla were winners of the Europa League title last season and they may build a better squad for next season, but they often can't compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona at the top of the table. Especially in the Champions League, Sevilla were too weak to qualify for the semi-finals.

I don't have many doubts about Barcelona next season after they found their best form last season. Barcelona can still improve instead of being completely satisfied with their form and success last season, but all of this really depends on the player's willingness and hard work. Of course Real Madrid is aware of that and they are starting to prepare to compete better next season, and the third team in the race for the title is Atletico Madrid.

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I'm curious about the Tuchel era for Bayern Munich. The last time Bayern Munich made it to the Champions League was the 2019/20 season. The interesting thing is that Tuchel was managing PSG back then and they were the opponent of Bayern Munich in the finale.  Grin  Tuchel has a really big potential to win this title with big teams.

I think it is time for doing it with Bayern Munich. But this time I will be expecting more than qualifying for the finale. If Bayern Munich make the right transfers and prepare the squad for the season solidly I don't see any reason to not see them being very competitive for this title. Tuchel has all the time to have a good relationship with the players.

I hope Bayern Munich work out the situation about a top striker transfer also.

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I'm curious about the Tuchel era for Bayern Munich. The last time Bayern Munich made it to the Champions League was the 2019/20 season. The interesting thing is that Tuchel was managing PSG back then and they were the opponent of Bayern Munich in the finale.  Grin  Tuchel has a really big potential to win this title with big teams.

I think it is time for doing it with Bayern Munich. But this time I will be expecting more than qualifying for the finale. If Bayern Munich make the right transfers and prepare the squad for the season solidly I don't see any reason to not see them being very competitive for this title. Tuchel has all the time to have a good relationship with the players.

I hope Bayern Munich work out the situation about a top striker transfer also.
I don't believe Bayern Munich will be able to return to the Champions League final in the next 1-3 seasons if the squad depth is not increased. Not only do they have striker problems, they are very different compared to last season. The team's confidence changes when an important person in the team leaves, but if they get a suitable replacement then maybe the confidence will recover.

Even though Tuchel has experience in several Champions League finals, I'm not sure he can win it with Bayern Munich. Tuchel is great, but will not be as lucky as Chelsea a few seasons ago especially regarding the Champions League title.

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July 04, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
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Real Madrid next season will surely be better than this season because in this transfer process they will made an effort to sign players that can really add quality to their side. Bellingham is undoubtedly a very talented player. With an experienced squad like Madrid, he will become more experienced. In my opinion, Bellingham become a legendary player for Madrid in the future like Modric. I think Bellingham has the potential. Also Real Madrid need to strong striker like Kylian Mbappé. Madrid must succeed in bringing Mbappe from PSG.

It is optimistic to say that Real Madrid will change things for the better undoubtedly because even when Bellingham is a great player who has shown his quality in many games already, Borussia Dortmund is not Real Madrid. Nobody knows whether it works from day one or whether he needs some time to get accustomed to his new teammates and everything else. But the striker position is still an open wound in the team that they need to cure most importantly. The supply side in the transfer market for high quality strikers is very thin and the players who are available are so expensive that even Real Madrid has to think avout potential transfers and first check what is possible for them.

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July 04, 2023, 08:36:27 PM
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It is optimistic to say that Real Madrid will change things for the better undoubtedly because even when Bellingham is a great player who has shown his quality in many games already, Borussia Dortmund is not Real Madrid. Nobody knows whether it works from day one or whether he needs some time to get accustomed to his new teammates and everything else. But the striker position is still an open wound in the team that they need to cure most importantly. The supply side in the transfer market for high quality strikers is very thin and the players who are available are so expensive that even Real Madrid has to think avout potential transfers and first check what is possible for them.
Yes I agree with you, every player definitely needs time to adapt to his new team. Whether it's the style of play, the formation of the coach and of course the emotional relationship with other fellow players. There are lots of star players who failed to shine after joining Madrid, most recently Hazard who has left there. Purchased at a high price from Chelsea he failed to show his best quality in Madrid.

For strikers I think Madrid, especially Ancelotti, still have many options to rotate their players, Joselu, who is on loan from Espanyol, could be an option. Although at this time Ancelotti really wants to get a replacement that is commensurate with Benzema, he seems to be very careful in recruiting new players so that the same thing does not happen like the hazard that failed since the first season. Slowly but surely, Ancelotti is building his squad to reach the Champions League Final next season and win the La Liga title from Barcelona.

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July 04, 2023, 09:05:18 PM
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Zidane spoke separately about winning the Champions League three times in a row and he claimed that it was the result of his hard work (which exhausted him and deprived him of sleep), and no luck. I agree that there is a share of luck everywhere (in fact, this is just a variance of a random variable, speaking in the language of mathematics), but the strongest are lucky and you should not underestimate other people's merits  Smiley

I am not underestimating other peoples' merits in the slightest, but don't we agree that goals like these won Zidane the Champions League? Also watch this one at the 2:00 minute mark. I am ready to receive and have a look at counter examples where the referee decision was clearly made against Real Madrid and cost them the game. But I tried to find a summary of decisions that were against Real Madrid and I couldn't really find something that was blatantly obvious against Real Madrid and decisive for the game end result. Almost all of those decisions that led to Real Madrid advancing through goals and red cards would not happen these days with the VAR. Almost none of them.

Maybe there were no "decisive" mistakes against Real, since Real turned all the mistakes against themselves into insignificant by winning with a convincing score?  Wink
Believe me, I am very familiar with the topic of refereeing mistakes (opinions of various fan bases), I know such terms as Evrebelona  Grin and others, but I see no reason to discuss all this - mistakes and even conspiracies are part of football.
And in this imperfect football, Zidane won the Champions League three times in a row. When someone appears who can repeat this, it will be possible to compare their “purity” or some other secondary indicators, but now Zidane is one and this is a great achievement that cannot be underestimated.

I am not talking from the perspective of a particular fan base. I am talking as someone who understands rules in soccer, playing myself and watching the games. I have nothing against Real Madrid, I admire their midfield and the various individual players for their achievements like Ronaldo and many others. But the video I shared really is showing horrible referee decisions. More horrible than I have seen for any other club to have been lucky due to wrong or bad referee decisions. That video is insane. i think it is superficial to say that a goal is a goal when the referee awards it. When a goal is scored against the rules and decides a game like a final in some of the most important competitions, it is wrong. It is not fate, it is wrong. In a league luck usually evens out over the course of a season, in World Cups and Champions League games it often doesn't.

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July 04, 2023, 10:11:21 PM
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I'm curious about the Tuchel era for Bayern Munich. The last time Bayern Munich made it to the Champions League was the 2019/20 season. The interesting thing is that Tuchel was managing PSG back then and they were the opponent of Bayern Munich in the finale.  Grin  Tuchel has a really big potential to win this title with big teams.

I think it is time for doing it with Bayern Munich. But this time I will be expecting more than qualifying for the finale. If Bayern Munich make the right transfers and prepare the squad for the season solidly I don't see any reason to not see them being very competitive for this title. Tuchel has all the time to have a good relationship with the players.

I hope Bayern Munich work out the situation about a top striker transfer also.

Bayern Munich still remains a big club. Now with a coach who has won it before with Chelsea,  there's every possibility of seeing Bayern Munich winning the Champions league next season.  Not this season because  they don't look sharp attacking they have  to get a magical finisher. A player who has no other work but to covert those goals in. Thomas Tuchel has the ability to do that.
They have wanted player Harry Kane but he is not looking sure for the move to Bayern Munich.  You're correct when you say they should get the signature of the a strike done,  it will affect  the goal scoring rate next season.

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Bayern Munich still remains a big club. Now with a coach who has won it before with Chelsea,  there's every possibility of seeing Bayern Munich winning the Champions league next season.  Not this season because  they don't look sharp attacking they have  to get a magical finisher. A player who has no other work but to covert those goals in. Thomas Tuchel has the ability to do that.
They have wanted player Harry Kane but he is not looking sure for the move to Bayern Munich.  You're correct when you say they should get the signature of the a strike done,  it will affect  the goal scoring rate next season.
Bayern munich has always been a strong team in every season in the Champions League. They are highly calculated by their opponents. Even though they have been fasting for the UCL title for a long time, no one denies that they are a weak team. Last season we saw Bayern Munich being able to compete with many big teams, even though their squad depth did not have an aggressive enough attacker, Bayern Munich overall strength was quite strong.

Especially next season Bayern Munich has a coach who has achieved great success in the UCL while with Chelsea. So there is a great expectation that Bayern Munich will be able to provide strong resistance next season. Bayern munich just need to add their strength to their front line.

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