UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[hahay]

I can understand that as I myself think that the first player who comes to mind when talking Tottenham is Kane and when you talk about Kane , Tottenham comes to one's mind. It would be a big loss for them and that is why I believe they will offer him a lot of money for a last signature from him.

This kind of problem always exists with players who stand out at a club. It's like the case of Ronaldo or Messi, the expectation of all fans on them is to stay at the club. How much money with a new contract will not make Kane comfortable if his heart is uncomfortable. His second move may have already peaked, last season he failed to leave. I felt some time at the beginning of last season Kane seemed to have a decline in quality. But he was able to perform professionally, he scored 30 goals in the EPL. But Tottenham suffered a final drop in the EPL.

That's what I thought as well last season when he decided to not leave Tottenham it was as if he missed the boat for the final part of his career. But he did perform really well and scored this high number of goals but the issue is: for what? Of course it is awesome for him to have this goal count and the performance in general, but when it does not come with titles then what is it worth? I have no reason to make his achievements smaller than they are because they are great and everyone acknowledges that. It is more that I feel sorry for him because a player of his category should be able to tell about titles as well one day. That he scored the goal in the final and won the trophy or something, but that is not possible with Tottenham.

Yes indeed, even if for example Kane really left for Bayern Munich and then played in the Champions League it would still be good, even though in the end it would still be difficult to win a trophy in this Champions League. But yes, at least if Kane plays at Bayern Munich, then at least a Bundesliga trophy can be an achievement that he will certainly get. So bottom line is, it's time for Kane to play for a better club that can have a big chance of dominating at least in the domestic league. Because yes, if Kane continues to play at Tottenham then there will be no achievements that he can achieve during his career.

[Stable090]

I don't agree with you, even when Haaland have  not been signed into Manchester City the club have been doing well.  So don't make it looks as if Haaland is the reason why Manchester City won the Champions League . No doubt Haaland is  a talented player and Is coming to Manchester City strengthen the squad more , Manchester City players worked as a team to win the Champions League and the Premier league. These Victories was not as a result of one player , they all contributed for this  victories. If Haaland is no more in Manchester City the team will still do well like when Haaland have not been signed in.

Why will you say Manchester City won the Champions league just because of Haaland, we know  Haaland is a talented and dangerous player, he contributed to the success of Manchester City in both premier league, Champions league and FA cup. But we all know Manchester City to be a strong club even before Haaland came, their are some important matches towards the ending of the season Haaland didn’t perform well and Manchester city still won those matches, we all saw that Real Madrid didn’t give Haaland opportunity in their first leg  in champions league and Manchester city still manage to draw the match. Manchester city is full of talented players so I can say they performed well because of just one player.

[Ndabagi01]

De Bruyne was signed in 2015, even before Pep got there, so I do not think that has anything to do with it. I am not saying Haaland had nothing to do with it, of course he is an amazing player and of course he helped them a ton. However, it would be weird to say that just a single transfer made them win and it was just Haaland, by that logic last season Dortmund should have won because they had Haaland as well.

Manchester City's achievement in the recently finished season, in which they won the treble, was not the work of a single person, and credit cannot be attributed to just one person. It wasn't just De Bruyne or Haaland that made them successful; it was the entire Manchester City team, and they couldn't have won without that collective effort. No matter how strong a player is, his expertise and experience will not be enough to carry the team on his shoulders and win a title. To do this, each player's expertise and experience must be combined.

[klidex]

I don't agree with you, even when Haaland have  not been signed into Manchester City the club have been doing well.  So don't make it looks as if Haaland is the reason why Manchester City won the Champions League . No doubt Haaland is  a talented player and Is coming to Manchester City strengthen the squad more , Manchester City players worked as a team to win the Champions League and the Premier league. These Victories was not as a result of one player , they all contributed for this  victories. If Haaland is no more in Manchester City the team will still do well like when Haaland have not been signed in.

Why will you say Manchester City won the Champions league just because of Haaland, we know  Haaland is a talented and dangerous player, he contributed to the success of Manchester City in both premier league, Champions league and FA cup. But we all know Manchester City to be a strong club even before Haaland came, their are some important matches towards the ending of the season Haaland didn’t perform well and Manchester city still won those matches, we all saw that Real Madrid didn’t give Haaland opportunity in their first leg  in champions league and Manchester city still manage to draw the match. Manchester city is full of talented players so I can say they performed well because of just one player.

I agree with your argument because it's true that we can't just say all that thanks to haaland but Manchester city has been a very strong club for a long time and we can see that even in the champions league final haaland couldn't give a goal.
This is enough proof that Haaland is not fully a mainstay for Manchester City, but all of this is the contribution of all Manchester City players who are very solid.

[Tony116]

I don't agree with you, even when Haaland have  not been signed into Manchester City the club have been doing well.  So don't make it looks as if Haaland is the reason why Manchester City won the Champions League . No doubt Haaland is  a talented player and Is coming to Manchester City strengthen the squad more , Manchester City players worked as a team to win the Champions League and the Premier league. These Victories was not as a result of one player , they all contributed for this  victories. If Haaland is no more in Manchester City the team will still do well like when Haaland have not been signed in.

Why will you say Manchester City won the Champions league just because of Haaland, we know  Haaland is a talented and dangerous player, he contributed to the success of Manchester City in both premier league, Champions league and FA cup. But we all know Manchester City to be a strong club even before Haaland came, their are some important matches towards the ending of the season Haaland didn’t perform well and Manchester city still won those matches, we all saw that Real Madrid didn’t give Haaland opportunity in their first leg  in champions league and Manchester city still manage to draw the match. Manchester city is full of talented players so I can say they performed well because of just one player.

There is actually no reason to say that Manchester City was able to win the Champions League just because of Erling Haaland. Of course, he is a very important player for Manchester City. He was also very effective for Manchester City in the matches before the semifinals in the finals. But we could see that in the final matches of the tournament, he was just used as a bait. Of course, he was very important. But he was not the only important player and he was certainly not the only reason for which Manchester City was able to win the Champions League.

[slapper]

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I just don't like it when the "the hand of god" scores a goal in football and people say "same chances for everyone, they could have scored a goal with their hands as well". That is not how I understand competition on the highest level. For me that is competing with each other while being subject to the same rules and abiding to those rules in the same way while being judged by a referee in the same way. That is why a league of 38 games is also different than a competition like a World Cup or the Champions League. Luck (or the lack thereof) usually evens out throughout a season. Privilege (like in the case of Real Madrid) does not. Your argument makes the case that everyone has equal chance in having their breaking the rules behavior go undetected and therefore whoever wins deserves the win, since the other team could also have scored offside goals, circumvent red cards by injuring an opponent's player "the smart way" or scoring a goal with the hand such that the referee doesn't blow the whistle. This still neglects that Real Madrid has more influence on the game and the people behind it than any other club, but still. You say "whoever breaks the rules without getting caught is doing ok because the others could have done the same". I am not that kind of guy and that is why I am a big fan of the VAR and any other measure to reduce shenanigans. Nobody wants to watch an Atletico Madrid game when they have the lead in minute 25 because everyone knows that the game afterwards has nothing to do with soccer as cramps start even in the first half then. 

I see your point of view, but maybe we're being too pure. Like any other sport, football has its fair share of controversy. Although the "Hand of God" was a blatant violation of protocol, such an event does not happen frequently. Now, I agree with you that the duration of a league is the defining factor in distinguishing it from a tournament like the World Cup or the Champions League. A single referee's call can have an outsized effect in a shorter tournament.

Can you believe Roma and Sevilla had such a disastrous Europa League match? It was a classic case of a questionable referee call swinging the outcome. Even though they're terrible, accidents like that only add to the sport's inherent danger and excitement. Should we welcome this or avoid it? I think it's fair to consider this a given at this point. Because, as the saying goes, "humans are fallible."

[Leviathan.007]

In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach while other teams in the champions league like Manchester City and especially Real Madrid are all trying to hire better players and improve their performance.
From what we saw in Real Madrid they are even trying for Mbappe and this makes Real Madrid much stronger than last season.  

[skarais]

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Manchester City's achievement in the recently finished season, in which they won the treble, was not the work of a single person, and credit cannot be attributed to just one person. It wasn't just De Bruyne or Haaland that made them successful; it was the entire Manchester City team, and they couldn't have won without that collective effort. No matter how strong a player is, his expertise and experience will not be enough to carry the team on his shoulders and win a title. To do this, each player's expertise and experience must be combined.

Everyone on the team contributes, it doesn't matter if it's medical staff, training staff, or anyone else. Pep Guardiola acts as a strategist and develops the abilities of his players. He has proven his quality and capacity, of course because he really has the support of the owners and the players love him.

Manchester City is an unstoppable team, but the Premier League will be tougher next season. I doubt Manchester City can defend their title for the fourth time in four consecutive seasons, but they are still very good. Their squad depth is still good, but Pep Guardiola is also aware of the potential for non-title next season due to other teams starting to improve the quality of their teams.

[nelson4lov]

In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach while other teams in the champions league like Manchester City and especially Real Madrid are all trying to hire better players and improve their performance.
From what we saw in Real Madrid they are even trying for Mbappe and this makes Real Madrid much stronger than last season.  

I won't be surprised to see them enter the market before it closes. Oshimen is still in the team for at least another year so their attack is still going to be top class. But then again, a good attack or an all-round solid squad is nothing without a good coach to back them. Garcia might not be a top tier manager but I feel like he has some promises. We'd have to wait till the season gets into full swing to fully evaluate his performance with this team.

Madrid is taking time to strengthen areas that they were evidently lacking in the just concluded UCL tournament. Modric and Kros were given a run for their money by city midfielders so signing Bellingham was a step, one taken inbthe right direction.

[Distraction]

I'm curious about the Tuchel era for Bayern Munich. The last time Bayern Munich made it to the Champions League was the 2019/20 season. The interesting thing is that Tuchel was managing PSG back then and they were the opponent of Bayern Munich in the finale.    Tuchel has a really big potential to win this title with big teams.

I think it is time for doing it with Bayern Munich. But this time I will be expecting more than qualifying for the finale. If Bayern Munich make the right transfers and prepare the squad for the season solidly I don't see any reason to not see them being very competitive for this title. Tuchel has all the time to have a good relationship with the players.

I hope Bayern Munich work out the situation about a top striker transfer also.

I don't believe Bayern Munich will be able to return to the Champions League final in the next 1-3 seasons if the squad depth is not increased. Not only do they have striker problems, they are very different compared to last season. The team's confidence changes when an important person in the team leaves, but if they get a suitable replacement then maybe the confidence will recover.

Even though Tuchel has experience in several Champions League finals, I'm not sure he can win it with Bayern Munich. Tuchel is great, but will not be as lucky as Chelsea a few seasons ago especially regarding the Champions League title.

Actually Tuchel doesn't need to get that much lucky with Bayern Munich. Besides back then I can't say that he was even too lucky or so. Yes, maybe Chelsea weren't among the favourites and surprised everyone by reaching the finale and even winning the title by beating Manchester City. But I can't just overlook his great tactical moves which also helped them get this huge achievement.

Now Tuchel has a way better team like Bayern Munich in hand. The general player quality is way better. The only and important problem is that they still haven't completed the striker signing. After that they will be ready to rock again. The only thing they need will be the right management by Tuchel in that situation.

[Asiska02]

I don't agree with you, even when Haaland have  not been signed into Manchester City the club have been doing well.  So don't make it looks as if Haaland is the reason why Manchester City won the Champions League . No doubt Haaland is  a talented player and Is coming to Manchester City strengthen the squad more , Manchester City players worked as a team to win the Champions League and the Premier league. These Victories was not as a result of one player , they all contributed for this  victories. If Haaland is no more in Manchester City the team will still do well like when Haaland have not been signed in.

Mind you, we can’t deny the fact that some certain players addition or presence in the team mostly contribute to the victory of the whole team. A player like Haaland is such person that has contributed immensely to the victory of the Manchester City team last season.

There’s no point to do all the hardwork and the last person to get the job finished for the team can’t do it, the whole team will fail woefully and it won’t be blamed on individual now, but rather the whole squad. Haaland is such player that is just there to finish the struggle of the whole team and make them triumph.

The group effort of every team makes them win and go far in any game and that’s the case of Manchester City and I applaud all the players for a job welldone last season.

[Frankolala]

I don't agree with you, even when Haaland have  not been signed into Manchester City the club have been doing well.  So don't make it looks as if Haaland is the reason why Manchester City won the Champions League . No doubt Haaland is  a talented player and Is coming to Manchester City strengthen the squad more , Manchester City players worked as a team to win the Champions League and the Premier league. These Victories was not as a result of one player , they all contributed for this  victories. If Haaland is no more in Manchester City the team will still do well like when Haaland have not been signed in.

Why will you say Manchester City won the Champions league just because of Haaland, we know  Haaland is a talented and dangerous player, he contributed to the success of Manchester City in both premier league, Champions league and FA cup. But we all know Manchester City to be a strong club even before Haaland came, their are some important matches towards the ending of the season Haaland didn’t perform well and Manchester city still won those matches, we all saw that Real Madrid didn’t give Haaland opportunity in their first leg  in champions league and Manchester city still manage to draw the match. Manchester city is full of talented players so I can say they performed well because of just one player.

Manchester City didn't win the champions league because of Haalad,they won because they were the strongest team last season and it was a lucky season for them. Though,Haalad contributed to City's success but it wasn't only him because a tree can't make a forest.

Man City has Dr bruyne and even Gundogan,the combination of Manchester city players and playing bond with luck brought the treble for City. I will say that Haalad was lucky to be in Manchester City when they won the treble. City has tried for so long to win UCL and last season gave them that victory. What I have come to understand in UCL is that any club that is always consistent in teaching the Semifinals for three consecutive season will end up winning the league at last.

[shogun47]

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I just don't like it when the "the hand of god" scores a goal in football and people say "same chances for everyone, they could have scored a goal with their hands as well". That is not how I understand competition on the highest level. For me that is competing with each other while being subject to the same rules and abiding to those rules in the same way while being judged by a referee in the same way. That is why a league of 38 games is also different than a competition like a World Cup or the Champions League. Luck (or the lack thereof) usually evens out throughout a season. Privilege (like in the case of Real Madrid) does not. Your argument makes the case that everyone has equal chance in having their breaking the rules behavior go undetected and therefore whoever wins deserves the win, since the other team could also have scored offside goals, circumvent red cards by injuring an opponent's player "the smart way" or scoring a goal with the hand such that the referee doesn't blow the whistle. This still neglects that Real Madrid has more influence on the game and the people behind it than any other club, but still. You say "whoever breaks the rules without getting caught is doing ok because the others could have done the same". I am not that kind of guy and that is why I am a big fan of the VAR and any other measure to reduce shenanigans. Nobody wants to watch an Atletico Madrid game when they have the lead in minute 25 because everyone knows that the game afterwards has nothing to do with soccer as cramps start even in the first half then. 

I see your point of view, but maybe we're being too pure. Like any other sport, football has its fair share of controversy. Although the "Hand of God" was a blatant violation of protocol, such an event does not happen frequently. Now, I agree with you that the duration of a league is the defining factor in distinguishing it from a tournament like the World Cup or the Champions League. A single referee's call can have an outsized effect in a shorter tournament.

Can you believe Roma and Sevilla had such a disastrous Europa League match? It was a classic case of a questionable referee call swinging the outcome. Even though they're terrible, accidents like that only add to the sport's inherent danger and excitement. Should we welcome this or avoid it? I think it's fair to consider this a given at this point. Because, as the saying goes, "humans are fallible."

It is not that I don't get the point KTChampions is making. I understand that and I am also not arguing about so called controversial decisions where you could in a small number of cases even argue against or for a decision that was made, which is often the case with hand balls, really difficult and that is not what I am discussing. But when you look at the offside goals Ronaldo scored or at least the first one, which was quite decisive in that game, that would have never happened with a VAR because he was offside around 1 meter and more. I as a fan don't want those goals to happen because a well functioning defense gets punished for their accuracy. That's stupid. I prefer that the best team wins and I also accept that the more efficient team wins even when it wasn't better. But when a team wins that broke more rules or was lucky getting away with it, that's not really what I like to see.

[Ndabagi01]

In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach while other teams in the champions league like Manchester City and especially Real Madrid are all trying to hire better players and improve their performance.
From what we saw in Real Madrid they are even trying for Mbappe and this makes Real Madrid much stronger than last season.  

Napoli are still the Serie A title favourites for next season, but I wouldn't be surprised if they recruit more players to bolster their team after selling some of them to other clubs. If Napoli has no plan B for how they intend to sell its present best players, we may assume that they are only here to earn money and have not taken the club's name seriously in winning trophies, which is where every player's career is built.

Real Madrid requires fresh players to make some positions stronger and more resourceful than they were previously. Real Madrid always signs strategically, and their acquisitions are always of high quality. It is rare that they do not get to sign a player they want to join them. When it comes to signing new players, their fame and financial standing always speak for them.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach while other teams in the champions league like Manchester City and especially Real Madrid are all trying to hire better players and improve their performance.
From what we saw in Real Madrid they are even trying for Mbappe and this makes Real Madrid much stronger than last season.  

The role of their coach was behind the great performance of Napoli last season. They are going to lose their coach next season. And more importantly, the team is going to lose several key players in the squad. And so one should not expect a very good performance from Napoli next season. Their performance next season will be like that of any average team.

Real Madrid are trying to sign Mbappe after their main striker Benzema left the team. However, as a replacement for Benzema, they brought in Espanyol's star player Joselu. If Joselu is able to adapt to the Madrid squad next season, Madrid's performance will remain stable even without Mbappe in the squad.

[Adams0001]

Napoli are still the Serie A title favourites for next season, but I wouldn't be surprised if they recruit more players to bolster their team after selling some of them to other clubs. If Napoli has no plan B for how they intend to sell its present best players, we may assume that they are only here to earn money and have not taken the club's name seriously in winning trophies, which is where every player's career is built.

Real Madrid requires fresh players to make some positions stronger and more resourceful than they were previously. Real Madrid always signs strategically, and their acquisitions are always of high quality. It is rare that they do not get to sign a player they want to join them. When it comes to signing new players, their fame and financial standing always speak for them.

Napoli won the league cup last year after a tremendous season. But they are not strong enough to compete for the Champions League. I am hearing rumors that osimhen is going to PSG, but I don't know if it is true, but it will be difficult for Napoli to sell Vitor osimhen, who is a good striker that any club would like to have. I would like an English club to negotiate with Napoli's player osimhen. Sigh for any Premier League team that will give him another trophy, is a striker who can score in every situation.is one of the best strikers in the world, but signing him will be difficult because Napoli do not want to sell him at the moment.

[Docnaster]

The next Champions League can be very much to predict but still, Real Madrid is one good chance of winning the title because they are spending lots of money to hire the best players they can hire and Real Madrid is still waiting and hoping to hire Mbappe for the next season which can make this team very dangerous for any other team.
On the other hand, Manchester City is going to continue the good perforate we saw from them in the next season and they will be the most important opponent for Real Madrid.

if the teams get stronger it means they will play a better game
and if they play a better game, the matches will be more beautiful and fun
ultimately this interests me personally

I pay the ticket (virtual on tv) to have fun

That's what we expect and want to see of course. All clubs are improving to make the competition even more interesting.
But I will feel a little sad now, because in the Champions League next season we will be left with many senior players who we usually always see in Champions League matches. Let's call Cristiano Ronaldo who broke many records in the Champions League and even today he still holds that record, yes he left the Champions League first when he joined the Arab club. And as we saw this season a lot of players went to the Arab League and that also ensures we will not see them in the Champions League next season.

I think it'll be too early to predict which club that'll lift the UEFA Champions League competition next season judging by the kind of quality players that most of the European heavyweights are adding to their side this summer.
Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two clubs I think will surely make it to the semi finals and that's because the two clubs has player's that are capable enough to make it happen. Surely there'll be a surprise team of the competition come next season which will also be very interesting to watch

[AndySt]

Napoli won the league cup last year after a tremendous season. But they are not strong enough to compete for the Champions League. I am hearing rumors that osimhen is going to PSG, but I don't know if it is true, but it will be difficult for Napoli to sell Vitor osimhen, who is a good striker that any club would like to have. I would like an English club to negotiate with Napoli's player osimhen. Sigh for any Premier League team that will give him another trophy, is a striker who can score in every situation.is one of the best strikers in the world, but signing him will be difficult because Napoli do not want to sell him at the moment.

In fact, Paris Saint Germain is a dangerous competitor for any potential buyer. After Mbappe's supposed departure, the club can behave much more aggressively in the market. Another question is that I think Viktor Osimhen himself is not ready to leave Napoli yet. However, it all depends on the amount of money. Many people change their minds because of this

[Joca97]

Napoli won the league cup last year after a tremendous season. But they are not strong enough to compete for the Champions League. I am hearing rumors that osimhen is going to PSG, but I don't know if it is true, but it will be difficult for Napoli to sell Vitor osimhen, who is a good striker that any club would like to have. I would like an English club to negotiate with Napoli's player osimhen. Sigh for any Premier League team that will give him another trophy, is a striker who can score in every situation.is one of the best strikers in the world, but signing him will be difficult because Napoli do not want to sell him at the moment.

In fact, Paris Saint Germain is a dangerous competitor for any potential buyer. After Mbappe's supposed departure, the club can behave much more aggressively in the market. Another question is that I think Viktor Osimhen himself is not ready to leave Napoli yet. However, it all depends on the amount of money. Many people change their minds because of this

Well if Mbappe leaves PSG that i think would be it for them. They for me wouldnt have any chance of winning the champions league at all,plus i think they might no even win the french league aswell. Osimhen would be an amazing transfer but still that wouldnt be enough to make their season a success.

[Tony116]

In the next season, Napoli will have less chance compared to the Napoli we saw in the last season mostly because they are going to lose some players and they lose their coach while other teams in the champions league like Manchester City and especially Real Madrid are all trying to hire better players and improve their performance.
From what we saw in Real Madrid they are even trying for Mbappe and this makes Real Madrid much stronger than last season.  

Napoli are still the Serie A title favourites for next season, but I wouldn't be surprised if they recruit more players to bolster their team after selling some of them to other clubs. If Napoli has no plan B for how they intend to sell its present best players, we may assume that they are only here to earn money and have not taken the club's name seriously in winning trophies, which is where every player's career is built.

Real Madrid requires fresh players to make some positions stronger and more resourceful than they were previously. Real Madrid always signs strategically, and their acquisitions are always of high quality. It is rare that they do not get to sign a player they want to join them. When it comes to signing new players, their fame and financial standing always speak for them.

I have always been saying this. If Napoli can keep the players that they had in the last season they will probably be able to do well in the next season. But that is certainly not a guarantee. Because the other clubs in players to make the teams stronger. Napoli is obviously going to be one of the favorites. But if they will be able to win the league title or not is another story.

Real Madrid is the best club in La Liga when it comes to making transfers. There are always taking the best decisions. Of course, there are some bad decisions made. But that happens with almost all the clubs. One thing I like about Real Madrid is that they go for the players who have done well in the World Cup.