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May 24, 2024, 10:23:58 PM
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Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
True. Real Madrid is always the favorite team to win UCL every season. People even call Real Madrid as the king of UCL, no team can achieve the same thing like Real Madrid. But Dortmund, this is a surprising team, no one favor Dortmund to reach the final. In the early of the season, most people expect to see Real Madrid vs Man City in the final match. Unfortunately, Real Madrid must face Man City in the quarter final. So, people assume which team can win in that match, they probably become the winner of UCL this season. Luckily Real Madrid can defeat Man City, now Real Madrid is the only favorite team.

Yes, we must be aware that the miracle sometimes can happen. The result of the final match in Europa league is the real example. We can't deny that it also can happen in UCL final although it should be smaller chance. The capability of Leverkusen and Real Madrid is very different, Real Madrid is like the king of the tournament but Leverkusen becomes a stronger team in this season only. Leverkusen surely doesn't prove anything!!!


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May 25, 2024, 12:01:31 AM
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Guys, for god sake, the only thing in favor of Borussia Dortmund is only one and is..... its only ONE game, and they need to be in his best day and full of good luck and Real Madrid in their worst day ever, to stand a chance.

Asides of that the chances of Borusia Drotmund are sadly very low, i also think they spend most of their luck on the previous phase.

Indeed, Dortmund main factor is about luck and at the same time Real Madrid had some bad luck. But of course, I also believe that Real Madrid will dominate the match of course by continuing to attack but anyway, if for example Real Madrid experiences bad luck it will certainly make Real Madrid get a deadlock even though Real Madrid continues to attack. Therefore, although Real Madrid is certainly a team that will be highly favored but indeed, at least any  results still occur about surprises that might also occur. But if we talk about the results on paper then ofcourse, Real Madrid will certainly win and that is no longer in doubt because Real Madrid also has a better level compared to Dortmund.

It sounds non sense to think if real madrid is gonna face difficulty against dortmund soon. Even if terzic will be doing high price combined with defensive strategy. Real madrid will always find the way to leave from dortmund's strategy. Madrid has a lot of capable players to do this.
Im not seeing it that dortmund as a big obstacle for real madrid to win the competition. this 14 times UCL winner will not be struggling in the upcoming game. Even if dortmund will do marking man on man. It will still useless.

Madrid as a few players that can leave from that situation. Im sure real madrid will able to win the game soon.

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May 25, 2024, 03:32:08 AM
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It sounds non sense to think if real madrid is gonna face difficulty against dortmund soon. Even if terzic will be doing high price combined with defensive strategy. Real madrid will always find the way to leave from dortmund's strategy. Madrid has a lot of capable players to do this.
Im not seeing it that dortmund as a big obstacle for real madrid to win the competition. this 14 times UCL winner will not be struggling in the upcoming game. Even if dortmund will do marking man on man. It will still useless.

Madrid as a few players that can leave from that situation. Im sure real madrid will able to win the game soon.
If Real Madrid from their coach to players think like you, too confidently and carelessly that Dortmund is harmless, they will actually get big trouble in the final match. Dortmund through their adventure in Champions League, shown they are very strong in defense with only 9 conceded goals after 12 matches.

Their stats after 12 played matches are very impressive and shown their defensive strength.

They scored 17 goals, only got 9 conceded goals and if Real Madrid are over confident, play carelessly just in some seconds or minutes, give Dortmund chances to score a goal, Real Madrid might have big difficulty to break Dortmund's defense system and face with very big risk to lose the final.

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May 25, 2024, 04:29:48 AM
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~snip~

It's worth noting that making such analogies is like pointing a finger in the sky, because there don't necessarily have to be consistencies in such things. I believe that Real are unstoppable this season and they will probably win the Champions League, they are very experienced in this tournament. However, I believe that Dortmund will try to do something and will not just leave this pitch, at least they can score a goal for sure
I also believe that if Dortmund only scored goals, they could still do it because in fact opportunities will always be created when there are mistakes and Dortmund can make the enthusiasm of the Real Madrid players even brighter with the goals they score. Of course we know that it will be quite dangerous if Real Madrid starts to show its winning mentality and at that time Dortmund's position will be very pressured.

I don't know for sure, but I'm sure Real Madrid will always be able to make a comeback, especially in a competition they are very good at. So even if Dortmund can score a lot of goals, there will always be a way for Real Madrid to present a tense match with their comeback. That's why they can always become champions when they are in the final round.

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May 25, 2024, 04:40:41 AM
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Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
Indeed, seeing Leverkusen being defeated by Atalanta makes us think a little that the club that is the favorite can also lose in the final against a club that is not so favorite and makes us a little skeptical about the match between Real Madrid and Dortmund because this is a very important match for that clubs They will definitely show the best performance of the best so they won't create gaps that make it easy for opposing clubs to beat each other. Real Madrid is indeed filled with the best players and good mentality and experience, but Dortmund players also rely on smart tactics so we don't You can underestimate Dortmund in this final because Dortmund could beat Real Madrid like Atalanta did against Leverkusen.

There are still 2 weeks left for Dortmund to prepare for this very crucial match. They want to make history again by winning the Champions League title for the second time or letting Real Madrid win the Champions League title for the umpteenth time. Real Madrid has won many Champions League titles but there are still many people who expect it because Real Madrid has quite a large number of fans and they don't get tired of seeing Real Madrid always win in any competition.

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May 25, 2024, 06:07:32 AM
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I also believe that if Dortmund only scored goals, they could still do it because in fact opportunities will always be created when there are mistakes and Dortmund can make the enthusiasm of the Real Madrid players even brighter with the goals they score. Of course we know that it will be quite dangerous if Real Madrid starts to show its winning mentality and at that time Dortmund's position will be very pressured.

I don't know for sure, but I'm sure Real Madrid will always be able to make a comeback, especially in a competition they are very good at. So even if Dortmund can score a lot of goals, there will always be a way for Real Madrid to present a tense match with their comeback. That's why they can always become champions when they are in the final round.
It is certain that Madrid will dominate the game and maybe Dortmund will just wait for Madrid to make a mistake in the game, but of course it will be difficult for a team of Madrid to make a mistake that results in their defeat, with a long time before the final match can certainly give time for Edin Terzic to continue to optimize their squad and most importantly of course Edin Terzic must be able to find the right solution not only to break Madrid goal but more importantly the solution to break every attack made by Madrid in the match later.

In some Madrid matches, we can see how the mentality is possessed by them in making a comeback, as if we can say if the opposing team scores the first goal against Madrid, it will make Madrid angry and as a result of course Madrid will score more goals against the opponent than the number they conceded, but I think the Leverkusen defeat will certainly also provide great motivation for Dortmund to beat Madrid in the final, because final match of course be a game that requires a team to perform optimally and I think Dortmund will probably surprise us like Atlanta did in the Europa League final this season. 



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May 25, 2024, 06:30:34 AM
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Guys, for god sake, the only thing in favor of Borussia Dortmund is only one and is..... its only ONE game, and they need to be in his best day and full of good luck and Real Madrid in their worst day ever, to stand a chance.

Asides of that the chances of Borusia Drotmund are sadly very low, i also think they spend most of their luck on the previous phase.

Technically you’re right and the prolong debate about this is the probability of unforeseen outcomes in some matches when we don’t least expect them, if not, no one will blindly argue that Borussia Dortmund will win the match against Real Madrid in the finals. We have both seen their strength as a team and how they farewell throughout this season, with respect to that; it is clear that Real Madrid will be winners in that match and not Borrusia Dortmund which luck can only shine on to prevail in this final. Let us not deliberate much about this, Real Madrid remains the best team to win and if they don’t, it would just be an unlucky day for them and the luckiest day for Borrussia Dortmund.

I think you underestimate Borussia Dortmund sir, and think they get lucky continuously to get to the final match, that's too fanatical in my opinion. Although Dortmund's domestic league performance is not as good as Real Madrid who won the league this season in La Liga but I don't think we can hit equally through those two factors, we also saw earlier in the Europa League final match Bayer Leverkusen and Atalanta had different performances in their domestic leagues, it might give a clearer speculation about both of them, the match gave a message that every match might produce different expectations from what we expected and predicted before the match started.

Although to be honest I am also aware that Real Madrid is much more experienced than Borussia Dortmund in the champions league and we know how big Real Madrid's popularity is so we can conclude that the chances of winning are greater for Real Madrid, but I suggest not to underestimate Dortmund, they arrived at the final match not by luck alone, there was hard work and smart work they did to finally reach the final match.

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May 25, 2024, 06:54:07 AM
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Real Madrid could experience the same thing this season in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is really considered the favorite because of its current performance, but this is not a guarantee to ensure that Real Madrid can actually win the match. No one knows what will happen in the final, Real Madrid is still very likely to lose even though they have a record of many titles.

Real Madrid is currently one of the best clubs to count on. I will always choose Real Madrid over Dortmund if I were to gamble it based on the antecedents and trajectory in this season and the previous ones. They have always been promising and up and doing as far as effective delivery in performance is concern. Let's not forget that Ancelotti is not experiencing this for the first time and he has also been promising when it comes to controling the game to a win. Ancelotti is interestingly one manager that you can count on even at the last minute of the match when it gets hot.
Ancellotti has an exceptional level of accuracy in winning UCL and im not even doubting his capability in winning the next UCL trophy for him against dortmund. I don't even doubt Real Madrid will win the last game against Dortmund considering dortmund is ez team to beat. It's not comparable to the real madrid. That being said, it makes no difference what approach Terzic planned to face madrid. there will be no problem with this. Real Madrid will own the game against dortmund soon.
I still believe Madrid will dominate ball possession versus Dortmund. Dortmund can aim to imitate Gasperini's method against Madrid. I meant that the city used heavy press man-to-man marking in the first leg but the only problem whether dortmund's players can equal to the real madrid..

It effectively prevented Madrid from scoring a lot in the first leg. We'll see what strategy Ancellotti uses soon. I'm expecting Real Madrid will also try to deploy highpress in conjunction with a man-to-man marking plan.
I meant that Dortmund's players are not as good individually as those of Real Madrid.


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May 25, 2024, 07:21:51 AM
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Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
Real Madrid is nothing like Bayer Leverkusen, maintaining an unbeaten run and end up losing 3 nil in the Europa League final. So I ask, what's all the essence? We have watched how these elite teams keep messing around and not able to withstand the presure on their path. Real Madrid is unbeatable in the UEFA Champions League this season. They will meet Borrusia Dortmund and we know exactly how everything will play out on both ends.
It cannot be denied that Real Madrid's biggest danger is that they are very tied, they work hard and attack and are aggressive. Not only that, they also have extraordinary individual qualities and are a very united team. The players on the bench are no less good than the main players. All teams were overwhelmed by Real Madrid, including Man City, which was said to be a team with a good game and squad.

Real Madrid was very dangerous when they entered the 70th minute, after their opponents were tired of running against Vinicius. Then Ancelotti brought in players like Brahim and Modric with crazy dribbling abilities and qualities. Then suddenly Joselu appeared with a very different style. I don't know how good Borussia Dortmund are or how they will play in the final so I can't judge them. But they managed to reach the final, I think they are also good and should not be underestimated and what is certain is that finals are always complicated because anything can happen, like Bayer Leverkusen's defeat to Atalanta in the Europa League final.

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May 25, 2024, 07:35:27 AM
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Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
True. Real Madrid is always the favorite team to win UCL every season. People even call Real Madrid as the king of UCL, no team can achieve the same thing like Real Madrid. But Dortmund, this is a surprising team, no one favor Dortmund to reach the final. In the early of the season, most people expect to see Real Madrid vs Man City in the final match. Unfortunately, Real Madrid must face Man City in the quarter final. So, people assume which team can win in that match, they probably become the winner of UCL this season. Luckily Real Madrid can defeat Man City, now Real Madrid is the only favorite team.

Yes, we must be aware that the miracle sometimes can happen. The result of the final match in Europa league is the real example. We can't deny that it also can happen in UCL final although it should be smaller chance. The capability of Leverkusen and Real Madrid is very different, Real Madrid is like the king of the tournament but Leverkusen becomes a stronger team in this season only. Leverkusen surely doesn't prove anything!!!

In the Europa League Final betting I was beaten by Atalanta until it was all forfeit because Leverkusen didn't score a single goal. well in the Champions League this time I will again try to bet on Real Madrid victory even many people are favoring it or now people are starting to see that Dortmund can implement the same scheme as Atalanta, this is a challenge for me to continue betting. Again trying to believe in Real Madrid chances, even though after Atalanta win there was a lot of interesting speculation and Dortmund percentage increased. I still believe that Real Madrid has something that no other team has, there is quite a strong difference, it cannot be denied that Dortmund is preparing for some surprises in this final.

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May 25, 2024, 08:49:55 AM
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Guys, for god sake, the only thing in favor of Borussia Dortmund is only one and is..... its only ONE game, and they need to be in his best day and full of good luck and Real Madrid in their worst day ever, to stand a chance.

Asides of that the chances of Borusia Drotmund are sadly very low, i also think they spend most of their luck on the previous phase.

Indeed, Dortmund main factor is about luck and at the same time Real Madrid had some bad luck. But of course, I also believe that Real Madrid will dominate the match of course by continuing to attack but anyway, if for example Real Madrid experiences bad luck it will certainly make Real Madrid get a deadlock even though Real Madrid continues to attack. Therefore, although Real Madrid is certainly a team that will be highly favored but indeed, at least any  results still occur about surprises that might also occur. But if we talk about the results on paper then ofcourse, Real Madrid will certainly win and that is no longer in doubt because Real Madrid also has a better level compared to Dortmund.

It sounds non sense to think if real madrid is gonna face difficulty against dortmund soon. Even if terzic will be doing high price combined with defensive strategy. Real madrid will always find the way to leave from dortmund's strategy. Madrid has a lot of capable players to do this.
Im not seeing it that dortmund as a big obstacle for real madrid to win the competition. this 14 times UCL winner will not be struggling in the upcoming game. Even if dortmund will do marking man on man. It will still useless.

Madrid as a few players that can leave from that situation. Im sure real madrid will able to win the game soon.
I think Dortmund wants to have good results in this match. Dortmund must first be highly focused. They may not have many chances. One important thing is that Dortmund cannot let Real Madrid have many opportunities. Dortmund must contain Real Madrid's explosive players. Dortmund must restrain Toni Kroos, Real Madrid's strongest passer. The midfield needs to pay close attention to Toni Kroos. Get closer to prevent him from making any precise passes.

Dortmund should apply their strategy when playing against PSG. They can also defend well if they meet Real Madrid. This is their strategy, not luck as you think. They will continue to use that strategy to face strong teams like Real Madrid.

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May 25, 2024, 09:07:30 AM
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Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
True. Real Madrid is always the favorite team to win UCL every season. People even call Real Madrid as the king of UCL, no team can achieve the same thing like Real Madrid. But Dortmund, this is a surprising team, no one favor Dortmund to reach the final. In the early of the season, most people expect to see Real Madrid vs Man City in the final match. Unfortunately, Real Madrid must face Man City in the quarter final. So, people assume which team can win in that match, they probably become the winner of UCL this season. Luckily Real Madrid can defeat Man City, now Real Madrid is the only favorite team.

Yes, we must be aware that the miracle sometimes can happen. The result of the final match in Europa league is the real example. We can't deny that it also can happen in UCL final although it should be smaller chance. The capability of Leverkusen and Real Madrid is very different, Real Madrid is like the king of the tournament but Leverkusen becomes a stronger team in this season only. Leverkusen surely doesn't prove anything!!!

In the Europa League Final betting I was beaten by Atalanta until it was all forfeit because Leverkusen didn't score a single goal. well in the Champions League this time I will again try to bet on Real Madrid victory even many people are favoring it or now people are starting to see that Dortmund can implement the same scheme as Atalanta, this is a challenge for me to continue betting. Again trying to believe in Real Madrid chances, even though after Atalanta win there was a lot of interesting speculation and Dortmund percentage increased. I still believe that Real Madrid has something that no other team has, there is quite a strong difference, it cannot be denied that Dortmund is preparing for some surprises in this final.

Since the final match will be held, the possibility of any team to perform aggressively at any time is very high. As Burussia Dortmund entered the finals having beaten the strongest teams to reach the final match, Real Madrid performed even stronger. If we consider between these two teams then definitely Real Madrid team is ahead in any aspect. So definitely bet on Real Madrid but bet at your own risk. I also bet on Real Madrid team because they have performed well with every team this season. 
The biggest difference is that in the past few Burussia Dortmund teams have played against Real Madrid teams, Real Madrid have won most of their matches. So will try hard enough to win the title in this final match.

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May 25, 2024, 09:22:58 AM
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I think you underestimate Borussia Dortmund sir, and think they get lucky continuously to get to the final match, that's too fanatical in my opinion. Although Dortmund's domestic league performance is not as good as Real Madrid who won the league this season in La Liga but I don't think we can hit equally through those two factors, we also saw earlier in the Europa League final match Bayer Leverkusen and Atalanta had different performances in their domestic leagues, it might give a clearer speculation about both of them, the match gave a message that every match might produce different expectations from what we expected and predicted before the match started.

Although to be honest I am also aware that Real Madrid is much more experienced than Borussia Dortmund in the champions league and we know how big Real Madrid's popularity is so we can conclude that the chances of winning are greater for Real Madrid, but I suggest not to underestimate Dortmund, they arrived at the final match not by luck alone, there was hard work and smart work they did to finally reach the final match.
I don't think good ideas for Real Madrid underestimate with Dortmund achievement success qualifying until UEFA Champion League final round indeed their performance not quit well in domestic league by finishing on 5th standings position got helped after Bundesliga competition getting extra quota. Currently Dortmund showed us their consistency performance in Champion League since phase group without unbeaten and success kicking out the most experience team in Champion League AC Milan.

In knock out round, Dortmund eliminated PSV as unbeaten team in their domestic league competition then has Atletico Madrid and PSG are both favorable teams although Dortmund keep underestimate reach until final round. Real Madrid must be careful with how success Dortmund qualified to final round and don't compare with domestic league performance because every team and players has more motivate when playing at higher level competition exactly on UEFA Champion League final match.

Its the way for Real Madrid get their 15th Champion League trophies will be easily or Dortmund will make us shock by beating Madrid in the final match.

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May 25, 2024, 09:29:32 AM
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I think you underestimate Borussia Dortmund sir, and think they get lucky continuously to get to the final match, that's too fanatical in my opinion. Although Dortmund's domestic league performance is not as good as Real Madrid who won the league this season in La Liga but I don't think we can hit equally through those two factors, we also saw earlier in the Europa League final match Bayer Leverkusen and Atalanta had different performances in their domestic leagues, it might give a clearer speculation about both of them, the match gave a message that every match might produce different expectations from what we expected and predicted before the match started.

Although to be honest I am also aware that Real Madrid is much more experienced than Borussia Dortmund in the champions league and we know how big Real Madrid's popularity is so we can conclude that the chances of winning are greater for Real Madrid, but I suggest not to underestimate Dortmund, they arrived at the final match not by luck alone, there was hard work and smart work they did to finally reach the final match.
I don't think good ideas for Real Madrid underestimate with Dortmund achievement success qualifying until UEFA Champion League final round indeed their performance not quit well in domestic league by finishing on 5th standings position got helped after Bundesliga competition getting extra quota. Currently Dortmund showed us their consistency performance in Champion League since phase group without unbeaten and success kicking out the most experience team in Champion League AC Milan.

In knock out round, Dortmund eliminated PSV as unbeaten team in their domestic league competition then has Atletico Madrid and PSG are both favorable teams although Dortmund keep underestimate reach until final round. Real Madrid must be careful with how success Dortmund qualified to final round and don't compare with domestic league performance because every team and players has more motivate when playing at higher level competition exactly on UEFA Champion League final match.

Its the way for Real Madrid get their 15th Champion League trophies will be easily or Dortmund will make us shock by beating Madrid in the final match.

it's not a question of performance, as we well know when the matches are finals it doesn't matter how much progress has been made previously it only matters how hungry you are on the pitch and how the players are on that evening I think they are two highly motivated teams but I also believe that Real Madrid have an edge at the champions level, it's in their DNA, but it must be said that Dortmund also have their reasons for winning the cup, however my heart is with them and mine too bet slip

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Surely Borussia Dortmund struggled much more than Real Madrid to qualify for this Champions League final, I don't think anyone would have expected Borussia Dortmund to fight so hard and get access to the final, for me it was a real surprise, I hope the fairytale continues, because it is true that Real Madrid is strong and has many Champions Leagues, but it is also true that it is getting tired of seeing them win always and only them.  Grin

Real Madrid is simply the best team for the Champions League and that's why they are the absolute favorites for the title every year. A lot of unexpected things would have to happen for Dortmund to see them as winners, but nobody expected Leverkusen to lose in the EL either and Atalanta still managed it, so why shouldn't Dortmund also not manage it?
The team that managed to beat Real Madrid in the final in this competition was Liverpool in the 1980-1981 season and that was before this competition changed its name to the Champions League after that Real Madrid had never lost in the final, so this seems like a scary statistic for their opponents in the final, but because previously there was something very surprising so we can expect that to happen, and it is possible that without unexpected things Dortmund will be able to overcome Real Madrid even with a narrow score of 1-0, but it is clear that Real Madrid is the favorite and many bettors chose it, maybe even many chose over because they believe that Real Madrid will win with a landslide score, as many people predicted, where Bayer will win by a landslide against Atalanta but it's the opposite, but I'm not sure Dortmund will win with a landslide score if they manage to win as I predicted, they won with a narrow score.

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May 25, 2024, 09:45:14 AM
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Dortmund should apply their strategy when playing against PSG. They can also defend well if they meet Real Madrid. This is their strategy, not luck as you think. They will continue to use that strategy to face strong teams like Real Madrid.
Luck doesn’t get you to the UCL finals! If it were to be luck, then we would have found the likes of Sporting CP or Celtic in the finals. They are a good side when playing locally but, aren’t that good enough just yet to make these stages in the UCL. Dortmund weren’t lucky, they dared to take the bulls by the horns, went for it and didn’t hold back and they got it. I think their biggest challenge was Arsenal, once they had them off the way, PSG wasn’t much of a threat like we assumed they would be.

Now, they face a real giant in the UCL, a team that knows how to play and pride themselves in the UCL. Dortmund have got to show themselves to be more than exceptional to come close to equal Real Madrid as I think, experience would be where they loose it. I don’t see Real Madrid not winning this, there are players to the team who wants more and more of these medals and trophy. On like in the Laliga, Real Madrid gives some real show in the UCL but, I would be open to some surprises if Dortmund can.

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Real Madrid is nothing like Bayer Leverkusen, maintaining an unbeaten run and end up losing 3 nil in the Europa League final. So I ask, what's all the essence? We have watched how these elite teams keep messing around and not able to withstand the presure on their path. Real Madrid is unbeatable in the UEFA Champions League this season. They will meet Borrusia Dortmund and we know exactly how everything will play out on both ends.
Comparing Leverkusen and Madrid isn't matching well enough because these two teams played in two different leagues with different levels of experience and were able to achieve different kind of results on two different levels aswell so I think they aren't equals by virtue of their standards of measurement even if they both got to the finals of the league where they both played but then it was a different kind of pressure.

By next season we will be seeing both teams in the champions league I think we will have a better a clearer bases for judgement and comparison because they are both going to be in the champions league and at same time in their domestic leagues aswell. Not been able to win the finals of the Europa by Leverkusen this season was actually embarrassing but then that's the game of football, untill it's over ,it's not yet over as you will still get to be surprised even at the last minute of a game, nevertheless Leverkusen did a very good job this season of which we wouldn't see them any less because of that one game which is something that could happen to anyone.

I know with Real Madrid it's absolutely different and such has got a very slim chance of happening as they have a record of not loosing a single champions league finals since they have Made it to the finals over ten times so I doubt if it will be different with this but then again it's football and anything can happen even with the very slim chances around it, such shouldn't be neglected as there are possibilities in such.

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May 25, 2024, 11:06:07 AM
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Real Madrid is nothing like Bayer Leverkusen, maintaining an unbeaten run and end up losing 3 nil in the Europa League final. So I ask, what's all the essence? We have watched how these elite teams keep messing around and not able to withstand the presure on their path. Real Madrid is unbeatable in the UEFA Champions League this season. They will meet Borrusia Dortmund and we know exactly how everything will play out on both ends.
Comparing Leverkusen and Madrid isn't matching well enough because these two teams played in two different leagues with different levels of experience and were able to achieve different kind of results on two different levels aswell so I think they aren't equals by virtue of their standards of measurement even if they both got to the finals of the league where they both played but then it was a different kind of pressure.

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let's stop talking about Leverkusen and Real Madrid, which are too far apart.
as you said, it is very rare for Madrid to lose in the final round and I even thought that if Madrid succeeded in reaching the final round, it would be like a guarantee for Madrid to get the UCL title this season.
I am confident in saying this because Madrid playing style is very clear that all Madrid players have greater self confidence and can always attack the opponent's defense even though they are also attacked by the opponent but in fact they can progress to the final round.
I have often said this but I might have to say it again if we can compare the quality of Dortmund performance with Bayern Munich which both have almost the same performance but Bayern Munich has a stronger attack line.
meanwhile, Dortmund only has a strong defense but does not have a strong attack line, which means that Madrid will not worry too much about its attack line and Ancelotti only needs a little strategy to strengthen the attack line.

TBH, I actually wanted Ancelotti to use the same formation as when facing Bayern Munich at that time because for me this formation was very appropriate to make it difficult for Dortmund to score.
Madrid defense just needed focus not to give Füllkrug, Sancho and Julian Brandt a chance.
these three Dortmund players must really be paid attention to because these players have a good talent for stealing opportunities from opponents and I hope Ancelotti understands which players should be prioritized to block.

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May 25, 2024, 11:12:41 AM
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In the Europa League Final betting I was beaten by Atalanta until it was all forfeit because Leverkusen didn't score a single goal. well in the Champions League this time I will again try to bet on Real Madrid victory even many people are favoring it or now people are starting to see that Dortmund can implement the same scheme as Atalanta, this is a challenge for me to continue betting. Again trying to believe in Real Madrid chances, even though after Atalanta win there was a lot of interesting speculation and Dortmund percentage increased. I still believe that Real Madrid has something that no other team has, there is quite a strong difference, it cannot be denied that Dortmund is preparing for some surprises in this final.

Betting on Real Madrid is of course something that many football fans will do, because there is no doubt about Real Madrid's performance with their star players as well as their young players who both have good performance, also because Ancelotti has succeeded in nurturing Real Madrid into a team. good and strong. Remembering that Real Madrid is a strong team, of course they won't let Dortmund beat them. Also, Real Madrid is known as the king of Champions and they rarely lose when they are in the final.

Of course, Dortmund will not be able to beat Real Madrid easily, even though they do their best, of course Real Madrid still has its own characteristics which other teams don't have. Of course, I think Dortmund will have difficulty facing Real Madrid, whose performance is beyond doubt.

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May 25, 2024, 01:14:37 PM
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I think you underestimate Borussia Dortmund sir, and think they get lucky continuously to get to the final match, that's too fanatical in my opinion. Although Dortmund's domestic league performance is not as good as Real Madrid who won the league this season in La Liga but I don't think we can hit equally through those two factors, we also saw earlier in the Europa League final match Bayer Leverkusen and Atalanta had different performances in their domestic leagues, it might give a clearer speculation about both of them, the match gave a message that every match might produce different expectations from what we expected and predicted before the match started.

Although to be honest I am also aware that Real Madrid is much more experienced than Borussia Dortmund in the champions league and we know how big Real Madrid's popularity is so we can conclude that the chances of winning are greater for Real Madrid, but I suggest not to underestimate Dortmund, they arrived at the final match not by luck alone, there was hard work and smart work they did to finally reach the final match.
I don't think good ideas for Real Madrid underestimate with Dortmund achievement success qualifying until UEFA Champion League final round indeed their performance not quit well in domestic league by finishing on 5th standings position got helped after Bundesliga competition getting extra quota. Currently Dortmund showed us their consistency performance in Champion League since phase group without unbeaten and success kicking out the most experience team in Champion League AC Milan.

In knock out round, Dortmund eliminated PSV as unbeaten team in their domestic league competition then has Atletico Madrid and PSG are both favorable teams although Dortmund keep underestimate reach until final round. Real Madrid must be careful with how success Dortmund qualified to final round and don't compare with domestic league performance because every team and players has more motivate when playing at higher level competition exactly on UEFA Champion League final match.

Its the way for Real Madrid get their 15th Champion League trophies will be easily or Dortmund will make us shock by beating Madrid in the final match.
With the achievements that have been achieved by Dortmund in this season by successfully winning the group in the hell group and defeating opponents who are comparable even arguably stronger than them, it is actually a mistake if memamgn Madrid makes this as if it were easy and underestimates Dortmund for now with the achievements that Dortmund is showing now.

Indeed, we cannot close the fact that until now Madrid does have a large probability in today's match because indeed for now Madrid is still above average for a match so they must be favorites but probabilities like this are only as a complement and in 90 minutes of actual matches the chances of both clubs can still win depending on how they show their abilities on the field and the strategies used at the end.

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