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Author Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season  (Read 133551 times)
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December 05, 2023, 07:15:50 AM
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Bayern have no problems in the Bundesliga and, on the contrary, they lack strong opponents to train with, so I expect Bayern to play at full strength and therefore most likely to beat United. Moreover, the game could end with a score of 3-5 or something like that (if United is able to resist), but I think that Bayern will win. The most interesting thing is who will win in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray pair. Both teams played solid football and it's a pity that someone had to be the loser.
I've often said this actually, that they are already comfortable when passing the 4th match, they just need to relax and wait for their next opponent in the Champions League. But will they be able to accept being defeated by Manchester United? in my opinion not, because prestige is also at stake there. They also looked not very ambitious in the previous match and could only play a draw and I think that's what they will do, if they don't win then at least they don't lose, that's the most realistic in my opinion.

Last year, Bayern qualified after the 4th round, but this did not stop them from beating Barcelona away with a score of 3-0, and then Inter at home with a score of 2-0. Bayern is not a team that will give points to anyone even if the game has no tournament significance. In addition, Müller said after the game with Copenhagen that he was angry that they could not win. It is logical to assume that now some of this anger and dissatisfaction will go on United  Grin

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December 05, 2023, 07:30:52 AM
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If Bayern Munich won against Copenhagen home the last time it would have been quite in favour of Galatasaray to qualify for last 16 stage. Because in that case even one point might have been enough for Galatasaray in their last group match. However Bayern Munich look like they aren't giving their 100% anymore after securing the first place.

Otherwise I would have never expected Bayern Munich to lose even one point against Copenhagen. Actually I think the referee made a mistake in the last minutes as well by not giving that penalty due to handball. That could have brought the winning goal to them.

Galatasaray have no other choice except defeating Copenhagen now. Otherwise they aren't going to be able to continue in the Champions League.

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December 05, 2023, 08:39:33 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
We all know the chance to beat Bayern Munich seems rather small, but it doesn't mean impossible. Although Man United performance also looks unconvincingly, they still have the chance to beat Bayern Munich. We predict that Bayern Munich will use their second tier players for the last match, it can prevent the injury problem for the main players. If this happens, Man United will have the chance to beat Bayern Munich. However, beating Bayern Munich isn't enough to qualify for the next round. They also should expect the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray will result in a draw. Honestly, only the miracle can lead the match to end with a draw. But, again I think it is not something impossible.

Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.
If Bayern Munich play with their main attackers, Man United defenders may be difficult to stop them. But if Bayern Munich plays with the second tier attackers, Man United defenders can handle them. I don't think the match will end up with a draw if Man United struggle all out to score goals. There is no reason for Man United to play defensively in the final match because a win is a must for them.



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December 05, 2023, 09:26:15 AM
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Harry Kane can still be the Champions League winner by right as long as he signs for a more successful team. Tottenham are struggling to even join the Champions League group stage now. We all must have watched how superb Kane was about scoring goals anyway in the EPL. Tottenham just don't deserve to have one of the best strikers in the world while they don't have a proper success in any tournament. I will be expecting Kane to be signed this summer by getting the offer needed for his fee.

Bayern Munich are getting closer to finishing this deal by improving their offer. This is an important deal for them to be more competitive for the Champions League title as well. We can see those times with Lewandowski are back thanks to Kane.
It's a shame next season's Champions League without Harry Kane, due Tottenham Hotspur finished on 5th standings placed in Primer League they have participants in Europe League. Bayern Munich have announced many time interested to sign Kane and become his chance for playing in Champion League next season and actually has bigger chance for winning many tittle than stay with Spur.

Harry Kane contract over with Tottenham Hotspur in the summer of 2024 and if difficult sign him due higher transfer fees offer from Spurs still has second chance for Bayern Munich waiting next season for Harry Kane as free agent. Tottenham Hotspur won't loss Kane as free agent I think and they will try to get excited bid offer from Bayern or possibility with other team like Manchester United who interested for signing Kane.
Tottenham Hotspur has realized how important Harry Kane is to them because in as much as Tottenham Hotspur has been managing to perform and wining some matches but ever since Harry Kane left Tottenham Hotspur the club has not been the same because the kind of role he plays to assist Son Heung by creating scoring opportunities for him is no longer there perhaps that's the reason why they want to sign him back.

However Manchester United would have also go for Harry Kane but with the amount and plus his age was actually what made them to change there mind on signing Harry Kane because he is close to retirement so Manchester United made a right decision because with that money they can get themselves a two quality youngsters that can help improve there performance.

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December 05, 2023, 09:43:02 AM
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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
Manchester United will play their last game in the group and Bayern Munich is not an easy team to beat. Manchester United will win this match and Copenhagen will wait for the Galatasaray match to end in a draw. I guess any other possibility doesn't help them get out of the group. If either Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins the match, Manchester will at best go to the UEL.
Only if manchester united will able to win against bayern. Why are you thinking manchester united can win against bayern? I would rather than take as the most possible result from the upcoming game. Look at how shitty united when it was playing against UCL clubs. The performance from bayern makes me feel confident to take double chance. Im sure it will be draw. Even though united may be leading the game, but bayern will able to equalize it.

Onana will be facing some scary striker like harry kane. We do know that bayern is always playing fully offensive against its opponent. Even if united win theg ame but one of club in other match is doing same like united.
United will go to the UEL. UEL was a better place for united but it reminds me with the result of last season when united was also failed to get into final of europa league.
Im very pessimistic to the MU.

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December 05, 2023, 10:48:16 AM
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I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
Yes, almost everyone is sure that Bayern Munich will win the match against Manchester United, which currently has many bad problems such as a weak coach, goalkeeper and defender.
Without a doubt, Munich will achieve results that ensure that this club will qualify for the next round and in terms of performance, Bayern Munich can at least get 2 scores in the upcoming match and maybe Manchester United 0.
Its best you direct the poor performance of Manchester United to the players and not the coach. The team has been worst this season, there are still good players in the team but perhaps they cannot cooperate or work together. January is the best time for Manchester United to have a restoration of their lost glory. ETK should sell all those players that are not contributing much to the team and buy young bloods that are ready to play and win some trophy. I don't want to mention names, but currently like 5 players should go.

I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
Even though there will be a surprise draw, it will not change Munich's position, which is clear that they will qualify and as a bettor it is better to choose the option of betting on the total score.
There can never be a surprise draw. It is certain that Bayern Munich is going to win the match with a multigoal of 3 and above. Yes, Manchester United may score but they cannot win. Currently the United team is not united at all there is some misunderstanding and that is what is leading to their downfall. I read on skysports where Erik Ten Hag claimed that there was not a good culture among staff and players before he join Man United.


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December 05, 2023, 12:08:26 PM
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Betting on Manchester United to win is purely a lost of bet because I'm aware about the poor form of the English club and they don't stand any solid chance to win Bayern Munich this season either home or away. Erik Ten Hag should leave things the way they are and focused on the next step EPL game after UEFA Champions League. That is never a game to count winning for the Red Devils because they're so not capable of winning Bayern Munich. They easily lost to Copenhagen and Galatasaray and talk of winning or even drawing points with Bayern Munich seems impossible in the current race this season.
Of course it will be a waste of money betting on Manchester United to win Bayern Munich because is crystal clear that Manchester United performance has gone from bad to worst because if they were unable to win those smaller clubs they meet is it Bayern Munich who has the upper chances of wining the champions League at the same time leading there group table they can win?.

I believe that Manchester United is already aware that they cannot win Bayern Munich because even there last meeting Bayern Munich won them so there is every chances that they will still win Manchester United again.

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December 05, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
This is why manchester united has been targeting maignan (acmilan). The management was not feeling good with onana's performance. He was making too many blunders since he was coming to the manchester united. I can't even count how many times he was making it.
Manchester united has so many loopholes. I meant if we must also be aware that how manchester united was buying some expensive players but they were totally useless. They have no club what they shall be doing in the club.
Ten hag is being so wasteful. Ten hag needs to find a solution for this. Manchester united needs to buy some players to fill the position on the goal keeper and defenders.

MU needs a better striker as well as hojlund was utterly scam transfer. He performs well in UCL but mU will out from UCL too. He has 0 goals from 10 matches in EPl. The worst striker.

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December 05, 2023, 01:29:42 PM
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Yes, almost everyone is sure that Bayern Munich will win the match against Manchester United, which currently has many bad problems such as a weak coach, goalkeeper and defender.
Without a doubt, Munich will achieve results that ensure that this club will qualify for the next round and in terms of performance, Bayern Munich can at least get 2 scores in the upcoming match and maybe Manchester United 0.
Even though there will be a surprise draw, it will not change Munich's position, which is clear that they will qualify and as a bettor it is better to choose the option of betting on the total score.
Betting on Manchester United to win is purely a lost of bet because I'm aware about the poor form of the English club and they don't stand any solid chance to win Bayern Munich this season either home or away. Erik Ten Hag should leave things the way they are and focused on the next step EPL game after UEFA Champions League. That is never a game to count winning for the Red Devils because they're so not capable of winning Bayern Munich. They easily lost to Copenhagen and Galatasaray and talk of winning or even drawing points with Bayern Munich seems impossible in the current race this season.

A change can happen in a split second just same way they did against Liverpool last season. Do you know how many people won them various bets during tje last fixture in the Champions League? Copenhagen drew against Bayern Munich and some people won this exact game. Same can happen to Manchester United, it's football. Besides Bayern Munich already qualified for the Champions League knockouts.

Anyways, they're in a bad form, let's see how they react to the game against Chelsea. Blue's have anyways accumulated good points against the top four clubs this season. They could do same against Manchester United tommorow.

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December 05, 2023, 01:30:25 PM
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MU needs a better striker as well as hojlund was utterly scam transfer. He performs well in UCL but mU will out from UCL too. He has 0 goals from 10 matches in EPl. The worst striker.
I don't think they will sign anyone, but I hope it won't be a similar case to Martial, who has been at United for 7 years! 65mln EUR and no progress, what a really shit. I think the real despair was the loan of Weghorst for half a year, who didn't even have a place in 11 the middle team of table in Bundesliga. 60mln for Fred was in the mud for me, Casemiro and varane, both 110mln think so is not perfect also but 100mln for Antony is real crime.
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December 05, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.

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December 05, 2023, 02:16:08 PM
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MU needs a better striker as well as hojlund was utterly scam transfer. He performs well in UCL but mU will out from UCL too. He has 0 goals from 10 matches in EPl. The worst striker.
I don't think they will sign anyone, but I hope it won't be a similar case to Martial, who has been at United for 7 years! 65mln EUR and no progress, what a really shit. I think the real despair was the loan of Weghorst for half a year, who didn't even have a place in 11 the middle team of table in Bundesliga. 60mln for Fred was in the mud for me, Casemiro and varane, both 110mln think so is not perfect also but 100mln for Antony is real crime.

You are bringing up Martial, but he scored 56 goals in 175 appearances, that is why I think he is not the worst transfer they ever made. But you are right that they made several transfers which were absolute garbage with respect to the return on investment and sometimes they didn't get a real chance to play at all. Mason Mount or Sancho also having infinite trouble with ten Hag.

I think they won't be holding back when there is a possibility to sign a good player, but what will it be good for? They need someone who understands how to bring in new players and make the team stronger. If they don't have someone who understands that, new players are not the solution to a different problem.

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December 05, 2023, 02:26:55 PM
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I believe that Manchester United is already aware that they cannot win Bayern Munich because even there last meeting Bayern Munich won them so there is every chances that they will still win Manchester United again.
Even though Munich will still qualify if they are defeated by Manchester United, they will not underestimate Manchester United and will try their best to win in their last meeting. Manchester United may have a chance to qualify for the next round if they manage to win against Munich later and Galatasary drew with Copenhagen, although it requires luck but Manchester united will have to show all their strength later against Munchen.

Whatever the result, Manchester United must not give up because there is still hope for them to qualify, even though it seems a bit difficult, it still all comes back to luck, I am not a supporter of Manchester United but I am just saying that they have a chance to qualify so they have to play with all their strength to win, the match looks like it will be interesting in group A.

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December 05, 2023, 02:38:37 PM
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Manchester United will play their last game in the group and Bayern Munich is not an easy team to beat. Manchester United will win this match and Copenhagen will wait for the Galatasaray match to end in a draw. I guess any other possibility doesn't help them get out of the group. If either Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins the match, Manchester will at best go to the UEL.
Manchester United will face more difficult conditions in the final match in Group A of the Champions League, because Manchester United's potential to qualify for the next round is very slim, as is Manchester United's chance of getting to the Europa League. Because if Manchester United draws or loses with Bayern Munich and Galatasaray or Copenhagen can win their last match in Group A, Manchester United will only have to return to the Premier League without qualifying for the other competitions this season.

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December 05, 2023, 02:39:07 PM
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There are only two teams that have achieved perfect points in the last 5 matches and that is Real Madrid and Manchester City. These two teams are indeed the ideal finals in each season, but we also don't know the possibility of the two of them meeting first, whether in the quarterfinals or semifinals. These two teams have collected 15 points and only one match remains to close the group stage with 18 points. I can't wait to see these two teams fighting together to be in the higher rounds in the future and also with the new squad depth this season it is clear that the match will be quite even.

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December 05, 2023, 02:40:57 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
One of the factors that propells a downfall of a club is depending on one players because what you actually said is true because Manchester United coach has been putting Rashford as there number one strikers and whenever he fails to perform the whole team finds it difficult to win a match, perhaps this is one of the reasons I love Manchester City because all the players performance are almost equal to the extend that on any absence of any players the team can easily cover up so that's one of the peculiar thing Manchester City have over others.

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December 05, 2023, 02:47:52 PM
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There are only two teams that have achieved perfect points in the last 5 matches and that is Real Madrid and Manchester City. These two teams are indeed the ideal finals in each season, but we also don't know the possibility of the two of them meeting first, whether in the quarterfinals or semifinals. These two teams have collected 15 points and only one match remains to close the group stage with 18 points. I can't wait to see these two teams fighting together to be in the higher rounds in the future and also with the new squad depth this season it is clear that the match will be quite even.
In Champion League group stage, Manchester City and Real Madrid are perfect teams have won 5 of 5 matches and seems both teams will win one match left, Real Madrid will face Union Berlin on away match but its not problem for completed the winning trend and Manchester City will face bottom team standings Crvena zvezda without problem for winning match result. Actually have Bayern Munich still with unbeaten record but last match failed for defeating Copenhagen and loss the winning perfect on group stage round.

Usually teams who finish on first standings position each group will face teams who finish on second standings but they are not come from in the same league or country. Likely, Manchester City and Real Madrid will not face each other on 16 round but has potential in quarter final or semifinal but seems Manchester City vs Real Madrid is ideal final of Champion League for season 2023/24.

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December 05, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.

No matter how much we talk about Manchester United, nothing will change; the only thing that can make a difference is to remove the coach. Erik ten Hag is not a good coach for Manchester United; he has ruined the team's performance, which was excellent prior to his arrival. I first learned that the man would be Manchester United's problem during Ronaldo's season there. He claimed that because he is getting older and cannot play as well as he once did, the coach is primarily to blame for Ronaldo's departure from the team, and now he is set to ruin the team.

Erik Teg Hang is the reason why Sancho isn't allowed to play for Manchester United. The club paid a hefty sum of money for Sancho, but the coach doesn't want the player in the team, so he went and bought older players instead of young ones. I believe Ronaldo is correct when he says that Garnacho must leave Manchester United in order to develop into a better player than him. The coach will never allow the team to perform well, and it appears that the coach and Onanna are working together on something.

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December 05, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
Manchester United will play their last game in the group and Bayern Munich is not an easy team to beat. Manchester United will win this match and Copenhagen will wait for the Galatasaray match to end in a draw. I guess any other possibility doesn't help them get out of the group. If either Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins the match, Manchester will at best go to the UEL.
Bayern Munich failed to beat Copenhagen at home just because they had already qualified for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I bet you Bayern Munich will want to beat Manchester United at Old Trafford even if they had qualified for the next round of the Champions League.

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December 05, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
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Only if manchester united will able to win against bayern. Why are you thinking manchester united can win against bayern? I would rather than take as the most possible result from the upcoming game. Look at how shitty united when it was playing against UCL clubs. The performance from bayern makes me feel confident to take double chance. Im sure it will be draw. Even though united may be leading the game, but bayern will able to equalize it.

Onana will be facing some scary striker like harry kane. We do know that bayern is always playing fully offensive against its opponent. Even if united win theg ame but one of club in other match is doing same like united.
United will go to the UEL. UEL was a better place for united but it reminds me with the result of last season when united was also failed to get into final of europa league.
Im very pessimistic to the MU.


 United's advancement in the UCL is on a lot of probable cases and the odds are very much low. It's either they advance, or relegate to the UEL, or get disqualified from the contest. Which ever one that happens will be as a result of their performance in the tournament. Currently they're not able to be a threat, assuming they advance, they may not be able to battle it through narrowly as they did in the group stages, fierce competitions will arise and they may still eventually get disqualified at the round of 16 stage.

 If relegated to the UEL, I still don't have much confidence in them to scale through to grab the trophy because teams in that section too are going to be competitive. Currently they do not have the ability to withstand weighty challenge. Their performance currently isn't encouraging and doesn't speak well for them. The full team has a lot of work to do. No one expects them to do better currently as they've not been able to prove their worthiness too.

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