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December 05, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

I think, this group is among the strongest teams in this champions league table because before Bayern Munich got to that position to qualified for the round 16 made them to go through a lot of challenges but they overcame at the end. Bayern Munich is well prepared for this season to take a good lead through out this season, and they will show some new strategies that will give them the opportunity to achieve victory from Manchester united. If you look at what Manchester united are displaying in premier league competition and other competitions,you will know that they don't have good keeper that can help them not to allow Bayern Munich strikers not to score goals in this match.
Manchester United will play their last game in the group and Bayern Munich is not an easy team to beat. Manchester United will win this match and Copenhagen will wait for the Galatasaray match to end in a draw. I guess any other possibility doesn't help them get out of the group. If either Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins the match, Manchester will at best go to the UEL.
Bayern Munich failed to beat Copenhagen at home just because they had already qualified for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I bet you Bayern Munich will want to beat Manchester United at Old Trafford even if they had qualified for the next round of the Champions League.

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December 05, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
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Only if manchester united will able to win against bayern. Why are you thinking manchester united can win against bayern? I would rather than take as the most possible result from the upcoming game. Look at how shitty united when it was playing against UCL clubs. The performance from bayern makes me feel confident to take double chance. Im sure it will be draw. Even though united may be leading the game, but bayern will able to equalize it.

Onana will be facing some scary striker like harry kane. We do know that bayern is always playing fully offensive against its opponent. Even if united win theg ame but one of club in other match is doing same like united.
United will go to the UEL. UEL was a better place for united but it reminds me with the result of last season when united was also failed to get into final of europa league.
Im very pessimistic to the MU.


 United's advancement in the UCL is on a lot of probable cases and the odds are very much low. It's either they advance, or relegate to the UEL, or get disqualified from the contest. Which ever one that happens will be as a result of their performance in the tournament. Currently they're not able to be a threat, assuming they advance, they may not be able to battle it through narrowly as they did in the group stages, fierce competitions will arise and they may still eventually get disqualified at the round of 16 stage.

 If relegated to the UEL, I still don't have much confidence in them to scale through to grab the trophy because teams in that section too are going to be competitive. Currently they do not have the ability to withstand weighty challenge. Their performance currently isn't encouraging and doesn't speak well for them. The full team has a lot of work to do. No one expects them to do better currently as they've not been able to prove their worthiness too.
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December 05, 2023, 04:28:57 PM
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I believe that Manchester United is already aware that they cannot win Bayern Munich because even there last meeting Bayern Munich won them so there is every chances that they will still win Manchester United again.
Even though Munich will still qualify if they are defeated by Manchester United, they will not underestimate Manchester United and will try their best to win in their last meeting. Manchester United may have a chance to qualify for the next round if they manage to win against Munich later and Galatasary drew with Copenhagen, although it requires luck but Manchester united will have to show all their strength later against Munchen.

Whatever the result, Manchester United must not give up because there is still hope for them to qualify, even though it seems a bit difficult, it still all comes back to luck, I am not a supporter of Manchester United but I am just saying that they have a chance to qualify so they have to play with all their strength to win, the match looks like it will be interesting in group A.

The last chance owned by manchester united. MU needs only to focus on how to beat its opponent. This is the prime target of manchester united. The only possibility I see for Manchester United is to beat Munich; otherwise, I don't see any other options.
Manchester united shall not miss this even though it has really small chance to qualify but why not? Galatasaray and copenhagen will be in a very big gambling. It's caused by they will be trying so hard to qualify for the knock out stage.
Manchester united has very low chance but who knows if MU will able to manage it qualify for the next round in the upcoming stage.

Will ten hag try to rotate its players? I meant if ten hag needs to make sure its player will be in the best performance against bayern. This last chance to pass the group stage. Tan hag is going to use everything in upcoming match.
The sense choice must be MU win or draw. Taking into account that the next game will be played away for Bayern, I think Manchester United has a strong possibility of either winning or drawing against Bayern, despite their strength.

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December 05, 2023, 04:37:24 PM
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There are only two teams that have achieved perfect points in the last 5 matches and that is Real Madrid and Manchester City. These two teams are indeed the ideal finals in each season, but we also don't know the possibility of the two of them meeting first, whether in the quarterfinals or semifinals. These two teams have collected 15 points and only one match remains to close the group stage with 18 points. I can't wait to see these two teams fighting together to be in the higher rounds in the future and also with the new squad depth this season it is clear that the match will be quite even.

Yes indeed, although there are still other big teams in this Champion League but still, it seems that Real Madrid and Manchester City are still the favorite teams in the Champion League this season too. Despite the fact, it seems like Manchester City is also not entirely good this season because ya, maybe the Bruyne factor is injured and it seems that it also makes Manchester City have to work even harder to get good results in every match so far this season. Because ya, at least it is evident for Manchester City current results in the Premier League also seems to have decreased slightly.

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December 05, 2023, 04:43:05 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.

Marcus Rashford having a super season? Have you been watching Volleyball mate? He's been too much of a selfish player you feel me? He'll be dumped on the bench this way. He's takes too much money and can't track back? Did someone use Son of Tottenham Hotspur as  an example? He's older and has been a better player than Marcus Rashford but yet, makes sense when you see him tracking back to mark and defend. Erik Ten Hag should go with a different option against Chelsea otherwise, they'll lose woefully.

They have a good attacker, but there should be more chances created for him! Garnacho doing well but not enough to the standards of his idol Cristiano Ronaldo at a young age, he should do more, he can do better I believe in him!

For the game against Chelsea, Scott MC Tominay shouldn't be used, he should be behind Bruno Fernandez but he doesn't seem to understand positional plays. He should be amongst the list of players leaving the club soon!

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December 05, 2023, 04:46:50 PM
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There are only two teams that have achieved perfect points in the last 5 matches and that is Real Madrid and Manchester City. These two teams are indeed the ideal finals in each season, but we also don't know the possibility of the two of them meeting first, whether in the quarterfinals or semifinals. These two teams have collected 15 points and only one match remains to close the group stage with 18 points. I can't wait to see these two teams fighting together to be in the higher rounds in the future and also with the new squad depth this season it is clear that the match will be quite even.

Probably two of the best football clubs in Europe right now, and both teams are really doing great both in the champions league and in their domestic leagues respectively with Real Madrid at the top of the Spanish laliga with 38 points tied Girona who are in second place whilst Manchester city are in second place behind arsenal with 30 points. The chances that both teams may clash again this season is very high, though one cannot tell wether its gonna be in the round of sixteen, the quarter finals or the semi's but if they both progress beyond these levels then we might see both teams meet in the finals of the UCL which is also possible as a result of their performance this season.











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December 05, 2023, 05:52:15 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.

There is an interesting statistics of Rashford I have seen on the social media recently. In the seasons Rashford has a girlfriend his contribution to Manchester United is just huge. Buth in the other cases it is the opposite.  Grin

Aside from that there is a really sharp decline in Rashford's performance this season. He was like a goal machine in the previous season. He played a big role in Manchester United's finishing the season in top 4 in the English Premier League. But now he is more like a ghost in the attacking area. Manchester United really need his consistent days back otherwise they had better look for other options.

Hojlund is actually doing great in the Champions League but still has 0 goal in the English Premier League. He is very young of course but he must be feeling the pressure there.

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December 05, 2023, 06:06:34 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
I think even if Manchester United had a good striker up front, it wouldn't necessarily lead to victory because their defense line is also weak so there is a greater chance for them to concede. I understand they have to buy a new striker and I'm not sure management will spend any more money to get players in the January window. They've already invested too much money and maybe Erik Ten Hag needs to start reorganizing the right strategy for his team.
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Bayern Munich failed to beat Copenhagen at home just because they had already qualified for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I bet you Bayern Munich will want to beat Manchester United at Old Trafford even if they had qualified for the next round of the Champions League.
Bayern Munich will win Manchester united if they had their qualification at stake, considering their present form, they have a better form than that of Manchester united and on a normal day they will win Manchester united with a good goal margin with little or almost no stress due to Manchester's current form.

In this match, I doubt if that will be the case because Firstly Manchester united is considered to have something at stake meanwhile Bayern Munich almost has none, checking back at the last time both team met in the UCL the game ended in a draw, although I would possibly say Manchester united was in AA better form than they are now and their form most recently has been so inconsistent and almost unpredictable so I can't really tell, probably the consciousness of what's possibly at stake could likely get them to perform better and Bayern may use their rotational players so as to preserve their key players because they have almost not at stake so this may be the advantage Manchester united may have, so we can't be too certain at this moment who will win by the end of the match.

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December 05, 2023, 06:23:22 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
Towards the January transfer window, that's when clubs will be signing strikes and defenders to their teams. By then, I don't think Manchester United would want to sign a single striker only. They would like to sign at least two or three strikers in addition to some defenders since their frontline and defense are shaky.

Concerning Rashford, he has done enough in Manchester United. Ten Hag should find a better replacement or supporter to support him because he has fallen out of form. He needs to stay at the bench for some time until he finds his form to be at his best again.

 
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December 05, 2023, 06:45:30 PM
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There are only two teams that have achieved perfect points in the last 5 matches and that is Real Madrid and Manchester City. These two teams are indeed the ideal finals in each season, but we also don't know the possibility of the two of them meeting first, whether in the quarterfinals or semifinals. These two teams have collected 15 points and only one match remains to close the group stage with 18 points. I can't wait to see these two teams fighting together to be in the higher rounds in the future and also with the new squad depth this season it is clear that the match will be quite even.
Yes indeed, although there are still other big teams in this Champion League but still, it seems that Real Madrid and Manchester City are still the favorite teams in the Champion League this season too. Despite the fact, it seems like Manchester City is also not entirely good this season because ya, maybe the Bruyne factor is injured and it seems that it also makes Manchester City have to work even harder to get good results in every match so far this season. Because ya, at least it is evident for Manchester City current results in the Premier League also seems to have decreased slightly.

This season I consider Bayern Munich as the favorite for the Champions League. Although they could not win the last match. But since they have already qualified for the round of 16, a win in this match was not necessary for them. It is true that Manchester City and Madrid have won all their matches. However, we see several weaknesses between these two groups. Real Madrid's attacking performance has been somewhat erratic. On the other hand, Madrid's midfield is still somewhat unstable. Because of all these, I consider Bayern Munich as the most favourite team.

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December 05, 2023, 06:47:13 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
We have clueless players that have experienced fatigue in games and they're probably having good taste of the game. Manchester united have a standout striker, he's new to the club and already having one of the very best performance in the UEFA Champions League competition this season, but regarding the English Premier League, he's yet to record any solid stats and that's pretty poor on his end. Rasmus Højlund is focused on establishing himself in Old Trafford and under Erik Ten Hag but his teammates are not helping matters at all.

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December 05, 2023, 07:04:14 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
We have clueless players that have experienced fatigue in games and they're probably having good taste of the game. Manchester united have a standout striker, he's new to the club and already having one of the very best performance in the UEFA Champions League competition this season, but regarding the English Premier League, he's yet to record any solid stats and that's pretty poor on his end. Rasmus Højlund is focused on establishing himself in Old Trafford and under Erik Ten Hag but his teammates are not helping matters at all.

I don't know why Højlund was added to the squad by coach Ten Hag. Manchester United's performances last season were erratic. And the team needed an experienced striker. But Ten Hag bought youngster Højlund at a high price without adding an experienced striker to the squad. And as usual, Højlund's erratic performance has made Manchester United's overall performance quite poor. Also Manchester United's match strategy is not good. So Højlund doesn't fit in well with the team. I wouldn't say Højlund isn't being helped by his teammates.

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December 05, 2023, 07:04:26 PM
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Bayern Munich failed to beat Copenhagen at home just because they had already qualified for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I bet you Bayern Munich will want to beat Manchester United at Old Trafford even if they had qualified for the next round of the Champions League.
Bayern Munich will win Manchester united if they had their qualification at stake, considering their present form, they have a better form than that of Manchester united and on a normal day they will win Manchester united with a good goal margin with little or almost no stress due to Manchester's current form.

In this match, I doubt if that will be the case because Firstly Manchester united is considered to have something at stake meanwhile Bayern Munich almost has none, checking back at the last time both teams met in the UCL the game ended in a draw, although I would possibly say Manchester united was in AA better form than they are now and their form most recently has been so inconsistent and almost unpredictable so I can't tell, probably the consciousness of what's possibly at stake could likely get them to perform better and Bayern may use their rotational players to preserve their key players because they have almost not at stake so this may be the advantage Manchester united may have, so we can't be too certain at this moment who will win by the end of the match.
Even though Bayern Munich does not have anything to play for since they qualified for the Uefa Champions League last 16, Bayern Munich would like to beat Manchester United to protect their pride of not losing to a big side like Manchester United. With the current form of Manchester United, they will find it difficult to beat Bayern Munich.

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December 05, 2023, 07:09:44 PM
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Bayern Munich failed to beat Copenhagen at home just because they had already qualified for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I bet you Bayern Munich will want to beat Manchester United at Old Trafford even if they had qualified for the next round of the Champions League.
Bayern Munich will win Manchester united if they had their qualification at stake, considering their present form, they have a better form than that of Manchester united and on a normal day they will win Manchester united with a good goal margin with little or almost no stress due to Manchester's current form.

In this match, I doubt if that will be the case because Firstly Manchester united is considered to have something at stake meanwhile Bayern Munich almost has none, checking back at the last time both teams met in the UCL the game ended in a draw, although I would possibly say Manchester united was in AA better form than they are now and their form most recently has been so inconsistent and almost unpredictable so I can't tell, probably the consciousness of what's possibly at stake could likely get them to perform better and Bayern may use their rotational players to preserve their key players because they have almost not at stake so this may be the advantage Manchester united may have, so we can't be too certain at this moment who will win by the end of the match.
Even though Bayern Munich does not have anything to play for since they qualified for the Uefa Champions League last 16, Bayern Munich would like to beat Manchester United to protect their pride of not losing to a big side like Manchester United. With the current form of Manchester United, they will find it difficult to beat Bayern Munich.

I can't say for sure if Bayern Munich will win against Manchester United. It is believed that Bayern Munich will not prove themselves weak by losing against a big team like Manchester United. They will definitely want to win the away match against United. However, since Bayern Munich have already qualified for the round of 16, this match is not important for them. Bayern Munich did not play to win against Copenhagen in the last match. Their performance was a bit slow.

Bayern Munich's performance in past matches against Manchester United is very good and probably Bayern Munich team won 4 out of last 5 matches. So Bayern Munich team is considered as favorite in the upcoming match as well.

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December 05, 2023, 07:16:58 PM
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I can't say for sure if Bayern Munich will win against Manchester United. It is believed that Bayern Munich will not prove themselves weak by losing against a big team like Manchester United. They will definitely want to win the away match against United. However, since Bayern Munich have already qualified for the round of 16, this match is not important for them. Bayern Munich did not play to win against Copenhagen in the last match. Their performance was a bit slow.

This is not entirely correct; Bayern Munich played to win their last match against Copenhagen, but they were simply unlucky due to Copenhagen's defensive mindset. Copenhagen knew it would be difficult to beat Bayern Munich, so they immediately fought for a draw, which they obtained at the end of the game. When they beat Galatasaray in their final group stage match, the one point from this match will give them an advantage on the table and a better chance of qualifying for the knockout stage.

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Bayern Munich's performance in past matches against Manchester United is very good and probably Bayern Munich team won 4 out of last 5 matches. So Bayern Munich team is considered as favorite in the upcoming match as well.

This is exactly what will happen; Bayern Munich will either win or draw the game. If either of these two outcomes occurs in this match, Manchester United will be eliminated from the Champions League competition, and they will not even be eligible for a Europa League spot if they do not win all three points in the match.

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December 05, 2023, 07:20:03 PM
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There is an interesting statistics of Rashford I have seen on the social media recently. In the seasons Rashford has a girlfriend his contribution to Manchester United is just huge. Buth in the other cases it is the opposite.  Grin

Aside from that there is a really sharp decline in Rashford's performance this season. He was like a goal machine in the previous season. He played a big role in Manchester United's finishing the season in top 4 in the English Premier League. But now he is more like a ghost in the attacking area. Manchester United really need his consistent days back otherwise they had better look for other options.

Hojlund is actually doing great in the Champions League but still has 0 goal in the English Premier League. He is very young of course but he must be feeling the pressure there.

He was used as a central forward, with Wout Weghost closing down and tracking back for him most at times, ( Funny people saw the goals missed and wrong passes made. Wout Weghost work rate and team contribution was massive )
With Marcus Rashford as the nine, has he forgotten everyone passed the ball to him? Why is it difficult to do same? He's no longer the striker and should be more of a team player. Rumours saying his unhappy, I'd love to know his problem. He's more of a different player this season.

Rasmus Hojlund doesn't have all of the best chances created for him but he has impressed in the Champions League with five goals. What happens when he gets those chances and passes?

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December 05, 2023, 07:27:40 PM
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Yes Manchester needs a striker, i think Ten hag rellies so much on Rasfhord having again a nother super season, but when he doesnt have that good season like we are seeing right now, you need a striker who brought you goals, and saves you.

Also they need to stop making so many mistakes on defense and the goalkeeper.... no words for him.
We have clueless players that have experienced fatigue in games and they're probably having good taste of the game. Manchester united have a standout striker, he's new to the club and already having one of the very best performance in the UEFA Champions League competition this season, but regarding the English Premier League, he's yet to record any solid stats and that's pretty poor on his end. Rasmus Højlund is focused on establishing himself in Old Trafford and under Erik Ten Hag but his teammates are not helping matters at all.
At first glance, what many people are talking about seems to be true, that many Manchester United players are selfish. Coupled with Ten Hag harsh style and upbringing, his relationship with each other was not very harmonious, in short, a gap emerged within the club which affected the final result of a match. Hojlund is an unfinished striker, he needs more flying time to increase his experience, and he needs more support to remain confident.

Therefore, it is not surprising that when United play under greater pressure, such as in the UCL, we find Hojlund scoring goals, whereas in the EPL he is barren. I think all the players understand the importance of a win in the UCL, and they are required to lower their egos, because of that we see more balls flowing to Hojlund feet to be converted into goals in UCL. something he didn't get in the EPL. I don't know if I was wrong in rationalizing it, or it could be the opposite, what is clear is that United are in a position that is difficult for everyone to understand.

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December 05, 2023, 07:30:32 PM
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This is why manchester united has been targeting maignan (acmilan). The management was not feeling good with onana's performance. He was making too many blunders since he was coming to the manchester united. I can't even count how many times he was making it.
Manchester united has so many loopholes. I meant if we must also be aware that how manchester united was buying some expensive players but they were totally useless. They have no club what they shall be doing in the club.
Ten hag is being so wasteful. Ten hag needs to find a solution for this. Manchester united needs to buy some players to fill the position on the goal keeper and defenders.

MU needs a better striker as well as hojlund was utterly scam transfer. He performs well in UCL but mU will out from UCL too. He has 0 goals from 10 matches in EPl. The worst striker.

if we just blame Onana it seems unfair and if we say about Man United bad things it seems like many have to be replaced, such as defenders, goalkeepers and strikers, some even say they also have to change their coach.
in this scenario I wonder if Man United is this bad that some people view this team as really bad and even criticize everything in Man United and I dont deny it because it is very natural for me when Ten Hag was still at MU nothing changed but we have to be patient and see after january whether player transfers can change Man United future? It seems not because Man United will clearly not qualify and only hope for the best place in the EPL.

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December 05, 2023, 07:30:42 PM
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I can't say for sure if Bayern Munich will win against Manchester United. It is believed that Bayern Munich will not prove themselves weak by losing against a big team like Manchester United. They will definitely want to win the away match against United. However, since Bayern Munich have already qualified for the round of 16, this match is not important for them. Bayern Munich did not play to win against Copenhagen in the last match. Their performance was a bit slow.

This is not entirely correct; Bayern Munich played to win their last match against Copenhagen, but they were simply unlucky due to Copenhagen's defensive mindset. Copenhagen knew it would be difficult to beat Bayern Munich, so they immediately fought for a draw, which they obtained at the end of the game. When they beat Galatasaray in their final group stage match, the one point from this match will give them an advantage on the table and a better chance of qualifying for the knockout stage.

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Bayern Munich's performance in past matches against Manchester United is very good and probably Bayern Munich team won 4 out of last 5 matches. So Bayern Munich team is considered as favorite in the upcoming match as well.

This is exactly what will happen; Bayern Munich will either win or draw the game. If either of these two outcomes occurs in this match, Manchester United will be eliminated from the Champions League competition, and they will not even be eligible for a Europa League spot if they do not win all three points in the match.

But yes, at least if I consider the schedule with the opponents they will face after this match in the Champions League, the fact is that Bayern Munich will play against Stuttgart in the Bundesliga. Meanwhile for Manchester United, they will play against Liverpool in the Premier League . So yes, with these factors it seems quite possible that Bayern Munich will rest several key players. Because yes, Bayern Munich is also still in tough competition in the Bundesliga at this moment, this is different about Manchester United, which at least no longer has a good chance of being in the top four in the Premier League. If this theory happens, then maybe Manchester United will have a chance to win, but once again, I still believe about the prestige that will certainly make Bayern Munich try not to be beaten by Manchester United this match.

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