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May 19, 2024, 08:36:12 AM
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I'm really happy to see there will be many black horse qualify for Champions League in the next season.

In Premier League, there's Aston Villa.
In Serie A, there's Bologna.
In Bundesliga, there are Leverkusen and Stuttgart.
In La Liga, there's Girona.

Aston Villa and Girona seems not that strong anymore, so I will not expect too much. While Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Bologna, they're recently become really strong.
Surprises are from Aston Villa, Bologna, Atalanta, Stuttgart and Girona. I don't consider appearance of Leverkusen in Champions League next season is a surprise after their very impressive season.

Villa is managed by Unai Emery who in his coach career, has already helped some 'villa' clubs to join Champions League. These clubs are Sevilla, Villareal and now Aston Villa. What clubs will be his next 'villa' clubs?

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May 19, 2024, 08:53:23 AM
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I'm really happy to see there will be many black horse qualify for Champions League in the next season.

In Premier League, there's Aston Villa.
In Serie A, there's Bologna.
In Bundesliga, there are Leverkusen and Stuttgart.
In La Liga, there's Girona.

Aston Villa and Girona seems not that strong anymore, so I will not expect too much. While Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Bologna, they're recently become really strong.
You are right, there are several other teams that will take part in the UCL next season, this is dark horse figure that will make it difficult to fight for the title in the knockout phase and of course they are team that has improved the quality of play very well this season.
But I think the only thing we can hope for from some of these teams is Leverkusen and for the others they might only be eliminated in the group phase or at best the round of 16.
It just that we will never know how they will perform next season, whether they will get better with more significant improvements or even experience decline in performance.
They are team that cannot perform consistently and it will certainly be difficult to expect much from this team, for Leverkusen itself, as long as they are still with Xabi there are still big hopes.

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May 19, 2024, 09:23:58 AM
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Not really, maybe at home they have just seen three or two clean sheets since the start of the round of sixteen in the Champions League Competition.
During the group stage they didn't have too much clean sheets too as I think it was just from three different games, can we say it's good enough?
Paris Saint Germans didn't make good use of whatever they had and when you lose such chances, you miss your chances of winning the gake by a good margin. All if these are caused by lack of chances creation and players that are gamblers and not decisive enough.

People and fans said luck and stuff but I cannot agree to that truthfully.
It's already clear that Real Madrid will defeat Borrussia Dortmund. But if we see the reverse, it gon be mid blowing you see lol.  I'm definitely going to feel that lose for weeks. Lol.

I absolutely agree with the clean sheets. That's why I don't want to call Dortmund's work like it is pure luck or so. They really deserve to be in the finale. Playing good isn't always enough, luck should also help you in some way to ease your job. This has been what happened with Dortmund. But from now on they had better get ready for a much more challenging game.  Smiley

If Dortmund win in the finale it would be an insane result. The last one I got surprised with was Chelsea's title with Tuchel. If Dortmund do this job this year it is going to be another one to be surprised of.  Grin

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May 19, 2024, 09:34:52 AM
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I'm really happy to see there will be many black horse qualify for Champions League in the next season.

In Premier League, there's Aston Villa.
In Serie A, there's Bologna.
In Bundesliga, there are Leverkusen and Stuttgart.
In La Liga, there's Girona.

Aston Villa and Girona seems not that strong anymore, so I will not expect too much. While Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Bologna, they're recently become really strong.
This season Champions League really gives us many surprises, in addition to the club you mentioned, actually we may also still have one other underdog team that might also join the team team namely Brest from Ligue 1, but of course we also have to see until the last match of Ligue 1 ends because indeed the fight for one last ticket to the Champions League is still very tight,  But despite it all, of course, Leverkusen are the most perfect team and may be very ready to face new competition in the Champions League next season.

Honestly, I personally see if Girona and Leverkusen have quality and also a very big chance to be able to compete with big teams in the Champions League next season, Leverkusen so far have a fairly capable squad and of course with the addition of 2 or 3 star players of course they will be able to keep the performance and maybe even surprise us in the Champions League next season like they did in the Bundesliga and also the Europa League This season, in addition to Leverkusen, Girona has a prospect that is also quite bright in the future, because reportedly at this time Girona began to continue to pursue star players for them to get and reportedly if the City Football group began to try to make Girona ready to compete next season by budgeting large funds for Girona to buy new players.

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May 19, 2024, 09:40:11 AM
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I'm really happy to see there will be many black horse qualify for Champions League in the next season.

In Premier League, there's Aston Villa.
In Serie A, there's Bologna.
In Bundesliga, there are Leverkusen and Stuttgart.
In La Liga, there's Girona.

Aston Villa and Girona seems not that strong anymore, so I will not expect too much. While Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Bologna, they're recently become really strong.

I think the stronger of the teams here based on this season performance is without a doubt Leverkussen which closed the season without a lost game while the weaker of the teams for me I have absolutely no doubts it is Aston Villa,a really ugly performance against a much weaker team like Olympiacos saw them eliminated in the most shameful of ways in their European competition so I am not expecting anything good at all out of them.I am interested to see Bologna and Girona as I think they can bring a good surprise element in the upcoming season.

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May 19, 2024, 10:49:02 AM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.

Dortmund's chance was coming from its luck. No more than it. Bellingham was the key player here as he knew that the gameplay of his former club. Im wondering how can we know if it will be a good or bad day for dortmund?  Grin

Facing real madrid in the final is obviously a bad day for dortmund. King madrid will be once again take its 15 times UCL to the santiago bernabeu.

The trophy cabined is waiting for another family to join there.

Believe me, as a Real Madrid fan, I also hope that Real will win again, but I doubt it because everything can’t be that good  Cheesy
How many times have Real Madrid reached the final and how many times have they won in the end? I’m too lazy to check the exact numbers, but it’s something like 95%, what’s that even like? This doesn’t look like a normal distribution, it feels like we are living in a simulation and the one who started it is a fan of Real Madrid  Grin
But of course, if Dortmund wins the Champions League, it will also be a big mockery of common sense: Real won against Bayern and City, became the champion of La Liga, two of its players are in the top as contenders for the Ballon d'Or and suddenly lose to the 5th team in the Bundesliga?
But maybe against the backdrop of Bayer's season, Real Madrid's title will look normal... this season pleases with its plot twists, and there is still the European Championship ahead!

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May 19, 2024, 10:51:57 AM
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I agree with what @Frankolala said that Real Madrid will be the UCL champions this season. Yes this is the opinion of most people. I am not underestimating Dortmund but if in the final match Dortmund will give their all, then Real Madrid will also give their all. So the biggest opportunity remains with Madrid. I give 90:10 odds for Real Madrid and Dortmund. Dortmund performed extraordinary and managed to advance to the final but I think only a miracle can make Dortmund able to beat Madrid.
The odds makes no difference but we should always buckled on the big winnings which will become important for both sides. Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will shakes on that particular days and meeting for something great and magnificent. Borrusia Dortmund will definitely be a headache to Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final this season but we should also check the necessary spots which will become one of the top winning.

Now this is a final and we will have to say that both teams have equal chances. Although Real Madrid seems to have an advantage on paper, Borussia Dortmund can win after 90 minutes. Remember what happened in the match against Paris SG. Paris SG entered dozens of positions and none of them entered the goal. The ball hit the posts and came back into play. That's why it's impossible to say for sure in the final match. My best wish is that it will be an enjoyable match.

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May 19, 2024, 11:06:57 AM
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Dortmund will use all its abilities to face all of Real Madrid's abilities in the Champions League final so it would not be appropriate to underestimate an opponent like Dortmund or vice versa. Both teams still have time to hone the talents of their respective players before the final match begins because this match is a match to use all the abilities that each team has this season. So there are no weak words other than the word luck that must be hoped for by the two teams who in essence will definitely work hard to win in the final.
I agree with what @Frankolala said that Real Madrid will be the UCL champions this season. Yes this is the opinion of most people. I am not underestimating Dortmund but if in the final match Dortmund will give their all, then Real Madrid will also give their all. So the biggest opportunity remains with Madrid. I give 90:10 odds for Real Madrid and Dortmund. Dortmund performed extraordinary and managed to advance to the final but I think only a miracle can make Dortmund able to beat Madrid.

Majority of people are totally agreed with it. real madrid will secure its 15 times UCL trophy this season. Dortmund is considerably strong after it was silently passed all of stages to go to the final against real madrid. It really surprising us caused by dortmund has not been favored by bookies to enter into the final.
This is terzic's chance to bring dortmund as a winner of europea gain. Real madrid is not an easy club. Even manchester city was struggling to beat it through the open play.

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May 19, 2024, 11:40:57 AM
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Perhaps the last Champions League final was held in Turkey but this season's Champions League final match will be held in England. In the event that no Premier League team could qualify for the semi-finals or finals of the Champions League this season, the English will be forced to support either of these two teams, Real Madrid or Dortmund. However, in such matches it is usually seen that the supporters of the two teams that qualified for the finals are more. Since Real Madrid has secured the final I believe minimum 80% of fans will be Real Madrid and they will come to the stadium to cheer their favorite team.

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May 19, 2024, 12:59:27 PM
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Perhaps the last Champions League final was held in Turkey but this season's Champions League final match will be held in England. In the event that no Premier League team could qualify for the semi-finals or finals of the Champions League this season, the English will be forced to support either of these two teams, Real Madrid or Dortmund. However, in such matches it is usually seen that the supporters of the two teams that qualified for the finals are more. Since Real Madrid has secured the final I believe minimum 80% of fans will be Real Madrid and they will come to the stadium to cheer their favorite team.
What is clear is that Wembley will witness the two musts of fans who will fill the stadium in white and yellow. I can't wait to see the two fans from each team competing in choreography to support their favorite team. Here Real Madrid will be like a king who will be challenged by their old enemy and we know that both teams actually have their own history during this competition.

Even though it's not as big as the match against Bayern Munich, what is clear is that Real Madrid still has to face another German team in the last round. I also hope that all the players from both teams are in fit condition so they can watch an exciting match. I don't want this match to just end in a monotone and, if possible, there will be a shower of goals scored, despite the advantage being so far out. I want to see Dortmund put pressure on Real Madrid more than any other team they have ever faced

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May 19, 2024, 02:11:38 PM
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I agree with what @Frankolala said that Real Madrid will be the UCL champions this season. Yes this is the opinion of most people. I am not underestimating Dortmund but if in the final match Dortmund will give their all, then Real Madrid will also give their all. So the biggest opportunity remains with Madrid. I give 90:10 odds for Real Madrid and Dortmund. Dortmund performed extraordinary and managed to advance to the final but I think only a miracle can make Dortmund able to beat Madrid.
The odds makes no difference but we should always buckled on the big winnings which will become important for both sides. Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will shakes on that particular days and meeting for something great and magnificent. Borrusia Dortmund will definitely be a headache to Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final this season but we should also check the necessary spots which will become one of the top winning.

Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid have succeeded in being the best at the moment, the two will meet in the Champions League Final which will be held at Wembley Stadium, if we see that these two teams have different strategies it will be interesting, because both teams also have players who have speed, with this I think there will be many surprises that will happen.

Looking at Borrussia Dortmund as a whole they are playing very well in recent times, although they are not favorites to become champions, their desire to win the championship is very high, likewise with Real Madrid they are also playing very well and quite well. Well, we can no longer doubt the mentality of the Real Madrid players, this season their desire is to get the Champions League Trophy for the 15th time, but if you look at it realistically, Real Madrid is very superior in every way compared to Dortmund, but this will still being a fierce final match, Dortmund should not be underestimated.

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The odds makes no difference but we should always buckled on the big winnings which will become important for both sides. Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will shakes on that particular days and meeting for something great and magnificent. Borrusia Dortmund will definitely be a headache to Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final this season but we should also check the necessary spots which will become one of the top winning.
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 #24593

Perhaps the last Champions League final was held in Turkey but this season's Champions League final match will be held in England. In the event that no Premier League team could qualify for the semi-finals or finals of the Champions League this season, the English will be forced to support either of these two teams, Real Madrid or Dortmund. However, in such matches it is usually seen that the supporters of the two teams that qualified for the finals are more. Since Real Madrid has secured the final I believe minimum 80% of fans will be Real Madrid and they will come to the stadium to cheer their favorite team.
For those who support one of these two teams to become champions, I think currently Borussia Dortmund will really hope to become champions, because Real Madrid is considered very strong and when they succeed in becoming champions again this season, then once again they will succeed. they became a team that managed to add the Champions League trophy to their cupboard.

Even though Real Madrid is the favorite team to win, I think many people want Borussia Dortmund to become champions. Borussia Dortmund must play without a burden in this match, because if they play with a big burden it will not be very good for them. It's possible that their game will be messed up if played with a full load. They have to enjoy this match, they have to be confident, because they are the 2 best teams in Europe at the moment based on the Champoins League competition.

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May 19, 2024, 03:06:34 PM
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Perhaps the last Champions League final was held in Turkey but this season's Champions League final match will be held in England. In the event that no Premier League team could qualify for the semi-finals or finals of the Champions League this season, the English will be forced to support either of these two teams, Real Madrid or Dortmund. However, in such matches it is usually seen that the supporters of the two teams that qualified for the finals are more. Since Real Madrid has secured the final I believe minimum 80% of fans will be Real Madrid and they will come to the stadium to cheer their favorite team.
The final match will be played at Wembley Stadium on June 1, 2024, the match will of course be held at a neutral venue and if previously the Champions League was held in Turkey this season we will see the final take place in England although it is quite unfortunate that none of the English teams have been able to reach the final round of the Champions League this season,  I think for now the number of Madrid and Dortmund fans is of course quite a lot in England because England is a destination country for tourists and also workers from various countries in the world, so it is not surprising that Wembley will be filled with spectators even though it Is not a Premier League team that will play in the final later.

I think so far the number of spectator tickets for both teams will be limited to a certain limit, so maybe we will see both teams have a balanced percentage of supporters later, even though both teams play in places far from their respective cities but I think it will not hinder the intention of fans of both teams to come to England and see their favorite team play at Wembley later.

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May 19, 2024, 04:03:04 PM
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In the upcoming match, I am still confident that Madrid will still win even though Dortmund has a strong defense, but Dortmund has weaknesses on the side which Madrid will exploit.
Still, Madrid should not underestimate Dortmund because their progress to the final was full of hard work, therefore it is important for Dortmund to be able to play as hard as possible to win or maintain a draw and hope for luck in the penalty shootout, but even so, Dortmund could still get lucky when facing Madrid later, even though they have to win narrowly, that's why Madrid shouldn't underestimate Dortmund's ability. It's enough for them to prepare themselves and play fully to face the final, soon the UCL final match will start, of course both teams have to prepare everything and finish the remaining matches in the league. domestic.

Dortmund has prepared themselves because the Bundesliga has finished so Dortmund has time to prepare themselves while Madrid has to finish the last few matches they have to face and of course Ancelotti also has to be able to rotate players appropriately so that when the UCL final comes, Madrid must be able to face Dortmund with full strength. and play optimally so they can win their 15th UCL title which they have been chasing since last season. This season they will definitely try hard to get it.

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May 19, 2024, 04:12:21 PM
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The odds makes no difference but we should always buckled on the big winnings which will become important for both sides. Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will shakes on that particular days and meeting for something great and magnificent. Borrusia Dortmund will definitely be a headache to Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final this season but we should also check the necessary spots which will become one of the top winning.
Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will both use the full abilities of the team they are training this season in the final match because that is when both of them must use all the team's abilities. So it won't be easy to win and both will be equally difficult to win, but in this case I still have more confidence in Carlo Ancelotti's way of placing his strategy for the final match. Because he knows how to place players who are more suitable in important lines during decisive matches like that and Borrussia Dortmund will also have difficulties in that match.
I hope so, both coaches can field the best players they have to play in this final match. I don't expect them to be a lame club because they can't play with their full squad because they have to lose players due to injury or something that requires them to rest.

Talking about players, Carlo Ancelotti certainly has many options, because the players he has have very good abilities, and it is almost balanced between main players and reserve players, so he will be able to use anyone to play with.

Borussia Dortmund is also good, but it is not like what Real Madrid has, or in other words they are still not better than the squad depth that Real Madrid has. I hope both clubs can provide a spectacle that will be difficult to forget. I also don't expect the superiority on paper that Real Madrid now holds to make Borussia Dortmund mentally weak.

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The luck factor is also accompanied by the hard work of the Dortmund players and it must be admitted that Dortmund's defensive performance is quite impressive.
The final match against Real Madrid is not easy but Dortmund still has a chance.

I will not underestimate Dortmund because I think the final match will be different compared to other matches, especially in the Champions League final match, anything is possible.
Dortmund will use all its abilities to face all of Real Madrid's abilities in the Champions League final so it would not be appropriate to underestimate an opponent like Dortmund or vice versa. Both teams still have time to hone the talents of their respective players before the final match begins because this match is a match to use all the abilities that each team has this season. So there are no weak words other than the word luck that must be hoped for by the two teams who in essence will definitely work hard to win in the final.
Anything can happen in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is a team that knows how to win and is not worried about winning. This is very important. Dortmund will feel under a lot of pressure against the fans. As you said, Dortmund is not a team to be underestimated. If they have lucky days, why not, it is still a low probability. There is one person who will keep the Dortmund defense busy for a long time, it is none other than Vinicous Jr.
Madrid is the best club in the UCL, they know how they will end the season by winning the UCL title, especially with the opponent they are facing, in my opinion it is not that tough when compared to Man City or Bayern Munich, I see that Borussia Dortmund is not a club that can beat Madrid but It's true, as you said, anything can happen even though the possibility of winning is only small because Madrid is strong enough to knock out their opponents when they are in the final.

Don't forget Bellingham and Rodrygo who will keep Borussia Dortmund's defense system busy and maybe Anceloti will use Joselu if needed when Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo have difficulty scoring goals. Anceloti always has a way to play strategy in the UCL. He is a coach who is good at making decisions even in Even though times are difficult, I can't wait for Madrid to win the UCL title again this season.

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May 19, 2024, 05:07:15 PM
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Madrid is the best club in the UCL, they know how they will end the season by winning the UCL title, especially with the opponent they are facing, in my opinion it is not that tough when compared to Man City or Bayern Munich, I see that Borussia Dortmund is not a club that can beat Madrid but It's true, as you said, anything can happen even though the possibility of winning is only small because Madrid is strong enough to knock out their opponents when they are in the final.

Don't forget Bellingham and Rodrygo who will keep Borussia Dortmund's defense system busy and maybe Anceloti will use Joselu if needed when Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo have difficulty scoring goals. Anceloti always has a way to play strategy in the UCL. He is a coach who is good at making decisions even in Even though times are difficult, I can't wait for Madrid to win the UCL title again this season.
There is no doubt that they are the best team in the Champions League, with their success in recording 14 titles, making them the team that has won the most Champions League titles, and even this title is very far compared to other teams. Now they have a big chance of increasing their Champions League trophy tally to 15, if they manage to win in the final, and it looks like that will happen.
Even though they are young players, Real Madrid's young players managed to show excellent play, so they became a real threat to Borussia Dortmund's defense. Now Borussia Dortmund must focus on defense, because there are many Real Madrid players who can break into their defensive area. If they have just a little gap, then Real Madrid players can really exploit it. However, I also hope that Borussia Dortmund don't just play defensively, I hope they also use an attacking game, because if they defend maybe it will make the match monotonous. But on the other hand I also think that maybe they want to take the game to a penalty shootout.

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May 19, 2024, 05:33:40 PM
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The luck factor is also accompanied by the hard work of the Dortmund players and it must be admitted that Dortmund's defensive performance is quite impressive.
The final match against Real Madrid is not easy but Dortmund still has a chance.

I will not underestimate Dortmund because I think the final match will be different compared to other matches, especially in the Champions League final match, anything is possible.
Dortmund will use all its abilities to face all of Real Madrid's abilities in the Champions League final so it would not be appropriate to underestimate an opponent like Dortmund or vice versa. Both teams still have time to hone the talents of their respective players before the final match begins because this match is a match to use all the abilities that each team has this season. So there are no weak words other than the word luck that must be hoped for by the two teams who in essence will definitely work hard to win in the final.
Anything can happen in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is a team that knows how to win and is not worried about winning. This is very important. Dortmund will feel under a lot of pressure against the fans. As you said, Dortmund is not a team to be underestimated. If they have lucky days, why not, it is still a low probability. There is one person who will keep the Dortmund defense busy for a long time, it is none other than Vinicous Jr.
Madrid is the best club in the UCL, they know how they will end the season by winning the UCL title, especially with the opponent they are facing, in my opinion it is not that tough when compared to Man City or Bayern Munich, I see that Borussia Dortmund is not a club that can beat Madrid but It's true, as you said, anything can happen even though the possibility of winning is only small because Madrid is strong enough to knock out their opponents when they are in the final.

Don't forget Bellingham and Rodrygo who will keep Borussia Dortmund's defense system busy and maybe Anceloti will use Joselu if needed when Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo have difficulty scoring goals. Anceloti always has a way to play strategy in the UCL. He is a coach who is good at making decisions even in Even though times are difficult, I can't wait for Madrid to win the UCL title again this season.

I agree with you. The best club in the Champions League is Real Madrid. And Madrid's dominance in the Champions League is palpable. Madrid have won the Champions League title 14 times in total and finished as runners-up 3 times. Madrid have won the title most times since qualifying for the final. On the other hand, the Dortmund team has won the title only once. The team won the title in 1997. And runners up only once. So naturally, Real Madrid is considered the favorite for the Champions League final.

Real Madrid is in very good form this season as well. Madrid have a very experienced coach and a stable squad. However, Dortmund's defense is also very strong. And I would say the team qualified for the finals because of the strong defense. I look forward to seeing Ancelotti step up to break down this strong defence.

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Perhaps the last Champions League final was held in Turkey but this season's Champions League final match will be held in England. In the event that no Premier League team could qualify for the semi-finals or finals of the Champions League this season, the English will be forced to support either of these two teams, Real Madrid or Dortmund. However, in such matches it is usually seen that the supporters of the two teams that qualified for the finals are more. Since Real Madrid has secured the final I believe minimum 80% of fans will be Real Madrid and they will come to the stadium to cheer their favorite team.

It doesn't matter if there will be more Real Madrid or Dortmund supporters in the stands because it is clear, basically Real Madrid has a very good winning mentality. Therefore, even though for example there will be more Dortmund supporters in the stands but still, Real Madrid will still be able to play well. However, that doesn't mean I underestimate Dortmund,  but in reality Real Madrid has better quality. Therefore, of course it is not surprising that in reality Real Madrid is also the favorite team to win, but of course Dortmund will also do their best, and so any team it will still not be easy to win in a final match like this.

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