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May 31, 2024, 11:37:58 AM
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as we know, all matches that are a final are always a separate match and therefore it is almost always impossible to predict the outcome also considering the value of the teams (I don't think there is a huge difference) for the bookmakers it seems so but I don't think it's appropriate to go too far, I believe that Borussia can reserve some great surprises for us and I sincerely hope so and sincerely if they win there will be 6 German teams in Europe if I'm not mistaken..
I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.

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May 31, 2024, 12:28:36 PM
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as we know, all matches that are a final are always a separate match and therefore it is almost always impossible to predict the outcome also considering the value of the teams (I don't think there is a huge difference) for the bookmakers it seems so but I don't think it's appropriate to go too far, I believe that Borussia can reserve some great surprises for us and I sincerely hope so and sincerely if they win there will be 6 German teams in Europe if I'm not mistaken..
I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.
Yes Dortmund must also be given respect because they have successfully reached the final. It is not easy for any team to be able to perform in the final but Dortmund has shown its capacity. Real Madrid has always been a favorite in this tournament and they certainly will not underestimate the opponent. Madrid has a big target to win its 15th title and Ancelotti also wants to create history with El Real.

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May 31, 2024, 12:50:00 PM
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Unexpected results can indeed occur. But I probably wouldn't expect Dortmund to pull off such a surprise. Atalanta might be able to make a surprise against Leverkusen in the Europa League Final. But this might happen because Xabi Alonso is not very experienced in facing big matches like the Europa League Final. And of course the conditions will be different from Real Madrid, which is very experienced in big matches such as the UCL Final. And Ancelotti certainly won't make any unnecessary mistakes. So I'm sure Real Madrid will make a good game and won't make many mistakes. But I also don't want to underestimate Dortmund. because even though Real Madrid doesn't make mistakes it doesn't mean that Real Madrid doesn't have gaps. because it is possible that Dortmund has analyzed Real Madrid's performance well so far and has created a strategy that can make Real Madrid open a gap.
Difference with Carlo Ancelotti had much experienced for winning all Champion League final match, its only one time Carlo Ancelotti loss in the Champion League final match when becoming AC Milan manager on the final season 2005 against Liverpool after crucial come back at second half match. I think when experienced tactician would be difference team perform and I doubt Dortmund will make surprised such as unfavorite team Atalanta success defeating Bayern Leverkusen in the final of Europe League.

Carlo Ancelotti have won 4 of 5 appearance in Champion League matches with two difference teams Real Madrid and AC Milan, he has bigger winning ration when his team playing in the final match and I think Carlo Ancelotti will win his 5th Champion League trophies in his career as team manager. Tomorrow is moment to see Real Madrid celebrate their winning Champion League trophy and become most success team in  Europe by winning 15 trophies.

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May 31, 2024, 01:04:16 PM
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I'm happy to hear this optimistic sentence, because as Madrid supporters we can be more alert, Ancelotti already knows what to do in the final. So I have no doubts about that even though some people are starting to have high hopes for Dortmund just because of comparing the Europa League final competition. I will put this match aside because this is the UCL Final as well as the biggest match where Madrid has many surprises for their opponents and will provide valuable lessons on how to play in the final.
I have always been of the opinion that Madrid isn't going to allow themselves be victims of situations considering they ha e been able to see all that's happening this season with finals and aswell looking at their depth of experience with the champions league finals, it's really going to be a very special case for Madrid to not win this trophy at this stage with the depth if the team and their mentality.

Dortmund actually end up doing more of learning in this finals where they will basically get to learn or gather an experience in the champions league finals just Incase they are opportuned to get there some day again, from their depth of experience they will be able to know what to do and how well they will handle the game but as it is with Madrid the odds are just to high for them to mess this up and I'm of a strong opinion in favour of Madrid after thoroughly checking and comparing this two teams in all their capabilities so far and I'm convinced Madrid has got a much more better chance.

I know it's a competition and definitely Dortmund isn't going to play to loose because if they had any intention of loosing the game in the first place they wouldn't even attempt the game but because they have the mind set that winning is possible they eventually have to make sure they try their best and hope they get lucky at the end of the day even if it looks like most of the odds are against them but you never can tell some day they will get lucky.

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May 31, 2024, 01:05:05 PM
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as we know, all matches that are a final are always a separate match and therefore it is almost always impossible to predict the outcome also considering the value of the teams (I don't think there is a huge difference) for the bookmakers it seems so but I don't think it's appropriate to go too far, I believe that Borussia can reserve some great surprises for us and I sincerely hope so and sincerely if they win there will be 6 German teams in Europe if I'm not mistaken..
I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.
Yes Dortmund must also be given respect because they have successfully reached the final. It is not easy for any team to be able to perform in the final but Dortmund has shown its capacity. Real Madrid has always been a favorite in this tournament and they certainly will not underestimate the opponent. Madrid has a big target to win its 15th title and Ancelotti also wants to create history with El Real.

Real Madrid is perfectly prepared for final match against dortmund soon, it surprises me there are many people who favored dortmund to win the game without even trying to remember the track record of real madrid. Ancellotti will preserve any measures made by Dortmund in order to prevent Dortmund from winning the UCL championship this season and he will provide the right strategy in order to prevent dortmund to win the game. I'm hopeful that Real Madrid can once again smash Dortmund in the final and this is gonna be a very bad time for dortmund to lose against real madrid. Sometimes, your luck can help you make it to the final of Europe's most tough football championship like UCL. Madrid is an extremely strong club at this time with so many great talents. Ancellotti is also a brilliant coach who may devise a very excellent method to destroy Dortmund's strategy in the upcoming game.

I have a feeling Madrid will go much better than previously in order to add its UCL trophy to be 15. Dortmund has consistently played passively since the group stage and im sure ancellotti aware of this. It dominated the encounter when Dortmund faced the weakest club.
Dortmund has lost two games this season. It demonstrates that Dortmund still has a weakness when compared to Real Madrid.

Madrid still has a good potential of scoring many goals shortly.

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May 31, 2024, 01:35:21 PM
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I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.
Yes Dortmund must also be given respect because they have successfully reached the final. It is not easy for any team to be able to perform in the final but Dortmund has shown its capacity. Real Madrid has always been a favorite in this tournament and they certainly will not underestimate the opponent. Madrid has a big target to win its 15th title and Ancelotti also wants to create history with El Real.

Only two days left. Real Madrid vs Dortmund.  Right now even though I do not have much expectation From Dortmund, I just hope that the match is going to be competitive. Most of the people are expecting that this match is going to be one sided. I understand why that is the case. Real Madrid is definitely supposed to win this match very easily. But I personally have some hope. Because nobody actually had given Dortmund any chance they have still been able to get to the final of the Champions League. So maybe, just maybe there is some surprises waiting to happen for us in the Champions League final. Yes on paper Real Madrid is very scary and is definitely going to win, but on paper, Dortmund was also not supposed to be the finalist in the Champions League.

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May 31, 2024, 01:40:30 PM
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Unexpected results can indeed occur. But I probably wouldn't expect Dortmund to pull off such a surprise. Atalanta might be able to make a surprise against Leverkusen in the Europa League Final. But this might happen because Xabi Alonso is not very experienced in facing big matches like the Europa League Final. And of course the conditions will be different from Real Madrid, which is very experienced in big matches such as the UCL Final. And Ancelotti certainly won't make any unnecessary mistakes. So I'm sure Real Madrid will make a good game and won't make many mistakes. But I also don't want to underestimate Dortmund. because even though Real Madrid doesn't make mistakes it doesn't mean that Real Madrid doesn't have gaps. because it is possible that Dortmund has analyzed Real Madrid's performance well so far and has created a strategy that can make Real Madrid open a gap.
Difference with Carlo Ancelotti had much experienced for winning all Champion League final match, its only one time Carlo Ancelotti loss in the Champion League final match when becoming AC Milan manager on the final season 2005 against Liverpool after crucial come back at second half match. I think when experienced tactician would be difference team perform and I doubt Dortmund will make surprised such as unfavorite team Atalanta success defeating Bayern Leverkusen in the final of Europe League.

Carlo Ancelotti have won 4 of 5 appearance in Champion League matches with two difference teams Real Madrid and AC Milan, he has bigger winning ration when his team playing in the final match and I think Carlo Ancelotti will win his 5th Champion League trophies in his career as team manager. Tomorrow is moment to see Real Madrid celebrate their winning Champion League trophy and become most success team in  Europe by winning 15 trophies.
It is true that the figure of Ancelotti will be one of the differences in the final match later, the Italian man is very experienced and he has felt how hard the competition and the sweetness of the Champions League title. Now the second season is in the coach of Madrid and he will definitely try hard to re -carve out new history. Ahead of the final match, Don Carlo will also not be confused with the condition of the players, according to the release issued by all the players already available, except Courtois and Alaba which may still be doubted to get into Starting XI.

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May 31, 2024, 02:02:10 PM
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I've already made a bet with my friend who supports Real Madrid hehe

But now I'm not sure which bet to place now
Real's win is only 1.67 odds, I don't know if it's worth the risk of it being a final and the game going to extra time again
Betting on Borussia seems like a good risk and return with 5.20 odds

I'm trying to find a good bet here but every time I think of an outcome I can imagine something totally different happening
Last year's final was easier to predict than this one  Huh


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May 31, 2024, 02:04:14 PM
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Yes Dortmund must also be given respect because they have successfully reached the final. It is not easy for any team to be able to perform in the final but Dortmund has shown its capacity. Real Madrid has always been a favorite in this tournament and they certainly will not underestimate the opponent. Madrid has a big target to win its 15th title and Ancelotti also wants to create history with El Real.
The team that has made it to the final is the best team and it cannot be denied, Dortmund have defeated many other top European teams so that they have succeeded in being in the Champions League final this season.

Real Madrid is indeed the team that is nicknamed the king of the Champions League, they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles so it is natural that they are slightly favored, but what you also have to remember is that in the final match anything is possible to happen, what happened in the Europa final This season's league is proof of that.

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May 31, 2024, 02:13:30 PM
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I've already made a bet with my friend who supports Real Madrid hehe

But now I'm not sure which bet to place now
Real's win is only 1.67 odds, I don't know if it's worth the risk of it being a final and the game going to extra time again
Betting on Borussia seems like a good risk and return with 5.20 odds

I'm trying to find a good bet here but every time I think of an outcome I can imagine something totally different happening
Last year's final was easier to predict than this one  ??
I would like to wait for the match kick off, after 15 or 30 minutes, you will have better odds to bet if you are favorite in Real Madrid.

I see Dortmund will not collapse or get a conceded goal too early in the final and by this, odds on Real Madrid for you to bet will possibly become better. You will have less risk than if you choose Real Madrid and bet before the final match kicks off.

I believe Real Madrid will be a champion but for betting, you need to wait for better odds because this match will be tight and winner will be decided by only one goal difference.

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May 31, 2024, 02:20:21 PM
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I've already made a bet with my friend who supports Real Madrid hehe

But now I'm not sure which bet to place now
Real's win is only 1.67 odds, I don't know if it's worth the risk of it being a final and the game going to extra time again
Betting on Borussia seems like a good risk and return with 5.20 odds

I'm trying to find a good bet here but every time I think of an outcome I can imagine something totally different happening
Last year's final was easier to predict than this one  Huh
If you believe in Dortmund, double chance bet "Dortmund or draw" is worthy to risk. Another choice is to bet both teams will not score, I see Real Madrid have a good defense and Dortmund don't have a good attacking line.

I personally prefer to bet both teams will not score considering the chance Dortmund will pull an upset is really low.


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May 31, 2024, 02:33:27 PM
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I would like to wait for the match kick off, after 15 or 30 minutes, you will have better odds to bet if you are favorite in Real Madrid.

I see Dortmund will not collapse or get a conceded goal too early in the final and by this, odds on Real Madrid for you to bet will possibly become better. You will have less risk than if you choose Real Madrid and bet before the final match kicks off.

I believe Real Madrid will be a champion but for betting, you need to wait for better odds because this match will be tight and winner will be decided by only one goal difference.
Betting after the match starts seems to be the right choice to see what the performance patterns of the two clubs are and it will definitely be easier for us to decide to bet on the right choice with higher odds.
Gamblers usually use this method, but I prefer to place a bet before the match starts to get a bigger chance of winning because I have a long time to analyze the development of Real Madrid and Dortmund.
I will take a gamble by betting on 1x2 to get odds that are not too big and for me this will be my best choice.

Dortmund cannot overcome Real Madrid's strength easily, even though they beat PSG, which has star players, but Real Madrid has more experienced players and already knows what to do to beat Dortmund.

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May 31, 2024, 02:35:58 PM
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So we have to wait till the end of the game which team can win and secure the title.
Hi, I'm from the future, Real Madrid become the champion.
I hope not, if it's true then the match will definitely have been decided by the football mafia mafia because it's very strange with Real Madrid's scores in several important matches, in fact I hope that Dortmund will come out as champions whatever the results, we'll see, even if you Even coming from the future or from a planet could be wrong.

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May 31, 2024, 02:38:21 PM
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No matter how strong the Real Madrid team is, any team can be aggressive in the final match. On the other hand, the Borussia Dortmund team, since they are guaranteed to reach the final match, must have come to the final with a lot of hard work, so they will also try to perform well. 

Because the most reputation will increase if they can secure victory in the final match, so no team will want to miss out on the title, while Real Madrid team can perform well in the past matches, but they will try their best in the final. So we have to wait till the end of the game which team can win and secure the title.
One thing I know about football is, It's the best-performing and well-prepared team that reached the finals. Any team that finds their way to reach the final of any league competition will pull out their whole might and strategy to make sure they defeat their opponents, even if it is assumed that the opponent they are up against is far better or more formidable than them, they will try to challenge their opponent squarely, maybe luck may shine on them to win and lift the league trophy as a surprise.

The final match of the UCL between Real Madrid and Dortmund, tomorrow, can come as a surprise to us as the way the Europe League did in favor of Atalanta over Leverkusen. Notwithstanding, that's football anything can happen. A team someone predicted to win over the other, can lose. That doesn't change the fun of betting or stop one not to bet on football matches.

For tomorrow's Champions League final, I am giving it up to Real Madrid to lift the Champions League trophy by 2 goals to 1 against Dortmund

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May 31, 2024, 02:46:05 PM
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So we have to wait till the end of the game which team can win and secure the title.
Hi, I'm from the future, Real Madrid become the champion.
I hope not, if it's true then the match will definitely have been decided by the football mafia mafia because it's very strange with Real Madrid's scores in several important matches, in fact I hope that Dortmund will come out as champions whatever the results, we'll see, even if you Even coming from the future or from a planet could be wrong.

It's just a prediction and whatever the result can happen, you yourself predict that Dortmund will win but in reality, there is no complete guarantee that Dortmund will win either. So yes, they are just making predictions and there is nothing wrong about their predictions, but they are exaggerating when they and perhaps you too become fanatical exaggerations to say your chosen team will win. After all, basically Real Madrid is of course still the best team, so it is not surprising and not strange if Real Madrid is the team that is highly projected to win in the Champions League final match. For me, this is not strange at all, because basically Real Madrid clearly has a lot of experience in the Champions League so that Real Madrid has the status of the team that has won the most Champions League trophies.

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May 31, 2024, 02:56:41 PM
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I totally agree with you. The Dortmund team could also turn out to be formidable in the final match. We got proof of that in the Europa League final. We considered Leverkusen as favourites. Despite a great performance throughout the season, Leverkusen lost the final match against Atalanta by a huge margin of 3–0. This was a completely unexpected result. And that was Leverkusen's only defeat this season.

Real Madrid is the favorite in this match. But if Madrid make any mistake in the match then there is a big possibility of their defeat. Although Dortmund's performance has been somewhat erratic, there is no way to consider this team weak. Madrid must play very carefully and must perform well.
Dortmund might utterly shock. They're hungry, talented, and a Champions League final can go either way.  But we're talking about Real Madrid., their territory. Ancelotti's a big-game maestro. He's seen and done it all and understands how to prepare his team for combat

Dortmund may have done their research, but Ancelotti and his team have also studied hard. They'll struggle to keep the crown from those German kids. Dortmund has a chance. They definitely do. When it comes to experience, strategy, and determination to win, Real Madrid has the edge. It's gonna be a hell of a match, no doubt, but I gotta go with the guys who've been there and done that

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May 31, 2024, 03:04:18 PM
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On Saturday is going to be a wonderful day in the world of football,and in the history of Dortmund, because they are going straight to lift that trophy.Real Madrid already know now that they really have something serious they need to prepare for because Dortmund has the best defence in the Champions league this season,and if Madrid will be able to beak it,they must device a means that will enable them get past those defenders.Dortmund must depend on counter attacks if they want to get goals in this match because I know Madrid are going to dominate them totally in terms of play and possession,but Dortmund will get more chances than Madrid due to the counter attack system.

For me Real Madrid is going to win the match because of the way Real Madrid plays this season, I know that Dortmund performed well in the champion League this season but the way Real Madrid plays this season makes it very clear that Real Madrid will win the game and take the trophy, if it is the counter-attack Real Madrid is the one that likes to play the kind of football and with the way Vinicius and Rodrygo played this season Dortmund defensive players are going to suffer in the match because Real Madrid will want to score an early goal in the match to make Dortmund weak before the end of the game.

Real Madrid will dominate the game and they will still win, there is no position that Dortmund has and Real Madrid doesn’t have it, the only player that Real Madrid needs to mark very well is the wing player of Dortmund and if they hold them without no allow them to create any chances Real Madrid is going to get another chance to win the game, Courtios will be the goalkeeper in the game and I’m very confident that he will do anything to stop many shots from scoring, this is very sure that Real Madrid will win the game.

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May 31, 2024, 03:05:22 PM
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as we know, all matches that are a final are always a separate match and therefore it is almost always impossible to predict the outcome also considering the value of the teams (I don't think there is a huge difference) for the bookmakers it seems so but I don't think it's appropriate to go too far, I believe that Borussia can reserve some great surprises for us and I sincerely hope so and sincerely if they win there will be 6 German teams in Europe if I'm not mistaken..
I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.
Yes, I agree with you that there are different strengths between Borussia Dortmund players and Real Madrid players which some people have experienced such strength from Real Madrid in the la Liga league competition with a highest points while some have experienced some strength from Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA champions league competition that made them to qualified for final game.

I know it will be difficult for Real Madrid fans to accept that Borussia Dortmund players have more strength than Real Madrid in this season, which they will use this final game to know that Borussia Dortmund players have more strength than Real Madrid by lifting the UEFA champions league trophy.

It will be difficult for Real Madrid to have that luck they had last season to lift the trophy in this season, because Borussia Dortmund players will not allow them to drive to such direction to win the trophy.

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Dortmund might utterly shock. They're hungry, talented, and a Champions League final can go either way.  But we're talking about Real Madrid., their territory. Ancelotti's a big-game maestro. He's seen and done it all and understands how to prepare his team for combat

Dortmund may have done their research, but Ancelotti and his team have also studied hard. They'll struggle to keep the crown from those German kids. Dortmund has a chance. They definitely do. When it comes to experience, strategy, and determination to win, Real Madrid has the edge. It's gonna be a hell of a match, no doubt, but I gotta go with the guys who've been there and done that

The first part of your message here made me smile because I agree, Dortmund might utterly shock! No joke!

When we only consider all the obvious things, then sure Real Madrid is set to win their next title and Ancelotti is the right guy in the right place at the right point in time.

But in a game like this I think it doesn't really matter who you are up against. It doesn't matter whether it is Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund or PSG. See how Bayern Munich performed in the Bundesliga and it was extremely close, if not unfair if you take into account this mysterious referee decision where they decided offside within a blink of an eye against all rules.

But ok, it is what it is for now and Real Madrid knows how Dortmund played at 150% their capacity against Atletico Madrid and PSG. Add some luck into the equation.

Real Madrid has the edge and nobody would doubt that, but Dortmund has something, too. It is the fact that nobody believes they can do it except for their own hardcore fans maybe. Real Madrid could be caught surprise. See, early corner for Dortmund and Hummels scores one of these important headers. All is good, early in the game, still time to come back. But now players like Adeyemi could play some deadly counter attacks.

These games are meant to write history for everyone, for the players and for the fans. Everyone believes to know that it is hardly worth watching the game if you will. Of course everyone will watch it, but I am referring to the outcome and that it's decided already. But I am not so sure. Would I be brave enough to put my money on Dortmund? No  Grin But I think it is going to be a very enjoyable game. Dortmund has some options here.

But really no doubt here that Dortmund needs the best game of the season. It was great against Atletico, it was even better against PSG, and now the time has come for them to play a flawless game and hope for some luck that this or that chance is a goal when on another day they would instead hit the post or the cross bar. I am excited and can't wait. Very good to know that none of the teams has any injuries I believe? I always hope for teams in a final to be able to bring on their best squads.

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May 31, 2024, 03:21:06 PM
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Real Madrid is a club that is strong in attacking and Dortmund is a club that is strong enough to play defensive strategies, therefore the match will look interesting because it doesn't look like many goals will be scored because Dortmund will probably only rely on counter attacks to hold back their opponents, but Real Madrid also has The defense is quite strong, it is proven that Real Madrid only concedes a few goals among other clubs in La Liga, but in the Champions League, unlike in La Liga, clubs will do everything in this big competition and prove which of them is the best.

This will be a crucial match and as the end of the season in Europe, to be honest I'm not in too much of a rush to see this match because I still want to see the big matches but no matter what the season will definitely end and will be replaced by a new season again I will definitely bored when the season ends because we don't watch important European football and probably only watch friendly matches for a while before the start of the season starts again.

regardless of the fact that playing defensively is boring and we pay for tickets or pay TV to watch beautiful games full of goals, but if you play defensively sooner or later you make a mistake and they score a goal
I don`t consider it a healthy strategy
however, playing too offensively exposes you to counter attacks and counter-foots, so in my opinion we need balance and if we want Real Madrid is more balanced as a team

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