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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
Beşiktaş - 8 (36.4%)
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Galatasaray - 9 (40.9%)
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August 07, 2023, 09:29:23 AM
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But after this round which is the last one before the group stage they are likely to face a much stronger team. Until then they had better get ready. Otherwise it would be sad to see them saying goodbye early with a strong squad like this.

In the last round before the group stage we will be seeded again and we will face teams that are weaker than us, but I'm worried about our current performance.

The draw will take place today and we will play the winner of one of these matches in the next round.

Antwerp
Rakow - Aris
Molde - Klaksvik
Slovan Bratislava - Maccabi Haifa

If we eliminate Lublijana, we will have to eliminate one more of these teams to qualify for the Champions League.

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August 07, 2023, 10:30:08 AM
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The league will be difficult for Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe, Beşiktaş and Adana Demirspor in the first weeks because these teams have European qualifying matches.
There may be points losses in the league, it's okay for me if they don't get eliminated from Europe.

I don't think there will be any loss of points, but if they do, it's normal. Qualifying to groups in European cups is very important for all our teams, and if points are to be lost in the league for this, I would say that's okay. All our representatives in Europe must be successful and bring more coefficient points. Turkish clubs should be in better places. They shouldn't just focus on the league title.
The teams who compete in Europe should definitely advance and bring Turkey to a better place but the points in the league are also crucial. We have seen the last season second half, all of the big teams performed particularly good and had so much points. I expect it to continue. Even Beşiktaş, who got behind in the transfer race, will probably perform good in the league and get a lot of points. So, for the race of the championship, any points in the beginning of the season is also crucial. This doesn't mean that they should not perform 100% in the european games. That is just the way it is. They should get full wins from european games and try not to lose any points from the Super League. Especially Galatasaray and Fenerbahce were so success-drunk from the transfers, let's see how good they can perform in this period. Any game or point lose for them is huge failure.

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August 07, 2023, 10:40:56 AM
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But after this round which is the last one before the group stage they are likely to face a much stronger team. Until then they had better get ready. Otherwise it would be sad to see them saying goodbye early with a strong squad like this.

In the last round before the group stage we will be seeded again and we will face teams that are weaker than us, but I'm worried about our current performance.

The draw will take place today and we will play the winner of one of these matches in the next round.

Antwerp
Rakow - Aris
Molde - Klaksvik
Slovan Bratislava - Maccabi Haifa

If we eliminate Lublijana, we will have to eliminate one more of these teams to qualify for the Champions League.

These are like too easy opponents for Galatasaray again. Only Maccabi Haifa might be a little tougher considering their latest Champions League group stage performance. But I think the other ones are all teams that Galatasaray can eliminate a little easier. I don't think Molde and Antwerp are playing as good as in the past now.

I was waiting for much bigger opponents than these too. I guess that this is due to being a seeded team. Otherwise there is no way they are facing this kind of opponents. This is a really good thing for Galatasaray so they had better take advantage of it and qualify for the group stage.

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August 07, 2023, 10:45:32 AM
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But after this round which is the last one before the group stage they are likely to face a much stronger team. Until then they had better get ready. Otherwise it would be sad to see them saying goodbye early with a strong squad like this.

In the last round before the group stage we will be seeded again and we will face teams that are weaker than us, but I'm worried about our current performance.

The draw will take place today and we will play the winner of one of these matches in the next round.

Antwerp
Rakow - Aris
Molde - Klaksvik
Slovan Bratislava - Maccabi Haifa

If we eliminate Lublijana, we will have to eliminate one more of these teams to qualify for the Champions League.

These are like too easy opponents for Galatasaray again. Only Maccabi Haifa might be a little tougher considering their latest Champions League group stage performance. But I think the other ones are all teams that Galatasaray can eliminate a little easier. I don't think Molde and Antwerp are playing as good as in the past now.

I was waiting for much bigger opponents than these too. I guess that this is due to being a seeded team. Otherwise there is no way they are facing this kind of opponents. This is a really good thing for Galatasaray so they had better take advantage of it and qualify for the group stage.

I think Galatasaray will definitely stay in the groups. The teams they played in the qualifiers are not as strong as Galatasaray. Also, Icardi and Zaha have been drafted and will play in the European matches. Players who add great strength to Galatasaray. We remember that important teams from the Turkish league were at UCL in the past. We want this success to continue.

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August 07, 2023, 03:45:44 PM
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But after this round which is the last one before the group stage they are likely to face a much stronger team. Until then they had better get ready. Otherwise it would be sad to see them saying goodbye early with a strong squad like this.

In the last round before the group stage we will be seeded again and we will face teams that are weaker than us, but I'm worried about our current performance.

The draw will take place today and we will play the winner of one of these matches in the next round.

Antwerp
Rakow - Aris
Molde - Klaksvik
Slovan Bratislava - Maccabi Haifa

If we eliminate Lublijana, we will have to eliminate one more of these teams to qualify for the Champions League.

Today was the draw for the UEFA Champions League. If Galatasaray eliminate Lublijana, Galatasaray will face the winner of Klaksvíkar Ítróttarfelag - Molde FK in the UEFA Champions League play-off round. If Galatasaray is eliminated by Lublijana, they will face the winner of Qarabağ vs HJK Helsinki in the UEFA Europa League play-off round.

If Galatasaray has a good performance, they can easily go to the group stage of the UEFA Champions League. If Galatasaray's performance is bad like against Zlagris, they cannot go to the UEFA Europa League groups.

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August 07, 2023, 04:23:40 PM
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I think Galatasaray will definitely stay in the groups. The teams they played in the qualifiers are not as strong as Galatasaray. Also, Icardi and Zaha have been drafted and will play in the European matches. Players who add great strength to Galatasaray. We remember that important teams from the Turkish league were at UCL in the past. We want this success to continue.

I think so too. Galatasaray don't even need to show their best performance ever against this kind of teams. A decent performance level with high concentration should be enough for them to reach their main goal in the Champions League. After qualifying for the group stage they will just hope to have a little lucky draw to push even harder.

Galatasaray have a really good history in the Champions League back in the day. Why wouldn't we see another example?   Smiley

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Cenk Tosun was agreed for a new contract at the end of last season, but the deal was in Euro and the Euro has risen sharply since then. Therefore, the new contract couldn't be signed because it was too costly. Cenk Tosun rightfully wants more money because there is a huge gap between Aboubakar's salary and his.
I support paying Turkish players in Turkish Lira in Beşiktaş and in the Turkish league, but there is a big gap with foreign players. The Turkish currency is losing more and more value every day and this situation creates problems in every field.

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August 07, 2023, 07:11:30 PM
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Fenerbahce are once again in the thick of the transfer season. Lens team wants Michy Batshuayi. Offering 10 million euros in wages, Lens are likely to sign Batshuayi. For Fenerbahce, it is obvious that the fact that he will be transferred for a good fee can be used as an alternative for the team to make better transfers. I think Batshuayi should be considered when such a sum is on offer. He should be transferred for a good transfer fee as it will also reduce the salary burden.  If Batshuayi leaves, a better striker can be bought instead.

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August 07, 2023, 08:23:31 PM
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Cenk Tosun was agreed for a new contract at the end of last season, but the deal was in Euro and the Euro has risen sharply since then. Therefore, the new contract couldn't be signed because it was too costly. Cenk Tosun rightfully wants more money because there is a huge gap between Aboubakar's salary and his.
I support paying Turkish players in Turkish Lira in Beşiktaş and in the Turkish league, but there is a big gap with foreign players. The Turkish currency is losing more and more value every day and this situation creates problems in every field.

They must come up with a feasible resolution. First of all they should try to give money to the players in a single currency. It does not matter where the players are from. They will receive money as Euro or Turkish lira. And but that is going to create problems.

The best solution is that The salary of every player is going to be decided in euro and those players who want to be paid in Turkish lira are going to have two convert euro to Turkish lira. And because if a player is paid in euro and the other is paid in Turkish lira, it is always going to have difference between themselves.

So just send the money as euro to the bank account of the player and let them decide what to do with it. That is if it is actually possible. I don’t know how the banking system works in Turkey. But I am pretty sure that this is achievable.

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August 07, 2023, 08:28:23 PM
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The teams who compete in Europe should definitely advance and bring Turkey to a better place but the points in the league are also crucial. We have seen the last season second half, all of the big teams performed particularly good and had so much points. I expect it to continue. Even Beşiktaş, who got behind in the transfer race, will probably perform good in the league and get a lot of points. So, for the race of the championship, any points in the beginning of the season is also crucial. This doesn't mean that they should not perform 100% in the european games. That is just the way it is. They should get full wins from european games and try not to lose any points from the Super League. Especially Galatasaray and Fenerbahce were so success-drunk from the transfers, let's see how good they can perform in this period. Any game or point lose for them is huge failure.
You guys need to remember that it's not all about your teams doing better, it's also about other leagues teams doing worse as well. So by assumption if you win all the games but they also win all the games, then that doesn't change anything at all. If you lose all your games but win just one, and they lose all their games without winning any, you are still doing better.

The results will not be for next season neither, it will be year after that, so it's going to matter on the long term. As long as we keep seeing this type of investment to the clubs and transfers, then we are going to definitely see this league grow, I knew about it because of betting, but I am getting more interested because of big names there.

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August 08, 2023, 05:32:12 AM
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Antalyaspor made huge gains through made with Coventry about Haji Wright. 9 million euro is great amount of money for Anatolian clubs. I always wish that Anatolian teams would buy rather half known or unknown young players to sell them later on. Competition on this should be improved otherwise Anatolian teams stay middle rank teams. They need to improve their financial structure through letting their talented players to strike position at bigger European leagues.
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August 08, 2023, 09:34:20 AM
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Beşiktaş has started to increase its pace in the transfer market. They are about to complete the transfer of Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain. Beşiktaş was one of the teams that had a bad transfer season, but we can say that they have also accelerated as a result of the rumors in the last days. Jackson Muleka also seems to be on loan. The Metz team is expected to sign the player on loan with an option to buy.

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August 08, 2023, 09:54:11 AM
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Antalyaspor made huge gains through made with Coventry about Haji Wright. 9 million euro is great amount of money for Anatolian clubs. I always wish that Anatolian teams would buy rather half known or unknown young players to sell them later on. Competition on this should be improved otherwise Anatolian teams stay middle rank teams. They need to improve their financial structure through letting their talented players to strike position at bigger European leagues.
It will not go well because there the circulation of transfers is so low that there will be little chance for Anatolian club to develop or improve their financial problems.
It is better to use the loan method so that young players go to big clubs with the aim of having better experience, more qualified playing skills and also having a more popular name so that when players are loaned back to Anatolia they can sell higher price.

But it should be noted that doing all of this is not easy and there are several risks that can harm a football club and Anatolia itself must really have the courage to take action and accept all the risks involved if you want to become a club that is ranked above.

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August 08, 2023, 01:14:55 PM
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Fenerbahce seems to have slowed down on the transfer front. I wonder what exactly Fenerbahce will do now that they have slowed down the pace and are negotiating hard on salaries and wages. Having spent the transfer season with good sales and still receiving good offers for their players, I think Fenerbahce should now speed up the transfer business. Fenerbahce should get the team ready for the start of the league. The mistake Ali koç made during his presidency was that he waited until the last day every year to make cheap transfers.

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August 08, 2023, 05:05:32 PM
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Antalyaspor made huge gains through made with Coventry about Haji Wright. 9 million euro is great amount of money for Anatolian clubs. I always wish that Anatolian teams would buy rather half known or unknown young players to sell them later on. Competition on this should be improved otherwise Anatolian teams stay middle rank teams. They need to improve their financial structure through letting their talented players to strike position at bigger European leagues.
It will not go well because there the circulation of transfers is so low that there will be little chance for Anatolian club to develop or improve their financial problems.
It is better to use the loan method so that young players go to big clubs with the aim of having better experience, more qualified playing skills and also having a more popular name so that when players are loaned back to Anatolia they can sell higher price.

But it should be noted that doing all of this is not easy and there are several risks that can harm a football club and Anatolia itself must really have the courage to take action and accept all the risks involved if you want to become a club that is ranked above.
I feel like that is how they have considered all the time because nobody really took a chance for the long term, and built something that is sustainable. Any team owner would know that spending a lot of money for a single season will not make you rich, but as a team if you spend that money on something that will make more money in the future, that would be a lot better for you.

Look at Galatasaray, they realized quickly that they can't just spend money on players, and instead they started to take out loans to buy lands to build houses, this is a football club that makes money from construction, why? They can't pay 10 million euro to Icardi by just selling jerseys, they need something else. Smaller clubs should do a smaller version of income maker like this.
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Leandro Paredes speculations are arising again. As far as I know Galatasaray made a couple of offers for him but he rejected all of them as he didn't want to go there. But interestingly there are still news like he is likely to join them. Weren't Galatasaray after Fred these days? Manchester United are willing to sell him this summer so Galatasaray should take advantage of this situation. Fred is also a solid player for this league just as Paredes would be. Hence Galatasaray should decide upon their main target and go for him.

Fulham have also had some interest in Fred so Galatasaray had better hurry if they really want to strengthen the midfield.

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Britt Assombalonga transferred to Antalyaspor. Antalyaspor management filled his place with the big money from the sale of Haji Wright. Assombalonga is a striker whose goal statistics are pretty good. Since he has previous experience in Turkish league, he will not have adaptation problems. If he shows his performance in Middlesbrough, it will be a big win for Antalyaspor. Antalyaspor needs to set up a more assertive team this season and play for the top 8 place.

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August 08, 2023, 08:42:09 PM
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Britt Assombalonga transferred to Antalyaspor. Antalyaspor management filled his place with the big money from the sale of Haji Wright. Assombalonga is a striker whose goal statistics are pretty good. Since he has previous experience in Turkish league, he will not have adaptation problems. If he shows his performance in Middlesbrough, it will be a big win for Antalyaspor. Antalyaspor needs to set up a more assertive team this season and play for the top 8 place.
Assombalonga made his name with Adana Demirspor. After Adana Demirspor, he was transferred to Watford but he couldn't stay there for long. Now he will start the season with Antalyaspor. 6 years ago he was transferred to Middlesbrough for 17 million euros and I think he can be productive at Antalyaspor.
The sale of Haji Wright for a high transfer fee will allow Antalyaspor to make more quality signings. This could be a start for them.

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August 09, 2023, 11:36:26 PM
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Beşiktaş has started to increase its pace in the transfer market. They are about to complete the transfer of Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain. Beşiktaş was one of the teams that had a bad transfer season, but we can say that they have also accelerated as a result of the rumors in the last days. Jackson Muleka also seems to be on loan. The Metz team is expected to sign the player on loan with an option to buy.

tomorrow the games finally start, the first game will be Trabzonspor against Antalyaspor, last season was not good for Trabzonspor who finished in 6th place and did not have access to European competitions, so I believe that Trabzonspor this season will be more motivated to that they don't repeat the same disaster that happened last season and for that they need to start the league with a victory, Nenad Bjelica who took over in April at a time when the team was coming from bad results, managed to stabilize the team and in those games friendlies Trabzonspor did very well to the point of having only 2 defeats and managed to score many goals, this shows that their attack has improved a lot, of course friendly games

the teams that do well in the friendly matches when they play serious games start having another performance, that's because in the friendly matches they played against very weak teams while in the league they are playing against very strong opponents, but in any case Trabzonspor will have a shortage of Mislav Orsic who had an injury, as far as I could find out it was a ruptured ligament, the list of embezzlements doesn't stop there, they will also have embezzlement of the following players Joaquin Fernandez , Huseyin Turkmen , Manolis Siopis and Emirhan Zaman and it is in doubt what Filip Benkovic.

while Mahmoud Trezeguet, Edin Visca and Eren Elmali will be able to play, they did well in the friendly matches, on the other hand we have Antalyaspor who will be missing Britt Assombalonga, but they will have the following players who will be able to debut in this game Zymer Bytyqi, Jakub Kaluzinski, Adam Buksa and Gerrit Holtmann. with that I see Trabzonspor winning this game, I know that relying on friendly games to analyze a team's performance is not a good choice, but in this case as it will be the first league game so friendly games are the only data in the which I have to base myself to measure the performance of the team

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August 10, 2023, 11:03:43 AM
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The new season in the Super League is opening. Trabzonspor enters this season without a good preparation. Who was transferred with high hopes after Orsic, suffered a serious injury in the camp, the morale in the club is down. The lack of some important players in Trabzonspor's defense and midfield and the pre match injuries have caused the team to be not fully ready and the alternatives have diminished. Inevitably, Trabzonspor will not have a good start to the new season.

Antalyaspor is starting this season with important transfers. I think the new transfers will make a good contribution to Antalyaspor with the opening match. Antalya will be one of the clubs to follow this season. Antalyaspor's loss of some important players may change the balance but the statistics of Antalyaspor and Trabzonspor's matches may lead to a balanced opening match. I think both teams will score goals in the opening match of the season and a draw seems likely.

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