⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[SOKO-DEKE]

It is quite difficult for Fulham to fight Manchester City because in terms of strength Fulham is far below Manchester City and also the motivation of the Manchester City team who are competing for the title is very great so they play much more determinedly.

I don't think anybody will really argue about the fact that Manchester City is not far better than Fulham and they have over 70% of winning the game, but the truth is that anything can still happen in the world of football, so it is possible for Fulham to give Manchester City a tough time. Sometimes it is an unexpected team that many people always underestimate that always does something different. I am not saying that Fulham will win or draw Manchester City, but it can happen. Sometimes matches are unpredictable, especially at the end of the season. But let's wait and see what will happen later in the match. 

And for Arsenal, they will have a little difficulty this week against Manchester United even though the Man United team is in poor form this season but for a match between two top Premier League teams it will be different because this is a prestigious match between two top teams.

Arsenal is better than Manchester United, and Arsenal is the favourite to win the match if we compare the performance statistics of both teams. But now that Manchester United is playing at home, honestly, Arsenal will really find it difficult to win the game. It has been a long time since Arsenal defeated Manchester United in their home game, so even as they are playing poorly, their chances of winning are 50/50, but from what I am thinking, the match may end in a draw.

[Adams0001]

Manchester City continue to win. It is hard for Tottenham and West Ham to stop them too. Tottenham are normally a team that can get surprising results against Manchester City. But their recent effort isn't good enough. They are weak in defense. Arsenal still have to win their remaining matches to keep their chance alive. Even that isn't likely to be enough to win the league after a break like 20 years.

They do it or not Arteta is still a really good manager. He has such a young team in his control but he is able to compete at the same level with Guardiola's Manchester City.  

Manchester city does not have a good record against Tottenham Hotspur in thier  home in all thier last visit in Tottenham Hotspur stadium they lose so man city have only 30 percent assurance  of winning Tottenham Hotspur on tuesday night. But from what I see now Manchester city are the winners of the Premier League, they only have Tottenham on their sleeve which I believe with their recent form can confidently secure a win. Arsenal on the other way, requires a win to still be competing for the title which I know Manchester United are not willing to give them that easily.

That is why I see many people predicting that Tottenham would give Manchester City a terrible time, causing Manchester to draw with them and Arsenal to lead the league. If Arsenal wins against Manchester United tomorrow, they will still have a chance to win the title this season, even if Manchester City loses or draws. Guadiola is confident in his ability to win the Premier League trophy, and if Manchester City does not win this season, it will be due to little errors.  but as form me 98% guadiola will win the league.

Manchester United play at home tomorrow, and it won't be easy for Arsenal to win. Erik Ten Hag wants to play in the Europa League next season, and how Chelsea is playing this season, they have already picked up form, and if Manchester United loses to Arsenal tomorrow, it will be the end because I don't think they can top Chelsea in the league table anymore, and Manchester United will not have the opportunity to play in the Europa League with others, Newcastle are also doing well, and I believe Chelsea can finish sixth this season.

[beerlover]

Premier league title race Fullham travel to Man City today by 12:30pm and Arsenal travel to Manchester united tomorrow by 4:30pm I think if arsenal could be able to win their match against Manchester united tomorrow they will be in safety because they are going to won their remaining match against Everton, while Man City is going to won their match against Fullham today.

Fulham vs Manchester City. The last time Fulham was able to hold Manchester City draw on September 18, 2011, after that Fulham was completely unable to take 1 point when they face Manchester City both when playing home or away. The question is, is it possible that in the midst of Manchester City's ambitions to win the Premier League title this season they will be careless when facing Fulham? I don't think it will happen.

I actually worry about Arsenal to win the match against Manchester United even though in terms of interests I don't want Manchester City to win the four -season PL Trophy in a row.

I do not really think that Arsenal would have trouble at all, I mean have you seen United lately? They are in shambles and they lost to Palace and they are dropping in positions as well, they are really doing quite awful right now. I am not saying that we should not see anything that would be all that crazy. It is clear that we are going to see an Arsenal end up getting a win without a doubt, it should not really be a problem for them to get that win, we are not going to see any trouble at all there.

This is of course football and anything could happen, we have seen in history league last team to win against league first before, that is not unheard of, so this one is more likely, but it is still quite a very low chance for it to happen.

[Issa56]

Even at Old Trafford tommorow, Manchester United getting a draw against Arsenal will be hard and even if they do, they have to work hard for it.

I am not expecting a draw or a loss from Arsenal in their match against Manchester United. With the way Arsenal is performing currently, the match should be an easy win for Arsenal, it might not be with a large goal difference, but Arsenal shouldn’t find the match so difficult for them to win. Manchester United performance has really dropped lately, and they are finding it difficult to win the matches they are having, and Arsenal is really in form, they want to win all the matches they are having left, so if Manchester City can lose any match, they will be taking over the 1 position from Manchester City.

One last thing I expect from Manchester United is to win the Fa Cup Competition against Manchester City not dragging points tommorow, what for? Must be a joke.

I don’t expect Manchester United to win the FA Cup this season with the way they are performing poorly. Manchester City is aiming for both the Premier League and the FA Cup, so they will do everything possible to crush Manchester United in the FA Cup final.

[Sunderland]

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Manchester United play at home tomorrow, and it won't be easy for Arsenal to win. Erik Ten Hag wants to play in the Europa League next season, and how Chelsea is playing this season, they have already picked up form, and if Manchester United loses to Arsenal tomorrow, it will be the end because I don't think they can top Chelsea in the league table anymore, and Manchester United will not have the opportunity to play in the Europa League with others, Newcastle are also doing well, and I believe Chelsea can finish sixth this season.

If Manutd lose to Arsenal it doesnt mean that Manutd chances to join the Europa competition is gone.
Maybe you dont know that the winner of the FA Cup will get 1 ticket to the Europa League, and if the winner of the FA Cup is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League, then top 5th and 6th in the League will compete in the Europa League.
And the top 7th in the league will compete in the Europa Conference League.



Chelsea still have to away to Brighton and Im not sure they can get 3 points from there.
And next week, there is a match Manutd vs Newcastle - so Manutd chances is not over yet even if they lose to Arsenal tomorrow.

[pawel7777]

R.I.P. Burnley. After today's loss to Tottenham (2-1), Burnley is sure to be relegated, as they only have 1 game left to play and are 5 points behind the 17th Nottm Forest.
The situation of the 18th Luton is also not looking too bright. They still have mathematical chances, but they would have to win their next game against Fulham very high and/or hope for Nottm Forest to suffer a high loss to Burnley (who have nothing to play for anymore). Currently, Luton is 3 points behind Nottm Forest but their goal difference is worse by 12 goals.
So it's fair to say that Luton's fate is already decided.

[nelson4lov]

R.I.P. Burnley. After today's loss to Tottenham (2-1), Burnley is sure to be relegated, as they only have 1 game left to play and are 5 points behind the 17th Nottm Forest.
The situation of the 18th Luton is also not looking too bright. They still have mathematical chances, but they would have to win their next game against Fulham very high and/or hope for Nottm Forest to suffer a high loss to Burnley (who have nothing to play for anymore). Currently, Luton is 3 points behind Nottm Forest but their goal difference is worse by 12 goals.
So it's fair to say that Luton's fate is already decided.

Luton town will definitely be the 3rd and final team to be relegated. Their GD deficit puts Nottingham Forrest in a really good position because there's no way Luton town will win Fulham with a very high goal margin like you said around 12+ goals and this assumes that Nottingham will lose their next game. At the very least, they're going to push for a draw. Nottingham primary goal right now is to survive the league and try to be better next season.

Sheffield United > Burnley > Luton.

Luton was one of my fav teams this season thanks to some of their players like Barksley, Dougherty, etc. Sad to see them go.

[Docnaster]

R.I.P. Burnley. After today's loss to Tottenham (2-1), Burnley is sure to be relegated, as they only have 1 game left to play and are 5 points behind the 17th Nottm Forest.
The situation of the 18th Luton is also not looking too bright. They still have mathematical chances, but they would have to win their next game against Fulham very high and/or hope for Nottm Forest to suffer a high loss to Burnley (who have nothing to play for anymore). Currently, Luton is 3 points behind Nottm Forest but their goal difference is worse by 12 goals.
So it's fair to say that Luton's fate is already decided.

Unfortunately for Burnley, they'll be playing next season in the Championship after it was confirmed today that they've been relegated from the English Premier League. Burnley have been very poor this season with their performances but I was thinking they were going to put out a good fight on the second half of the season that'll help them avoid going down to the second division of English football. There's a possibility that they can have an impressive performance in the second division next and still return back to the English Premier League just like Leicester City managed to return back to the English Premier League after just one season in the in the second division of English club


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Even at Old Trafford tommorow, Manchester United getting a draw against Arsenal will be hard and even if they do, they have to work hard for it.

I am not expecting a draw or a loss from Arsenal in their match against Manchester United. With the way Arsenal is performing currently, the match should be an easy win for Arsenal, it might not be with a large goal difference, but Arsenal shouldn’t find the match so difficult for them to win. Manchester United performance has really dropped lately, and they are finding it difficult to win the matches they are having, and Arsenal is really in form, they want to win all the matches they are having left, so if Manchester City can lose any match, they will be taking over the 1 position from Manchester City.

One last thing I expect from Manchester United is to win the Fa Cup Competition against Manchester City not dragging points tommorow, what for? Must be a joke.

I don’t expect Manchester United to win the FA Cup this season with the way they are performing poorly. Manchester City is aiming for both the Premier League and the FA Cup, so they will do everything possible to crush Manchester United in the FA Cup final.

Manchester United's game against Arsenal tomorrow in the English Premier League will definitely be a difficult one for both sides if you ask me but the truth is that I'm still expecting Arsenal to get the better of Manchester United despite the fact that the game will be played at Old Trafford. Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta saw his team go back to the second position of the league after Manchester City ran riot against Fulham earlier today so I expect Arsenal to put in their best in that particular game against United

[Miles2006]

We all know that the best side for tomorrow  will be Arsenal, having the best defense, the highest goals scored and also highest clean sheets. We don't need to be told how well they will penetrate Manchester United midfielder's and defender's tommorow.

Two more games for Pep Guardiola, to the next would be a great game against Tottenham Hotspur I feel like this is tue most competitive of them all and we Gon see wat they can do.
I'm not just Gon give up on Arsenal winning the Premier League Competition already. Failing isn't a bad thing, but not this season, they do deserve it.

The hope left right now is so low, Arsenal will definitely defeat Manchester United but, Arsenal winning the title this season is actually unpredictable so putting confidence now is not important. Arsenal really deserve the title no doubt cause they’ve played endless bring out their A game pursuing the title and same thing happened last season, at least Manchester City still have a chance in FA cup and epl title so best luck to city meanwhile Arsenal just have the epl title. Tomorrow match will definitely be an interesting one to watch as Manchester United and Arsenal will face again at old Trafford, let’s watch if history will repeat itself again but I’m sure Arsenal will not miss any chance to United.

[arimamib]

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Luton town will definitely be the 3rd and final team to be relegated. Their GD deficit puts Nottingham Forrest in a really good position because there's no way Luton town will win Fulham with a very high goal margin like you said around 12+ goals and this assumes that Nottingham will lose their next game. At the very least, they're going to push for a draw. Nottingham primary goal right now is to survive the league and try to be better next season.

Sheffield United > Burnley > Luton.

Luton was one of my fav teams this season thanks to some of their players like Barksley, Dougherty, etc. Sad to see them go.

This season may be the worst season for promoted teams, because all of them are being back relegated to Championship Division. I don't remember the last time all the three promoted teams being relegated back straight away. It's a shame Sheffield United being so poor remembering they had a good season in Premier League years ago by finishing 6th position on the table.

Luton is also having an anti-climax story, they are a club that has a league title in their history. Promoting back to Premier League after a long time have given hope for their fans to have a journey in english top flight football again, but that hope vanished with a sad ending. Burnley is just being Burnley, the most famous club at being relegated and coming back promoted. LoL

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The hope left right now is so low, Arsenal will definitely defeat Manchester United but, Arsenal winning the title this season is actually unpredictable so putting confidence now is not important. Arsenal really deserve the title no doubt cause they’ve played endless bring out their A game pursuing the title and same thing happened last season, at least Manchester City still have a chance in FA cup and epl title so best luck to city meanwhile Arsenal just have the epl title. Tomorrow match will definitely be an interesting one to watch as Manchester United and Arsenal will face again at old Trafford, let’s watch if history will repeat itself again but I’m sure Arsenal will not miss any chance to United.

Facing Arsenal who are indeed having high motivation to win the Premier League this season will certainly not be as easy as they did last season, in the last two seasons Arsenal can improve their performance and also their winning statistics when facing Manchester United at Old Trafford,  Today match will be their second meeting of the season after in the first meeting Manchester United lost to Arsenal with a score of 3-1, the game on day can certainly be a place of revenge for Manchester United for the previous defeat, besides that I think if you want to keep competing to be able to play in the Europa League next season, of course Manchester United must win 3 points against Arsenal.

Although Manchester United condition is in poor performance, they still cannot be underestimated, because after all, Manchester United can often surprise the big teams they are opponents this season, such as when they eliminated Liverpool from the FA Cup this season, speaking of the FA Cup, of course, Manchester United still has a chance to play in the Europa League next season through the FA Cup winning route if they fail to get it through the league standings England this season, but the problem now is that winning the FA Cup seems more difficult because they have to face Manchester City in the final later, so I think it is more realistic and easier for them to get via 6th place in the Premier League standings this season than beating Manchester City in the FA final later.

[Adams0001]

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Manchester United play at home tomorrow, and it won't be easy for Arsenal to win. Erik Ten Hag wants to play in the Europa League next season, and how Chelsea is playing this season, they have already picked up form, and if Manchester United loses to Arsenal tomorrow, it will be the end because I don't think they can top Chelsea in the league table anymore, and Manchester United will not have the opportunity to play in the Europa League with others, Newcastle are also doing well, and I believe Chelsea can finish sixth this season.

If Manutd lose to Arsenal it doesnt mean that Manutd chances to join the Europa competition is gone.
Maybe you dont know that the winner of the FA Cup will get 1 ticket to the Europa League, and if the winner of the FA Cup is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League, then top 5th and 6th in the League will compete in the Europa League.
And the top 7th in the league will compete in the Europa Conference League.



Chelsea still have to away to Brighton and Im not sure they can get 3 points from there.
And next week, there is a match Manutd vs Newcastle - so Manutd chances is not over yet even if they lose to Arsenal tomorrow.

I know Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the Europa League are not finished, but it will be extremely difficult if they lose against Arsenal today. Which is how Chelsea is currently performing, I don't think they want to lose any league matches. They impressed me very well yesterday against Nottingham Forest, when the coach made a superb substitute and led them to victory. Are you confident that Manchester United will beat Newcastle next week? Newcastle is still battling to avoid losing games. Anything can happen in the game, but let's see how Manchester United performs against Arsenal today and whether they can play well against Newcastle. I started believing in Chelsea because they have impress the fans yesterday with there great performance, and I believe they will still perform well against Brighton. Chelsea can't drop down again in that 6 position except Newcastle and make Manchester United top them.

[len01]

after doing a lot of research and having several options for betting on this big match, I will venture to bet on Arsenal winning -1.75 at odds @2.11
from what I have analyzed it looks like this match will end 1-3 or maybe 0-3 and the reason I have this prediction is because Arsenal is currently having a more stable performance while Man United is going through a bad time when they have to endure several main players who are suffering from injuries and on the one hand Man United have just been humiliated by Crystal Palace with a big score and this is the reason I say that Arsenal will score a big score.
so, what do you think? would it make sense for Arsenal to score 3 or maybe more?

[emrecemsan]

If Manutd lose to Arsenal it doesnt mean that Manutd chances to join the Europa competition is gone.
Maybe you dont know that the winner of the FA Cup will get 1 ticket to the Europa League, and if the winner of the FA Cup is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League, then top 5th and 6th in the League will compete in the Europa League.
And the top 7th in the league will compete in the Europa Conference League.



Chelsea still have to away to Brighton and Im not sure they can get 3 points from there.
And next week, there is a match Manutd vs Newcastle - so Manutd chances is not over yet even if they lose to Arsenal tomorrow.

Yes, Manchester United still have a chance through the FA Cup. However it doesn't look like a big chance though as the opponent is Manchester City.    I expect Manchester City to finish the season with 2 titles.

Chelsea play much better than Manchester United recently. But against Newcastle their job is really tough. I hope Chelsea at least qualify for the Conference League. I'm sad for especially Palmer.    He has been giving his 100% for his team but there is no team success yet. They missed the EFL Cup trophy by inches in the final too. If Chelsea win their remaining matches I think they will make it. Because Newcastle seem to have a harder job.

[Luzin]

I say that Arsenal will score a big score.
so, what do you think? would it make sense for Arsenal to score 3 or maybe more?

There are always surprises, but I don't think there is much goal difference. Man United have a mission to break the bad results of matches, they also want to still qualify for the Europa League zone even Man United always perform well at Old Traford when they play big and strong teams. Today is a big proof, Because of the early meeting last season Man United lost and today is an opportunity for revenge. Maybe Man City will be happy if Arsenal lose because the chances of winning will be even more difficult for Arsenal.

[Oluwa-btc]

I am not expecting a draw or a loss from Arsenal in their match against Manchester United. With the way Arsenal is performing currently, the match should be an easy win for Arsenal, it might not be with a large goal difference, but Arsenal shouldn’t find the match so difficult for them to win. Manchester United performance has really dropped lately, and they are finding it difficult to win the matches they are having, and Arsenal is really in form, they want to win all the matches they are having left, so if Manchester City can lose any match, they will be taking over the 1 position from Manchester City.

One last thing I expect from Manchester United is to win the Fa Cup Competition against Manchester City not dragging points tommorow, what for? Must be a joke.

I don’t expect Manchester United to win the FA Cup this season with the way they are performing poorly. Manchester City is aiming for both the Premier League and the FA Cup, so they will do everything possible to crush Manchester United in the FA Cup final.

Now you talk as if you're a gunner and I'm certain in a kinda way, True? No doubts with your comments made, Manchester stands no chance but this is Old Trafford. My pain would be winning the game today or drawing for Manchester United, they don't deserve it, I hope Arsenal definitely gets whatever they want today, my prediction should be a close range win maybe a two goals to one game, one to Nil win or two goals to nothing win for Arsenal.

All of the winning depends on Arsenal if they can be able to take necessary actions whenever they get the chance. More prediction is also for Trosadd to score a goal today.

Manchester United will be having good number of defenders back and having both Casemiro and Kobbie Mainoo, Manchester United will definitely be able to build up successfully from the back, also returning is Antonio Martial who will be playing his last game during that game for Manchester United.

Erik Ten Hag knows what's at stake he has to do all he can to do win that game.

[aylabadia05]

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I share the same view with you on this, about Arsenal being able to Win Manchester United in their fixture while Manchester City plays with Fulham. I don't think Fulham can beat Manchester City because their last 5 fixtures was a straight win for Manchester City over the Fulham club. Fulham never had the opportunity to win both home and away and now that the ManCity guys are more prepared, one won't expect anything less.

It has been played and the result is that Fulham is helpless against Mamchester City. I have said head to head calculations that the last time Fulham achieved the best result against Manchester City was on 18 September 2011, then until yesterday's match they were only victims of Manchester City's ferocity.

As for Arsenal vs Manchester United, I also see the last fixture against both teams and Arsenal gave them a 3 over 1 win. Will Arsenal be able to replicate the same efforts in tomorrow's game is what I can't say but hope for Arsenal to achieve to as to further accelerate their winning streaks.

Until now, I still have doubts about Arsenal beating Manchester United even though Manchester United's performance is declining. In my opinion, every time Manchester United faces a top four team, it can be troublesome for them. At the next meeting, I think Arsenal will be troubled by Manchester United even though we don't know the result yet.

If Arsenal fails to get full points against Manchester United, it is legal for Manchester City to win 4 PL titles in a row.

[QueenVera]

Facing Arsenal who are indeed having high motivation to win the Premier League this season will certainly not be as easy as they did last season, in the last two seasons Arsenal can improve their performance and also their winning statistics when facing Manchester United at Old Trafford,  Today match will be their second meeting of the season after in the first meeting Manchester United lost to Arsenal with a score of 3-1, the game on day can certainly be a place of revenge for Manchester United for the previous defeat, besides that I think if you want to keep competing to be able to play in the Europa League next season, of course Manchester United must win 3 points against Arsenal.

Although Manchester United condition is in poor performance, they still cannot be underestimated, because after all, Manchester United can often surprise the big teams they are opponents this season, such as when they eliminated Liverpool from the FA Cup this season, speaking of the FA Cup, of course, Manchester United still has a chance to play in the Europa League next season through the FA Cup winning route if they fail to get it through the league standings England this season, but the problem now is that winning the FA Cup seems more difficult because they have to face Manchester City in the final later, so I think it is more realistic and easier for them to get via 6th place in the Premier League standings this season than beating Manchester City in the FA final later.

 This match against Man United and Arsenal at Old Trafford is one that holds high stakes for both clubs and I think this is one match that lost fans will use as a bragging right this season. Both teams are in chase for something, while Arsenal is chasing the league so bad, Man United wouldn’t want to miss out on Europe and as such this match is a must win for them. So you can see all what is at stake in this match in England.

 Man United lost the first leg of this encounter earlier this season with a 3-1 margin and I think that loss is what the players wouldn’t want to happen but you can just imagine how possible and hard it will be for Man United. Arsenal attackers are really fierce and you can say the defending vulnerabilities of this Man United side will sure catch up with them when Arsenal fierce and fast attackers come at them. ⁠One major fact you can’t overlook is how this Man United side have been with the top teams this season.  You can see how they thrashed out Liverpool of the FA Cup and I think one of the main spoilers of Liverpool’s title chase.

 As such you can’t expect them to sit quiet against Arsenal in front of their home fans. Well they want to at least participate in the Europa League next season and yes they need to finish 6th at least or win the FA Cup final. Winning the FA CUp final might be more challenging, so they understand how much of importance this match is for them. ⁠This match will be one exciting one that will go down im About 3 hours and with the way this Arsenal side are seriously chasing their title and the injury crisis at Man United which makes them vulnerable I think Arsenal will be winning this with a 0-3 or 0-4 scoreline.

[tusandii]

We all know that the best side for tomorrow  will be Arsenal, having the best defense, the highest goals scored and also highest clean sheets. We don't need to be told how well they will penetrate Manchester United midfielder's and defender's tommorow.

Two more games for Pep Guardiola, to the next would be a great game against Tottenham Hotspur I feel like this is tue most competitive of them all and we Gon see wat they can do.
I'm not just Gon give up on Arsenal winning the Premier League Competition already. Failing isn't a bad thing, but not this season, they do deserve it.

The hope left right now is so low, Arsenal will definitely defeat Manchester United but, Arsenal winning the title this season is actually unpredictable so putting confidence now is not important. Arsenal really deserve the title no doubt cause they’ve played endless bring out their A game pursuing the title and same thing happened last season, at least Manchester City still have a chance in FA cup and epl title so best luck to city meanwhile Arsenal just have the epl title. Tomorrow match will definitely be an interesting one to watch as Manchester United and Arsenal will face again at old Trafford, let’s watch if history will repeat itself again but I’m sure Arsenal will not miss any chance to United.

Unexpectedly, the EPL and other leagues will end soon, but the EPL still presents fierce competition until the end of the season, just like last season where Man City and Arsenal fought for the EPL title and this season they are also still competing fiercely in the hunt for the title when other leagues have already decided. Who will be the champion? The EPL is still looking for the club that will win the title, but that is what makes this league interesting because the competition between the top clubs is still fierce.

Man City won with a big score against Fulham and today we will see Arsenal playing against MU. I see that MU will be a club that makes things difficult for Arsenal at Old Trafford, but because of MU's inconsistency, this club's performance is quite doubtful because in the last meeting between the two, Arsenal was able to beat MU. I think Arsenal will beat MU again even though this match is an away match for Arsenal but it won't be a big pressure for a club that is fighting to win the title.

[Sunderland]

Are you confident that Manchester United will beat Newcastle next week? Newcastle is still battling to avoid losing games. Anything can happen in the game, but let's see how Manchester United performs against Arsenal today and whether they can play well against Newcastle.

Yes if Manutd is still wants to play in the Europe Conference League, they will do their best to get 3 points from that match.
Because if they are lose against Arsenal today, and only get a draw with Newcastle = they will finish as the top 8th in the league.

In this season, Newcastle away performance was not that good - from 17 away matches in the league they could only win 5 times, with 2 draws and lose 10 times.
It should be not that hard for Manutd to beat them at the Old Trafford.