⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Docnaster]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Though I wasn't expecting Chelsea to lose their preseason friendly  game against Celtic, I wasn't also too surprised to see them suffer a defeat in the hands of the Scottish club since it wasn't a competitive game. Chelsea new manager I believe is still trying to establish his own style of football in the team which I think will take some time for him to perfect it. Chelsea under Enzo Maresca is still a work in progress and I believe they'll get better under him

[Issa56]

Though I wasn't expecting Chelsea to lose their preseason friendly  game against Celtic, I wasn't also too surprised to see them suffer a defeat in the hands of the Scottish club since it wasn't a competitive game. Chelsea new manager I believe is still trying to establish his own style of football in the team which I think will take some time for him to perfect it. Chelsea under Enzo Maresca is still a work in progress and I believe they'll get better under him

If every club is losing their pre season matches, a club like Chelsea isn’t supposed to lose their match. Chelsea has a new coach, and the coach is trying to set up a squad for the team. If Chelsea can lose their pre season matches, then how are they going to perform when the season starts? I have the feeling that they will perform the same way they are performing now because Chelsea are using their main players to play currently. Seriously, I was just disappointed at Chelsea, the goal margin is just kind of high. I just hope Pochettino's performance won’t be better than Enzo Maresca's.

[Obim34]

Though I wasn't expecting Chelsea to lose their preseason friendly  game against Celtic, I wasn't also too surprised to see them suffer a defeat in the hands of the Scottish club since it wasn't a competitive game. Chelsea new manager I believe is still trying to establish his own style of football in the team which I think will take some time for him to perfect it. Chelsea under Enzo Maresca is still a work in progress and I believe they'll get better under him

If every club is losing their pre season matches, a club like Chelsea isn’t supposed to lose their match. Chelsea has a new coach, and the coach is trying to set up a squad for the team. If Chelsea can lose their pre season matches, then how are they going to perform when the season starts? I have the feeling that they will perform the same way they are performing now because Chelsea are using their main players to play currently. Seriously, I was just disappointed at Chelsea, the goal margin is just kind of high. I just hope Pochettino's performance won’t be better than Enzo Maresca's.

I was very shocked when I saw the result of that match, loosing would have been part of what was expected but the goal difference was something we wouldn't love to witness, also watching on how the goals were scored then I consider their performance worst right now, a club like Celtic won with such build up then how about Manchester City. Chelsea defense line was weak, including the keeper. Maresca should find every possible way to improve the team performance before the start of the season, with what Chelsea played against Celtic, not far from being close to relegation. But, this is not what to hop on because I believe they will do well, let's take it as his first trial and undoubtedly he would increase his team potentials.

[koang]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

I'd question why you're taking pre-season friendlies so seriously, but given what gets put in front of Chelsea every week, it's completely understandable
Conceded two goals in 3three minutes in the second half, Chelsea had over 50% possession, 23 shots 10 of which were on target, and scored one penalty. Celtic had 14 shots 11 on target, 47% possession, and scored 4, Imagine if Celtic had their strongest team

[nelson4lov]

I'd question why you're taking pre-season friendlies so seriously, but given what gets put in front of Chelsea every week, it's completely understandable
Conceded two goals in 3three minutes in the second half, Chelsea had over 50% possession, 23 shots 10 of which were on target, and scored one penalty. Celtic had 14 shots 11 on target, 47% possession, and scored 4, Imagine if Celtic had their strongest team

Preseason performance are not definitive but it gives some sense of outlook of the overall team ahead of the new season. With what I have seen from this Chelsea team so far, it has been awful to watch this Chelsea team play. Enzo has to be careful because the league is only going to get harder from here once the league officially starts. I know City lost to Celtics as well but man, that Chelsea loss was embarrassing to say the least.

Enzo needs a win against Club America because those Man city and Madrid games are going to be another magnitude of difficulty.

[Furious 7]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Though I wasn't expecting Chelsea to lose their preseason friendly  game against Celtic, I wasn't also too surprised to see them suffer a defeat in the hands of the Scottish club since it wasn't a competitive game. Chelsea new manager I believe is still trying to establish his own style of football in the team which I think will take some time for him to perfect it. Chelsea under Enzo Maresca is still a work in progress and I believe they'll get better under him

Although it is possible that the final result is not the main goal in a friendly match like this, but by looking at Chelsea's performance in friendly matches against Celtic and Wrexham some time ago we can see that in the end there are still some things that Chelsea must improve in order to support a good performance later.

There are still many mistakes made in cooperation problems which in the end there are not a few mistakes from the players themselves.
In addition, the problem of emotions also seems to need to be taken into consideration and notice from Maresca at this time because after all we can see the tension that occurred when Chelsea faced Wrexham which actually fought on the field was not necessary especially it was a friendly match.
Chelsea still have to be more careful in their development so as not to harm in the season that will run a few more weeks for the EPL.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros... 

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.

Well, it seems like Erik ten Hag really doesn't have a good choice when it about to buying and selling players because after all, Donny van de Beek also came from Ajax before and it's possible that Erik ten Hag brought him too at that time. But in reality, Donny van de Beek was also a loan player until he was actually sold at this moment to Girona after previously Donny van de Beek was loaned to Everton and Eintracht Frankfurt.

Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

The biggest problem or rather vulnerability or weakness of an MU is money, I consider that now that is one of the issues that not only they have been going through, but also some Italian teams, for me this is one of the things that they have, I am not at all an admirer of Ten Hag, I think very badly of him, however you have to work with him, but really things are tough, I want this team to do well, to shine in the PL, to be able to go far, because it is a team that has history, but this time they can't make any more mistakes.

[shinratensei_]

What's Newcastle doing lately by the way? Weren't they bought buy rich people?    They aren't taking much action as for making big signings. Clubs managed by rich people always aim to build a strong squad normally.

They are at least good with selling players for good sums this summer. As far as I can see, they have made 76 million euros from Elliot Anderson and Minteh until now. As for signings, Lewis Hall and Odysseas Vlachodimos are the only names I see.

I know they aren't very successful so it is also a factor for big names not to lean towards a deal with them. But they can still attract many other skilled players with paying nice sums to improve the squad.

Newcastle is still focusing on facing the Pre-season match soon. I know that that people are worrying about how Newcastle is slowly moving during the summer transfer season, but there's nothing to feel worry about this. Howe tries to ensure Newcastle is recruiting the right player to the club. I think they can still compete even with almost same squad as last season.

[X-ray]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

I'd question why you're taking pre-season friendlies so seriously, but given what gets put in front of Chelsea every week, it's completely understandable
Conceded two goals in 3three minutes in the second half, Chelsea had over 50% possession, 23 shots 10 of which were on target, and scored one penalty. Celtic had 14 shots 11 on target, 47% possession, and scored 4, Imagine if Celtic had their strongest team

Man, remember this. What you're saying, don’t overreact, is delusional. Things won’t magically improve when the match isn’t a friendly for Chelsea. If Chelsea fails in the pre-season, then it's a parameter of how long they can go in the Premier League.

It's normal for people to take the result from the pre-season match seriously. This was because Chelsea had the worst result in the pre-season match compared to last season. Don't you even aware of how easily Wrexham and Celtic pass the defensive line of Chelsea? It's a shambolic game from Chelsea's CBs.

Maresca's coaching looks terrible. It's the first time I've seen a coach play Reece James as a midfielder. Even I though that Noni is equivalent to Antony in my mind.

[TelolettOm]

It's normal for people to take the result from the Pre-season match seriously. This was because chelsea recorded worse result compared to the last season in the Pre-season match. Don't you even aware about how easy Wrexham and Celtic pass the defensive line of Chelsea?

Although this is just a pre-season match and maybe many top clubs don't really think about it as a priority or consideration, but, being defeated by a score of 1 - 4 from Celtic, that's quite surprising. At least, the goal gap is only 1, this is 3 goals. Haha
So, we start to think whether Chelsea is really not that serious or Chelsea is really not ready or not ready. Luckily this is just a pre-season so there won't be much commentary on it. And of course some main squads aren't included. But anyway this will be a concern for Marezca as the new coach of Chelsea and this is his first match too.

Now, Chelsea is still trying to improve their squad lists in order to strengthen the squad fully and seriously. It just seems like they are frugal enough to spend money on buying top players.

Oh yeah, based on the latest update, Chelsea is also eying Real Madrid Goalkeeper, Andriy Lunin. And Chelsea is hoping for a Swap Deal option with additional options from Chelsea. Kepa himself is a Chelsea goalkeeper who is on loan at Real Madrid and it seems like Kepa is still interested in being at Real Madrid. As for Lunin, if he wants to get more playing time, Chelsea is definitely an option. Chelsea is now on talks with Real Madrid about this option.

Andry Lunin himself still has a contract at Real Madrid until 2025 and performed quite well when replacing Real Madrid's main goalkeeper at that time. However, so far, there has been no specific statement from him whether he will really go to Chelsea or stay at Real Madrid.


Source: Chelsea Eyeing Real Madrid Star in Potential Swap Deal

Will it really happen to Chelsea? They are planning to do some swap deals with other clubs, previously it's Lukaku and Osimhen, but until now, it's not clear and proably failed.

[Oluwa-btc]

Source: Chelsea Eyeing Real Madrid Star in Potential Swap Deal

Will it really happen to Chelsea? They are planning to do some swap deals with other clubs, previously it's Lukaku and Osimhen, but until now, it's not clear and proably failed.

Chelsea are currently making plans to bring in a new goalkeeper currently and until they sell either of Petrovic and Sanchez, I don't think they'll be bringing in anyone for now.
This deal would be doing Real Madrid more good in my opinion. Can you recall how Arizabalaga Kepa helped the Ukrainian Lunin Andriy with the penalty shoot decisions?

I feel demonstrating that showed how much value he hass to that Real Madrid side and they'll love to have him around further. At the same time, Lunin Andriy wants more game time and it's okay if he wants to leave. I'm proud of him anyways, when the likes likes of Thibaut Courtois the Belgian amd Kepa was Injured last season, he stepped out and was more than instrumental for Real Madrid. I've always wanted the swap deal between Chelsea and Napoli but look at them misbehaving. Chances of it happening slim.

The biggest problem or rather vulnerability or weakness of an MU is money, I consider that now that is one of the issues that not only they have been going through, but also some Italian teams, for me this is one of the things that they have, I am not at all an admirer of Ten Hag, I think very badly of him, however you have to work with him, but really things are tough, I want this team to do well, to shine in the PL, to be able to go far, because it is a team that has history, but this time they can't make any more mistakes.

Manchester United? Lol, ion think so. I feel like, they have to sell before they can buy another player, it's not just Manchester United alone, some other clubs are also going through this, it could also be transfer policies and procedures made  by Fifa affecting them. Also, Manchester United do not want to over spend, the new INEOS are simply taking caution with every single transfer they do.

Erik Ten Hag is a great coach, you can not improve this Manchester United side without making brute changes. 100% of the transfer window ins and outings are no more under his control so I see no reason why people will want to slander him. Funny ASF!

[Barikui1]

I'd question why you're taking pre-season friendlies so seriously, but given what gets put in front of Chelsea every week, it's completely understandable
Conceded two goals in 3three minutes in the second half, Chelsea had over 50% possession, 23 shots 10 of which were on target, and scored one penalty. Celtic had 14 shots 11 on target, 47% possession, and scored 4, Imagine if Celtic had their strongest team

Preseason performance are not definitive but it gives some sense of outlook of the overall team ahead of the new season. With what I have seen from this Chelsea team so far, it has been awful to watch this Chelsea team play. Enzo has to be careful because the league is only going to get harder from here once the league officially starts. I know City lost to Celtics as well but man, that Chelsea loss was embarrassing to say the least.

Enzo needs a win against Club America because those Man city and Madrid games are going to be another magnitude of difficulty.

I am not that too surprised by how Chelsea have been performing, you  know why, because in as much as he is a championship manager that has no profile, Todd boehly and co has practically ruined the club to an irreversible decline, because if you look at the kind or clueless and stupid decision they are making everyday, you will understand fully well what am saying, let's take a look at their defense, players like badiashile, fafana, colwill and desasi, they are not good enough to play for Chelsea, and the most annoying thing they did was dropping cholaba which is way much better than these guys I mentioned, just because they knows absolutely nothing about football and instead of them removing their ugly hands on the day to day running of the club, they are busy buying more kids into the team as if the English premier league is an under 20 competition.

And as for the present manager Enzo, sincerely speaking I don't expect anything big from him, because the English premier league is not the championship,and looking at this Chelsea team, they will definitely struggle the more,  due to lack of experience in the team and poor quality.

[Farma]

What's Newcastle doing lately by the way? Weren't they bought buy rich people?    They aren't taking much action as for making big signings. Clubs managed by rich people always aim to build a strong squad normally.

They are at least good with selling players for good sums this summer. As far as I can see, they have made 76 million euros from Elliot Anderson and Minteh until now. As for signings, Lewis Hall and Odysseas Vlachodimos are the only names I see.

I know they aren't very successful so it is also a factor for big names not to lean towards a deal with them. But they can still attract many other skilled players with paying nice sums to improve the squad.

Newcastle is still focusing on facing the Pre-season match soon. I know that that people are worrying about how Newcastle is slowly moving during the summer transfer season, but there's nothing to feel worry about this. Howe tries to ensure Newcastle is recruiting the right player to the club. I think they can still compete even with almost same squad as last season.

Actually until now they are still confused about determining new players to buy, Newcastle is indeed a rich club at this time but if seen as a whole they will have difficulty developing and making the club a good club in the Premier League, because players who will leave are very difficult for NUFC they only target standard players and costs that are not too big, so this club has not spent enough money to help Howe make Nufc a strong team.

In my opinion they will not buy many players in the transfer market this time, because they failed to play in Europe and of course they will take advantage of existing players, until now there has been no issue regarding top players who will join them and in my opinion only a few top players want to play for them if they are not thrown a lot of money, looking at the Nufc team last season they still need a lot of players to fill the void in the team but in reality until now they have not made any moves in buying good players, so in my opinion being under the auspices of the Arab king does not make NUfc develop.

[SmartCharpa]

Yes it is true that Manchester United is a very old club even they have a lot of tradition. During the game tradition and old clubs have to play well on the field to win the match. We enjoyed a friendly match between Arsenal and Manchester United where Arsenal players performed best. If we take a complete overview of this match, we can see that Arsenal progressed in ball positions and passing the ball perhaps proving that they worked hard today even got their hard work rewarded. However, in today's match, Manchester United scored first and then they started playing sloppy football and Arsenal players took advantage of that opportunity to score two goals in Manchester United's net to bring their team to the brink of victory.

Scored a Goal for Manchester United team
R. Hojlund

Scored goal for Arsenal.
Jesus and Martinelli

Manchester United defense remain weak in this match, as they scored the first goal in 10 minutes, Manchester United players were unable to stop the Arsenal players in the first half, with Jesus equalizing for Arsenal in 26 minutes and Martinelli scoring the winning goal in 81 minutes to secure the victory. I understand this is just a pre-season game, but these are the same challenges Manchester United experienced last season, they conceded a lot of goals and couldn't prevent their opponents from scoring. Arsenal scored an easy goal in this match. If Manchester United defense and goalkeeper had not been so weak, Arsenal might not have scored the goals, Onana and the defender seemed to be sleeping on the pitch.

[Franctoshi]

Source: Chelsea Eyeing Real Madrid Star in Potential Swap Deal

Will it really happen to Chelsea? They are planning to do some swap deals with other clubs, previously it's Lukaku and Osimhen, but until now, it's not clear and proably failed.

Chelsea are currently making plans to bring in a new goalkeeper currently and until they sell either of Petrovic and Sanchez, I don't think they'll be bringing in anyone for now.
This deal would be doing Real Madrid more good in my opinion. Can you recall how Arizabalaga Kepa helped the Ukrainian Lunin Andriy with the penalty shoot decisions?

I feel demonstrating that showed how much value he hass to that Real Madrid side and they'll love to have him around further. At the same time, Lunin Andriy wants more game time and it's okay if he wants to leave. I'm proud of him anyways, when the likes likes of Thibaut Courtois the Belgian amd Kepa was Injured last season, he stepped out and was more than instrumental for Real Madrid. I've always wanted the swap deal between Chelsea and Napoli but look at them misbehaving. Chances of it happening slim.

I read Chelsea is about sealing up a deal with a new keeper, and this I believe it's reason they want to sell Kepa, but to me, Arizabalaga Kepa should still be kept in the club because despite some of his flops, he got experience when it comes keeping balls, the guy is good when it comes to saving penalties, if Kepa can be provided with a solid defense line, that's when you gonna enjoy him at the goal post, Chelsea defense line hasn't been what we used to know Chelsea before during when Peter Cech was Chelsea's number one man.
For Real Madrid to be going for Kepa at this time, it means the guy got some potential they want.

[mammusu]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

I'd question why you're taking pre-season friendlies so seriously, but given what gets put in front of Chelsea every week, it's completely understandable
Conceded two goals in 3three minutes in the second half, Chelsea had over 50% possession, 23 shots 10 of which were on target, and scored one penalty. Celtic had 14 shots 11 on target, 47% possession, and scored 4, Imagine if Celtic had their strongest team

Friendly matches are not a reference for us, but what if next season Chelsea does not experience an improvement in their playing performance?
Chelsea fielded almost all young players in that match and we don't know whether they will fill the main line-up next season or not at all because if you look at the composition of players currently owned by Chelsea the majority are young players, in the match Chelsea really dominated the match and In fact we have to admit that they are able to create many opportunities, but the problem is that at the moment there is no cohesiveness between the players, so there are often miscommunications which make them fail to take advantage of opportunitie with good, Currently, Maresca needs to create cohesiveness between the players so that they can make Chelsea play better in next season, if in that match Celtic use their full strength then it is certain that Chelsea defeat will be bigger, so Maresca should evaluate Chelsea game at this time because in official matches in the EPL all team will field their best squad and performance to face Chelsea.

[Velvet78]

Real Madrid is really willing to let Lunin go? Why?    I mean in Courtois' absence he did a great work as you can remember. I was even wondering whether Courtois would need some time to take his place back.

Lunin is a wonderful goalkeeper so Chelsea should go for him absolutely. Kepa didn't perform consistently during his time at Chelsea. Lunin would easily be the main goalkeeper for Chelsea if this swap deal happens.

By the way while saying "swap + money deal", how much are we talking about? Normally there is a gap around 10 million euros between their market values. But after that effort, Real Madrid might want more for Lunin.

[arimamib]

What's Newcastle doing lately by the way? Weren't they bought buy rich people?    They aren't taking much action as for making big signings. Clubs managed by rich people always aim to build a strong squad normally.

They are at least good with selling players for good sums this summer. As far as I can see, they have made 76 million euros from Elliot Anderson and Minteh until now. As for signings, Lewis Hall and Odysseas Vlachodimos are the only names I see.

I know they aren't very successful so it is also a factor for big names not to lean towards a deal with them. But they can still attract many other skilled players with paying nice sums to improve the squad.

Newcastle is still focusing on facing the Pre-season match soon. I know that that people are worrying about how Newcastle is slowly moving during the summer transfer season, but there's nothing to feel worry about this. Howe tries to ensure Newcastle is recruiting the right player to the club. I think they can still compete even with almost same squad as last season.

Newcastle United is a team that has quite strong finances, but I wonder why they don't recruit quality players who can improve their performance this season. Management is known to be quite stingy because in this transfer saga one of their offers was rejected by another team because they sent an offer at a fairly cheap price. That way, if they are not active enough to improve, I think their place this season will certainly be mid-table this season.
It is reported that Eddie will recruit several players but their performance is very quiet or does not look more active compared to other teams. The decline in their performance last season should be a big evaluation for management in this transfer market. If we rely on a squad like last season, I think Newcastle United will have difficulty competing with Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

[JeffBrad12]

Though I wasn't expecting Chelsea to lose their preseason friendly  game against Celtic, I wasn't also too surprised to see them suffer a defeat in the hands of the Scottish club since it wasn't a competitive game. Chelsea new manager I believe is still trying to establish his own style of football in the team which I think will take some time for him to perfect it. Chelsea under Enzo Maresca is still a work in progress and I believe they'll get better under him

If every club is losing their pre season matches, a club like Chelsea isn’t supposed to lose their match. Chelsea has a new coach, and the coach is trying to set up a squad for the team. If Chelsea can lose their pre season matches, then how are they going to perform when the season starts? I have the feeling that they will perform the same way they are performing now because Chelsea are using their main players to play currently. Seriously, I was just disappointed at Chelsea, the goal margin is just kind of high. I just hope Pochettino's performance won’t be better than Enzo Maresca's.

Good point, mate. I was also concerned about how garbage Chelsea's performance was. People say they never took the pre-season game seriously. But, look at how Chelsea played poorly against a team they humiliated last season.

They'd shown horrible gameplay and tactics against Wrexham and Celtic. Sorry, but this GIF said it all about how horrendous Chelsea's gameplay is.



The current gameplay of Chelsea is far from the Premier League's level. I believe other PL clubs will bully them for their terrible play. I'm feeling Chelsea may be facing competition for relegation.

Instead of buying a new, experienced player, this club always buys young players. Their latest transfer was an average young goalkeeper from La Liga.

Chelsea's problem is how the club is mismanaged by a garbage owner.

[Adiljutt156]

Arsenal 2 - 1 Man City

Arsenal football team won the match against Manchester United football team .  Arsenal football team did 2 goals in this match and it was dominant in this match. At the start of match, from Man United side Højlund did first goal of match  at 10 minutes of match but after that we didn't see the goal from Manchester United side and we saw two goals from Arsenal side.  Martinelli goal was match changing because before that goal the score of both teams was equal and if match end with 1-1 goal then both teams can get 1 ,1 point. Martinelli actively used his mind and did goal at perfect time but getting the benefit from the opportunity . The stat of Arsenal was better than Manchester United team because they gave more passes and that passes helped then to do the goal.