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Author Topic: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2024/2025⚽  (Read 12893 times)
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June 27, 2024, 07:44:07 PM
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He is also a player now turned coach who knows in and out of this club. He knows the loopholes lacking and how to patch them up. Hopefully, he gets the backing they never gave Jose Mourinho.

This is why I'm excited about him the most.  Smiley  There is a trend of appointing young managers these days. Xabi Alonso has a huge effect on that though. His success started a new era for new managers like him.

Can De Rossi be like him? It is hard to be confident of it of course. But he doesn't need to be exactly like him in fact. Because Xabi Alonso's last season work was something else, it is too difficult to match that.  Grin

The first step for De Rossi should be to help this team finish next season in top 4. Earning a Champions League ticket would be a good start. They will need to take it slow and steady.

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June 28, 2024, 01:33:05 PM
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The first step for De Rossi should be to help this team finish next season in top 4. Earning a Champions League ticket would be a good start. They will need to take it slow and steady.

Exactly, finishing in the top 4 would already be the best result he can get and certainly his real goal.
Going to the Champions League many things can be done with the money that comes from sponsors, from the Cup, in short everything changes.
After that he can continue to build and do better, but that is really the first step.

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June 28, 2024, 01:36:28 PM
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Glad to hear that the coach is still coaching Roma for next season because since Roma changed hands from Jose Mourinho the club has experienced quite good improvements and giving De Rossi the opportunity to coach the club longer is a very good decision. We have to see how De Rossi manages the Roma club from because at the start of the season he coached Roma only towards the end of the season so Roma couldn't feel his overall development.

De Rossi has a way so that Roma can play more competitively, he abandon the tactics that Mourinho left behind the club really needs to change strategy not only in terms of tactics but also player changes but Roma doesn't have a good financial system to recruit many players but for me De Rossi he just needs to hone his players' skills solidly like the system used by Xabi Alonso so he doesn't need to spend a lot of money because last season's Roma players also had good performances. But one thing that De Rossi needs to do is make it permanent Romelu Lukaku who played an important role for Roma last season who scored a lot of goals for Roma.

Danielle De Rossi performed well with Roma last season after being fired by an Italian club in the second division. However, some of us doubted his ability to manage the club because he lacked the experience he needed to manage a big club like Roma. De Rossi deserves to remain in the club because he managed to move them from the middle of the league to 6th place at the end of the season, that was an amazing job because the team was performing badly under Mourinho, and Roma could not win some of their games against tough opponents.

Roma is currently not financially good, which is why they cannot sign quality players. De Rossi did not have his own, if the club did not have the money to invest in signing Lukaku in a permanent contract, he wouldn't change their decision, Roma management wants to keep Lukaku on loan for another season, and Chelsea does not want to loan him out anymore. Chelsea is willing to sell Lukaku for € 38m, but Roma management does not agree with the price. However, Napoli is also interesting to sign Lukaku since Conte believe he will be best striker if they sign him, the deal is not yet done. Let's see what happens before the next season starts.

De Rossi had initial success. But the club is after long-term success. And looking at a coach for only half of a season is definitely not enough to know if he is a good coach or not for the club. So they have made the right decision to actually give him another chance. If they did not give him another chance, it would have been unfair to him. Maybe changing José Mourinho was not the right thing to do in the first place but that is already done. At least they are not changing De Rossi.

Lukaku might probably not be the best value for money deal that any club can get right now. He is not performing that well. His last season was not so good, but his 22/23 season was so much glory, from a player like him, huge number of goals are expected. The problem is at this moment he is not being able to provide that.


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June 28, 2024, 01:49:05 PM
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Lukaku might probably not be the best value for money deal that any club can get right now. He is not performing that well. His last season was not so good, but his 22/23 season was so much glory, from a player like him, huge number of goals are expected. The problem is at this moment he is not being able to provide that.


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It depends on how much it costs, if it costs little it can still be a bargain. He doesn't perform as well as he did in the past but in any case he scored 13 goals, it's not a bad deal, if it doesn't cost a lot.
It all depends on that, on the price Chelsea wants to make, if it costs a lot then it becomes unprofitable.

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June 28, 2024, 10:49:48 PM
Last edit: June 29, 2024, 11:25:31 PM by kawetsriyanto
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Exactly, finishing in the top 4 would already be the best result he can get and certainly his real goal.
Going to the Champions League many things can be done with the money that comes from sponsors, from the Cup, in short everything changes.
After that he can continue to build and do better, but that is really the first step.
I think finish in the top is a realistic target for the next season. AC Milan is no longer very strong and Bologna changed the coach, these teams may perform worse in the next season. If AS Roma can improve their performance, AS Roma can join the competition for UCL zone and even the race for the title as well. But there are several things to be improved by De Rossi. The defense line of AS Roma looks not strong enough and AS Roma only has a high chance to win when it is a home match. In the season 2023-2024, they experienced many losses in away matches. De Rossi also needs to improve the mentality of the players. They can't get optimum points if they are only superior at home only.

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Sure, if they can play in UCL, they will get more income. There will be more sponsorships and more top players will join the club. Since most players dream to play in UCL, it will be easier to attract them to join if AS Roma regularly play in UCL. I agree if De Rossi may be easier to build AS Roma if they succeed to finish in UCL zone.



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June 29, 2024, 06:50:45 PM
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Lukaku might probably not be the best value for money deal that any club can get right now. He is not performing that well. His last season was not so good, but his 22/23 season was so much glory, from a player like him, huge number of goals are expected. The problem is at this moment he is not being able to provide that.

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Romelu Lukaku is stotom semper an overwhelmed Altatue player, he would not surprise me that it would be another flop for the team that would take him, I see him as a mercenary who is very attached to the money that to football, it was enough for me to see it when every time he promised faith to A team and then return to Chelsea and say that it was the best team of all, overrated!

Overrated or underrated, for me he is actually the biggest meme potential. The number of Lakaka memes that he has given us is absolutely incredible.

Anyway let's get serious, how can a striker miss so much? At this point, I don’t think he is actually someone good, let alone someone special. Because it seems like he is almost always at the right place at the right time. But somehow he manages to miss the chances that he has. it is unbelievable how many chances he does miss.



It depends on how much it costs, if it costs little it can still be a bargain. He doesn't perform as well as he did in the past but in any case he scored 13 goals, it's not a bad deal, if it doesn't cost a lot.
It all depends on that, on the price Chelsea wants to make, if it costs a lot then it becomes unprofitable.

Yes, I absolutely agree that money is the biggest thing here. If he is not costing a lot of money, it is obviously not going to be a good valley. It is not going to cost a lot of money, maybe they can get him. The best thing will be if they can get him for free. Which is definitely not happening. I know that Chelsea wants to sell him for as much money as they can. I don’t know if that is the best approach that Chelsea should have. I think Chelsea should sell him for what they see fit for him. he will have to lower the money otherwise they might actually have to let him go for free.

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June 29, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
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I think finish in the top is a realistic target for the next season. AC Milan is no longer very strong and Bologna changed the coach, these teams may perform worse in the next season. If AS Roma can improve their performance, AS Roma can join the competition for UCL zone and even the race for the title as well. But there are several things to be improved by De Rossi. The defense line of AS Roma looks not strong enough and AS Roma only has a high chance to win when it is a home match. In the season 2023-2024, they experienced many losses in away matches. De Rossi also needs to improve the mentality of the players. They can't get optimum points if they are only superior at home only.

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Sure, if they can play in UCL, they will get more income. There will be more sponsorships and more top players will join the club. Since most players dream to play in UCL, it will be easier to attract them to join if AS Roma regularly play in UCL. I agree if De Rossi may be easier to build AS Roma if they succeed to finish in UCL zone.

Milan weren't competitive for the Serie A title in the previous season. So yeah I can't also say they are that strong these days. Fonseca has taken over so I'm curious about what they will do next time. They like to spend money in summer transfer windows however they prefer to buy as many players as possible with that amount at the same time.  Grin

When it comes to Roma, they would really make use of some transfers to get stronger. They are playing more attacking and scoring easier but I agree that their defense is still in bad shape.  Sad

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He can see the effect of Italy being eliminated from Euro right ? The effect is that Italy doesn't have top players in their top 5 teams in Italian Scudetto and if they won't solve this problem , I'm afraid they will fail to qualify to World Cup for 2nd time in a row. Sure , this team of Italy has been bad from all angles but to be eliminated with just 1 shot against Swiss , makes you think that it was just pure luck from their side to actually reach this phase and it would have been way more entertained to see Croatia instead of Italy.

Hopefully , some young talented players will rise in Italy in this season and they will catch some big transfers in top 4-5 teams to have time and develop their skill in order to give hopes once again to Italian national football.  Undecided

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He can see the effect of Italy being eliminated from Euro right ? The effect is that Italy doesn't have top players in their top 5 teams in Italian Scudetto and if they won't solve this problem , I'm afraid they will fail to qualify to World Cup for 2nd time in a row. Sure , this team of Italy has been bad from all angles but to be eliminated with just 1 shot against Swiss , makes you think that it was just pure luck from their side to actually reach this phase and it would have been way more entertained to see Croatia instead of Italy.

Hopefully , some young talented players will rise in Italy in this season and they will catch some big transfers in top 4-5 teams to have time and develop their skill in order to give hopes once again to Italian national football.  Undecided

a few years ago in series A it was made up of many great Italian players and when they were called up to play in the Italian national team, it was normal to see the starting 11 only made up of famous Italian players, but today it is difficult to see famous Italian players going to play outside the Italy or even in Serie A. We only have to look at the 4 big teams in Italy, which are the best players on each team to be shocked, in Inter for example there is Lautaro Martinez who is not Italian, he is Argentine. in Milan for example we will see rafael leao who is Portuguese, in roma for example we will see dybala or lukaku, in napoli we will see victor osimhen who is nigerian and the saddest thing Is that even in small teams the scenario is the same.

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July 02, 2024, 02:42:06 PM
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He can see the effect of Italy being eliminated from Euro right ? The effect is that Italy doesn't have top players in their top 5 teams in Italian Scudetto and if they won't solve this problem , I'm afraid they will fail to qualify to World Cup for 2nd time in a row. Sure , this team of Italy has been bad from all angles but to be eliminated with just 1 shot against Swiss , makes you think that it was just pure luck from their side to actually reach this phase and it would have been way more entertained to see Croatia instead of Italy.

Hopefully , some young talented players will rise in Italy in this season and they will catch some big transfers in top 4-5 teams to have time and develop their skill in order to give hopes once again to Italian national football.  Undecided

Truly a super embarrassing performance.
I don't know if going out like this or not participating is worse.
The team owes us an apology on their knees, but in reality, thinking about it, they couldn't do much as many of the players were quite mediocre (except for the goalkeeper).
Unfortunately, we have been really disgusting for many years now, more than a decade.

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He can see the effect of Italy being eliminated from Euro right ? The effect is that Italy doesn't have top players in their top 5 teams in Italian Scudetto and if they won't solve this problem , I'm afraid they will fail to qualify to World Cup for 2nd time in a row. Sure , this team of Italy has been bad from all angles but to be eliminated with just 1 shot against Swiss , makes you think that it was just pure luck from their side to actually reach this phase and it would have been way more entertained to see Croatia instead of Italy.

Hopefully , some young talented players will rise in Italy in this season and they will catch some big transfers in top 4-5 teams to have time and develop their skill in order to give hopes once again to Italian national football.  Undecided

Truly a super embarrassing performance.
I don't know if going out like this or not participating is worse.
The team owes us an apology on their knees, but in reality, thinking about it, they couldn't do much as many of the players were quite mediocre (except for the goalkeeper).
Unfortunately, we have been really disgusting for many years now, more than a decade.

Yes indeed, the Italian national team is still not good and thus, it is indeed the right time at least the teams in Serie A can maximize the potential of the Italian national team players. Because thus,  it will certainly make the quality of the Italian national team will also be better and of course to improve their quality. But at least, Italy still managed to qualify for the last 16 eventhough in the end they were eliminated and with this failure, it will certainly make a lesson for them to be able to make better efforts. But even so, that does not mean Serie A is not interesting because of course, the competition in Serie A will remain interesting even though the Italian national team fell at the euro this time and it will not have a bad impact on Serie A competition.

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July 02, 2024, 03:52:19 PM
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The first step for De Rossi should be to help this team finish next season in top 4. Earning a Champions League ticket would be a good start. They will need to take it slow and steady.
I agree that finishing in 4th place in the Serie A class is a good start, but if De Rossi is able to bring AS Roma to win the championship then that is an extraordinary thing even though the obstacles are very big, to face clubs like Inter Milan, Juventus, AC Milan and Atalanta, maybe for now at least De Rossi can be optimistic about his current players to be able to get Champions League tickets next season.

Sure, if they can play in UCL, they will get more income. There will be more sponsorships and more top players will join the club. Since most players dream to play in UCL, it will be easier to attract them to join if AS Roma regularly play in UCL. I agree if De Rossi may be easier to build AS Roma if they succeed to finish in UCL zone.
It's not just the financial income that As Roma will get, but the enthusiasm of the players will also increase by itself, even though there are many talented players outside, at least As Roma won't make the mistake of buying players so that the game remains as good as last season, even though it only finished in the place. 6th place at least playing in Europa is much better for next season, and it looks like De Rossi is still able to improve next season's ranking with several additional players in several lines.

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Exactly, finishing in the top 4 would already be the best result he can get and certainly his real goal.
Going to the Champions League many things can be done with the money that comes from sponsors, from the Cup, in short everything changes.
After that he can continue to build and do better, but that is really the first step.
I think finish in the top is a realistic target for the next season. AC Milan is no longer very strong and Bologna changed the coach, these teams may perform worse in the next season. If AS Roma can improve their performance, AS Roma can join the competition for UCL zone and even the race for the title as well. But there are several things to be improved by De Rossi. The defense line of AS Roma looks not strong enough and AS Roma only has a high chance to win when it is a home match. In the season 2023-2024, they experienced many losses in away matches. De Rossi also needs to improve the mentality of the players. They can't get optimum points if they are only superior at home only.

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Sure, if they can play in UCL, they will get more income. There will be more sponsorships and more top players will join the club. Since most players dream to play in UCL, it will be easier to attract them to join if AS Roma regularly play in UCL. I agree if De Rossi may be easier to build AS Roma if they succeed to finish in UCL zone.

Bologna will certainly pay for changing coaches, but it was inevitable and not their choice.
Milan will also change coach, as we know Paulo Fonseca, I don't know what it will be like I don't know this coach.
In any case, these are big changes for a team and I don't expect them to perform well straight away.

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July 02, 2024, 08:15:20 PM
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It's not just the financial income that As Roma will get, but the enthusiasm of the players will also increase by itself, even though there are many talented players outside, at least As Roma won't make the mistake of buying players so that the game remains as good as last season, even though it only finished in the place. 6th place at least playing in Europa is much better for next season, and it looks like De Rossi is still able to improve next season's ranking with several additional players in several lines.


True you are absolutely right about this. In the end you have many advantages:
 - money comes in, and that's an obvious advantage
 - players are motivated to give their best
 - you become attractive to good players who want to make a career

 instead no cups.. well it's clear you're unattractive and you don't get money which is very useful to today's teams

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Milan weren't competitive for the Serie A title in the previous season. So yeah I can't also say they are that strong these days. Fonseca has taken over so I'm curious about what they will do next time. They like to spend money in summer transfer windows however they prefer to buy as many players as possible with that amount at the same time.  Grin
I think AC Milan was still quite competitive, they could finish the season as the runner-up (second place). AC Milan even could beat Juventus although Juventus looked quite convincing to compete for the title in the first half of the previous season. In the second half of the previous season, AC Milan could perform better than Juventus. At the end of the day, Juventus dropped its position in the 3rd place and AC Milan overtook their position in the 2nd place. If AC Milan wasn't quite competitive, they won't be a runner-up.

However, AC Milan squad looks unconvincing for this season. They have no strong strikers and there are no strong midfielders as well. If AC Milan failed to sign a top striker as the successor of Giroud, I really doubt that AC Milan only can struggle in middle of the Serie A standings. It is very unfortunate that AC Milan is going to be a mediocre team. So, they must get some new players to strengthen their squad again. Grin

When it comes to Roma, they would really make use of some transfers to get stronger. They are playing more attacking and scoring easier but I agree that their defense is still in bad shape.  Sad
Actually AS Roma has the money to buy stronger defenders. De Rossi must realize that they still have weak defense. So, they should take the advantage from the transfer windows, they must sign some strong defenders. They couldn't improve their performance if they only strong in attacking and midfield, their defense must be stronger too.


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July 03, 2024, 07:58:30 AM
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When it comes to Roma, they would really make use of some transfers to get stronger. They are playing more attacking and scoring easier but I agree that their defense is still in bad shape.  Sad
Actually AS Roma has the money to buy stronger defenders. De Rossi must realize that they still have weak defense. So, they should take the advantage from the transfer windows, they must sign some strong defenders. They couldn't improve their performance if they only strong in attacking and midfield, their defense must be stronger too.
This summer it was also reported that AS Roma lost several players due to expired contracts and no contract extension options, perhaps this is also De Rossi task to immediately look for other player options that he can bring in as replacements for the vacant positions.
But on the other hand, I also agree that AS Roma has a pretty bad defense, they more often failed to defend their back strength when there was counterattack from the opponent in every match played last season.
They have got several names but there is no definite clarity as to who will actually sign contract with AS Roma in this summer transfer window, I think AS Roma needs at least two or three new players for now.

Moreover, AS Roma also got Europa League ticket and they are one of the most favorite teams in the Europa League competition as candidate with big chance of winning the title.
If AS Roma can get players who are truly great and able to create solid games in all positions, then it is possible that they will actually get European League competition next season.

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I think AC Milan was still quite competitive, they could finish the season as the runner-up (second place). AC Milan even could beat Juventus although Juventus looked quite convincing to compete for the title in the first half of the previous season. In the second half of the previous season, AC Milan could perform better than Juventus. At the end of the day, Juventus dropped its position in the 3rd place and AC Milan overtook their position in the 2nd place. If AC Milan wasn't quite competitive, they won't be a runner-up.

Of course, finishing at the second position was still a pretty good job. However I especially wanted to mean the title competition. They couldn't keep up with Inter and I totally accept it was a really tough work to do as well.  Grin

Juventus just couldn't become consistent. They were doing good with going on at the same level with Inter for a while. But that lack of scoring ability cost them their title chance. This is the thing they had better focus on until next season.

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However, AC Milan squad looks unconvincing for this season. They have no strong strikers and there are no strong midfielders as well. If AC Milan failed to sign a top striker as the successor of Giroud, I really doubt that AC Milan only can struggle in middle of the Serie A standings. It is very unfortunate that AC Milan is going to be a mediocre team. So, they must get some new players to strengthen their squad again. Grin



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Despite having the second biggest total market value I also believe their squad is not good enough for the quality of such team.  Sad  Giroud has finally left and he was a big goal source so far. His place should absolutely be filled to preserve their productiveness. In addition to that, the defense needs to be strengthened immediately. Conceding 49 goals in 38 games is not good enough to compete for a Serie A trophy.

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However, AC Milan squad looks unconvincing for this season. They have no strong strikers and there are no strong midfielders as well. If AC Milan failed to sign a top striker as the successor of Giroud, I really doubt that AC Milan only can struggle in middle of the Serie A standings. It is very unfortunate that AC Milan is going to be a mediocre team. So, they must get some new players to strengthen their squad again. Grin



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Despite having the second biggest total market value I also believe their squad is not good enough for the quality of such team.  Sad  Giroud has finally left and he was a big goal source so far. His place should absolutely be filled to preserve their productiveness. In addition to that, the defense needs to be strengthened immediately. Conceding 49 goals in 38 games is not good enough to compete for a Serie A trophy.


Most people believe that having the highest squad is the best for a team to perform well, sometimes the outcome is quite the opposite because there would always be a misunderstanding between players or the coach because some of them could be feeling some sort of entitlement of receiving some preferential treatment, so actually in as much as getting more good players for a club in other to improve on the way they normally play is important but I wouldn't advise buying too much players, however the case of Giroud he has been very helpful to the AC Milan team with his impressive performance, I wonder how they will perform since he will be leaving the club or do you think that they would still maintain there current performance next season?.

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July 03, 2024, 03:21:05 PM
 #1479

Yes indeed, the Italian national team is still not good and thus, it is indeed the right time at least the teams in Serie A can maximize the potential of the Italian national team players. Because thus,  it will certainly make the quality of the Italian national team will also be better and of course to improve their quality. But at least, Italy still managed to qualify for the last 16 eventhough in the end they were eliminated and with this failure, it will certainly make a lesson for them to be able to make better efforts. But even so, that does not mean Serie A is not interesting because of course, the competition in Serie A will remain interesting even though the Italian national team fell at the euro this time and it will not have a bad impact on Serie A competition.

Let's just say it really sucked, no problem I'm not the type to get offended.
It almost seemed like they were annoyed or listless, without the tension of playing for the national team.
Truly a terrible figure, it's been years now so we don't even pay attention to it.

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July 03, 2024, 04:33:05 PM
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Actually AS Roma has the money to buy stronger defenders. De Rossi must realize that they still have weak defense. So, they should take the advantage from the transfer windows, they must sign some strong defenders. They couldn't improve their performance if they only strong in attacking and midfield, their defense must be stronger too.

Second but he has room to do it, and he must do it.
I don't know how much of an expert in football transfer market De Rossi is but we'll find out soon.
Even a strong striker is needed by Roma, we all know it, even the walls know it.
This purchase cannot be postponed, it is necessary.

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