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June 03, 2024, 10:05:29 AM
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One way to understand your kid is to have open discussion with them about their life. This one is hard if they are not used to it. But if you happen to inject this activity with your kid/s, would be easier to learn why they are into this activity and so would be easier to guide and help them, in case, you feel they already need guidance.

There will be stage of being rebellious and all, but if you know your kid, you will understand where he is coming from. If you are a parent, you would know that it is only you that will have the patience to stay with your kid. So as much as possible, instill the good values so they can bring those wherever they are.
I agree with you, communication is the best form in a relationship, whether between parents and children, husband and wife and so on. With communication we can open up any problems and can find the best solution to solve the problem. In my opinion, there should be no boundaries between parents and children, because if there are boundaries, it will create a relationship that ultimately makes communication not run smoothly.
I see now that many parents are too strict with their children, I don't think that's good. And there are parents who are too soft, which is also not good. We must always be in the right measure so that we can know what their world is like.
As parents, we don't always want to be respected, because I believe that if as parents we respect them as children, then they will also give positive feedback.
Moreover, of course we were also young, and we should know what they want so that we can establish good communication with them.

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September 15, 2024, 09:07:36 AM
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If such kid end up getting addicted to gaming it's going to be a bigger problem than it is right now, my advice is stop that kid by all means necessary before it's too late, you claimed he has no job, he is using money that's meant for other things like pocket money or transport fee to gamble, this is a big red flag, a responsible gambler needs a paying job or a source of income at least to practice a responsible gambling.

I don't see any road to been responsible from this small kid, you should calm him and advice him, gambling is not for the jobless, it only makes things much more worse because such people will always end up chasing their losses, they can't learn the act of letting go.

He is better off facing his studies and he should start working on making his parents proud, what he is doing right now won't make his parent proud, he will make things much worse for them, talk some sense into him.
So long as gambling is not so a good thing/activity especially for young teenagers;why not advice and indulge the child in financial activities like learning how to save and solving financial puzzles games that'll best build and help their knowledge at that stage and age.
Gambling education and awareness should be layed to children early against laying wrong decisions and foundations for your children because It's scandalous to permit gambling activities under your watch as a parents.

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September 15, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
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So long as gambling is not so a good thing/activity especially for young teenagers;why not advice and indulge the child in financial activities like learning how to save and solving financial puzzles games that'll best build and help their knowledge at that stage and age.
Gambling education and awareness should be layed to children early against laying wrong decisions and foundations for your children because It's scandalous to permit gambling activities under your watch as a parents.

The obstacle is when the teenager has actually started gambling, even just by setting aside some of their pocket money. providing an understanding of gambling is certainly important and children must be more controlled by their parents. keeping them busy with other things may be a pretty good way. but teenagers have their own time which may require a little distance from the family.

Teenagers should be given pressure from their parents regarding gambling. they can do it when they have earned their own money and are not dependent on their parents. gambling habits at this age may further burden the needs of certain families.

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September 15, 2024, 10:17:45 AM
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Personally, I don't see any problem with this guy gambling if he uses only his own money and does not overstep the bounds of the law. I started gambling long before I came of age and I am still gambling, but I have changed my attitude to gambling radically since then.

I would advise young gamblers to pay attention to the study of cryptocurrencies and investing. It is quite an interesting area to study. Gambling is entertainment, and investing with the right approach is an opportunity to earn money.

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September 15, 2024, 10:35:35 AM
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If such kid end up getting addicted to gaming it's going to be a bigger problem than it is right now, my advice is stop that kid by all means necessary before it's too late, you claimed he has no job, he is using money that's meant for other things like pocket money or transport fee to gamble, this is a big red flag, a responsible gambler needs a paying job or a source of income at least to practice a responsible gambling.

I don't see any road to been responsible from this small kid, you should calm him and advice him, gambling is not for the jobless, it only makes things much more worse because such people will always end up chasing their losses, they can't learn the act of letting go.

He is better off facing his studies and he should start working on making his parents proud, what he is doing right now won't make his parent proud, he will make things much worse for them, talk some sense into him.
So long as gambling is not so a good thing/activity especially for young teenagers;why not advice and indulge the child in financial activities like learning how to save and solving financial puzzles games that'll best build and help their knowledge at that stage and age.
Gambling education and awareness should be layed to children early against laying wrong decisions and foundations for your children because It's scandalous to permit gambling activities under your watch as a parents.
I agree with you. Children should stay away from activities that evoke negative thoughts in their minds, such as gambling for money. He should be introduced to every educational material to develop his talents. Keep away from every financial matter regarding my children and introduce him to entertainment as well as studies so that he can be mentally happy.

If he learns about gambling at an early age, he will be interested in learning more about it and may jump into it and become addicted at some point.

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September 15, 2024, 10:42:34 AM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Legally the boy is of age to gamble if it is in my country but the very issues is the fact that he solely depends on his family for stipends. But however, he should be monitored or probably be informed about the risk that is involved in gambling, for me such child needs nothing more but guidance for now until he proves otherwise problematic because at some point no knowledge seems to be a waste, there is nothing absolutely wrong having to get to know the up and  down that are involved in gambling, perhaps an eitghen years child can be held responsible for his actions and reactions, the family should be kind enough to keep him on watch as not to be carried away and addicted. The boy too can as well think of a side hustle that can be fetching him money so as to not completely depend on the family members for stipends.

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September 15, 2024, 10:43:09 AM
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Personally, I don't see any problem with this guy gambling if he uses only his own money and does not overstep the bounds of the law. I started gambling long before I came of age and I am still gambling, but I have changed my attitude to gambling radically since then.

I appreciate those gamblers who can manage their gambling habits all the time. Many were trying to keep that attitude, but most of the time, they still lost their control and fell into addiction. It might be because of their mindset, but I believe this can be changed eventually if we don't focus on gambling. 

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I hope they will listen to you, mate, because we've found out that most of the new generations are too emotional, which I see was easier for them to attract from temptation. They need a person who will guide them and educate their minds on the value of money and why we should spend it wisely. We've noticed that the new generation has been too far when it comes to spending habits, where most of them feel like life is too easy. 
 

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September 15, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Gambling is like a drug. As a result of excessive gambling addiction, many commit various crimes mainly to earn the money they use for their gambling. In this he can steal or collect his bet money in some other way. A family member under the age of 18 is gambling. Although his family doesn't think it's a criminal act, the gambling money he steals is considered a crime. If they considered gambling as a crime, their son might not have been interested in gambling at an early age. First of all, if they stopped gambling, their son would not be addicted to it and would not have the courage to steal.

Although gambling is not illegal in our country, there is a certain age limit. If a boy or girl indulges in gambling below that certain age limit, he is considered a criminal and even socially ostracized.

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September 15, 2024, 01:05:27 PM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
A person that is a dependent no matter their age don't have any business gambling because that doesn't portray that they're responsible. It's not proper to use somebody else's hard earned money that they gave to support you and use it to gamble which is dependant on luck. What if the dependant loses all the money in gambling, it would be foolishness to meet the benefactor for another money to solve the same problem. People should gamble with the money that they worked for, knowing fully well that they're taking risk and can either gain by winning or they can lose the money. You should advice your nephew to find other recreations to engage in and only consider gambling when he stairs to make his own money.











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September 15, 2024, 02:36:43 PM
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If a boy below 18 years of age who has no income gets involved in gambling and after getting involved he becomes addicted to gambling then when he cannot manage money for gambling but he can go in wrong direction to manage money. We see many drug addicted boys and girls who, if they don't get money for drugs, misbehave with family members and commit various misdeeds. A boy under the age of 18 who is involved in gambling must be brought out of gambling addiction and the family must supervise the matter so that the boy does not become addicted to gambling. Because it will not be good for the family if the boy gets addicted to gambling and he can definitely commit such misdeeds.

You are right, mate, but the problem with some kids is that they can actually keep their habit as a secret from their parents, it's after they must have become too addicted, that's only when their parents or guidance are going to find out and by that time it might have been too late. Like you said, that's the reason why we have some young people in the street misbehaving and doing all sort illegal just to get money to gamble with.

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September 15, 2024, 03:58:16 PM
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Yes this is why I said that when some one is little below 18 or above 18 a little also, should I have their own life style,to me a notice that the boy is just trying to make money and have some good thing for himself and it not easy for him so to me he has to run back to the person who is getting more money than him? Which happens to be his mother and he can’t ask for me for any good reason because no good reason available, the only thing he wants to do is to still the money and that becomes a big problem between him and her mother, all we need to do is to advise the son to stop and make him happy that he will be great and get his own money
What the child did was wrong and painful at the same time, there is no justification for it, especially if the parent is not rich but still striving to give him a good life. Putting the pressure of the extra burden of gambling on her is not fair, and we should all condemn it in all ways possible. Going to the mother for it is better than stealing from another person though, who knows what could happen from there?

But still, such a child needs to be more severely punished, then advice may later follow. He doesn't have any right to gamble when he is still not making money by himself. That is why I always maintain that attaining the adult age is not even the main requisite to gambling in my opinion, you need maturity and also should have started earning for yourself before engaging in it to know how painful it is if you lose your hard-earned money, not otherwise.

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September 15, 2024, 04:31:49 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Family members and biological parents are different, so if the family member who reported or told about the gambling is not worried, then it is natural, because he is only a family member and not his parents. Because after all, in reality his own mother asked him to stop and it is clear, the young man should stop if his parents have  asked him to stop. But maybe, if the young man is able to explain and convince his parents that he will be fine,  then it might not be a problem. Because after all, in reality the young man has also been proven not to do negative things like stealing or so on, because he also only gambles with his own money and will not gamble when he has no money, and that will basically still be fine.

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September 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
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If a boy below 18 years of age who has no income gets involved in gambling and after getting involved he becomes addicted to gambling then when he cannot manage money for gambling but he can go in wrong direction to manage money. We see many drug addicted boys and girls who, if they don't get money for drugs, misbehave with family members and commit various misdeeds. A boy under the age of 18 who is involved in gambling must be brought out of gambling addiction and the family must supervise the matter so that the boy does not become addicted to gambling. Because it will not be good for the family if the boy gets addicted to gambling and he can definitely commit such misdeeds.

You are right, mate, but the problem with some kids is that they can actually keep their habit as a secret from their parents, it's after they must have become too addicted, that's only when their parents or guidance are going to find out and by that time it might have been too late. Like you said, that's the reason why we have some young people in the street misbehaving and doing all sort illegal just to get money to gamble with.

It's hard to say if a child is involved in gambling, unless taken unawares. In as much as the underaged player no longer stays with his guardians, they'll be no way to go around the situation, other than inviting him home and recommend a rehab program or therapy session. Thus, Parents have to deal with this carefully, to retain the sanity of their wards.

Therefore, the player's pocket money should be restricted, or cut into half, such that whenever he asks for more, he'll be required to return home. Afterwards, the kid with addiction can directly be asked questions, regarding what mostly consumes his/her funds. Then, followed up with a professional therapist.

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September 15, 2024, 04:48:43 PM
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Personally, I don't see any problem with this guy gambling if he uses only his own money and does not overstep the bounds of the law. I started gambling long before I came of age and I am still gambling, but I have changed my attitude to gambling radically since then.

I would advise young gamblers to pay attention to the study of cryptocurrencies and investing. It is quite an interesting area to study. Gambling is entertainment, and investing with the right approach is an opportunity to earn money.

I agree. Investment instead of gambling but they also have to be careful with what they will invest with. Bitcoin should be the main focus when it comes to cryptocurrencies. But Bitcoin and let it rot. Cheesy
Now, when it comes to altcoins there are so many options out there but I would still prefer Ethereum as the main altcoin to have. It's simply going with the flow of Bitcoin so you won't have to worry about it.

Gambling is an area where there is so much darkness in it. It's be killed or kill them which is a very low percentage to happen. Most gamblers are killed and they will be left with no balance remaining in their wallets.
Be wise when you gamble. Play it but don't overdo it. It's not a job, it's just a game. Think like that and you will have no worries in the future.

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September 15, 2024, 04:55:30 PM
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With communication we can open up any problems and can find the best solution to solve the problem. In my opinion, there should be no boundaries between parents and children, because if there are boundaries, it will create a relationship that ultimately makes communication not run smoothly.
As effective as communication is in bonding and building great relationship in a family, it's sadly not always applied. It's hard for most modern parents like us dealing with Gen-Z kids because of the preponderance of what is consumed on the internet. Those days, kids used to go out to gamble and that could mean parents having movement control over their children. That's not the case now as kids can lock themselves up in rooms or wherever and access any gambling sites they want.


As for someone who's financially dependant on others indulging in gambling, it's a bad idea for me. I judge it irresponsibility when I see someone gamble on funds that aren't theirs.


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September 15, 2024, 04:56:23 PM
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I agree. Investment instead of gambling but they also have to be careful with what they will invest with. Bitcoin should be the main focus when it comes to cryptocurrencies. But Bitcoin and let it rot. Cheesy
Now, when it comes to altcoins there are so many options out there but I would still prefer Ethereum as the main altcoin to have. It's simply going with the flow of Bitcoin so you won't have to worry about it.

Gambling is an area where there is so much darkness in it. It's be killed or kill them which is a very low percentage to happen. Most gamblers are killed and they will be left with no balance remaining in their wallets.
Be wise when you gamble. Play it but don't overdo it. It's not a job, it's just a game. Think like that and you will have no worries in the future.

A wise and responsible person would be able to easily differentiate between the two and they would also know how they need to split their income in both if they are willing to do both. There is nothing wrong with being a gambler and a trader simultaneously, it's all about how you manage your finances and stay financially healthy despite having your fingers in both at the same time.

For example, if you are earning $1,000 a month, and saving $500 after all the expenses and everything, you should know how you need to divide that amount for both activities that you do. A wise person would invest $400 out of that in cryptocurrencies that they know has good potential, and use the remaining $100 for their gambling activities because they would know the amount they are using for gambling is as good as gone, so it should be an amount that they can afford to lose.

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September 15, 2024, 05:09:13 PM
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As for someone who's financially dependant on others indulging in gambling, it's a bad idea for me. I judge it irresponsibility when I see someone gamble on funds that aren't theirs.
It is better to gamble with the funds you earn instead of depending on someone financially. One can be able to control how much he puts into gambling because it is hard-earned money. Dependents might suffer from gambling disorder since they don't know how hard it is to earn money. Another problem with dependents is that they might go the extra mile to get funds to gamble if they are given money by their parents. It can make them steal or do other illegal things to raise funds to gamble.

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September 15, 2024, 05:20:35 PM
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If a boy below 18 years of age who has no income gets involved in gambling and after getting involved he becomes addicted to gambling then when he cannot manage money for gambling but he can go in wrong direction to manage money. We see many drug addicted boys and girls who, if they don't get money for drugs, misbehave with family members and commit various misdeeds. A boy under the age of 18 who is involved in gambling must be brought out of gambling addiction and the family must supervise the matter so that the boy does not become addicted to gambling. Because it will not be good for the family if the boy gets addicted to gambling and he can definitely commit such misdeeds.

You are right, mate, but the problem with some kids is that they can actually keep their habit as a secret from their parents, it's after they must have become too addicted, that's only when their parents or guidance are going to find out and by that time it might have been too late. Like you said, that's the reason why we have some young people in the street misbehaving and doing all sort illegal just to get money to gamble with.

It's hard to say if a child is involved in gambling, unless taken unawares. In as much as the underaged player no longer stays with his guardians, they'll be no way to go around the situation, other than inviting him home and recommend a rehab program or therapy session. Thus, Parents have to deal with this carefully, to retain the sanity of their wards.

Therefore, the player's pocket money should be restricted, or cut into half, such that whenever he asks for more, he'll be required to return home. Afterwards, the kid with addiction can directly be asked questions, regarding what mostly consumes his/her funds. Then, followed up with a professional therapist.
Of all the situations, if underage children are addicted to gambling and they no longer live with their extended family, then it is quite difficult to detect their gambling activities. Therefore, the challenge for parents to supervise them is also very difficult, simply put, parental control is very limited. One solution to this in my opinion is to communicate openly, as you said inviting them home and talking to them like adults. We know that social control is no longer running in many environments, adults who see underage children making mistakes no longer have the initiative to reprimand or remind them. So each parent is fully responsible for guiding their children so that they do not act beyond the limit. Meanwhile, Parents must teach children about financial management, how and where money is better invested. I think in all neighborhoods and families, have their own traditions in educating children.

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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
This problem cannot be simply left and nothing can be done.

The first thing she should do is hide the money not at home, but in a place where it is impossible to get to it, otherwise, if she leaves it at home, in a fit of losing, he will do everything to get to it, there is no doubt about it, so why tempt him with this money.

The second is to start communicating with those of your friends and relatives who have a similar problem. Even if you can’t find such people, like-minded people will help on the forum and other sites. You should not underestimate this situation, because if bad things start to happen, you should always be prepared for them and take quick action so that things don’t get worse.
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It's hard to say if a child is involved in gambling, unless taken unawares. In as much as the underaged player no longer stays with his guardians, they'll be no way to go around the situation, other than inviting him home and recommend a rehab program or therapy session. Thus, Parents have to deal with this carefully, to retain the sanity of their wards.

Therefore, the player's pocket money should be restricted, or cut into half, such that whenever he asks for more, he'll be required to return home. Afterwards, the kid with addiction can directly be asked questions, regarding what mostly consumes his/her funds. Then, followed up with a professional therapist.
We know that social control is no longer running in many environments, adults who see underage children making mistakes no longer have the initiative to reprimand or remind them.

Interesting you came up with this, usually, it was helpful, but recently elderly people (in my locality) began to misuse the power of social control by complaining over little things which wasn't a huge problem. They failed to realized that young people move on quickly, sooner, nobody listened to such cautions from strangers who are not their parent. I miss those days, but, personally, I didn't like it either when they began complaining about dress codes and all that, it wasn't relevant.

That was the reason it's dying down in recent times. For instance, I asked a friend about his take on such complaints from elderly people, he blatantly told me he avoids people who complains a lot about his appearance and all that. Assuming they focused on addressing addiction and cautioning people who are actually going astray, there would have been some quality respect left in social control.

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